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Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Krad posted:

I call shenanigans, Sony has no women characters.

Third parties. If Smash Bros and other "franchise" games can pull in third party bonus characters (Mortal Kombat 9, Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing) then whatever this is could as well.

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Troffen
Aug 17, 2010



MUFFlNS posted:

Might be the reporter from Heavy Rain but why stick her in a fighting game?!

So we can ogle her while she's assaulted by ninjas and serial murderers, of course. Does Sony have any ninja characters?

Krad
Feb 4, 2008

Touche


Policenaut posted:

Third parties. If Smash Bros and other "franchise" games can pull in third party bonus characters (Mortal Kombat 9, Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing) then whatever this is could as well.

If they add Catherine in there, they can have my money.

... but yeah it's probably Elena or Chloe.

Behonkiss
Feb 10, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!


One of those debug screens also appears to mention a Carmelita character (presumably from Sly Cooper).

I really hope this is real, and I really hope it's awesome. I've been dying for a Smash-styled game with good online for a long time, and maybe they'll even find ways to improve the formula, something I thought they pulled off with the actual racing in ModNation Racers.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


^^^ Yeah, I noticed Carmelita Fox in the debug. Was wondering why the rumor passed that over.

Troffen posted:

So we can ogle her while she's assaulted by ninjas and serial murderers, of course. Does Sony have any ninja characters?

I don't think Sony has any official first/second/whatever party ninja characters (aside from that new dude in Sly Cooper 4) but if we want to get into PlayStation exclusive third party franchises then they do.

Shinobido is Sony's exclusive ninja franchise made by From Software. There's even a brand new entry to the franchise coming next month: "Shinobido 2: Revenge of Zen", which is a launch game for the PlayStation Vita.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Fuck you Nintendo


Am I the only who remembers Legend of Dragoon? This could be Sony's chance to actually use that franchise again.

MUFFlNS
Mar 7, 2004



Policenaut posted:

I don't think Sony has any official first/second/whatever party ninja characters (aside from that new dude in Sly Cooper 4) but if we want to get into PlayStation exclusive third party franchises then they do.

Maybe Raiden from Metal Gear Solid?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004



TaurusOxford posted:

Am I the only who remembers Legend of Dragoon? This could be Sony's chance to actually use that franchise again.

Isn't that game a cult classic? I think its on PSN too.

Tamagod Sushi
Oct 26, 2009

I never metaphor I didn't like!

Don't forget Sackboy/sack people and the Modnation racer characters as well! This is hilarious because the rumor's true. Paul Gale, just who are you ?

Is Crash Bandicot still a Sony character? I'd also really like to see Sir Daniel Fortesque from Medievil, Wander, Ico and Fumiko (Heavenly Sword) represented as well. Most importantly it's got to be fun and I'd like it to be more than just a Smash Bros clone.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004



It would be insane if you could import your Sackboy costume DLC into this Sony fighting game.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


I said come in! posted:

Isn't that game a cult classic? I think its on PSN too.

Yeah, it's pretty much a cult classic in some sense. It's available on the PSN in Japan only though for some bizarre reason.

SamBishop
Jan 10, 2003



Tamagod Sushi posted:

Sir Daniel Fortesque from Medievil

Huh, interesting that you mention that. I'm glad to gear people still remember that series.

IXCE
Nov 27, 2007

It's time to take naps and eat yum yum...and I'm all outta yum.


I can't believe this is finally happening. I remember when Super Smash Bros. came out I immediately started drawing and writing move lists for Crash Bandicoot, Lara Croft, Spike (Ape Escape), and Sweet Tooth (in the ice cream truck).

Maybe I'm hoping for too much but maybe if they included lost and forgotten characters it could resurrect some of these franchises....I just really want another Parappa The Rapper game drat it.

GUI
Nov 5, 2005



SamBishop posted:

Huh, interesting that you mention that. I'm glad to gear people still remember that series.

Even after a decade I still fondly remember the series and got a PSP back in 2007 to play the remake. I heard there were some rumors of a third game years ago, but nothing came out of them.

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Is Crash Bandicot still a Sony character?

I believe Activision owns the Crash Bandicoot IP at the moment.

BMB5150
Oct 24, 2010

Barnhart screwed me, that's typical of him, he's always been a wanker.


Tamagod Sushi posted:

Is Crash Bandicot still a Sony character?

Nope. When Naughty Dog and Insomniac jumped ship at Universal, Universal maintained the rights to Crash and Spyro. In some cases, those 2 aren't really Sony characters at all. They were only published via proxy to Sony until Universal went their own way in publishing. Now they're owned by Activision who I despise with a furious passion. Reminds me, I heard the new spyro game isn't bad, has anyone played and tell if it's not half bad?

sentrygun
Dec 29, 2009

FUCKIN
ASSHOLE


Wow, so the crazy rear end guy posting pictures of himself is dumb costumes probably wasn't entirely an attention grab?

I think I've said "gently caress games journalism" plenty before, but gently caress games journalism forever. How the hell does this nobody get a sneak peek at something like this when it's practically a rumor at best at the moment?

Megasabin
Sep 9, 2003

I get half!!

The chances of that game actually being good are slim, unless they directly copy Smash Brother's formula. Smash Brothers clones sneak in here and there, but they all suck, because they try to change the formula up and just aren't anywhere near as much fun. Also I feel like the development team puts a whole lot of love and an insane amount of time into each Smash Brother game.

Come to think of it, there actually already has been a Smash Brothers-esque 4-player fighting game that used some Sony characters like Solid Snake, but it never came out in America. I also heard it sucked.

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010


Megasabin posted:

Come to think of it, there actually already has been a Smash Brothers-esque 4-player fighting game that used some Sony characters like Solid Snake, but it never came out in America. I also heard it sucked.

Dream Mix TV: World Fighters, which also featured Optimus Prime/Convoy, Simon Belmont, Bomberman, Twinbee, and Master Higgins.

Apparently even Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Smash Up, developed in part by the same people who worked on Super Smash Bros. Brawl, failed to capture the same magic.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006
I shoot my gun and Java be dancin'


Krad posted:

If they add Catherine in there, they can have my money.

Oh yes. This right here. Both Catherine and Katherine, maybe as one character switchable with some... thing?

And bring in Vincent too!

And if it includes Kiryu, Akiyama, Tanimura and Saejima from Yakuza 4 I'll buy the special edition and force all my friends to, too. Come on, they're MADE for that kind of game, license 'em!

... a man can dream.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007


I imagine Rachet and Clank would be in it too, and possibly Jak/Daxter.

whip
Apr 9, 2007

办不到

MW3 has already lost it's luster to me. Back to dreaming about TTT2 on console

I said come in! posted:

Playing as Parappa the Rapper only. He is going to be so overpowered, just you wait.

Kick, punch, it's all in the mind~

Methodis
Mar 22, 2010

by Ozmaugh


sentrygun posted:

Wow, so the crazy rear end guy posting pictures of himself is dumb costumes probably wasn't entirely an attention grab?

I think I've said "gently caress games journalism" plenty before, but gently caress games journalism forever. How the hell does this nobody get a sneak peek at something like this when it's practically a rumor at best at the moment?

I think he's a motion capture guy considering his exploits in the form kung fu, so he probably did some motion capture for some of the characters.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006
I shoot my gun and Java be dancin'


Well, been playing more Valkyria and finally beat the last fight in chapter 11.

OH MY GOD NO, WHAT THE gently caress, WHY?! That and the last cinematic of the chapter... I just... gently caress. :smith: If anyone needs me, I'll be curled up in the corner being sad as all gently caress.

Ein Bear
Mar 26, 2010

Oh Sirrah, how deliciously absurd!


I'm playing through Assassin's Creed Brotherhood at the minute, was a bit burnt out after AC2 so I held off for a while. Is the Da Vinci Disappearance DLC worth picking up? I wasn't a fan of the DLCs for AC2.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

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Ein Bear posted:

I'm playing through Assassin's Creed Brotherhood at the minute, was a bit burnt out after AC2 so I held off for a while. Is the Da Vinci Disappearance DLC worth picking up? I wasn't a fan of the DLCs for AC2.

It's better than AC2's. It has a cool tomb level, and the ending of it likely ties in to the plot of AC3.

SamBishop
Jan 10, 2003



sentrygun posted:

Wow, so the crazy rear end guy posting pictures of himself is dumb costumes probably wasn't entirely an attention grab?

I think I've said "gently caress games journalism" plenty before, but gently caress games journalism forever. How the hell does this nobody get a sneak peek at something like this when it's practically a rumor at best at the moment?

Yep, that sure is games journalism, yesiree. It's not like people that are actually in the press are privy to stuff all the time and simply can't talk about it because of NDAs or choose not to because they value the relationships they have with people actually working on or around the projects. Nope, gently caress games journalism, rarrrrgh!

And yes, it was an attention grab of the highest degree. Actual journalism isn't posting stuff you heard second-hand on a personal blog. I'm going to start a site with videos of cats walking around on random names that spell out the titles of games so that when one of them comes true, people can scream "games journalismmmmmmmmmm!!!! "

Aphrodite posted:

It's better than AC2's. It has a cool tomb level, and the ending of it likely ties in to the plot of AC3.

I think this is the first I've heard impressions-wise about the Da Vinci stuff either way, but that kinda makes me want to go back and play it now. What was the AC2 DLC, just more random assassination missions? If Ubi is actually trying to build a few links between games with their post-release content, that's honestly pretty cool (well, if you like the storylines of the series, I guess, but I do).

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

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SamBishop posted:

I think this is the first I've heard impressions-wise about the Da Vinci stuff either way, but that kinda makes me want to go back and play it now. What was the AC2 DLC, just more random assassination missions? If Ubi is actually trying to build a few links between games with their post-release content, that's honestly pretty cool (well, if you like the storylines of the series, I guess, but I do).

Yeah, the AC2 stuff was entirely outdoors overworld stuff I think.

One was so forgettable I couldn't even tell you what happened. Bonfire had you go around to kill like 9 guys, mostly in restricted areas. Basically they were like the Templar Captains for the Tower/Den takeovers in Brotherhood/Revelations. Not exactly the most thrilling gameplay.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Until August 5th, 2013


edit: oops I thought this was the Assassin's Creed thread.

blue squares fucked around with this message at Nov 27, 2011 around 22:32

SamBishop
Jan 10, 2003



Aphrodite posted:

Yeah, the AC2 stuff was entirely outdoors overworld stuff I think.

One was so forgettable I couldn't even tell you what happened. Bonfire had you go around to kill like 9 guys, mostly in restricted areas. Basically they were like the Templar Captains for the Tower/Den takeovers in Brotherhood/Revelations. Not exactly the most thrilling gameplay.

Ew, yeah, that's just quick and dirty filler stuff. DLC in general is still in its infancy, and I'm curious to see how it'll look in a few years. There are plenty of (perfectly valid) complaints about stuff being held back for DLC (even if a lot of it is conjecture without actual proof, but I've seen more than a few examples of it in practice to know it's unfortunately something that does absolutely happen). I absolutely love when devs take their time, though, and put out something a few months later that clearly shows they gave it thought and effort.

DLC can be used to amazing effect to keep a game relevant and interesting or even help to link it to future games, but it does take a lot of manpower and careful pre-planning, sadly. It's still much more financially wise to just move the entire team over to the new project rather than leave a skeleton DLC crew, but that makes me appreciate stuff like Mass Effect 2's Shadow Broker mission that much more.

I can only hope in two or three years that the practice will have solidified in a way that makes it a viable option to really reward people who picked up the game with something that continues the story down the line rather than this online pass nonsense, but of course I'm not foolish enough to think anything but whatever makes money will be the primary motivating factor. The statistics of people who actually finish a game are absolutely pitiful, so I understand the apprehension. But hey, we've really only been able to do this for one generation (PC expansion packs notwithstanding), so maybe the lessons learned here will have ripple effects when we take the inevitable leap into future hardware launches.

Puddin
Apr 8, 2004
Leave it to Brak

I'm just gonna go against the grain here and say Super Smash Brothers was boring as gently caress, so that PS version is a non-issue for me.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004



Puddin posted:

I'm just gonna go against the grain here and say Super Smash Brothers was boring as gently caress, so that PS version is a non-issue for me.

I'm in agreement with you here. I didn't understand all of the hype and sperging that game series had. I played the Wii one and it was completely retarded and pointless. The new Marvel vs Capcom is similar and actually a fun game.

the truth
Dec 16, 2007



Brawl wasn't as much fun as Melee. Also, if you weren't playing Brawl with a Gamecube controller you were doing it wrong.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

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I said come in! posted:

I'm in agreement with you here. I didn't understand all of the hype and sperging that game series had. I played the Wii one and it was completely retarded and pointless. The new Marvel vs Capcom is similar and actually a fun game.

...Really not similar at all.

MUFFlNS
Mar 7, 2004



I'm just chuffed that the game is being made. It's like somebody saw my posts a while back when I mentioned how cool the concept would be and thought "Let's make that!"

As for Smash Bros itself, it's just a fun game to play with friends in my opinion. I think that game along with Mario Strikers Charged are two of the best local multiplayer games around, especially if you're all drinking.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


Whether or not the gameplay is actually akin to Smash Bros, the concept of "Sony Smash Bros" has been talked about since the PS1 era. For all we know it could be some sort of Marvel-style game or something like Jump Ultimate Stars or that new ArcSys' Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan game with it's greater emphasis on combos.

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008
HAMDOGS: Like staring into the Flame of God

BMB5150 posted:

Reminds me, I heard the new spyro game isn't bad, has anyone played and tell if it's not half bad?

It's a well-made game with some cool tech. The ability to pull your characters off the portal and put a new one on, instantly replacing the character in-game, is pretty sweet. That said, you only get three characters, and there are many areas in the game that you will not be able to go to because you don't have the right element. It's also a fairly simple, repetitive title (with text that scrolls so. drat. slowly). But it's still decent fun, and great for younger gamers.

Krad
Feb 4, 2008

Touche


Aphrodite posted:

...Really not similar at all.

Similar as in... it's a corssover game, I guess?

They should just get Capcom to make it, they know their fighting games.

gameday
Apr 28, 2006

Hungry for sport

Aphrodite posted:

It's better than AC2's. It has a cool tomb level, and the ending of it likely ties in to the plot of AC3.

I love AC, but with all the game releases recently and upcoming, I won't have time to play this. Ever. Will you kindly spoil the ending that you think might tie into AC3?

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005
THIS CUSTOM TITLE WILL COME IN HANDY WHILE LURKING


Megasabin posted:

The chances of that game actually being good are slim, unless they directly copy Smash Brother's formula. Smash Brothers clones sneak in here and there, but they all suck, because they try to change the formula up and just aren't anywhere near as much fun. Also I feel like the development team puts a whole lot of love and an insane amount of time into each Smash Brother game.

The Jump Superstars series on the DS was legitimately pretty fun, and that's coming from someone who didn't recognize any of the characters other than Goku and Yugi.

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

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gameday posted:

I love AC, but with all the game releases recently and upcoming, I won't have time to play this. Ever. Will you kindly spoil the ending that you think might tie into AC3?

The tomb is a temple built by followers of Pythagoras (Who in AC lore had a Piece of Eden) that gives you a number. To Ezio and Leonardo it means nothing, but it's actually GPS coordinates to a lake in a New York state park. There are two theories I've found on what it means.

One is that very close to that lake is a place called Bonaparte's Cave. Napoleon's brother fled to the Americas after Napoleon's exile (That much is fact), and the local legend is that they hid in that area for a time from assassins. Given the 2 French Revolution symbols you find at the end of Brotherhood proper, there could be something to it.

The other is that apparently the lake is right outside the town of Turin New York, which forms a Right triangle (Aka a Pythagorean triangle) with the towns of Rome and Florence. This feels a bit on the nose for me, though. This page has a picture of it.

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