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PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

Big Games Poster


Fighting games are cool, flat-top buzzcuts are radical, punching five heads off one guy is gnarly, rainbow ninjas are bodacious. If you want to talk about the sickest, most extreme one-on-one ckombat experience of 1993 then post away! Alternately, if you want to play and discuss the few genuinely good games in the series and don't care about any of that bullshit you can post here too. Post about the new MK, post about the old 2D classics, post about the terrible 3D games if you want, whatever.



Mortal Kombat (or Mortal Kombat 9, or Mortal Kombat 2011, whatever you prefer) is a 2.5D versus fighting game, developed by Netherrealm Studios (formerly Midway Chicago) and published by Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment. It is a reboot of the Mortal Kombat series, featuring classic characters, stages and fatalities alongside a revamped 2D fighting system, complete with 2v2 tag fights and online play. Since its release in April it has received numerous glowing reviews, featured prominently at several high-profile fighting game/esports events and sold in excess of three million copies. Most importantly, it doesn't suck. The game has been refused classification in Australia.

Mortal Kombat: Komplete Edition is a compilation re-release containing the original game, the four DLC characters and all the DLC costumes/fatalities. Additionally, the NA version comes with a digital redemption code for the Mortal Kombat: Inspired By The Warriors soundtrack and the 1995 Mortal Kombat movie (the cool one), available via Playstation Store/Xbox Live Zune. It'll be released in North America on February 28 and in Europe on March 2.

Need some reasons to pick this game up? Here ya go!

  • Fun, fast-paced, aggressive, tactical combat (just like a real fighting game)!
  • All the classic characters, music and stages you love! (plus Quan Chi)
  • Fatalities! Babalities! Brutal bone-crushing X-Ray attacks! Gore gore gore!
  • An epic single-player story mode that shakes the MK canon (kanon?) to the very core!
  • A 300-stage Challenge Tower, a massive Krypt full of unlockables and a Test Your Luck modifier mode that lets you turn on all the wacky options during multiplayer!
  • Online ranked and random matches, as well as an eight-player King Of The Hill spectator mode. Great fun when it works!
  • A 2v2 tag mode that absolutely no-one plays!
  • Kratos! (PS3 exclusive)

Wanna play online? You'll need a Kombat Pass! The Kombat Pass is a one-time redemption code that allows you to play online. It comes free with every new copy of the game; if you rent or buy second-hand you'll get a free online trial period of a few days but once it expires you'll have to buy a Kombat Pass for the one-time fee of $10. Sucks, but that's the way of the future, I guess.

Aussies, do you wanna import MK9? Go ahead! Order from your international retailer of choice, it aint a big deal - worst case scenario, it's stopped at customs (extremely unlikely) and you get a $200 fine. A word of warning - PS3 users will need to create a second PSN account that matches the region of their disc if they want to buy/redeem DLC. It's an easy process, you can find detailed instructions here.

Download the compatibility packs! Every time Netherrealm makes a new DLC character available in the store they also release a free compatibility update pack that allows people who haven't bought the new characters to fight against them online. Unfortunately these updates are completely optional, and matches between someone with all the compatibility packs and someone without all the compatibility packs are prone to regular desync/disconnect issues which are a complete pain in the arse. For your own sake and the sake of those around you, download all the compatibility packs! They even come with free costumes! (All of this stuff is included on the Komplete Edition disc, so if you buy that version you won't need to worry.)

DLC RUNDOWN
  • Compatibility/Costume Pack #1 (free!) - contains UMK3 costumes for Cyrax/Sektor and a compatibility pack for Skarlet
  • Compatibility/Costume Pack #2 (free!) - contains MK2 costumes for Noob Saibot/Smoke and a compatibility pack for Kenshi
  • Compatibility/Costume Pack #3 (free!) - contains MK2 costumes for Kitana and Jade and a compatibility pack for Rain
  • Compatibility/Costume Pack #4 (free!) - contains an unmasked UMK3 costume for Sub-Zero, a UMK3-style "classic" costume for Cyber Sub-zero and a compatibility pack for Freddy Krueger
  • Klassic Costume Pack ($5/400 Microsoft Points) - contains MK1 costumes for Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Reptile and Ermac, UMK3 costumes for Kitana, Mileena and Jade and classic fatalities for Sub-Zero (spine rip), Scorpion (toasty) and Reptile (face eater)
  • DLC Character #1: Skarlet - ($5/400 Microsoft Points)
  • DLC Character #2: Kenshi - ($5/400 Microsoft Points)
  • DLC Character #3: Rain - ($5/400 Microsoft Points)
  • DLC Character #4: FREDDY loving KRUEGER - ($5/400 Microsoft Points)





Mortal Kombat is also getting a Playstation Vita port, due sometime this April. It contains all the content from the PS3 Komplete Edition console release (that is, the vanilla game, Kratos and all the DLC) as well as some exclusive extras:

  • Playable Shao Kahn!
  • 16 new costumes, including new retro costumes and alts for the DLC characters!
  • Two new minigames: Test Your Balance (gyro-controlled tightrope walk) and Test your Slice (Fruit Ninja with human limbs!)
  • A second 150-stage Challenge Tower with challenges that use the unique hardware features of the Vita (touch panel, touch screen, gyro, etc)
  • Touch-triggered xray attacks and swipe-based fatalities!
  • Balance patches/hotfixes in line with the console versions!

(Online play is now limited to 1v1 random and friend matches - no online 2v2, no KOTH. Wi-Fi only, no 3G.)


Hands-on with Hector Sanchez!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0dITEtG1Ik





Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection is a digital release by Other Ocean Software (ex-Backbone guys, they did the UMK DS port) and Netherrealm Studios that contains the first three arcade games (Mortal Kombat, Mortal Kombat 2 and Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3) in all their original arcade-perfect* glory, complete with online play, voice chat, leaderboards and trophies/achievements. The Kollection is available on XBLA and PSN for 800 Points / $10, and is also available on PC (Steam GFWL) for $9.99. It used to suck, but then they patched it, and now it's definitely not entirely terrible!

(*This is not the HD remake collection rumoured/leaked earlier in the year; that project was cancelled due to technical issues, so we're getting this instead.)

Quick features list:

  • Five different filters - Klassic/Painted1/Painted2/Smooth/Arcade (has scanlines!)
  • Optional cabinet display toggle that emulates the curvature of a CRT cabinet screen
  • Remappable buttons with push-button config (accessible in-game)
  • Unlock Ryu from Street Fighter by scoring a double flawless on Skarlet in the Dead Pool stage and uppercutting her onto the meat hook!
  • Full movelists, complete with combos and all finishers (accessible in-game)

Hey, at least there's a trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyH8ozwWoiQ


...and a MKast!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTfg-ENbDj8

PaletteSwappedNinja fucked around with this message at Feb 25, 2012 around 01:29

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PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

Big Games Poster


reserved!

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

Big Games Poster


I'm still working on the OP, there's more to come, I just wanted to get the thread up ASAP so people could post about the Arcade Kollection. If there's anything obvious you think needs to be in there, post it now while I'm paying attention.

Dalkalopagus
May 16, 2010

Slowpoke is a smooth criminal.


When you say that the moves are accessible in-game, do you mean that if you pause, it will tell you all of the finishers, even like babalities and friendships and stuff, or do you have to unlock those?

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

Big Games Poster


It'll tell you all the finishers right from the beginning, and you can pause to look up the moves list during the fatality window too.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

Three lives you shall have of me. No more, no less. Three and we are done.


I just saw the ad for the MK Kollection but forgot my PSN password and their systems are down, can't retrieve anything.

Also probably going to buy the new MK for the hell of it at the end of the week, I suck monkey dicks but love the series.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

"The Liberal Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Chairman has dissolved the Upper House permanently."

I am dumb and can't figure out how to view a character's ending after you've finished the ladder with them in MK9. I've poked around in the Nekropolis but can't seem to find the option.

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


Really eager to hear how well the MK arcade collection plays online. I didn't grab UMK3 from XBLA until it had been out for awhile. I'll probably end up trying to get a PSN share group going for it before long.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

Big Games Poster


Dude's streaming the Arcade Kollection here.

VarXX
Oct 31, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 17 days!


PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Dude's streaming the Arcade Kollection here.

Dear lord. Why is the framerate so low?

edit: Oh wait, that's the multiplayer

A Yolo Wizard
Nov 17, 2006

yes, certainly


Thanks ex backbone employees

thanks.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

Big Games Poster


I can't watch right now, is it really that bad?

Carlton Banks
Jan 5, 2004

"The Tigers' biggest obstacle to a championship will be keeping a straight face. The Tigers in three."

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

I can't watch right now, is it really that bad?

Yeah, gameplay is slow as hell and it keeps locking up. For the slowness, I don't know if it's just lag from the guy on the stream playing online or if offline is as slow. Hopefully it's just lag

Carlton Banks fucked around with this message at Aug 31, 2011 around 00:04

A Yolo Wizard
Nov 17, 2006

yes, certainly


oowooah not the butt hooowuuhhh -scorpion in cryax net, umk3

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


Carlton Banks posted:

Yeah, gameplay is slow as hell and it keeps locking up. For the slowness, I don't know if it's just lag from the guy on the stream playing online or if offline is as slow. Hopefully it's just lag

A couple people in the chat have said the slowdown is just when playing online.

Still, doesn't look too good.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

Big Games Poster


So we're talking SF4-esque "lag correction", right?

TheJoker138
Jan 1, 2008

The Clown Prince
Of Crime


I've been looking forward to playing the MK Kollection all day at work, and now I get home and the PSN Store is down for maintenance. Fuckers.

Dr. Lariat
Jul 1, 2004
Malpractice!

Welp,
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/08...layable-online/

"If you’re looking to buy the Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection for its online mode, you might want to reconsider your options. This compilation has what is by far the worst netcode out of any fighting game I’ve ever played. It’s somehow worse than The King of Fighters XII’s notoriously awful netcode.

I don’t even know where to begin. The biggest problem is that the game runs at about half the speed no matter what. I played Mortal Kombat II and Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 online and the results were exactly the same. You can’t play it like you normally would for that fact alone. Inputs get dropped and it’s nearly impossible to do moves on reaction. There were moments when I tried jumping and kicking and the jump wouldn’t even register.

It’s completely unplayable. You can only host 1-on-1 lobbies, there is no support for spectating, no replays, or anything like that. You can’t even see the name of your opponent during a match. How is any of this even acceptable? It’s not."

Bummer, I had a feeling this would be a slap-dash port, that's a real shame, the full article also has footage of the game in action. I doubt it but perhaps I'll be lucky and this is a ps3 only issue.

Edit: Anyone got a good link to a list of revision changes in MK arcade machines? While messing around with mk 1 last night on mame I noticed combos were a bit rough to do and then found tidbits explaining the "floaty-ness" was turned down in later revisions but can't seem to find a good resource for more complete info.

Dr. Lariat fucked around with this message at Aug 31, 2011 around 01:36

A Yolo Wizard
Nov 17, 2006

yes, certainly


I don't understand how that happens, there has to be some sort of internal testing before it gets released right.

Cyra
Nov 1, 2006

Shake it tails



Just played a couple of matches. Unbelievable.

I payed money for this. It didn't even occur to me that netcode this bad existed anymore.

You can't even input codes at the versus screen in UMK3? What the gently caress is this trash?

Cyra fucked around with this message at Aug 31, 2011 around 01:49

OG KUSH BLUNTS
Jan 4, 2011



This thread just saved me $10.

Dalkalopagus
May 16, 2010

Slowpoke is a smooth criminal.


I was about to buy it, figured that I would check the thread first... thank god. I may reconsider if they fix the netcode, but that looks so awful.

Cyra
Nov 1, 2006

Shake it tails



Pretty sure MK 1 is missing some sound effects (like when blood splatters on the ground or people get knocked down), including the satisfying smacking noise when you uppercut somebody, and shao khan's throne room in UMK3 has a messed up background. If it was like that in the original arcade version, feel free to correct me, but there's visible empty black square spaces as you move around it. It's very jarring.

I don't understand. How do MK 1-3 not perform properly on a PS3? How is this even excusable? I'd have thought this would have been treated with a modicum of respect following something like MK 9.

Geez, even all the trophies have the exact same icon. How much less effort could they have put into this?

edit: hahaha the music in MK 1 just cut out.

Cyra fucked around with this message at Aug 31, 2011 around 03:07

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

Three lives you shall have of me. No more, no less. Three and we are done.


Wow, gently caress all this, I almost did a blind purchase when I got home from classes just because I loved MK1 and MK2 as a kid. Thanks for the PSN being all messed up.

may contain peanuts
Sep 28, 2007

WOW what a grate sports paly by the 49rs (better than seahawks)

Haha, my plan from the start was to completely avoid MK Arcade Kollection unless I heard it had the best netcode ever included with a console fighting game, and well I guess that isn't quite the case!

Hey as long as I'm getting in on the ground floor here, the way you beat Shao Kahn in MK9 is by blocking everything he does until he throws a hammer, then jump over it and combo him. You heard it here first! Now don't ask about it! (Turns out you can also punish his up shoulder move, I could have sworn Liu said that was unpunishable but I was playing ladder the other day and I totally punished it, for reals).

Liquid Penguins
Feb 18, 2006

a fanfiction involving Brad, Lina, Rylai, and Aiushtha


My roommate and I are both crazy for MK and even if the online is abysmal is the local play solid? I hate to support a lovely port with my money but it's a legal way for both of us to get our fixes in.

e: referring to the kollection that just came out

Fizzil
Aug 24, 2005

There are five fucks at the edge of a cliff...



is this a joke or did they really put ryu as an unlockable?

TheJoker138
Jan 1, 2008

The Clown Prince
Of Crime


Fizzil posted:

is this a joke or did they really put ryu as an unlockable?

He's totally in there, dude. Follow the instructions in the thread, and you can fight him. He's super hard though.

Liquid Penguins
Feb 18, 2006

a fanfiction involving Brad, Lina, Rylai, and Aiushtha


Fizzil posted:

is this a joke or did they really put ryu as an unlockable?

It's a joke that refers to the horrible rumors that people would hear daily before the internet really caught on in the mid 90s.

Fizzil
Aug 24, 2005

There are five fucks at the edge of a cliff...



TheJoker138 posted:

He's totally in there, dude. Follow the instructions in the thread, and you can fight him. He's super hard though.

oh poo poo i had to google to make sure because all this time i thought the movie/video game was developed by midway and thought it was entirely plausible.

Charles Martel
Mar 7, 2007

"The Hero of the Age..."

The hero of all ages


I couldn't even imagine trying to play a fighting game over the internet seriously. I bet that poo poo needs lower ping than an FPS.

Toady
Jan 12, 2009



Scorpion's "Get Over Here" is cutting off after the "Get" in UMK3. I'll have to compare using MAME to be sure, but different audio clips seem to be all over the place volume-wise. Haven't bothered with online yet, but apparently it's not good. Disappointed in this, especially after Street Fighter III Online Edition.

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Hello chiicagooo!

Oh, wait, is that a GameStop employee in the back? Hey, you, give me a refund. No, I don't care if it was my fault, just - look, am I the one with the microphone or not? REFUND, biyotch!

Toady posted:

Scorpion's "Get Over Here" is cutting off after the "Get" in UMK3. I'll have to compare using MAME to be sure, but different audio clips seem to be all over the place volume-wise. Haven't bothered with online yet, but apparently it's not good. Disappointed in this, especially after Street Fighter III Online Edition.
There was definitely a version of UMK3 for MAME that did the same thing. I don't recall if the XBLA version had the same issue though.

This was a no-brainer purchase for me, but if they seriously don't have 4-player lobbies with spectating like the 2006 port of the same game did, well poo poo...

Zellus
Apr 3, 2010

Incompetence surrounds me!


MKII is somehow worse than the 2007 PSN release. Some sound effects are either missing entirely or sound wrong (like Sub-Zero's ice freeze).

RageBeef
Jul 27, 2010

HUH HEE HEE


I'm not sure why you guys are surprised this came out this bad. It was obviously just half assed to try and make a quick buck off nostalgia since the HD Collection fell through because of the problems the new sprites were causing.

Liquid Penguins
Feb 18, 2006

a fanfiction involving Brad, Lina, Rylai, and Aiushtha


Charles Martel posted:

I couldn't even imagine trying to play a fighting game over the internet seriously. I bet that poo poo needs lower ping than an FPS.

Well if the game has GGPO I could totally see it as a viable option as long as you're playing someone within 500 miles.

Dr. Lariat
Jul 1, 2004
Malpractice!

Because I'm a big sucker for MK I was willing to buy it when I got home despite the bad netcode, now that I hear it is also full of emulation errors I'll have to say no.

Where/when did the hd collection info come out, seems last 2 days are the first I'd heard of the issues and always just figured it was something that showed up in game store pos's but wasn't a real thing.

Dr. Lariat fucked around with this message at Aug 31, 2011 around 05:10

TheJoker138
Jan 1, 2008

The Clown Prince
Of Crime


Dr. Lariat posted:

Because I'm a big sucker for MK I was willing to buy it when I got home despite the bad netcode, now that I hear it is also full of emulation errors I'll have to say no.

Where/when did the hd collection info come out, seems last 2 days are the first I'd heard of the issues and always just figured it was something that showed up in game store pos's but wasn't a real thing.

I don't have a link, but one of the guys who was working on it posted a bunch of poo poo on his website a while back. It looked...ok.

Surgeon General
May 26, 2004
Delightfully Mad

RageBeef posted:

I'm not sure why you guys are surprised this came out this bad. It was obviously just half assed to try and make a quick buck off nostalgia since the HD Collection fell through because of the problems the new sprites were causing.

Any chance they had a deadline to meet and plan on fixing it?

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RageBeef
Jul 27, 2010

HUH HEE HEE


Surgeon General posted:

Any chance they had a deadline to meet and plan on fixing it?

From what I read they decided to scrap it because they couldn't preserve the original gameplay because of the clash between the original hitboxes and the new actors they were making the sprites from. Even if they do decide to pick it back up I can't see it working out unless they can find a way to have the new actors' sprites not change the gameplay.

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