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I'm considering coming back to this. Is it possible to play a Magician without going insane and what should I know in order to optimize one reasonably well? Anything to watch out for that isn't obvious? I recall Legacy being super unremarkable but hey if you guys say it's better I've got Persistent World Stockholm Syndrome to spare. Edit: I play on another PW as well, isn't there some bullshit where I have to make a new NWN2 folder in My Documents in order to download all the Legacy crap into that? I vaguely recall something like that.
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| # ¿ Oct 9, 2011 20:14 |
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Kestral posted:It's hard to give advice on this given the impending revamp. On the other hand they'll have to give us all rebuilds, so it's not like you can actually screw it up. Just make sure you have CHA 14 and as much CON as you can afford and you'll be fine. Personally I'm regretting not taking more DEX because Legacy magicians are heavily reliant on ranged touch attacks. Why the Charisma? I feel like I'm missing something. Totally gonna play a Fiendborn named Lucifer Jr the Hellbringer  (Not really but I'm contemplating a Changeling)
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| # ¿ Oct 10, 2011 03:16 |
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Cannot wait for Magician overhaul  Also surprised they didn't replace the spell vendor in the first place, I think they underestimate how terrible this makes the class.
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| # ¿ Oct 12, 2011 01:42 |
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GenVec posted:You seem to be owning fairly well as it is. If we get some DM attention there's a good chance you can learn some of those simple spells in an adventure. Yeah I could be doing a lot worse but still What I've heard of how the overhaul is going to work sounds aces. That's part of my impatience.
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| # ¿ Oct 12, 2011 03:28 |
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Commoners posted:Nope, you're asking too much. I don't think horse killing is beyond us.
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| # ¿ Oct 12, 2011 03:49 |
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So would any of you happen to know which quests are repeatable and aren't, so I can hold on to the ~GOOD STUFF~ for level 7 in the vain hope that I won't die before then.
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| # ¿ Oct 12, 2011 05:43 |
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Two seems the best. I really don't think it's helpful for Mages to have to struggle quite so much even for the basic functionality poo poo, when no other class really has to do the same. Player initiative is all well and good but I can't think of anything more discouraging to new players who like a bit of ~magic~ than "So you want spells beyond 0th level? Well gently caress you that's why". If I weren't fully aware of the revamp incoming and had played on here before and knew the server wasn't bad, I'd probably assume this was some kind of knee jerk opposite extreme reaction to casters being overly dominant in normal 3.5 D&D.
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| # ¿ Oct 12, 2011 15:07 |
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Commoners posted:I can plainly tell you that casters are currently ~*secret OP*~ (even though they have been seen in the past doing stuff.) They're all about positioning and spell synergy. If you thrash around and die as a magician or druid in 1v1 when going full effort then you probably didn't do it right And that's entirely possible, but has nothing to do with what I'm talking about either. Keep the cool poo poo hard to learn that's fine, I just think there should be some more readily available basic functionality spells.
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| # ¿ Oct 12, 2011 15:50 |
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Idle curiosity Troy but are the existing capstones that are surviving the caster overhaul like Magister and Warlock also getting some modifications to their stuff?
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| # ¿ Oct 13, 2011 06:02 |
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Commoners posted:Make your angry peasant posts, fools. I DID AND I EDITED IT TOO GOD WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME 
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| # ¿ Oct 13, 2011 15:21 |
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Commoners posted:Also I think I've fallen for the e8 honey pot for my new character. Gonna need six feats and a capstone to reach maximum potential, and only after that will I be able to take the three most hilarious feats for a rogue to take: Improved unarmed strike, deflect arrow, and circle kick. Isn't Circle Kick still bugged to hell though?
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| # ¿ Oct 13, 2011 15:47 |
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GamerL posted:Re: Magicians:  Huzzah!And to the bolded...SOUNDS LIKE A CHALLENGE  Admittedly the price of the pact is intimidating, but I am legitimately shooting for this. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at Oct 14, 2011 around 00:05 |
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Having a lot of fun with Team Peasants, but I don't know that I'll have a huge amount of time for it this coming week. Busy busy busy. Don't get murdered by Slaanesh or something while I'm away 
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2011 02:55 |
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GenVec posted:We really need a better name than Team Peasant. I'm trending toward "The Free Folk". What do you think? "Those guys who drag around a complete nutcase" Nah Team Peasant is best.
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2011 03:10 |
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Captain Spoon posted:Speaking as someone with no experience with D&D and limited experience with Neverwinter (I played with the toolset more than I played the game), how should I get started here? Right here http://legacydarkage.com/index.php?action=wiki
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2011 20:58 |
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Captain Spoon posted:I tried doing this and had no idea what to do or where to go. I ended up lost in some swamp and just quit...I think I'll try the wiki as a starter.. Are you familiar with the concept of roleplaying period? Not meaning to be condescending either, serious question.
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2011 22:37 |
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Team Peasant continues to be the best 
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| # ¿ Oct 15, 2011 06:09 |
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GenVec posted:Anghavar (Commoners) and Nailian (Dergin) are going to be helping with the scouting for it, but if anyone else wants to lend a hand, they should talk to Owen at Free Gwent - preferably when there's not a half-dozen nobility (or worse, Madoc) hanging around trying to spy on us. Regardless of who helps set it up, we'll post the event time in advance and have everyone involved. Keep in mind, the fighting is only half the battle - we're going to need minstrels to make sure our side of the story gets told, woodsmen and rogues to keep an eye on the enemy, and magicians (Owain and Emerys) to deal with any tricky situations that arise. Can you guys wipe people's memories like that NPC in the Glen does? Because that would be really handy. To your last question, I'm leaning on probably not. I mean DM could fiat it, but that NPC is old and powerful (tm) sooo...yeah. Not betting on it. Edit: We could try dragging them all the way to Glen Budywhatever and dunk their heads in the magic water until they forget poo poo! (Not a serious suggestion)Jeremor posted:I think I might make a minstrel. My Woodsman is cool and all that, but kinda boring to rp. What kind of stats should I look at? 18 cha? I started as a Magician with no spells except spamming Ray of Shadow due to the Magician Vendor at the time being waxed and I made it to 4 in no time. Trust me, you'll be fine. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at Oct 15, 2011 around 14:57 |
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Should be on later tonight for shenanigans. I found a perfect place for ADVENTURE TIME while in futile search of spell nodes this morning. Also I like Yr Rhyddyn a lot.
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| # ¿ Oct 15, 2011 15:40 |
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It's increasingly common that I find something that seems like a probable spell node, click to interact and oh the use interaction for this item is busted. Welp. Like Fairie's Gold. Are there a buncha busted spell nodes or am I just HOPING these things were spell nodes?
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| # ¿ Oct 16, 2011 10:35 |
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SorcerousHam posted:The Faerie Gold I'm fairly certain was meant to be part of a quest that never got in. Yes but something that's a node that actually gives spells at least tends to give you a dialogue wherein you fail to discern anything if you're the wrong class. I'm talking about nodes that just don't do nothin' at all Captain Spoon posted:This is really, really fun. Started the day dumbly asking around town for work, ended the day covered in bandit and korrigan blood with a merry band of peasants. It's gonna take some time to learn all the lore and open up my character's mouth a little more, but the environment so far has been really helpful and friendly. Hark, a wild Clav be this? Varinn posted:Unless this has changed since launch (good chance it hasnt) no one, including troy, actually knows. This sounds like a remarkably poor idea. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at Oct 16, 2011 around 21:05 |
| # ¿ Oct 16, 2011 21:02 |
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SorcerousHam posted:And you would be wrong about the lack of dialogue indicating that it isn't a node. There are at least two nodes that I know of that either only trigger dialogue if you're of the correct class, or simply give you a spell without dialogue if you're of the right class. My assumption of consistency is my undoing! 
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| # ¿ Oct 16, 2011 22:05 |
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Light the Owen signal! We need bald men with ATTITUDE. Also big shields.
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| # ¿ Oct 16, 2011 23:43 |
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Yeah no kidding. My first event on Legacy and it goes: Try to talk to outlaws, fail, try to use prestidigitation to scare outlaws, fail, get waxed by improbably mighty green conning outlaws in record time and lose money anyway.
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| # ¿ Oct 17, 2011 00:08 |
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Quantumfate posted:Oh hey, legacy is becoming another frontier where a character of mine is being excluded from the hub because one high level, high power character has a problem with then. Hooray Gotta love dem high level cliques. It's the ciiiircle of PWs~
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| # ¿ Oct 18, 2011 13:17 |
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GamerL posted:I don't understand how these clique issues arose, or what's being referred to. But generally...the amount of drama that's come up in the last three weeks is a bit bizarre. I think commoners and val would agree with me. NO NOW LET ME WRITE A THIRTY PAGE THESIS ON WHY THIS POST IS AWFUL  Commoners posted:Just avoid two of them and do whatever the gently caress you want. Indeed. Jena can be hard to avoid but it's manageable.
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| # ¿ Oct 18, 2011 15:39 |
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Commoners posted:I don't know why you guys are complaining about having trouble when you make/join a group with inherently confrontational goals. Things are tough at lower levels when you're at odds with the higher levels, but getting beaten up in a bar fight shouldn't get a rage quit response. I mean hell, every time I've rocked the boat against other PCs the resolution has had me losing out even though it didn't kill me. I haven't really gotten the impression anyone is freaking out enough to warrant a post like this, nor am I certain what half of this is talking about  That being said to the first part of the post, yeah our group does have ultimately confrontational goals. Thing is, we haven't actually been confrontational yet.
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| # ¿ Oct 18, 2011 20:11 |
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Commoners posted:It was mostly spurred on by qf8's post and preemptive in nature when someone will have a monkey wrench thrown in their plan and will probably flip poo poo. Preemptive counter poo poo flipping, if you will. NeurosisHead posted:It made me kind of want to play this PW at first, but then it got really metagame circlejerky so now I don't want to play. Don't be a baby, ~drama bombs~ are what make you grow up big and strong. I think.
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| # ¿ Oct 18, 2011 20:19 |
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Commoners posted:Honestly I don't even see a drama bomb right now. It's just people becoming minorly annoyed with a few other people. Drama bombs are when you have a DM raping PCs or someone retconning their own PC's death while DM killing the player who killed them, etc. Sounds like we need to get cracking then 
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| # ¿ Oct 18, 2011 20:31 |
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Song Singer goes where she pleases
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| # ¿ Oct 19, 2011 15:13 |
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GamerL posted:We actually have 11 active DM's. (YMD, Coercer, Sorcerous Ham, Sankis, Azareil, Dangotgam, Ook, Waffles, Pochoclo, Troy, Valhalla). They are of varying 'activity' levels, but they do all generally DM at least one event a week, and some far more often than that. Given our peak numbers are about 15-22 on any given night, I think this is a solid number. We are always looking for more, but I value quality and judgment over quantity. I think part of this stemmed from me talking to Ook about Team Peasant's initiative and maybe Ook didn't KNOW I was team peasant so the conversation went in a confusing (he only seemed to kiiind of know what I was talking about but hey maybe he was preoccupied) direction and I told GenVec about it and we enjoyed mutual confusion.
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| # ¿ Oct 20, 2011 23:53 |
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Yeah Val, the PM about undertaking various actions to try and find more spells had nothing to do with Team Peasant. That was just an Owain thing. That part's a misunderstanding on both ends because, as I recall, those sort of player initiatives are supposed to go to Troy and I sent it to Ook. When I was talking to Ook later, I was at the time asking about volunteering to be a part of GenVec's Team Peasant initiative, not about the spells thing. The misunderstandings are truly multilayered.
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| # ¿ Oct 21, 2011 03:20 |
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The "nau" and "dos" in that chat log just make the whole thing absurd and hilarious. I have no idea how they can type any of that with a straight face.
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| # ¿ Oct 23, 2011 21:16 |
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Guys someone was mean to me on IRC I need you all to circle jerk my ego and tell me how valuable to the community I am.
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| # ¿ Oct 24, 2011 02:51 |
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Commoners posted:gently caress yourself and die Tell us how you really feel
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| # ¿ Oct 24, 2011 03:24 |
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I think it's hilarious that they think using broken Drow-ish like some kind of pointy eared immigrant who don't speak da English so good is ~more authentic~. loving Drow takin' all our jerbs.
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| # ¿ Oct 24, 2011 05:20 |
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I suddenly wonder, who does Kestral even play IG? I know him for his effort posts but little else.
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| # ¿ Oct 25, 2011 20:21 |
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*pours one out for his dead sociopathic homie*
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| # ¿ Oct 26, 2011 05:53 |
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We need more characters with drive. With zazz. We need teenagers with attitude. Edit: Holy poo poo those screenshots. I'm dying. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at Oct 28, 2011 around 20:24 |
| # ¿ Oct 28, 2011 20:19 |
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| # ¿ May 22, 2013 06:17 |
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I ducked out because the event kind of blew and I realized straight away that we had too many derp people in the group for future events to turn out any other way. Writing on the wall.
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