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sirbeefalot: Aug 24, 2004; Fast Learner.

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Since nobody gives a poo poo about WebOS anymore, here's a handy link to help you put CM9 onto your Touchpad from stock!

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OCT 18, 2011 UPDATE: 3.0.4 is out. Patches or kernels that you have applied (meaning anything other than applications installed via Preware or webOSQuickInstall) will be automatically disabled after applying this update, until each patch has been updated by its maintainer. This means that things like the Tap Ripple will show up again until the patch to remove it is updated. This is normal. Nothing's broken, this is a safety measure built into the patching system so that OTA updates can be applied without having to disable all of your hacks beforehand.

You shouldn't have to uninstall/reinstall any of them, just check Preware or webOSQuickInstall periodically over the next week or two for updates. The speed with which updates arrive for patches is entirely dependent on each patch's author/maintainer.

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What is webOS?
~~webOS is the groundbreaking mobile operating system from Pal~~ webOS is DEAD!

Let's get right to it. You bought a $100, or maybe a $150 Touchpad, you cheapass.

There are a few tweaks you should do to that thing before you even start using it. Rather than repost the entire guide for each performance enhancing ~~pill~~ tweak here, instead I urge you to visit

this informative post

on Precentral.net.

A basic rundown of what you will be doing by following the steps in that guide:

Changing your wallpaper!
Updating your Touchpad to webOS ~~3.0.2~~ 3.0.4.
Turning down the asinine level of logging going on
Installing Preware on your Touchpad
Using Preware to install patches that will increase performance [in bed]

So no, really, What is webOS?
- webOS is a contemporary mobile operating system developed by Palm and currently owned (along with Palm itself) by HP. It has many things in common with its peers, though it performs certain tasks in a much more elegant manner. webOS originally debuted on the Sprint-exclusive Palm Pre, and was first shown in early 2009. The Pre was launched on June 6th of the same year.

There have been 7 different handsets running webOS, as well as the Touchpad tablet.

"Historically speaking," the Pre line is the higher-end while the Pixi and Veer represent the entry level phones. As of now the Pre3 and Veer are the current, newest handsets, but with HP ceasing hardware production that's kind of irrelevant.

Current Hardware Glamour Shots
Touchpad

Pre 3

Veer

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Features of webOS

Synergy
Palm Synergy is a webOS feature that groups similar things together and makes them easier to use. It gathers contact and calendar information from places like Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, Skype, and Yahoo!, and puts it into one view. It recognizes text and IM chats with the same person and combines them into one conversation. The Photos app pulls from Photobucket, Snapfish and Facebook and shows your online albums alongside photos saved on the device, seamlessly. With Palm Synergy, important information is all in one place.
Multiple Apps
Flip from one open app to another. And back again. Palm webOS lets you keep multiple apps open without losing your place. Check work email while making plans for the night. Map an address right from Contacts. Automatically add a restaurant reservation to your calendar. Zoom in or out on a page, move open apps around like cards in a deck, or close apps simply by flicking them off the screen. Stack relevant cards together to keep your workflow grouped.
Unintrusive Notifications
Keep up with email, messages, event reminders, and more without being completely interrupted. Incoming notifications appear at the bottom of the screen (on the phones) or in the top bar (on the Touchpad), giving you a quick snapshot of new information. You can respond or ignore with one touch - and without having to close any applications. Tap to act on a notification, or swipe it to the side to dismiss it without further action. Dismiss multiple stacked notifications and only act on the important ones.
Just Type
Touch the Just Type bar on the home screen, and... Just Type. webOS begins looking for results on the phone or tablet, searching emails, browser history, contacts and more, and then also offers to search Google, Google Maps, Wikipedia, or Twitter. Visiting certain websites that incorporate compatible search engines automatically gives the option to add those to your Just Type toolbox. Don't want to add those search engines? Swipe away the notification and forget about it.
Gesture Area
Directly under the screen of each webOS phone is a gesture that allows you to perform gestures that control various functions of the OS. HP did away with the gesture area on the Touchpad, though it still emulates the up-swipe to minimize to card view and bring up the launcher. On the Touchpad, swipe up quickly into the screen from the bezel below.
- Go Back: Instead of having a button taking up screen real estate, you can simply swipe your finger from right-to-left to move back in the web browser or other applications. This gesture will also "minimize" notifications you have received and want to leave open at the bottom of the screen to be dealt with at another time. Apps on the Touchpad incorporate a back button on-screen or sliding panes to travel back through views.
- Card View: "cards" is a metaphor for the apps you have open on your device. Either tap once in the center of the gesture area (press the center button on the Touchpad), or swipe up from the gesture area when you want to switch from full screen view where you are directly interacting with an app to Card View. This way you can choose a new app to bring into view or close apps you don't want to remain open.
- Open Launcher: While in Card View you can tap the Launcher icon, or you can perform a similar "swipe up" that got you into card view in the first place to bring up the Launcher to choose another application to open.
- Quick Launch Wave (phones only): To leave your current app open and bring up the apps you've chosen to be included at the bottom of the screen for quick-access you can drag your finger from the gesture area to the screen and keep it held down to bring up the wave. Simply bring your finger off the screen when it's over the app you want to launch and it will open in a new card.
- Switch Applications (phones only): When you want to quickly switch between apps without moving to Card View, you can swipe your finger across the entire gesture area either left or right to move to the next open app. This feature needs to be enabled as it is off by default. It is accessible in the Screen & Lock app located in the launcher.
OTA Software Updates
Over-the-air software updates keep you up to speed with the latest enhancements to webOS. The same goes for data backup, which happens automatically each day. You can even erase your data remotely if your phone is lost or stolen. Many things are backed up, including saved memos (in the default memos app), texts, system settings, downloaded applications and their placement in the launcher.
Applications
Applications designed for the HP webOS platform make your phone more powerful, more useful, and more fun. And many take advantage of the Palm Synergy™ feature, allowing you to do more with just a touch. Automatically add an event date to your calendar. Share location information in one step.

At CES 2010, Palm introduced the PDK (Plug-in Development Kit) that allows developers to write apps in advanced coding languages to take full advantage of the hardware contained in the Palm Pre. Palm has partnered with a handful of high profile developers to deliver complex 3D games to the Pre such as Need For Speed, Sims 3, Oregon Trail and others.

webOS Updates

3.0.4* - 10/18/2011 - Changelog (Currently Touchpad only)
3.0.2 - <date?> - Changelog (Currently Touchpad only)
2.1.0* - 8/16/2011 - Changelog (Initial version for Pre 2 and newer phones only)
1.4.5 - 8/10/2010 - Changelog (Final official update for Pre/Pre+)
1.4.1.1 - 3/31/2010 - Changelog
1.4.0 - 2/25/2010 - Changelog
1.3.5.1 - 1/4/2010 - Changelog
1.3.5 - 12/28/2009 - Changelog
1.3.1 - 11/13/2009 - Changelog
1.2.1 - 10/2/2009 - Changelog
1.2.0 - 9/28/2009 - Changelog
1.1.0 - 7/23/2009 - Changelog
1.0.4 - 6/29/2009 - Changelog
1.0.3 - 6/19/2009 - Changelog
1.0.2 - 6/05/2009 - Changelog

* = Current Versions

Other Technologies

Touchstone

Palm Touchstone is based on inductive technology. Inductive coils inside the Touchstone Charging Dock generate a small, oscillating electromagnetic field and transmit it through the Touchstone Back Cover on your device. This allows you to charge your Palm webOS device without connecting a wire directly to it.

As you place your device on the Palm Touchstone Charging Dock, charging begins. It's easier, more convenient, and it charges your device in about the same amount of time as a standard power charger.

Features of Touchstone

Place your phone on the Palm Touchstone Charging Dock when you're on a call and its speakerphone automatically turns on.
Pick your phone up from the Palm Touchstone Charging Dock while you're on speakerphone and the conversation is automatically routed back to the earpiece.
For incoming phone calls, simply pick up the phone from the Palm Touchstone Charging Dock and it answers automatically, without having to tap the screen.
When your phone is not in use, Nightstand mode displays the time and incoming notifications while on the Palm Touchstone Charging Dock. On newer devices (Pre 2, Veer, and Touchpad), Exhibition mode allows a number of apps to display information when the device is on the Touchstone dock.

Carriers

Currently you can buy the older phones (anything before the Pre 2) on eBay or Craigslist if you really want to subject yourself to 2 year old hardware. If you buy an original Sprint Pre at this point, you are probably mentally deficient, get that checked out. The Pre 2 is available in unlocked GSM flavor, or CDMA on Verizon. The Veer is AT&T only in the US, not sure about Europe. The Pre 3... What Pre 3? (You can maybe buy this in the UK unlocked if you're lucky, maybe).

What's in store for the future of webOS?

Right now, nobody knows. There has been a respectable level of interest generated by the insane firesale following HP throwing in the towel with hardware. Whether that goes anywhere at all is up in the air at this point. I'll say it straight up: don't buy into this ecosystem expecting any official support in the future.

UPDATE DEC. 9, 2011: HP has announced that they plan to keep webOS around (yay!), and make the source code available under an open-source arrangement. CEO Meg Whitman also commented that they will produce NEW tablet hardware at some point in the probably-not-near-future, but no more smartphones are on the horizon (though another hardware manufacturer could theoretically take the open-source OS and make their own handset with it). At the end of the day, we're stuck waiting again.

What makes webOS better?

webOS combines some of the best aspects of iOS (good, consistent design, easy to navigate launcher and homescreen, easy to use App Catalog) and Android (very easy to tweak), and builds on those strengths with its unique multitasking abilities and gesture-based operation.

Useful Links/Resources/Help

Official Palm US Site
Official Palm Blog
Palm webOSdev Development Site - Download SDK for development, read helpful documentations, developer forums, etc.
Official Palm Pre (Sprint) Help & Support page - Support, Help, Video Walkthrough, basic stuff (how to zoom in, close cards, etc)
PreCentral - Pre/Pixi Community Forums/Blog/News etc. Also a place to browse Homebrew Apps, Themes, Patches.
webOS Internals - Team of individuals who have been paving the way for things like: how to gain Linux Access, Development Tools, browse Documentation, etc. Lot of deep internal stuff.
webOSroundup - A site that I have been helping out with that features video reviews of numerous apps to help you get a better idea of what's good (and bad) in the App Catalog.

Homebrew Help
Homebrew is the terminology describing applications, patches, themes and tweaks that can be custom installed without having to use the official App Catalog on your device. There are many things that webOS devices are capable of once you unlock these features and there are multiple ways of going about gaining access to these tweaks, both on and off your device.

How to Install Homebrew Apps

webOS Quick Install
webOS Quick Install (WOSQI) is a GUI desktop program that allows you to customize your device with patches, apps, themes, etc. This is what most people use to install things onto their devices who don't want (or know how) to use Linux commands to do so.

How to: Getting Started: Homebrew Apps, Patches and Themes with WebOS Quick Install

Preware
Preware is installable via WOSQI and is an on-device application that allows you to do most, if not all of the things that WOQI can do on your computer. Want to install a Patch or Theme on the go without being tied to your dekstop? Preware lets you do it.

How to: How to Use Preware for Homebrew Apps, Patches, and Themes

Random things you should know, FAQs

Booting into recovery mode to run webOS Doctor on a device - Power off your device, hold down the UP volume button, and plug it into a USB port on your computer. It will begin to boot and soon after, show a large USB icon on the screen.
Cut/Copy/Paste How-To, Limitations, Text Input - [Phones:] In editable text fields - you hold the Symbol key and the entire screen becomes somewhat of a trackball, you swipe in any direction and your cursor moves around. Hold Shift instead, and swipe to select text. To edit the text you can either hit the Menu button at the top left of the screen and hit "edit" then either "cut", "copy" or "paste". More easily you can hold your finger in the gesture area so the button lights up, and then hit C for copy, X for cut, or P for paste. In web pages/e-mails you can hold the Shift key and tap on any paragraph and it will become selected so you can copy it. You cannot only select a word or sentence, the whole paragraph will become highlighted. You can open Memos to paste the entire thing and then re-select the tidbit you want to paste elsewhere. In messaging, tapping a message will give you the option to copy or forward the text.

[Touchpad:] Hold your finger on text to start the selection process. You can select a single word or drag handles to select multiple words. Select from copy/cut/paste options that appear near your selection. Long-Press in a selected text field to bring up options for Pasting copied text.

(Posted from my HP Touchpad

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sirbeefalot fucked around with this message at May 20, 2012 around 16:59

# ? Sep 3, 2011 04:52

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# ? May 20, 2013 02:06

AxeManiac: Nov 13, 2000; Always Drinking

Thanks, I'm a moron, but I just hacked my touchpad using that link. It is super fast now and I can quickly find nothing to do with it now!

# ? Sep 3, 2011 05:43

Stumpus: Dec 25, 2009

Is it possible to get ms OneNote on the touchpad?

# ? Sep 3, 2011 10:46

Bodzilla: Mar 11, 2007; Beep beep, motherf*cker!

UK goons, the promo codes for free apps are up: http://blog.palm.com/palm/2011/09/g...e-who-wait.html

# ? Sep 3, 2011 11:45

CancerCakes: Jan 10, 2006; THIS IS HOW I THUNDERDOME

Nice OP! Again if anyone has bought a touchpad the tweaks post is a must, then OC to 1.5 for a speed boost! Perhaps a must have app list a general tips would be useful.
One app that is great is touchplayer, you can get it through preware and it plays AVI, unlike the stock media player.

To enable capslock on the touchpad press one shift then the other SO YOU CAN RAGE EFFICIENTLY.

Personally I would love a torrent client that doesn't require ubuntu dual boot and a picture manager that obeys that obeys directories.

# ? Sep 3, 2011 11:54

PabloBOOM: Mar 10, 2004; Hunchback of DOOM

CancerCakes posted:

To enable capslock on the touchpad press one shift then the other SO YOU CAN RAGE EFFICIENTLY.

Double-tapping one of the shift buttons also accomplishes this.

I remember people saying before that overclocking to 1.5 didn't seem to negatively affect battery life noticeably. Is this still the masses' opinion? Right now, I prefer battery life to speed so I'm not doing it for now.

# ? Sep 3, 2011 17:19

OptimusMatrix: Nov 13, 2003; ASK ME ABOUT MUTILATING MY PET TO SUIT MY OWN AESTHETIC PREFERENCES

PabloBOOM posted:

Double-tapping one of the shift buttons also accomplishes this.

I remember people saying before that overclocking to 1.5 didn't seem to negatively affect battery life noticeably. Is this still the masses' opinion? Right now, I prefer battery life to speed so I'm not doing it for now.

I honestly think I have a decrease in battery life running at 1.5 but who knows. But its not enough to make me stop using it.

# ? Sep 3, 2011 17:39

falz: Jan 29, 2005; 01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010

I bought this a2dp bluetooth adapter:

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wire...0/dp/B004VM1T5S

hooked it up today and it paired just fine with my touchpad. However when I play audio nothing comes out. I had the same issue with my Sprint Pre in my car with an older aftermarket Pioneer deck. I chalked it up to an issue on the Pioneer since the internet shows a lot of issues with it. The bt adapter works fine with my Android CM7 phone. Anyone aware of a solution for this?

edit: this reviewer says it works fine on their Pre so one would think it would work with a Touchpad

http://www.amazon.com/review/RUF7139VOEH21/

edit 2: I loaded up a YouTube video as well as a flash website and they worked but were a bit quiet. Angry birds also worked. I tried 3rd party apps AmpacheXL, Pandora, Tune in radio and they don't. When using these apps there's just silence, disabling bt immediately makes it play through the touchtouchpad's speakers. What kind of f'd up Bluetooth works this terrible way?

falz fucked around with this message at Sep 3, 2011 around 20:10

# ? Sep 3, 2011 18:59

Star War Sex Parrot: Oct 2, 2003

Thank you very much for making a new thread! Great job!

# ? Sep 3, 2011 19:03

JayKay: Sep 11, 2001; And you thought they were cute and cuddly.

My Pre 2 arrived yesterday and I'm really trying hard to keep an open mind with it. I've patched the crap out of it and done all the other tweaks but honestly it is really hard to compare to my HTC Thunderbolt.
I even feel that it really pales in comparison to the Touchpad.

For a cheap toy to go along with my other cheap toy/touchpad it's not bad, but when I have a Thunderbolt benched while the Pre is my daily driver, its hard to justify. Touchstone charging is awesome but the entire form factor of the Pre 2 nullifies the coolness of the Touchstone.

Now if they made a Pre at least the size of the OG Droid (or at least bigger screen/bigger keyboard) with the power of the Touchpad, I'd be in love. Throw in a 4G radio on top of that and I'd probably be strongly considering walking away from Android.

I'm going at least try to daily drive the Pre 2 for 30 days before I give up. At least I have a good backup phone now.

Edit: In other news, my official HP Touchpad case came in and I'm pretty happy with it.

JayKay fucked around with this message at Sep 3, 2011 around 19:42

# ? Sep 3, 2011 19:34

scanlonman: Feb 7, 2008; your new superman

What's the best stand/case for the HP Touchpad on amazon?

# ? Sep 3, 2011 19:54

Q_res: Oct 29, 2005; Domo Arigato, Mr Roboto.

JayKay posted:

Edit: In other news, my official HP Touchpad case came in and I'm pretty happy with it.

Yeah, the official case is awesome as hell, if only because it's Touchstone compatible.

# ? Sep 3, 2011 20:37

thelightguy: Feb 6, 2007; Well there's your problem.

So has anyone cracked one of these open to see if there's even traces for the mythical card reader? I noticed when I was poking around the filesystem that it does have the mount point for a card set up.

# ? Sep 3, 2011 21:01

OptimusMatrix: Nov 13, 2003; ASK ME ABOUT MUTILATING MY PET TO SUIT MY OWN AESTHETIC PREFERENCES

How in the hell do I video chat with my dad? We both have skype accounts. And we're lost from there. I don't know how to add him to my contacts via skype. I created a new contact with his username as the skype im address but when I try and place a video call it says no contact found. What the hell are we doing wrong.

Edit
Nevermind I got it. I had to download the drat computer app then add him on there and try calling him and he called me back and it rang on my touchpad. what a pain the rear end.

OptimusMatrix fucked around with this message at Sep 3, 2011 around 21:50

# ? Sep 3, 2011 21:25

falz: Jan 29, 2005; 01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010

The wife and I created Skype accounts to test on the touchpad. Had to have each others contact info in the address list then it worked fine. I saw no way to search for a Skype user from the app if they're not already int your contact list.

# ? Sep 3, 2011 21:55

Puddin: Apr 8, 2004; Leave it to Brak

OptimusMatrix posted:

I honestly think I have a decrease in battery life running at 1.5 but who knows. But its not enough to make me stop using it.

It definitely does affect my battery life. 1.2 sits on a stupidly low battery drain, something like 5-10% on standby per day, with 1.5 it was up to about 30% per day and 1.7 even more than that.

# ? Sep 3, 2011 22:25

Froist: Jun 6, 2004; Squirrels!

Puddin posted:

It definitely does affect my battery life. 1.2 sits on a stupidly low battery drain, something like 5-10% on standby per day, with 1.5 it was up to about 30% per day and 1.7 even more than that.

Countering your anecdotal figures with my own, for me (at 1.7) the other day it only dropped 10% in about 28 hours. That included being connected to wifi the whole time with Exchange notifications going off, and a 'new toy' demo session to a mate, but admittedly light usage otherwise.

# ? Sep 3, 2011 22:46

Puddin: Apr 8, 2004; Leave it to Brak

Yeah, it seems that different peoples mileage my vary.

I'm still going to leave it at 1.5/1.7 as its speedy as gently caress, it probably won't ever leave the house so I will charge it when I need to.

# ? Sep 3, 2011 22:48

Chro: Jul 3, 2003; My birdie runs linux.

OptimusMatrix posted:

... I don't know how to add him to my contacts via skype. I created a new contact with his username as the skype im address but when I try and place a video call it says no contact found. ...

This worked just fine for me. I added a few people to test with and it worked just fine for calling them via Skype. Though for each dial attempt, it took about 5 or so seconds to do anything.

I went to Contacts, "Create a new contact", then under "New IM Address", I selected Skype from the pop out button and put their Skype name. There was nothing extra I had to do to get it to work.

# ? Sep 3, 2011 23:33

sirbeefalot: Aug 24, 2004; Fast Learner.

thelightguy posted:

So has anyone cracked one of these open to see if there's even traces for the mythical card reader? I noticed when I was poking around the filesystem that it does have the mount point for a card set up.

This has been around since the Pre (which obviously had no card reader), it's probably there "just-in-case."

On an unrelated note, I'm loving the gently caress out of the Touchpad's on screen keyboard. Having a number row is such a "why the hell hasn't anyone else done this" sort of thing. Long-press and drag for alternate symbols also works really well (I know iOS does this too, at least). Only thing that's lacking for me is a fine cursor positioning function.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 00:58

BullChicken: Jun 1, 2000; Gary, me need sex now inside please

My phone has the same kind of plug for its charger but when I plug it into my touchpad it says that there isn't enough power to charge it, does anyone know if this is the same for car chargers? Will I have to get a special one?

# ? Sep 4, 2011 01:21

sirbeefalot: Aug 24, 2004; Fast Learner.

BullChicken posted:

My phone has the same kind of plug for its charger but when I plug it into my touchpad it says that there isn't enough power to charge it, does anyone know if this is the same for car chargers? Will I have to get a special one?

Yes and yes. You'll want to find a car charger that outputs 5V/2A over the USB port. Most phone chargers output either 500mA or 1A.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 02:14

BullChicken: Jun 1, 2000; Gary, me need sex now inside please

sirbeefalot posted:

Yes and yes. You'll want to find a car charger that outputs 5V/2A over the USB port. Most phone chargers output either 500mA or 1A.

Thanks for the info, would something like this work?
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/car-ci...1000-more-72926

# ? Sep 4, 2011 02:23

Migishu: Oct 22, 2005; I'll eat your fucking eyeballs if you're not careful

Anyone with Bluetooth headphones notice that the sound quality coming from the Touchpad is horrible? I swear I'm getting a lot of distortion and noise coming from my headphones when listening to music through the Touchpad. I listen to the same songs on my HTC Hero, and they're practically flawless.

Bodzilla posted:

UK goons, the promo codes for free apps are up: http://blog.palm.com/palm/2011/09/g...e-who-wait.html

They also have codes for Canada and Ireland. I managed to get all 3 apps. Big Boss is kinda fun, Camera for HP seems to work fine (haven't used it much), but holy hell, Glimpse is loving amazing. RSS, notepad, and all these other mini-apps that should have come with WebOS.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 03:01

Rent: Jul 20, 2004; Steal the warm wind tired friend

JayKay posted:

My Pre 2 arrived yesterday and I'm really trying hard to keep an open mind with it. I've patched the crap out of it and done all the other tweaks but honestly it is really hard to compare to my HTC Thunderbolt.
I even feel that it really pales in comparison to the Touchpad.

For a cheap toy to go along with my other cheap toy/touchpad it's not bad, but when I have a Thunderbolt benched while the Pre is my daily driver, its hard to justify. Touchstone charging is awesome but the entire form factor of the Pre 2 nullifies the coolness of the Touchstone.

Now if they made a Pre at least the size of the OG Droid (or at least bigger screen/bigger keyboard) with the power of the Touchpad, I'd be in love. Throw in a 4G radio on top of that and I'd probably be strongly considering walking away from Android.

I'm going at least try to daily drive the Pre 2 for 30 days before I give up. At least I have a good backup phone now.

Edit: In other news, my official HP Touchpad case came in and I'm pretty happy with it.

Keep in mind the Pre 2 is pretty old hardware; it originally came out in October of 2010. Palm just hosed up the release incredibly, so it didn't hit US shores until February 2011, but not after they announced the Pre 3. Then it was only sold on Verizon.com. It was sold a little bit earlier as a developer device; loving retarded.

The Pre 3 was basically supposed to be what you described; 1.5ghz cpu, 3.6" screen, ATT "4g", slightly larger keyboard. Too bad it was cancelled/dead/who knows.

quote:

The Pre 3 was released on August 17 in the United Kingdom. On 18 August, HP announced that it would be discontinuing all WebOS devices.

Rent fucked around with this message at Sep 4, 2011 around 05:27

# ? Sep 4, 2011 05:21

Matlock: Sep 12, 2004; Childs Play Charity 2011 Total: $1755

I have to say I love Need for Speed Hot Pursuit on the Touchpad. The graphics are great, the controls are tight. It just works (TM)

# ? Sep 4, 2011 05:26

thelightguy: Feb 6, 2007; Well there's your problem.

Touchstone and case arrived today. I have to say, on their own they are both great accessories, but combined, they suck. With the case on, my touchpad will only charge in one direction, and only with the case closed, or open to the side. I can't fold it back and still have it work, and it will not charge at all in landscape with the case on.

So I've settled on pulling it out of its case to put it on the touchstone, which is just a pain in the balls.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 05:34

FearIt: Mar 11, 2007

Have any of you guys been able to get OpenSsh working on the tablet?
I installed it using PRE, but when I try to SSH into the device I get "Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive)."

# ? Sep 4, 2011 05:46

thelightguy: Feb 6, 2007; Well there's your problem.

I've only ever used it to SSH out into other servers, so I can say that the client at least works.

I'm pretty sure the server has password auth turned off by default, so you'll have to install your other SSH client's public key on the touchpad before it will let you login.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 05:52

HorseDickSandwich: Apr 29, 2007; Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?

Here's the obligatory, does anyone have an extra just laying around collecting dust they would like to sell to me for a fair price?

Has HP put out a time period to when they are going to turn the lights off on the appstore?

# ? Sep 4, 2011 06:38

thelightguy: Feb 6, 2007; Well there's your problem.

They're still pretending WebOS has a future right now.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 06:53

AxeManiac: Nov 13, 2000; Always Drinking

Matlock posted:

I have to say I love Need for Speed Hot Pursuit on the Touchpad. The graphics are great, the controls are tight. It just works (TM)

Do they do demos for any of these games? I'd like to see what the pad can do outside of flash games but don't feel like buying anything.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 07:05

Q_res: Oct 29, 2005; Domo Arigato, Mr Roboto.

thelightguy posted:

Touchstone and case arrived today. I have to say, on their own they are both great accessories, but combined, they suck. With the case on, my touchpad will only charge in one direction, and only with the case closed, or open to the side. I can't fold it back and still have it work, and it will not charge at all in landscape with the case on.

So I've settled on pulling it out of its case to put it on the touchstone, which is just a pain in the balls.

You're doing it wrong. Put the flap hinge at the bottom and let the flap drop forward, on the table. Bam, landscape Touchstone charging.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 11:42

Methodis: Mar 22, 2010; by Ozmaugh

Wait the plan is to turn off the AppStore? Wouldn't that be dumb as they could still atleast make some kind of profit off of it?

Guess I better get to buying stuff that remotely interests me then.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 13:24

flyboi: Oct 13, 2005; agg stop posting

No they haven't said anything about that. HP is still trying to tell developers to not leave because nothing is going to change so anything at this point is pure speculation.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 13:27

Duckman2008: Jan 6, 2010; Don't you know there ain't no devil, its just God when he's drunk.

Methodis posted:

Wait the plan is to turn off the AppStore? Wouldn't that be dumb as they could still atleast make some kind of profit off of it?

Guess I better get to buying stuff that remotely interests me then.

Stupid possibilities like this are the reason why I didn't buy a Touchpad.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 13:31

falz: Jan 29, 2005; 01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010

Migishu posted:

Anyone with Bluetooth headphones notice that the sound quality coming from the Touchpad is horrible? I swear I'm getting a lot of distortion and noise coming from my headphones when listening to music through the Touchpad. I listen to the same songs on my HTC Hero, and they're practically flawless.

I mentioned Bluetooth audio issues I'm having above. The volume is far lower than it should be and it doesn't work in most apps. What app are you using to listen? I found some hack to increase the Bluetooth volume before I used it and can't find the info again.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 13:45

JayKay: Sep 11, 2001; And you thought they were cute and cuddly.

Rent posted:

Keep in mind the Pre 2 is pretty old hardware; it originally came out in October of 2010. Palm just hosed up the release incredibly, so it didn't hit US shores until February 2011, but not after they announced the Pre 3. Then it was only sold on Verizon.com. It was sold a little bit earlier as a developer device; loving retarded.

The Pre 3 was basically supposed to be what you described; 1.5ghz cpu, 3.6" screen, ATT "4g", slightly larger keyboard. Too bad it was cancelled/dead/who knows.

I'd be all over a Pre 3 if it made it to the US...and VZW adopted it...and....

I think one of my problems is that I had really REALLY low expectations when I got my Touchpad. Then after playing with it for awhile, I realized it did what I wanted it to (email, browser, kindle) and it did it really well. I thought that maybe some of that would translate over to the Pre so I had some expectations with it. There's also a bit of nostalgia for me as I my Treo 600 was my lifeline in college until I ventured into Windows Mobile.

With my Thunderbolt, it's powerful enough and the screen is large enough that I really didn't need a tablet as I could really do most Tablet-y things on it and get by. However, with the Pre I really do need the Touchpad in order to do things like surf the web on something other than a WAP site.

I'd rate the Pre 2 as lower than the OG Droid on my scale of good phones I've owned, with the Droid X and Thunderbolt ahead of course.

JayKay fucked around with this message at Sep 4, 2011 around 14:43

# ? Sep 4, 2011 14:35

sirbeefalot: Aug 24, 2004; Fast Learner.

JayKay posted:

With my Thunderbolt, it's powerful enough and the screen is large enough that I really didn't need a tablet as I could really do most Tablet-y things on it and get by. However, with the Pre I really do need the Touchpad in order to do things like surf the web on something other than a WAP site.

Its a shame that the bump to a WVGA screen wasn't made with the Pre 2. That's just one of the many complaints I have with how that phone was handled, but its a big one.

Honestly, the Pre 3 is what the Pre 2 should have been (maybe not the 1.4 Ghz processor at that point, but most everything else). But, no sense in ruminating over phones.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 14:48

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# ? May 20, 2013 02:06

flyboi: Oct 13, 2005; agg stop posting

Also considering app sales went up 5x after the firesale I really doubt the appstore is going anywhere anytime soon.

# ? Sep 4, 2011 14:49

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