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Nucular Carmul posted:Have you read all the Oz books (i think there were seven)? I read them a long rear end time ago and am not clear on the details but I vaguely remember some pretty Sorry to nitpick, but you have not described the movie Tron. What you have described is the surprise sex of its disinterred corpse.
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Murphys Law posted:Star Trek II , when they are trying to contact Regula 1 and getting no response, Spock says "There are two possibilities. They are unable to respond. They are unwilling to respond." I also love right after the first battle with Khan, Spock goes to a computer screen that's blinking red with Kirk, and points out all the red silently. I think the red does its own job of bring attention to itself, Spock. Afterwards, he does say "They knew exactly where to hit us." I get this line. I just love Spock silently walking up and pointing at the red lights. MichiganCubbie fucked around with this message at Sep 13, 2011 around 16:52 |
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I was gonna write one on Rio but realized it's just an all around horrible movie so decided to post my husband's irrational irritation moment from a cartoon. Despicable Me was awfully cute. But at the point that the main character is carrying the moon around in his jacket, my husband is like, "Well that's not very realistic, the moon's size changed, but not its mass." I thought he was being too nitpicky for a children's movie from a children's book. They bought parts for a rocket from the change in a couch, goddamnit. A few months later, his parents came to visit and Despicable Me was on HBO on demand and his mother hadn't seen it yet. So we're watching it, and at the end I mentioned my husband's issue with the movie, kind of making fun of him for, and my father-in-law said, "Yeah, that bothered me, too". Fuckin' nerds Edit: I do the same poo poo with anything animal or medical related that I watch. It annoys the hell out of my husband.
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MichiganCubbie posted:I also love right after the first battle with Khan, Spock goes to a computer screen that's blinking red with Kirk, and points out all the red silently. I think the red does its own job of bring attention to itself, Spock. Hahahaa. It's just as well he died and had to be reincarnated. Old Spock apparently outlived his usefulness.
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Stoatbringer posted:Yeah, Nero's motives make no sense at all. Instead of saying "Well, thanks for at least trying, Spock." he went straight to "It was entirely YOUR fault and I will hunt you through space and time and kill countless thousands for my revenge on you, personally! And then I'll let you go and dump you in a cave from which you can see Vulcan, somehow." The problem with Star Trek is that basically all of Nero's backstory (including why he personally blamed Spock) was cut out of the movie and only given in a prequel comic book.
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BexGu posted:Just assume that like a human brain the Avatar bodies have the automatic lower brain stem functions that do not need cognitive functions to keep going. Only the high level functions are stopped in the link, the lower level automatic functions of the brain still keep going. No need to assume - when Sully first sees his avatar in the tube, it looks like it's coping just fine, albeit unconscious.
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Nucular Carmul posted:Have you read all the Oz books (i think there were seven)? I read them a long rear end time ago and am not clear on the details but I vaguely remember some pretty I've read "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz", "Ozma of Oz", and "Tik-Tok of Oz". The creepy poo poo I do remember: -Ozma was turned into a little boy by a witch named Mombi, lived her whole life as a boy, went through puberty as a boy, and then suddenly, "welp, you're actually queen and need to rule Oz now, have some tits, a vagina, oh and periods, enjoy". -A princess who cut off people's heads so that she could wear them, who wanted to cut off Dorothy's head so she could wear it. -A princess who grew from a rosebush who got kicked out of her rosebush kingdom, took one look at a soldier, fell immediately in love with him, and started sleeping with him in his bedroll from that night on (pretty risqué for being written sometime in the 1920's). I don't know how it worked because she was literally a human person plucked off of a rosebush. -A desert that surrounds Oz entirely, where if you take one step on the sand, it desiccates you and you turn into dust. -The Wheelers, a bunch of dudes on all fours who have wheels instead of hands and feet, and the wheels are covered in a hard shell made of fingernails. They wheel after you so they can eat you. -The Ugly One, a dude SO UGLY that he's forced to wear a bag over his face for seriously most of the book. -Tititi-Hoochoo, a great magician who rules a country. He lacks any comprehension of mercy, and only understands justice. Because the Nome King tricked a group of people into going into Tititi-Hoochoo's land, he sends them back with a GIGANTIC FUCKOFF DRAGON who carries a locket full of magic, dancing eggs, which are a combination of horrible wasting poison and slow-acting acid to the Nomes. Just because the Nome King sent some dudes into his land. That's all I can remember for now, but there was some wicked poo poo in there, mostly related to food. In the Land of Ev in "Ozma of Oz" they had lunch-box trees, that had paper napkins for leaves, and they grew paper lunch boxes as fruit ("Inside each box, growing on a separate stem and wrapped in white paper, a ham sandwich, a piece of sponge-cake, a pickle, a slice of new cheese, and an apple"). There were also tin dinner pail trees ("Inside each Dinner Pail grows a small tank full of lemonade, slices of turkey and cold tongue, lobster salad, bread and butter, a small custard pie, an orange, some strawberries, cracked nuts, and raisins.") In "Tik-Tok of Oz", in the Nome King's Metal Forest, they had Hotel Trees that grew Three-Course Nuts "which are something like coconuts to look at. Unscrewing the top of the nut reveals a cupfull of good soup. The middle part contains a hollow filled with meat and potatoes, vegetables, and a fine salad. The last section contains pie and cake, cheese and crackers, and nuts and raisins. The Three-Course Nuts are not all alike in flavor or contents, but they all are good. Breakfast Trees are another variation of Hotel Trees. They contain coffee or chocolate instead of soup, oatmeal instead of meat and potatoes, and fruit instead of dessert." I always thought those were loving awesome sounding. gently caress ever cooking anymore, you just reach out your window and pick off a Lunch Box or a Breakfast Nut. Squalitude posted:I caught a little bit of a show called "The Witches of Oz" the other week. It was really quiet horrendous. Y'all should watch it so I can read your complaints about it, because I really don't want to do it myself! What channel is it on? I'm in California, but I do have Hulu and Netflix Instant.
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Is Cracked.com reading this thread? http://www.cracked.com/article_1943...to-editing.html
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OdorousTobacco posted:Is Cracked.com reading this thread? Ahahaha, I just came to post this. Very first one is the Joker being left in the room full of partygoers.
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Yeah, they do that a lot. It's not worth getting up in arms over, unless they do something like plagiarize someone's 'shop.
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Johnny Digital posted:No need to assume - when Sully first sees his avatar in the tube, it looks like it's coping just fine, albeit unconscious. I assume that tube was some sort of artificial womb when they said they were "grown" and that it was connected via a type of umbilical cord.
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zVxTeflon posted:I assume that tube was some sort of artificial womb when they said they were "grown" and that it was connected via a type of umbilical cord. The umbilical cord only provided nutrition, though, their brain was presumably just as blank as any time later when their operators weren't online.
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Lolitas Alright! posted:If you have Netflix, it's (Don't Be A Menace To Society While Drinking Juice In The Hood) available on Netflix Instant. We watched it on my 360 two nights ago. This happens in a ton of movies, and it always takes me out of MY IMMERSION , but it bothers me so loving much whenever it happens.I was flipping through channels and saw that 40 Year Old Virgin was on the other night, and it got to the part where Steve Carrell takes a short cut on his bike and doesn't stop and t-bones the front of her car and he goes flying in the air and through a mobile billboard truck and lands in the street looking like a broken husk of a man. What bothers me so much about this is that the driver of that billboard truck never gets out and just goes "What the gently caress did you do? My god! I need to call my company about this and get insurance involved and your hurt!" and all other kinds of bullshit. The truck just sits there with its hazard lights on in the middle of traffic and nothing ever comes of it. Whenever something happens to an innocent bystander or other type of "extra", I always start wondering why nothing is ever done about repaying or fixing what was just hosed up. That poo poo would be addressed in an instant in the real world, why the hell must they leave me wondering about the poor gently caress whose car you just sideswiped while chasing down those bank robbers? poo poo like that enrages me to the point where I get all huffy and pissy and can't enjoy the rest of the movie. Maybe I have an anger problem... Turk February fucked around with this message at Sep 13, 2011 around 22:26 |
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Turk February posted:I was flipping through channels and saw that 40 Year Old Virgin was on the other night Similarly, there's a part in Knocked Up that always bothered me. Early in the movie, Seth Rogen's character mentions to Katherine Heigl's character that he's an illegal Canadian immigrant. Cut to later in the movie when he's getting his poo poo together, including a nice job as a web designer or some poo poo. Maybe I just don't know that much about this stuff, but wouldn't they ask to see his green card or something?
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Coffee And Pie posted:Similarly, there's a part in Knocked Up that always bothered me. Early in the movie, Seth Rogen's character mentions to Katherine Heigl's character that he's an illegal Canadian immigrant. Cut to later in the movie when he's getting his poo poo together, including a nice job as a web designer or some poo poo. Maybe I just don't know that much about this stuff, but wouldn't they ask to see his green card or something? I always just assumed he was a good enough web designer that the company he got hired at went ahead and got him a work visa...though I think that takes any months, like, more months than were left in the pregnancy, but whatever not really a critical plot point.
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Turk February posted:Whenever something happens to an innocent bystander or other type of "extra", I always start wondering why nothing is ever done about repaying or fixing what was just hosed up. That poo poo would be addressed in an instant in the real world, why the hell must they leave me wondering about the poor gently caress whose car you just sideswiped while chasing down those bank robbers? Check out the opening scene to the movie Narc, it addresses this issue imo. spoiler if you don't want to track it down on youtube: Edit: I didn't know what the gently caress I was talking about, I just re-watched it and it has the same problem you are talking about. Whoops! Still a good movie, though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWJ1IfpenII areyoucontagious fucked around with this message at Sep 13, 2011 around 22:52 |
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Judd Apatow movies are pretty lazy about that kind of stuff. I don't really fault them for it because the Apatow crew mission is to gently caress around in front of a camera for as long as people are willing to pay to watch the end result, so good on them, but they're not particularly great cinema. If anything, they make for an interesting record of a generation.
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Fast Five is like that. The main crew must have murdered 100s of innocent people during the finale chase, it's fine though because everyone in Brazil is apparently trash and/or druglords.
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As long as we're occasionally discussing the Na'vi from Cameron's Avatar, can I ask you guys a question about it? I don't have a problem with what it gives me, but my best friend (also a goon) is the one who pitches a fit. Apparently, he has a problem believing that the Na'vi skeleton is reinforced with, I quote, "naturally-occurring carbon fibers. They are very hard to kill." Now, I can accept this, as they're eight goddamn feet tall and who knows what they're made of, it might not even be Deoxyribonucleic Acid, could be Dextro-proteins like half the aliens from Mass Effect for all we know. Can anyone help me explain the carbon fibers to him?
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areyoucontagious posted:Check out the opening scene to the movie Narc, it addresses this issue imo. spoiler if you don't want to track it down on youtube Maybe you were thinking of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. :D edit: \/ okay bad joke sorry. Cubone fucked around with this message at Sep 13, 2011 around 23:50 |
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Cubone posted:Maybe you were thinking of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I was not, but that is an excellent point! Although it's too bad that it isn't an action film...
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Malachite_Dragon posted:As long as we're occasionally discussing the Na'vi from Cameron's Avatar, can I ask you guys a question about it? I don't have a problem with what it gives me, but my best friend (also a goon) is the one who pitches a fit. Apparently, he has a problem believing that the Na'vi skeleton is reinforced with, I quote, "naturally-occurring carbon fibers. They are very hard to kill." Now, I can accept this, as they're eight goddamn feet tall and who knows what they're made of, it might not even be Deoxyribonucleic Acid, could be Dextro-proteins like half the aliens from Mass Effect for all we know. Can anyone help me explain the carbon fibers to him? The Na'vi are total bullshit. They don't even need carbon fiber, living on a low gravity moon is justification for greater height on its own. However, they clearly don't have enough muscle mass to be as strong as they're depicted, and how hard your bones are have nothing to do with how strong you are. Now, humans, on the other hand, should have gotten out of the stupid suits, thrown their guns down, and been running around ripping Na'vi up like crazed chimps on the Moon. Smaller size, greater proportional muscle mass and leverage, and greater strength from a higher gravity world should all make a human as dangerous to the gangly, long-limbed low-gravity Na'vi as a chimp is to a human. The other poo poo, like the giant beasties and the monstrous cat things, sure, they could gently caress a person up, but a bigger skinnier cat person from a low gravity world should be no problem for a buff motherfucker like Quaritch.
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Lolitas Alright! posted:I've read "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz", "Ozma of Oz", and "Tik-Tok of Oz". The creepy poo poo I do remember: You do realize they made a nightmare fuel movie out of a lot of that, right? It's called Return to Oz. Dorthy gets back to OZ, I kid you not, because she is forced to undergo electroshock therapy because she won't shut up about her adventures in the first movie. The wheelers from that film haunted me as a kid. Now they just make me think they should do more practical effects in movies these days. And the lunch pail trees are just so awesome. To contribute: Someone was mentioning Disney movies before. In The Lion King, when Scar takes over the pride, the land goes to poo poo. Why? It's half handwaved that they upset the ecology by over-hunting, but that would only explain why there's no prey species. What the hell happened to the grass and the trees? Also, know what really happens when a new male takes over a pride? He kills all the cubs to bring the females into heat. So to be part of the "Circle of life", Simba rightly should slaughter all immature lions in the pride at the end of the movie.
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Ambiguatron posted:However, they clearly don't have enough muscle mass to be as strong as they're depicted, You don't know that. How do we know they muscles are the same as ours? They might have twice as much actin and myosin per ounce of muscle, so therefore they're stronger with less mass. Or, probably more likely, they don't actually use actin and myosin in their muscle fibers, but some other proteins that can provide a greater strength to weight ratio.
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^^^^^ Which supports my acceptance of them having carbon fiber in their bones- The Na'vi are loving ALIENS, what the gently caress do we know about what they're composed of or what their body chemistry is? What composes our muscles could be the exact opposite of what makes up theirs! It's completely retarded to assume that just because something doesn't work for humans means it wouldn't work for a species, that, y'know, evolved on an entirely different planet under entirely different circumstances.Domus posted:To contribute: It's a symbolism thing, I think. Without a worthy king leading the pride, the land withers and decays. as for Simba offing the smaller lions, I don't think they ever showed any immature ones. I haven't seen it in about ten years, I always took it to mean that Scar might have been king, but he couldn't seduce his way out of a paper bag, nevermind actually get it on with any of the other lionesses, so he didnt have any cubs to off. Malachite_Dragon fucked around with this message at Sep 14, 2011 around 02:11 |
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Domus posted:To contribute: Remember how when the dodo went extinct they had to hustle to find a way to expose tambalacoque seeds to similar conditions to prevent losing two species? It's probably a bigger version of that. Water buffalo, antelope, and other herd animals are probably providing plant species with things like pollination, fertilization, keeping certain species from overrunning areas by eating them, etc. It's pretty hard to take a half dozen species out of an ecosystem and not see major repercussions.
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Mu Zeta posted:Fast Five is like that. The main crew must have murdered 100s of innocent people during the finale chase, it's fine though because everyone in Brazil is apparently trash and/or druglords. I started laughing during the Wanted movie because of this. During that train fight, the protagonist and the anti-hero throw train cars full of people off a mountain to their deaths for no reason other than to make poo poo look as epic as possible.
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muscles like this? posted:The problem with Star Trek is that basically all of Nero's backstory (including why he personally blamed Spock) was cut out of the movie and only given in a prequel comic book. The problem with Star Trek was that it was an action movie. To explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilisations, that is what Star Trek is about, not epic battles and blowing up planets. :-|
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DrBouvenstein posted:You don't know that. How do we know they muscles are the same as ours? They might have twice as much actin and myosin per ounce of muscle, so therefore they're stronger with less mass. Or, probably more likely, they don't actually use actin and myosin in their muscle fibers, but some other proteins that can provide a greater strength to weight ratio. It's science fiction, it's supposed to be explained. I mean, one throwaway line from an otherwise fairly meticulously researched movie would do it. Besides, that's just one thing and my point about human being crazed murder chimps on Pandora still stands.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:^^^^^ Which supports my acceptance of them having carbon fiber in their bones- The Na'vi are loving ALIENS, what the gently caress do we know about what they're composed of or what their body chemistry is? What composes our muscles could be the exact opposite of what makes up theirs! It's completely retarded to assume that just because something doesn't work for humans means it wouldn't work for a species, that, y'know, evolved on an entirely different planet under entirely different circumstances. Wait, that was actually in the movie? That's hilariously stupid. That's like saying you've discovered naturally occurring steel i-beams. Even assuming evolution and diet somehow equipped an organism with the ability to stack and cross-link carbon molecules, the process still requires complex heating profiles that exceed 400 degrees Fahrenheit. And once a fiber is created... that's it. It can't be lengthened or repaired, so your happy blue aliens' bones would need to constantly produce new fiber to replace what's lost to everyday stresses. Meaning that the Na'vi would be walking around with 400F metabolisms. Except that they wouldn't be walking, they'd be dessicated husks because water boils at 212F. Edit: Actually, since the gravity and atmospheric pressure of Stupidia is lower, water would boil at a lower temperature. Further loving the happy blue aliens. And I don't mean that in the same way the furries do. Twiggy Johnson fucked around with this message at Sep 14, 2011 around 04:29 |
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Bored posted:Despicable Me My irrational irritation with this movie was the Minions. They were cute and funny, sure, but the problem is that they didn't fit into the movie at all; Gru is a supervillain, his lair is all shark traps and death rays, and yet his minions are cute little yellow cyclops that speak in gibberish. They were really obviously a cute, marketable character that was pushed into the movie to make it easier to merchandise.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:^^^^^ Which supports my acceptance of them having carbon fiber in their bones- The Na'vi are loving ALIENS, what the gently caress do we know about what they're composed of or what their body chemistry is? What composes our muscles could be the exact opposite of what makes up theirs! It's completely retarded to assume that just because something doesn't work for humans means it wouldn't work for a species, that, y'know, evolved on an entirely different planet under entirely different circumstances. It really comes down to Disney cribbing Macbeth, but still needing a way for Simba to be an unambiguous Good Guy instead of a mentally disturbed adolescent. Thus, Scar's influence has a tangible real-world effect instead of just torturing Simba. The latter wouldn't work for little kids. vvvv e: I'll leave my shameful error, but you're right of course. I blame it on the tritip sandwiches I've been eating all day. Chard fucked around with this message at Sep 14, 2011 around 06:37 |
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Chard posted:It really comes down to Disney cribbing Macbeth, Hamlet?
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Mu Zeta posted:Fast Five is like that. The main crew must have murdered 100s of innocent people during the finale chase, it's fine though because everyone in Brazil is apparently trash and/or druglords. Jesus Christ, YES! I saw that movie on a date because she wanted to, and I could tell she was enjoying that exact portion while I was trying far too hard not to swallow my own face looking at the millions of dollars of property damage they were committing because of that giant gently caress-off safe. I don't even want to think of how much their insurance rates were going to raise.
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Turk February posted:Whenever something happens to an innocent bystander or other type of "extra", I always start wondering why nothing is ever done about repaying or fixing what was just hosed up. That poo poo would be addressed in an instant in the real world, why the hell must they leave me wondering about the poor gently caress whose car you just sideswiped while chasing down those bank robbers? You'd think the highway would be clear behind the big car chase, but no. They swerve through traffic and knock cars around, then everything behind them is fine. Traffic still moves at a perfectly normal pace just behind them and traveling at the same speed across all lanes, not at all affected by the fact that A) two or more cars just ran straight through them and knocked poo poo all over the place, and B) these drivers are watching them cause all sorts of damage just ahead and are unfazed by this. I seem to remember Bad Boys 2 and I, Robot being particularly egregious, and now I notice it in everything. Some of the Bourne movies should result in complete downtown gridlock. Speed is one of the few that actually addresses clearing the highway.
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Twiggy Johnson posted:Wait, that was actually in the movie? That's hilariously stupid. That's like saying you've discovered naturally occurring steel i-beams. Even assuming evolution and diet somehow equipped an organism with the ability to stack and cross-link carbon molecules, the process still requires complex heating profiles that exceed 400 degrees Fahrenheit. And once a fiber is created... that's it. It can't be lengthened or repaired, so your happy blue aliens' bones would need to constantly produce new fiber to replace what's lost to everyday stresses. Meaning that the Na'vi would be walking around with 400F metabolisms. Except that they wouldn't be walking, they'd be dessicated husks because water boils at 212F. That's what bothered you? What bothered me is that there is no free will on Gaia, wait I mean Pandora. Stick with me now, this gets a little tricky. Ok, so tentacle hair thing - it can plug in and basically give you a biological LAN connection to whatever it is you want. Every living thing has these pretty much, and smarter creatures can use them to control dumber ones. The trees all talk to each other, and a certain kind of tree houses the actual memories and personalities of the Na'vi. So what you're telling me is, the whole drat biomass of the planet is a network. A network where you can plug in and get your latest updated brain software from MicroTree brain update. Proof? Sure. Remember when all the animals come to gently caress poo poo up at the end, saving the day? Its because the planet decided that 'nope the humans have to go' so when the animals got their latest update it was "go gently caress up some humans" instead of "eat some spacegrass." So when Jake Sully first connected to something, he was gone. What was there instead was the Eywa or whatever its name was brain virus. Also none of the Na'vi have free will because they keep checking the tree software and its all "don't develop industry, instead act like debug software." The identity questions raised by Avatar are actually kind of terrifying.
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Murphys Law posted:Star Trek II , when they are trying to contact Regula 1 and getting no response, Spock says "There are two possibilities. They are unable to respond. They are unwilling to respond." It's obvious to you since you already know that Khan has hijacked the Reliant. But if you were Kirk, "our fellow Federation starship isn't responding because it's been taken over by bad guys" probably wouldn't be a conclusion you'd casually jump to.
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DocFrance posted:It's obvious to you since you already know that Khan has hijacked the Reliant. But if you were Kirk, "our fellow Federation starship isn't responding because it's been taken over by bad guys" probably wouldn't be a conclusion you'd casually jump to. Uh, no, it's obvious because it's a truism. If someone isn't responding it's either because they can't or they won't. There are no other options.
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Tiggum posted:Uh, no, it's obvious because it's a truism. If someone isn't responding it's either because they can't or they won't. There are no other options. I agree with you, but, like any arbitrary dichotomy, the intention was probably rhetorical. Spock was just saying, "We should consider the possibility that we're in the poo poo right now."
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Bonk posted:On a similar note, watch pretty much any chase scene in anything. The cars are apparently driven by automatons.
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