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Is there, like, a point to the Shar-Teel romance? Or is this going to be the equivalent of an endless Facebook poking session?
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 13:33 |
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Xander77 posted:Is there, like, a point to the Shar-Teel romance? Or is this going to be the equivalent of an endless Facebook poking session? There has been some confusion about this, because mods in the game have introduced a new aspect to romances - flirttalks. In the original game there were lovetalks, which were periodic conversations that you would have with your beloved that progressed in a storyboard fashion. Eventually you'd become exclusive and have sex and even make babies in the case of Aerie. I'm sure everyone that played the game plopped that kid in the Bag of Holding and kept right on. But in the BG1 Flirtpack mod (And the BG2 Flirtpack mod) your sweetums also periodically talks to you in the way Shar-Teel is doing now, not doing any consequential conversation but just flirting as a way of introducing more stuff to the romance. Those are flirttalks. Also you can talk to them in a number of inconsequential ways. In this case, with Shar-Teel, what we've been seeing is a lot of flirttalks and no lovetalks since I told her I wasn't going to pull her boot off for her way back in the day. This is because the next lovetalk, LT7, needs me to be injured and not in combat to trigger. And I've just been staying out of danger and/or getting healed too much to trigger it. I'll try to stay injured during the next update in order to try to trigger something beyond shar-teel turning to us with grace and blah blah.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 13:53 |
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Vorgen posted:In this case, with Shar-Teel, what we've been seeing is a lot of flirttalks and no lovetalks since I told her I wasn't going to pull her boot off for her way back in the day. This is because the next lovetalk, LT7, needs me to be injured and not in combat to trigger. And I've just been staying out of danger and/or getting healed too much to trigger it. I'll try to stay injured during the next update in order to try to trigger something beyond shar-teel turning to us with grace and blah blah. Worst comes to worst, I'm pretty sure you can just have a member of the party give the PC a whack or two.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 14:00 |
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Cythereal posted:Worst comes to worst, I'm pretty sure you can just have a member of the party give the PC a whack or two. Are we roleplaying Shar-Teels flirting now?
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 14:03 |
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Orange Devil posted:Are we roleplaying Shar-Teels flirting now? "Where I come from, this is how we signal our willingness to mate." *spinal fracture*
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 14:04 |
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This LP has a disappointing number of gibs so far. While I voted for Shar-Teel's inclusion, perhaps it would be best if the problem were to be permanently resolved in a shower of flying body parts. A final solution to the Shar-Teel question, if you will. GenVec fucked around with this message at Oct 21, 2011 around 22:25 |
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GenVec posted:This LP has a disappointing number of gibs so far. While I voted for Shar-Teel's inclusion, perhaps it would be best if the problem were to be permanently resolved in a shower of flying body parts. It seems needlessly cruel to kill everyone who could possibly replace her, though.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 22:55 |
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It would be far crueller to deny this thread its moments of grace and strength, if little of pleasantness. Next update, Vorgen should barricade the inn doors and burn them all to the ground.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 02:32 |
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GenVec posted:This LP has a disappointing number of gibs so far. While I voted for Shar-Teel's inclusion, perhaps it would be best if the problem were to be permanently resolved in a shower of flying body parts. Pretty sure my first vote for her included gibbing her to prevent her coming back.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 03:26 |
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Anal Papist posted:It would be far crueller to deny this thread its moments of grace and strength, if little of pleasantness. Next update, Vorgen should barricade the inn doors and burn them all to the ground. Nice idea, but this is D&D rules. Normal fire only does 1d6 damage per round. Falling only does 1d6 for every ten feet you fall. There's not a one of those characters who wouldn't have at least a 50/50 chance of making it to the second floor and surviving the jump. You'd kill all the normal 1d4 hp waitstaff and guests, but the characters with levels? They'd be fine.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 04:35 |
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This thread is very entertaining with the Shar-Teel controversy, and Vorgen does a great job of showing off the locations, but boy am I glad I never installed any of the romance mods myself.
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 23 Kythorn, 1369 I have a talk with Gavin. I tell him he should take a break, visit his family, talk to his girl. I tell him we'll be back soon, no worries. He actually seems to want to stay here at the Carnival for the moment. That's fine with me. Maybe he can take care of some orphans or something. He volunteers his magical sling and platemail, saying that Viconia and Minsc can use them in his absence. We happily agree. Gameplay note: there's something screwy with Gavin - he doesn't give his normal leaving the party dialogue. If we want him back we're going to have to come back to the Nashkel Carnival and CTRL-Q him into the party. I don't think that's going to be a big problem... Then we officially welcome Branwen into the party. She doesn't have any equipment at all, so once again there is a big eq shuffle. Minsc gets Gavin's old platemail, which is something I should have done already. I give Branwen a choice of Splint mail, Chainmail, or Chainmail +1 to use. Oddly enough the Splint mail offers the same protection as the magical chainmail, but the magic stuff is 5 pounds lighter. Since Branwen can only carry 90 pounds I consider that to be a significant factor and let her have the magical stuff. Viconia is too weak to carry a medium shield, but Branwen hefts one easily, so she gets one from our stash. She also gets Gavin's old magical sling and some bullets. We're going to have to find a warhammer for her but that's not a huge priority. She can summon a battle axe if she really needs to melee.  Gameplay note: I currently have 666 gold. This is insanely ominous. As I order everyone to get into formation...    *She scowls, but there are so many emotions tangled in her scowl that you dare not interpret this facial impression one way or another.*Not two seconds later...    That's all right, Branwen. It was a pleasure. Not merely a pleasure on your part. Those scrolls are not dropped by every gibberling and goblin, and they are worth goodly coin besides. You have sacrificed for me, and I shall sacrifice of my blood and sweat for you.Wow, this woman doesn't joke around when it comes to fighting. That comforts me. If she dies I don't think I'll feel guilty. Our front line now consists of me, flanked by Minsc and Shar-Teel. Behind Minsc is Branwen, behind Shar-Teel is Viconia, and behind me is my trusty sidekick Imoen. We are going to kick so much rear end.  And because we are not yet prepared to go into the Nashkel mines, since Minsc's damsel must be saved, we are just going to scout around there to make sure we know the area.  We get there in 8 hours without mishap. The place is actually kind of ominous and scary, what with this dead tree standing here in the rain and the thunder.  It's a good thing we check out the tree, though, because someone hid a magical bow inside of it!  I give this to Imoen. At least I was going to, but somehow it's already out of my hands and onto her back before I turn around. Strange. We go further down into the mine pit. As we go down I realize that I haven't cast Armor, so I go ahead and do that. The magic gets away from me though, and even though Armor is supposed to be a self-cast only spell, well...  I hope he appreciates the 9 hour duration!  Ooh, double shifts. I guess he'll only be protected for the first one. When we get down to the mine entrance itself, it is physically blocked off by Amnish soldiers.  So we go and talk to Emerson. What else is there to do?   Huh, someone is grumpy today. Must have gotten up on the wrong side o' the bed or somethin'.Then, going back to tell the soldiers that we have authorization, we get this.  Just because we have authorization, that's no reason to rush in there unprepared or anything. Let's take a look around the surface first. Maybe there will be some clue to what's going on down there. Just to the east of the mine we see some kind of outbuilding.  We go inside, naturally, and find war dogs inside, unnaturally.  They die extremely quickly. Imoen looks around and comes up with 33 gold and a healing potion, but not much else. We go back ouside and keep walking around. As we do so a colorful man yells at us to stop.  Actually, we're adventurers. We're here to help out. Perhaps you could tell us about what's been going on in the region. We could use some more fighting men. If you want to know where to go, just go to the northwest. Up there is the mines. Emerson might tell you that he don't need any adventurers, but you don't listen to him. We need as many men as we can get. Anything else? Well, ya, there's this crazy guy. I think he calls himself Prism. He's been making a sculpture in a cliff side. Kind of a kook if you ask me. I'll see you later then.Huh. Someone who was worried about my safety, appreciated my offer to help, and then gave me good intel about the region? The weave must surely be smiling upon us today! As we continue to walk around the area, we find a contingent of Amnish soldiers hiding out underneath a dead tree. We don't ask and they don't tell.  A little later we are attacked by two angry bears in a forested region.  They go down quickly with little resistance. They only swipe me once. As we are walking away from their corpses, Shar-Teel addresses Branwen.  'Tis of no consequence. Tempus tests all his faithful. If I were in your position, I would have simply killed them. Male leadership was bound to lead your village to disaster anyway, so a wholesale culling of the fools would have been a final gift to your people. I could not defeat the elders in battle, I'm afraid, or I might indeed have challenged them for my right to stay. Who said anything about challenging anyone? Just poison them, or kill them in their sleep. Maybe arrange for a convenient 'accident.' By Auril's breath, I have never heard such wickedness! Only the spawn of Loki fight in such underhanded ways! I am a servant of Tempus, a warrior, not a murderer! And that, fool, is why you are thousands of leagues away from your home in the middle of nowhere hoping for the 'favor' of your god while the elders are probably relaxing in a warm, comfortable tent with all the wine and meat they can stomach! Until you can understand that the ends justify the means, you will continue to handicap yourself to no purpose. Now away from me. Such naivete makes me sick.Uh... did Shar-Teel just advocate poisoning older men in their sleep? I feel a little unsure of my place in the world. Am I older than her? Younger? Does she ever prepare any food for me? Sometimes I wonder why I love this woman at all.  *She glowers... Her eyes are like stars... shooting stars... or Melf' Minute Meteors... Uhm, make it Melf's Acid Arrows.*Oh right, I love her because she'll murder me in my sleep if I stop. We continue to explore the area, when a tiny person runs out of the trees towards us.  Calm down. Tell us what's going on and we'll see if w can help you. They're kobolds: dozens of them! They captured me northwest of here, stripped me down, stole and hid my clothes, my weapons, my wand, and my gold! Then the dirty imps tortured me for no other reason other than to hear me scream! But... I got away... they'll be here soon... we have to run... get out of here! That sounds like a good enough reason for torture to me. If you can't fend off a few kobolds yourself, why presume we would bother to help you? You... You black-hearted fiend! Oh no... it's too late: they're here!And then somehow they are. They are right next to Shar-Teel.  Two of them are killed before Shar-Teel's frost aura can even go up. The third dies as it begins to flare. The fourth as she finally swings.  The gnome runs northwest, presumably to safety. We shrug. No big deal. Later, we find more Amnish soldiers in the trees.  Gameplay note: These soldiers are showing up at mob spawn points. It is some modder's touch that this area, highly valuable to Amn as an iron mine, would be swarming with Amnish soldiers. It is a nice touch. Better than kobolds everywhere!  *She scowls...* Don't you dare to tell me not to scowl, dolt!Near a cliffside we find a man in bright blue clothing, staring at a face in the cliff. I approach him.  It is a sculpture of a darthiir! How disgusting. I have nothing to do with anyone named Greywolf, and nor would I want to. Thank Deneir, I thought I was done in. I am not cut out for a life on the run. Mayhaps you could help a foolish sculptor finish this epiphany? Please, guard this place, for surely Greywolf will come seeking the bounty on the gems. I will pay with my last possessions if you would do this one service for me. Wow, this is beautiful! D'ya think someone'll make our statues one day, Syvishtar? Seeing how we're 'bout to become great heroes and all?Gameplay note: We do eventually get statues made in our honor, yes. Although Imoen will probably be imprisoned in Spellhold being tortured and having her soul ripped from her body by that time. This is an unusually poignant interjection for people who've played the game before. But I think I will purposefully wait until I've rescued her to do that part of the game, just because of what she said here back at level 4. If it is so important, then I shall guard you as best I can. Yes. I thank you, for I cannot run from this place until my task is done. I have been using potions of speed to aid my work, and have not slept for days. She is beautiful, is she not? 'Tis a monument to my foolishness. I saw her but once, on the outskirts of Evereska, and said nothing. I let thee pass from mine eyes, and mine heart hath cursed me for it!A few seconds later...  No! Not yet! My work is nearly done! Please, I implore you! Your sentiment is wasted on me, fool. You are but gold in my purse. Do you make your situation worse by hiring help to protect you? Who are you fools? Who we are is unimportant. What is important, is that we are armed to the teeth and we mean to stop you from hurting him! Wait! I recognize you! It was you that stole a bounty rightfully mine! Prism will live a moment longer while I kill the lot of you! I've heard of you... You are Greywolf, and you will be making your apologies to Ysena in Hades today, or my name is not Shar-Teel! Shar-Teel? You must be the ridiculous brat Ysena scooped out of the gutter! The one and only, though you'll find me a little more than just a brat. You betrayed Ysena to the Fists, because of a quarrel over the reward for a run-away slave. I've been wanting ot meet you for a long time, Greywolf - do you know why? *grins* Do enlighten me. So I can skewer your guts through with the point of my sword. Wrong!Oh, so this is Greywolf. Oops on the bounty stealing I guess? Of course, he attacks us.   He gets a good hit in on Imoen to start with. I tell her to retreat.  Then we see him drink a potion.  After that, his next hit almost destroys Branwen. He's smart to not focus on any of the tanks.  When he comes after me, I decide to show him the power of Rhialto. I use his spellbook to cast Rhialto's Random Missiles at Greywolf.  One missile comes out of my hands to hit him. I also start glowing. I don't think that's quite intimidating enough, so I go for a Blade Shower.  But the magic swirls around in my head strangely, and I get dizzy.  No more spellcasting today! Does the magic think it's unfair? If it does, Shar apparently doesn't have the same opinion, because Viconia's spell goes off without a hitch.  Shar-Teel and Minsc send him flying away from us in chunks.  He was carrying a Masterwork Long Sword, some Studded Leather Armor, and a Potion of Invulnerability.  He should have drank it. Shar-Teel seems to have learned a lot from this experience.    Gameplay note: All her saving throws and her THAC0 were also reduced by 1, and she got a third star in Two-handed Swords.  Gameplay note: Ellesime is a real character in this game, and actually a major plot point later. We got two Emeralds, some money, and a Green Gem Bag from Prism's corpse.   The gem bag is important because it carries gems and jewelry and all the other things we need to bribe NPCs to join us. It's important to our plans to get Bjornin, Thalantyr, and/or Keldath on our side. We also got 454 xp and +1 rep, bringing us to 8!   "One day," she announces gloomily, "One day, I'll gut you like a fish."At least it won't be poison. That's good I guess? Looking around, we realize that we have explored the entire area, and there is nothing left to do but go back to Nashkel.  Shar is a goddess of conviction and purpose.Ok babe, whatever you say. When we get back to Nashkel, it's dark. We stop by the store and sell the random useless armor and weapons we picked up. We're up to 908 gold! Imoen takes some time to chat up the locals, as is her wont.    We also decide that now is a good time to drink a little. We have the coin and the inclination. We hear some interesting rumors.    Uh oh. That's right where we're going next. With a thoroughly drunk Imoen on our hands, there's nothing left to do but go to sleep. But first I try to talk to my companions.  You always berate men, Shar-Teel. Is there at least one thing you can commend them upon? I can find a use or two for the stronger ones between the sheets. But they get used up so quickly... What've you been thinking about lately, Minsc? Ahh! Minsc has been discussing with Boo about how he thought he saw another Miniature Giant Space Hamster yesterday. Hmm? What seems to be wrong, Imoen? *giggling* Nothing... Here, come try this drink! It makes you feel all warm and tingly inside. You are so alluring, Viconia... simply irresistible. Were we in the Underdark, you would have been flayed alive. But you have a nerve, jaluk. I like it. I like your temper, Branwen. Good! Our war party should consist of the like-minded companions, after all.Yes, she has a point... something I consider long into the night as I try to go to sleep. In the morning, we cross the bridge and go look at the fields and farmlands to the west of the river. Imoen said it was disgusting how the farmers just hung out in their house all day, in the bedroom next to the chests. What is she on about? In the far southwest of the area, we found Juoma the Herbalist.  Can you enchant any of the items I have here? Let me see... you have a lot of weapons here... I don't see anything I could enchant. You need to get an unenchanted dagger or staff. In case of bigger or more complex weapons, I'm afraid I can't help you, wanderer. To have such stuff enchanted, go find an enchanter or wizard. Do I have any herbs that you could make use of? Let me see... you have lots of things in your bag and my eyes are not as good as they were when I was young... oh good old times... Anyway, take a look at this scroll please, you can recognize the herbs you have by reading it and checking the illustrations, it also shows you which herbs can be combined to make a potion... Gameplay note: This is the Herbs and Potions mod, and an extremely annoying interface. Without telling you what the potions are, you have the option of asking about all 12 of them just because you have the ingredients in your backpack. If you will remember way back in the day we looted some herbs off of a guy who died right in front of us? Well the herbs he was carrying we can use to make potions, with this interface.  But even if we want to make it we can only know the price, we don't know what it will do. Although if a healing potion costs 150 gold, and we end up paying 40 gold for a healing potion, that can't be TOO bad can it? So, fine, I'll find out what Door Number One gives us. Here you are. Thank you. Your potion will be ready soon. Please don't interrupt me during the creation process...She casts some spells, and then...  Thank you, Juoma. I hope you will make a good use of it.Gameplay note: And yes, it was a potion of healing that she made! Ok, this is pretty useful. It just takes time and some annoying dialog selection. Oh, also, Noober has been pestering me this whole time but I tried to ignore him.  This guy is really getting...  on...  my...  NERVES. 'Nough already!!! Outta my way! Let me at him! He's driving me insane!!! ENOUGH! ENOUGH! YOU'RE DRIVING MINSC MAD! YOU WOULDN'T LIKE MINSC WHEN HE'S MAD! Ya better listen to him littl' man. I've seen him tear the heads off of ogres, ya know... *gulp* Well, then... ahem... ta-ta, bye-bye, have a nice day and all that!And he actually goes away. Amazing!  *She glowers... Her eyes are like stars... shooting stars... or Melf's Minute Meteors... Uhm, make it Melf's Acid Arrows.*I am curious to see what kind of enchantments Juoma can put onto daggers and quarterstaves, so I go to the store and pick up a couple of each.  As I pass by, I notice a man just standing on the bridge in a bright red robe. I'll have to talk to him later, after this.  Can you enchant any of the items I have here? Let me see.. you have a lot of weapons here... You have a staff and a dagger here that I could enchant. The result of the process can not be predicted: if successful, your weapon will have either fire or poison enchantment on it. However, I can enchant only two different items for you, the process drains my powers for some time. The dagger enchantment costs 3500gp while the staff enchant is 4300 gold. Which do you choose? I can afford neither, unfortunately. You can always return when you have the money, wanderer.Why is everyone in the Sword Coast asking a fortune for almost nothing at all? I walk off in disgust to talk to the man in the bright red.  You want to kill Minsc's witch?! Your witch?! (Of all the adventurer groups in Faerun, I had to ask *these* particular baboons.) Yes, MY witch! Begone, sleazy Red Wizard, lest Boo have your eyes! Sleazy?! I bathed this morn! (Which is more than I can say about this gorilla.) Yes, sleazy! Now go, before I set my hamster on you! It's not your call, you overfed... overfed... monkey! (Yes, that will do.) Why would you have this woman dead? Am I to kill her without knowing? Frankly, yes. It is no concern of yours. You need but perform the act with no questions. What is your answer?I think back to Silke and how that turned out. I am not willing to kill without sufficient reason. Come with us, and if we find your 'Dynaheir' we will decide how to proceed. A wise decision. One can never be too cautious dealing with... her kind. (Yes, I shall watch for her carefully.) Boo and I will watch you, wizard... Keep that stinking rodent away from me. And the little smelly creature he carries, too.Gameplay note: Ok, lets take a look at the most powerful spellcaster in the game.   He's the same level of mage that I am, although 500 xp behind. He may look pretty normal on his Record, but his greatest asset is around his neck.  TWO EXTRA SPELLS each level. TWO. He has more staying power than any other mage in existence. Of course the amulet is not removable, even on death. What should we do with this Red Wizard of Thay? A: Put him in Minsc's spot. We're going to kill Dynaheir for Edwin, and it's best if Minsc doesn't witness that. B: Put him in Shar-Teel's spot. Need more pleasantness, if not strength or grace. C: Put him in Viconia's spot. Arcane power is superior to divine power. D: Put him in Branwen's spot. Arcane power is superior to divine power, and we barely know Branwen. E: Put him in Imoen's spot. Imoen could always use a vacation. F: Ship him off to the Jovial Juggler for later. We can save him for later, we've got heroics to do right now! Vorgen fucked around with this message at Oct 23, 2011 around 04:18 |
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Vorgen posted:B: Put him in Shar-Teel's spot. Need more pleasantness, if not strength or grace. Boy, are we barking up the wrong tree for pleasantness. Gonna say A, because everyone uses Minsc. Just finished BG1 with the BWP installed (only to uninstall and reinstall because I didn't have the mods I really wanted), and while the new Minsc comments on lots of events are amusing, not worth seeing him in yet another BG playthrough.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 12:16 |
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D: Put him in Branwen's spot. We already have a cleric, and Edwin's too awesome not to use.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 12:53 |
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F: Ship him off to the Jovial Juggler for later. Let's do Minsc's quest, ship him and Dynaheir off together, and then pick up Edwin, because Edwin is awesome.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 16:11 |
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Oh damnit I just remembered that you can't keep Edwin unless you find Dynaheir with him. So option F is really no option at all. edit: ok, i tested it out and you can tell him to go back to the Jovial Juggler. nevermind, false alarm. Vorgen fucked around with this message at Oct 22, 2011 around 17:22 |
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 Vote is now for Shar-teel Slaan fucked around with this message at Oct 23, 2011 around 15:49 |
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If you approach Edwin with Dynaheir in the party he'll ask to join you "to keep an eye on her". That may only work if you haven't talked to him before, though. F - We don't need no stinkin' Red Wizard
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 17:13 |
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D - We can adventure with Branwen later, right now we need to "rescue" Dynaheir with a half evil party.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 17:22 |
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F to avoid party clash
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 17:39 |
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A: Put him in Minsc's spot. We're going to kill Dynaheir for Edwin, and it's best if Minsc doesn't witness that. Because I don't want this to be another canonical walkthrough. I want a party with Edwin, Xzar, Kagain, Tiax, Shar-teel and a negative reputation. 
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 17:44 |
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quote:A: Put him in Minsc's spot. We're going to kill Dynaheir for Edwin, and it's best if Minsc doesn't witness that. I'm liking this low-rep thing we have going. Also, Shar-Teel is only getting increasingly hilarious.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 18:02 |
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We should definitely keep Minsc, Dynaheir, and Edwin in the same party, and that means rescuing Dynaheir. The only reason to keep Shar-Teel around is to advance her romance, and we need Viconia's rep penalty to keep her interested in us, so if we have Shar-Teel, we need to keep Viconia too. Imoen's got an important game function...opening chests and stealing people's poo poo...so that leaves Branwen. I like her, but we can see her again later. D - Put him in Branwen's spot jng2058 fucked around with this message at Oct 22, 2011 around 18:29 |
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Can we change this from "first past the post" to instant run-off voting? You've got 5 options where Edwin joins the party and 1 where he doesn't, so theoretically two people that didn't want him in could keep him locked out if the other five voters couldn't decide who they wanted to replace. I'm going to go with A, since both Edwin and Shar-teel are great and if you don't like them then I just don't know what to say to you. GenVec fucked around with this message at Oct 24, 2011 around 05:07 |
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Back to B. I'm a regular John Kerry! 
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jng2058 posted:We should definitely keep Minsc, Dynaheir, and Edwin in the same party, and that means rescuing Dynaheir. The only reason to keep Shar-Teel around is to advance her romance, and we need Viconia's rep penalty to keep her interested in us, so if we have Shar-Teel, we need to keep Viconia too. Imoen's got an important game function...opening chests and stealing people's poo poo...so that leaves Branwen. I like her, but we can see her again later. We don't need Viconia with us at all times. I'm fairly sure that we can send her back to the inn with no problem. Also E. I'm going to vote for Imoen from now on just to see if she does get sent away for awhile.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 19:44 |
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The thing is while replacing Shar-Teel with Edwin would be good party/class balance-wise, Minsc and Edwin are both pretty loving rad characters that both get really really REALLY cool later in the series but WILL Do The Dew and kill each other right here and right now (and certainly by the time we find Dynaheir) unless we keep them way the gently caress away from each other. Further complicating the situation is that the PC is a Wild Mage, which along with a PC Sorcerer is pretty much the only circumstance where passing up a hugely powerful single classed mage like Edwin for the remainder of a game where we'll be killing multiple demigods is at all sensible. FURTHER complicating the matter is that if we're really looking at playing through the entire series, we could just recruit Korgan in BG2 who is more than Berzerker enough for anyone with the added bonus of jibing well with low-rep parties. Voting A. Minsc will survive the loss of the unspectacular Dynaheir and come into his own later on, we're high enough level to drive onto the Gnoll Stronghold with just Shar-Teel, and if we need the tankyness sooner we can bring back Bub Snikt or Kagain for an update or two to pinch hit/stab as the case may be. Willie Tomg fucked around with this message at Oct 22, 2011 around 20:03 |
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Brainamp posted:We don't need Viconia with us at all times. I'm fairly sure that we can send her back to the inn with no problem. Except that if we ditch Viconia, our rep increases to 10 and Shar-Teel stops liking us, since she's only happy at rep 9 or below. So if you want to see the Shar-Teel romance progress, you either need to sink your rep through evil or through paying off a bard, or you need to keep Viconia in the party. EDIT: To be precise, Viconia imposes a -2 penalty to our reputation just by being in the party, because people are that scared of Drow.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 20:20 |
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Voting F, put him in later.
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Changing to B. Mikl fucked around with this message at Oct 23, 2011 around 17:51 |
| # ? Oct 22, 2011 22:22 |
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Y'all know my answer. Ditch shar-teel. Edwin may be unpleasant but he makes up for it by being exceptionally funny.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 22:53 |
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jng2058 posted:Except that if we ditch Viconia, our rep increases to 10 and Shar-Teel stops liking us, since she's only happy at rep 9 or below. So if you want to see the Shar-Teel romance progress, you either need to sink your rep through evil or through paying off a bard, or you need to keep Viconia in the party. You know what, let's just head the problem off with B. Shar-teel is creepy and boring now. Lord_Ventnor fucked around with this message at Oct 24, 2011 around 05:44 |
| # ? Oct 22, 2011 22:56 |
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Mikl posted:D. One cleric in the party is enough if we don't want more for tanking, and we've got Shar-Teel and Minsc for that. There are never enough clerics. Never
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 23:09 |
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jng2058 posted:EDIT: To be precise, Viconia imposes a -2 penalty to our reputation just by being in the party, because people are that scared of Drow. Cool. Didn't know that to be the case. Slaan posted:There are never enough clerics. Never Amen brother.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2011 23:37 |
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A, Minsc is more annoying than Shar-Teel's scowling.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 02:36 |
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B. No more formidable mating for a while, please.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 02:51 |
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Brainamp posted:Amen brother. There's still one more we haven't seen, and at the rate we're going, we won't see him for a long while yet.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 03:01 |
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B Voting for Shar-Teel to go away.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 03:10 |
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Cythereal posted:There's still one more we haven't seen, and at the rate we're going, we won't see him for a long while yet. If it's who I'm thinking of, then no we won't sadly enough.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 03:19 |
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I'll go with A, to avoid conflicts with Edwin. I don't particularly like Shar-Teel, but I'm not voting for her because I apparently don't share the passionate hatred some posters in this thread have for her. Also your new avatar is very accurate, Vorgen.
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| # ? Oct 23, 2011 03:20 |
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