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Robzor McFabulous posted:Toy Story - If Buzz believes he is a real Space Ranger or whatever, why does he act like a toy like the others when Andy comes in? Honestly it's never explained why ANY of the toys have to play inanimate at all. It's not like they signed a contract or their souls will get sucked away or something if they do. I mean Woody reveals himself to be alive to Sid and nothing really comes of it. RagnarokAngel has a new favorite as of 13:09 on Sep 8, 2011 |
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In It For The Tank posted:Nothing pisses me off more than in Horror films where the victims have the opportunity to kill their pursuer/stalker/future-murderer and just don't do it. Oh my god, this. I can't STAND the SAW movies, because this happens so many times in the first one. The worst case : The Doctor played by Carey Elwes (Wesley from Princess Bride) has kind of escaped, but the killer has made it to Wesley's house, and is threatening his wife. However, the wife has a GUN trained on the killer, and she managed to get Wesley on the phone. What does she say? "Please, honey, come help, we need you! No, don't come closer, stop! Honey, please help us!" OF course, the killer threateningly advances, manages to take the gun away and the phone call ends abruptly with the wife screaming, and Wesley screaming into the phone. How SHOULD it have gone? BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM "Honey, I don't know where you are, but we're fine. Some crazy guy just threatened my daughter and I, so I put 4 holes in him. He's dead. Are you okay?" I hate movies that do that. Why, as a writer, would you put a character in a situation where they CAN protect themselves, but then have them act stupid? Is the point of such situations to show us that people are so stupid they deserve to die? I've come to the conclusion that most horror or thriller movies would be stopped in Act 1 by the inclusion of a Dog, a Gun, or a working Phone.
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Derringer posted:I just watched this movie and I am pretty sure the entire thing has irritated me. I actually enjoyed this one because it wasn't making a point. Something happened that was beyond the scope of the remaining people to explain, and it was scary, and none of it was explained and I rather liked that. Sort of like a lot of the better X-Files episodes. The only part in it I didn't like was Hayden Christiansen's character's death was stupid, he had worked so hard to survive that I can't see him taking those risks for a kid who was basically being an idiot. Though I don't think it's irrational, The Ninth Gate always drove me nuts because it had so much potential to be better than it was. You have Johnny Depp playing a shady used bookseller, looking for a book WRITTEN BY SATAN, and a pretty decent international mystery. You get all excited for an awesome ending and then it all kind of falls apart.
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Anytime there is a stand-off between two people, and they don't shoot each other. I mean...you spent the last five minutes shooting at each other, then you somehow both end up with your gun in the other person's face, and...you don't shoot...why? Well, the other guy also has his gun in your face, so...umm...nope, doesn't make sense. Unless the other guy is The Flash, he's not going to have the reflexes to shoot you. Yet it happens in a lot of movies and TV. An issue related to this is when someone has a hostage and is pointing a gun at them, sometimes dozens of police officers are around with e clear shot, yet the Action Hero has to talk the villain down...yeah, I'll admit I'm not 100% up to date on police procedure, but I'm pretty sure that guy would get shot pretty darn quick. And lastly, a sort of combo of the two, I've seen movies and TV where the villain doesn't even have the typical hostage, he's just holding his gun out at arm's length at one or more police officers, yet they still don't shoot him. Sorry, no, the instant a cop sees anything resembling a gun pointed in anything resembling their direction, you get a whole clip of bullets in you.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Honestly it's never explained why ANY of the toys have to play inanimate at all. It's not like they signed a contract or their souls will get sucked away or something if they do. I mean Woody reveals himself to be alive to Sid and nothing really comes of it. Well, yeah. That reinforces my point, really. Since nothing bad happens to them if they don't play inanimate, why does Buzz do it despite the fact that he's unaware that he's a toy in the first place?
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Pagan posted:Oh my god, this. I can't STAND the SAW movies, because this happens so many times in the first one. That's not even the dumbest example in that film. Zepp, who is the guy threatening the Doctor's family, but not the killer has been blackmailed into helping Jigsaw by being poisoned, and Jigsaw will only give him the antidote if he does what he's told. Now that works just fine if your victim is locked in a room, but not if he's free to wander around town, and especially if he works in a freaking hospital as Zepp does. How many slow-acting poisons can there be that leave you fit enough to wander around for a few days and have an antidote? Not many, and none that a hospital's poison control centre wouldn't have the antidote in stock for. If he's got a few days to live, that's plenty of time for the hospital to do some tests and administer the correct antidote. He works in a hospital. He knows this. So Zepp could just go to the place where he works and say "hey doc, some psycho has poisoned me, can you check me out?", but instead he acts as Jigsw's muscle as Jigsaw is too frail to beat people up and wave guns in their faces, commits a string of horrible crimes against his will and eventually gets killed. He knows where Jisaw is, he could go to the hospital, get cured, then free Adam and Dr. Gordon, not to mention fill Jigsaw with lead or hand him in. The entire plot (and subsequent six even dumber sequels) rely on this character being the most stupid man in the universe. Not to mention that Dr. Gordon figures out that removing his shirt and using it as a sort of lassoo will enable him to reach the gun in the middle of the floor. However, a few minutes later, when he has to reach a phone that's just out of reach in the same way, a phone that would save everyone and end the movie pretty mch there and then, he somehow forgets this, freaks out, and decides to saw off his foot instead. The whole film, once again, relies on a character being too "scared" to do something they wouldn't think twice about. It's lazy scriptwriting and spoils what is otherwise a decent horror/thriller.
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Similar to all those awful "JUST SHOOT HIM!!!" moments, here's one that always bugs me: It's the climax. The villain has the hero/hero's girlfriend at gunpoint, and he's delaying, delaying, delaying...but what's this? Something from off-screen is coming to kill the villain! The villain turns and sees it coming. His eyes widen as he realizes these are his final moments, and that the hero has beaten him. So he...drops his gun and screams for a full five seconds before whatever it was finishes him off? You'd think most villains would be nasty enough to at least fire off a couple rounds out of spite. Most of the time they're less than five feet from their hostage!
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Robzor McFabulous posted:Toy Story - If Buzz believes he is a real Space Ranger or whatever, why does he act like a toy like the others when Andy comes in? More concerning to me is that Woody is a half-century old and has been passed down through Andy's family for generations, yet he doesn't seem to have any memory of his life before Andy; He has no idea about Woody's Round-Up or any of the other toys from the show, and he doesn't show any knowledge of being owned by Andy's mom. It's almost as if the toys lose their memory every time they get a new owner. porkfriedrice posted:Why do I see so many movies (and TV for that matter) that have the sound of squealing tires when the vehicle is on a dirt road? I guess I can't give any example off the top of my head, but I seem to notice it a lot. Moviemakers love squealing tires. Audio design is a hugely important part of film-making. Even though it's not accurate to real-life, squealing tires (and clicking guns, squeaking rats, etc) give the object a "presence". It's like how they mix milk or ink with fake rain to make it stand out more on film, movies have to present things differently.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Anytime there is a stand-off between two people, and they don't shoot each other. I had a professor talk about this in school. I think the fear is that they will have a muscle spasm or jolt as they are shot and pull the trigger themselves, so you both end up dead/wounded. I mean, you don't just go limp and fall to the floor. It makes sense, and if you've ever fired a gun, you know how easy gun triggers are actually pulled.
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Axeman Jim posted:That's not even the dumbest example in that film. Zepp, who is the guy threatening the Doctor's family, but not the killer has been blackmailed into helping Jigsaw by being poisoned, and Jigsaw will only give him the antidote if he does what he's told. Now that works just fine if your victim is locked in a room, but not if he's free to wander around town, and especially if he works in a freaking hospital as Zepp does. How many slow-acting poisons can there be that leave you fit enough to wander around for a few days and have an antidote? Not many, and none that a hospital's poison control centre wouldn't have the antidote in stock for. If he's got a few days to live, that's plenty of time for the hospital to do some tests and administer the correct antidote. He works in a hospital. He knows this.
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That voyager episode were Tuvok's brainwashing from the Marquis activates and he ends up brainwashing all the Marquis members. Then he ends up in the brig before he can activate them in turn. In the brig they leave his comm badge with him (even though when Paris goes into the brig a season earlier they take his away) and then whilst Janeway is questioning him he sends a message to Chakotay. janeway instead of immediately ordering Chakotay contained until they can work out what the message did, spends 5 minutes questioning Tuvok "what did you just tell Chakotay to do" as Chakotay wanders around the ship activating all the other Brainwashed members (The doctor, even though he says his readings are off the charts, just lets him wander around and do this as well) Janeways meant to be a Smart Captain, but she seems to forget all protocol this episode to make the story work (Even protocol she has demonstrated in previous episodes) its lazy story telling.
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There are many, many things wrong with remake of "The Wicker Man". But the one thing that really annoyed me, is when Nicholas Cage's character wakes up after being stung by bees and passing out, he checks the clip in his gun, and it seems to be ok, since he doesn't react to it. Later, when he's fighting the evil cult members, he tries to shoot them, but his gun is empty, and they even do the "mockingly show him the bullets" thing. When did they steal the bullets, if he had them when he woke up, and has his gun with him for the rest of the movie? That remake is awful, and I actually like Cage... OldMemes has a new favorite as of 17:55 on Sep 8, 2011 |
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That reminds me of another stupid thing... Guards or police rarely call for backup, or use their radio to report suspicious things. Even elite bad-rear end guards, who've got hands free setups, just rush in and get killed, leaving their buddies in the dark. It seems the only time radios ever get used is by major characters as a plot device (the end of the Samuel L Jackson movie, "The Negotiator") or to show that the radios just aren't working at all. A great recent example is from True Blood. The Vampires learn that a necromancer is going to cast a spell that will make them walk into the daylight and die. Bill and Jessica hide out in Bill's huge mansion. They lock themselves in a prison cage made of silver, and then drape themselves in silver chains. The mansion is also guarded by humans. The spell starts, and Jessica manages to break the silver chains. She's still stuck inside the locked cell, however. A guard sees her out of her bed, and just runs up to tell her to lay back down. He doesn't report this, despite being completely hooked into a radio system. Jessica kills him and unlocks the cage. Another guard sees the dead guard and goes to investigate. Jessica manages to glamour the new guard into calling the other guards away from their posts, using the radio. You'd think these guards would know, better than most humans, how dangerous vampires really are. They'd know better than to approach a vamp, and they'd certainly know, on the day of the spell, to call in any suspicious behavior first, before going in to investigate. Guards also never seem to use a buddy system or work in pairs.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Honestly it's never explained why ANY of the toys have to play inanimate at all. It's not like they signed a contract or their souls will get sucked away or something if they do. I mean Woody reveals himself to be alive to Sid and nothing really comes of it. The way I like to think about it is that they are in a caregiver environment. Andy cares for them, gives them a warm room to stay in, makes them feel important by talking to them/playing, and protects them from harm. All they have to do is just keep being toys and this will go on until Andy grows up. They don't come alive cause Andy would probably get pretty bugged out and never want them around again. Either that or he'd be super psyched.
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casual poster posted:The way I like to think about it is that they are in a caregiver environment. Andy cares for them, gives them a warm room to stay in, makes them feel important by talking to them/playing, and protects them from harm. All they have to do is just keep being toys and this will go on until Andy grows up. They don't come alive cause Andy would probably get pretty bugged out and never want them around again. This is one of the things that I am willing to accept, as a viewer. It doesn't necessarily need to be explained. It just is the way it is : toys are alive, but they have to hide it except in extreme circumstances. It's such a major plot point that none of the movies could happen without it.
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The Irrationally Irritating Movie Moment Disney Edition Having 3 kids means watching Disney films a lot. My gripes: - The Little Mermaid She speaks English, writes in English (she signs her name IN ENGLISH on the contract with Ursela) so obviously she has the ability to write. "Dear Eric, Hi. My name is Ariel and I was the one who saved you from the ship wreck and sang that beautiful song to you on the beach as you lay in a near dead state. The chill in the water has caused me to lose my voice, but it should be back very soon. Let's kiss!" - Sleeping Beauty The fairies raised 'Aurora' for 16 freaking years. You are telling me that for her 16th birthday party they can't sew, or cook? Really? How did the poor child eat, have clothes, thrive, etc, for 16 years? - Aladdin Aladdin was a healthy, strong, athletic, able bodied young man with some pretty neat talents acrobatically. See, Al, those poor people on the streets are WORKING for their living. You steal. You steal from poor merchants to live when you could do probably almost anything to make money. You go create an act. You have a very smart monkey, people like monkeys. Seriously, get a job and stop stealing from the poor working men and women that do something with their lives. [Sits in secret hideout staring at palace and wishing he was rich so he could be even lazier. "Ok, Abu, time to eat, let's go steal some crap and then come back up here and dream about being rich for the rest of the afternoon!"]
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casual poster posted:The way I like to think about it is that they are in a caregiver environment. Andy cares for them, gives them a warm room to stay in, makes them feel important by talking to them/playing, and protects them from harm. All they have to do is just keep being toys and this will go on until Andy grows up. They don't come alive cause Andy would probably get pretty bugged out and never want them around again. And besides that- what happens if someone figures out toys are alive? Science. Dissections. No one is going to believe one little kid saying his toys are alive, but if enough people knew, they'd be disassembled to figure out how they worked. In Doom one of the characters is playing a video game right near the start. Only it's a 2-player game: he's holding it sideways and playing both sides. This could be deliberate, but I doubt it. Almost all the 'disney princesses' are about 16. Yeah. Ew. Mulan (this supposedly badass chick who has won the favour of the emperor) gets home and is sad because she _still needs a husband to make her life complete_. What kind of a message is that to send to your target audience (of little girls)?
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Catch That Kid I'm still not entirely sure why I watched this movie. Actually I don't even remember how much of it I saw. My roommate in my dorm 7 years ago and I were up late and flipping through the channels and that movie was on the university's movie channel for some reason. We paused on it and ended up basically MST3K'ing the rest of the film with eachother. The movie sucked, but there was this one little tiny thing that bugged the crap out of me for some reason. Toward the end of the movie, they're escaping on go-karts that were rigged with nitrous. Fine. My issue was that they were steering with X-Box controllers and when he goes to hit the nitrous, he hits the jewel logo on the controller. That's not a button. There are 6 other buttons he could have hit, but the thing they chose him to press it not a button. I still don't know why this bothered me so much, but it did.
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rockcity posted:Catch That Kid What do you mean it's not a button? Just because it brings up the guide? If they're making steering wheels out of controllers, there's no reason they could map nitro to the guide button, or is there (sorry if I'm misunderstanding, I never saw this movie)? Edit: it's occurring to me that they were not 360 controllers, but first gen Xbox controllers. My bad! Livingston has a new favorite as of 20:04 on Sep 8, 2011 |
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Livingston posted:What do you mean it's not a button? Just because it brings up the guide? If they're making steering wheels out of controllers, there's no reason they could map nitro to the guide button, or is there (sorry if I'm misunderstanding, I never saw this movie)? Haven't seen the movie, but assume he means the original XBox, where that wasn't a button.
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They made it a point to not use magic because it'd give away everything. It hasn't mattered before, because Maleficent doesn't need the girl until her 16th birthday. Now that she's finally 16, though, they have to take extra care not to use magic. ZenMaster posted:- Aladdin India had a strict caste system, Aladdin was on the lowest rung possible. He was literally not worthy enough to sell things, the best he'd do is live life as a servant to an abusive master. Then again, it being a Disney movie, that's kind of moot.
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Farbtoner posted:More concerning to me is that Woody is a half-century old and has been passed down through Andy's family for generations, yet he doesn't seem to have any memory of his life before Andy; He has no idea about Woody's Round-Up or any of the other toys from the show, and he doesn't show any knowledge of being owned by Andy's mom. It's almost as if the toys lose their memory every time they get a new owner. FrancisYorkPatty posted:India had a strict caste system, Aladdin was on the lowest rung possible. He was literally not worthy enough to sell things, the best he'd do is live life as a servant to an abusive master. Then again, it being a Disney movie, that's kind of moot.
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Away all Goats posted:Wow, really? Is this from the second film? I never saw it. Suddenly it makes the ending of the third movie a lot sadder though. God drat I'm an idiot. 
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Z-Magic posted:In the new Star Trek where the hell did Nero get his ship from? He was on a mining mission yet his ship has enough weaponry to take down the entire starfleet fleet (minus the enterprise). Why does a mining ship have to be so well armed? Obviously he reversed the polarity on the dilithium reaction vessel and rerouted power from the engines to the mining photon phasers. Do you know nothing about science?
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I know we've beaten Independence Day to death, but I'm gonna beat it some more  .So I've accepted the fact that -a single bouncer was all that came between Will Smith and commandeering a gunship, and -fighter pilots are the same as helo pilots, and -the virus they uploaded was 1)Magical, possibly elven in nature and 2)Doesn't give a gently caress about language compatibility or, I dunno, that the aliens might not even be using binary. ...and then we come to the grand finale. The magical virus has done its work, and the shields are down. In a brave air battle, our crazy farmer war-vet guy smashed his F-14 into the core and caused a chain reaction, destroying the massive ship in the process. So, the shields on the discus ships worldwide are on the fritz. The general pipes on the line, "...Tell them how to bring these sons'a'bitches down"  . So how would that memo read, exactly? "You're going to have to ram your asses into that core as soon as they fire, and hope to hell you get the timing exactly right or you're all dead. Best of luck, yo." No, the solution every military commander in the world would have had is as follows: "Nuke them now." Small yield nuclear weapons would have fit the bill just fine while the shields were down. Then to top it off, with a single, tiny little tactical nuke, Will Smith spectacularly blows up a ship the size of Texas. A nuke which, while devastating to a city, would probably not be enough to completely down the mothership. But this is a SUPER nuke, which not only had yeilds far beyond its size would indicate, but somehow missed the tiny, shieldless hijacked ship as it trundled away. Ah, right. It DID hit Will. It's just that the magical virus spared the ship's shields so they survived the nuclear shock wave. 
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Pagan posted:This is one of the things that I am willing to accept, as a viewer. It doesn't necessarily need to be explained. It just is the way it is : toys are alive, but they have to hide it except in extreme circumstances. It's such a major plot point that none of the movies could happen without it. This is totally fine, and something I never had a problem with. But my point still stands - Buzz really thinks he's a Space Ranger. The big point to the film was him coming to the realisation that, yes, he is in fact "just a toy". So if he started out not believing he was a toy, why would he follow these "toy rules"? Mauzeraut posted:-the virus they uploaded was 1)Magical, possibly elven in nature and 2)Doesn't give a gently caress about language compatibility or, I dunno, that the aliens might not even be using binary. There's a deleted scene that settled this one fairly well for me. It showed the scientists talking about how Earth's computer technology was reverse engineered from the advanced stuff in the alien ship they've studied over the years, which is why modern computers can interact with the alien tech. Robzor McFabulous has a new favorite as of 21:02 on Sep 8, 2011 |
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Robzor McFabulous posted:This is totally fine, and something I never had a problem with. But my point still stands - Buzz really thinks he's a Space Ranger. The big point to the film was him coming to the realisation that, yes, he is in fact "just a toy". So if he started out not believing he was a toy, why would he follow these "toy rules"? When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
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Mauzeraut posted:I know we've beaten Independence Day to death, but I'm gonna beat it some more I think the message would be to shoot the firing mechanism as soon as it is opened. The only reason Randy Quaid needed to commit a suicide run was because his missile was the last one and was stuck on the plane.
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Robzor McFabulous posted:There's a deleted scene that settled this one fairly well for me. It showed the scientists talking about how Earth's computer technology was reverse engineered from the advanced stuff in the alien ship they've studied over the years, which is why modern computers can interact with the alien tech. Ah, well, it all makes perfect sense in that case.
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Robzor McFabulous posted:There's a deleted scene that settled this one fairly well for me. It showed the scientists talking about how Earth's computer technology was reverse engineered from the advanced stuff in the alien ship they've studied over the years, which is why modern computers can interact with the alien tech. So they cut the one scene that would have kept them from looking like big idiots. Oh, Hollywood.
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Robzor McFabulous posted:This is totally fine, and something I never had a problem with. But my point still There's a deleted scene that settled this one fairly well for me. It showed the scientists talking about how Earth's computer technology was reverse engineered from the advanced stuff in the alien ship they've studied over the years, which is why modern computers can interact with the alien tech. I may be remembering wrong but wasn't there a scene when they first showed area 51 where they say they couldn't access any of the alien technology or make it work until the mothership came into orbit and activated everything?
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Also my mom only lets me spend five bucks a month to get my cool gaga avatars back so I guess I'm stuck with this one for a while.
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to post on the internet. The film was all about how these bohemian artists and LGBT dudes come together and learn to deal with the consequences of their lifestyles through love and friendship. At the end of the film, one character dies of Aids, a pretty well-handled scene that brings the film to a pleasant end.
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ZenMaster posted:The Irrationally Irritating Movie Moment Disney Edition I just bitched about exactly this the other day. Also what kind of father does she have that he allows his sixteen year old daughter to leave home forever and become a human to marry a man she has known for 3 loving days?
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Robzor McFabulous posted:This is totally fine, and something I never had a problem with. But my point still stands - Buzz really thinks he's a Space Ranger. The big point to the film was him coming to the realisation that, yes, he is in fact "just a toy". So if he started out not believing he was a toy, why would he follow these "toy rules"? Well, as he IS a toy, I just figured it came as naturally as blinking. Maybe he wasn't really cognizant of what he was doing or why. Kind of like when I sit down to pee cause I've just cleaned the bathroom and don't want to splatter, I have no intention of pooing, but my body just starts trying to do it. Have you ever had someone say to you "that's not a defect, it's feature"? This argument about Buzz can be distilled and called a 'defect' in the plot; but as someone else said, them turning into toys when people are around is a fundamental premise. I don't feel like I'm being an apologist for saying that that detail doesn't bother me.
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I assumed that he would stop whenever Andy comes in because he figures it's a good idea to hang low whenever a giant humanoid alien many, many times your size approaches. Just lie low until it goes away!
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I think I just saw The Christmas Toy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099263/) enough as a kid that I just assumed that if any toys were caught out of position they would be frozen forever.
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Sep 9, 2011 03:18
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Buzz going still every time Andy shows up in Toy Story actually makes some sense when you approach it as him thinking he's a stranded Space Ranger trying to fit in with aliens. All the other toys freeze whenever a human shows up. A stranded explorer might interpret in a similar way as if everyone in an island tribe bowed whenever the guy wearing the bird mask walked by. "Andy's coming! Everyone back to your places!" may have just been "All hail the chief!" to Buzz.ZenMaster posted:Sleeping Beauty It's been years, but iirc the little blue fairy's lines in that scene pretty much explain that the other two were trading jobs. The green one had always let someone else cook because she was poo poo at it and the red one never took care of the sewing. But since it was their last day with her they swapped because they always wanted to try the other job.
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Sep 9, 2011 05:36
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Well, to be fair, it really doesn't make any sense at all that Buzz (and subsequent Buzzes, like the one in Toy Story 2) believes he is actually Buzz Lightyear, and none of the other toys ever seem to have believed anything other than that they were actually toys. They don't have any kind of identity crisis confusing themselves with whatever character/brand they're based off of, either. Except maybe the whole Barbie/Ken thing, but I don't know if that really counts.' What makes Buzz toys think they're actually the real Buzz? If it happened twice, is this happening with every Buzz toy ever purchased and thousands of households across the country are having weird episodes like the one that makes up the plot of Toy Story 1? Is it unusual? It really only makes since if you consider it an isolated incident and kind of ignore Buzz Lightyear toys' tendencies to be somehow delusional about their origins. On the same note, I always kind of figured that Woody was only ever Andy's toy. Maybe it was a toy his mom had owned for a long time still in the box or something, and it was only opened for Andy. It's never really clear when a toy becomes 'conscious', since they're manufactured, anyway (the Stinky Pete thing would contradict this). The whole premise doesn't really stand up to scrutiny.
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ZenMaster posted:The Irrationally Irritating Movie Moment Disney Edition No dice. "But not just any kiss... the kiss of true love!" Not sure that would cover it.
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