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So apparently the guys who made Payday The Heist are teaming up with Valve to make a brand new Coop shooter. Given how Valve let Portal 2 have cross platform play, I gather that this will probably be goal as well. PTH was a great effort, and hopefully with Valve applying the polish on whatever they come up with, it could turn out to be real good.
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| # ? May 21, 2012 14:44 |
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I'm conflicted about Rock of Ages. The art design, cutscenes and humor are all pretty great(even if the joke are a little dated) but I just don't find the gameplay all that fun. At least I got it free with PS+
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| # ? May 21, 2012 14:54 |
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blackguy32 posted:I still don't really see it as a ripoff of Uncharted. To me it just seems like an evolution of the gameplay from Far Cry 1 and 2. But it is one of the games I am excited for later this year. I haven't seen any mention of a map editor this time, though, which is a bit of a shame. Making maps was fun, and you could do some pretty impressive things if you put in the effort. That said, hardly anyone ever played any of mine  - people most seemed to prefer lovely sniper-fests like the one where the teams line up along ledges on each side of a perfectly straight canyon and plink away at each other.The respawn delay in FC2's multiplayer was frustrating as hell, too. Dying should be punishment enough in itself - why do I then have to wait as much as 15 seconds to get back into the game? 
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| # ? May 21, 2012 15:15 |
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Cbouncerrun posted:I'm conflicted about Rock of Ages. The art design, cutscenes and humor are all pretty great(even if the joke are a little dated) but I just don't find the gameplay all that fun. At least I got it free with PS+ This was my reaction when I played it a friend's house. He was very excited about it but I just got bored after a couple of rolls. Apparently there's a semi-RTS aspect I didn't see, but people in this thread say that part was actually less fun than the rolling, so...
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| # ? May 21, 2012 15:42 |
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How did you not see any of the RTS portion? Did you only play skee-ball and races?
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| # ? May 21, 2012 15:46 |
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...! posted:
You mean there are guidos in Jersey? Well I never!
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| # ? May 21, 2012 15:46 |
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I actually gave Rock of Ages another try after complaining about it and semi-warmed up to the whole concept. You eventually learn that the entire tower defense concept can be cheesed to hell and make the feature pretty trivial so all that's left is to make sure you've got the money to keep building and enjoy the rolling part. I beat the game last night but it took like 3/4 sittings because the whole game does not lend itself very well to extended play, especially when stage settings begin repeating. Anyway, the tower defense segment is kind of a joke because 9/10ths of it is just making sure they're going slow for the last stretch. So you just load up the last building squares with your towers and such to slow them down. So like you make a blockade of towers, then put air blowers behind them and then you put your catapults/arbalests in range of these towers so while they're fumbling to get over the tower/past the air they get shot by the catapults. And then you put Elephants to batter them around and knock them off the stage/into walls/hold them down. In the very last regular stage, I just made so many arbalests at one really awkward part in the middle of the course that the AI couldn't get past it and died every time it entered there. But most of your work is usually at the end.
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| # ? May 21, 2012 15:51 |
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Yeah as someone who lived near the shore for ten years I can tell you right now that part of the game is 100% how it is. Though Hoboken in real life is hardly rundown. I'm surprised, given the general direction of Rockstar's stories that they didn't choose Patterson or Asbury Park instead. The former is the only city in the US to have an adult curfew due. The latter, up until maybe five years ago you could literally go there on a Saturday night and film an episode of Manhunt and no one would even notice, you'd get volunteers. I actually thought Manhunt was based on it when the game came out.
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...! posted:Well, I'm about five chapters into Max Payne 3 and I'm hoping the gameplay gets better because so far it's not great. The cover mechanic is completely out of place and it makes it almost never worthwhile to use bullet time or shootdodges so the feel of the game is completely off. In the first two games you pretty much have to use it all the time but here you almost never do except for the moments where it plops you down completely in the open against 5+ enemies, any one of which can completely drain your health in under a second. ... and I don't know what you're doing differently, but I didn't even realize the NPCs you fight with could die, and I use bullet time constantly in Max Payne 3. Taking cover, especially in the later levels, just makes you a target for flanking or grenades - you spend a good half the game flying in slow-mo between different covers, or running dramatically across a line of fire with bullet-time engaged. (There's a particularly cool shootout in an office near the halfway point where paper's flying everywhere, cubicles are exploding, etc) With the NPCs dying, are you certain that wasn't just one of the time-out events that hits if you wait too long? Those are freaking irritating to be sure, but I don't think I've ever seen an NPC I'm fighting with / escorting actually die in anything but a scripted sequence. There's absolutely plenty to be irritated by, though. I dig the gameplay, but the story just... doesn't go anywhere. It's like they knew how to write Max for the first few hours, but couldn't figure out how to evolve the character or story beyond that, so it's just that first few hours worth of character stretched over the entire game. Gameplay evolves fine, but the story's static. They even pull a kill-the-girl-you're-trying-to-rescue... and instantly replace her with a carbon copy of the girl for you to run after again! Go on Max, your princess is in another castle!. Still digging it overall, but they certainly front-loaded the more charming bits. Kinda reminds me of LA Noire in that sense - it seems like it stretches on way past where it should have. Unless the end really wows me, I think I would have left with a much more positive impression if they'd just ended it at the 1-disc mark. Shalinor fucked around with this message at May 21, 2012 around 16:00 |
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It really turns into Uncharted: The Max Payne Stories after about the halfway point. It couldve been any nameless protagonist. I still dig the game though a lot Only real problem I had is (concerning the end game) I thought I was paying attention but Who the gently caress is Becker and why do I hate him so much???
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| # ? May 21, 2012 16:50 |
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Neo Rasa posted:Yeah as someone who lived near the shore for ten years I can tell you right now that part of the game is 100% how it is. Though Hoboken in real life is hardly rundown. I'm surprised, given the general direction of Rockstar's stories that they didn't choose Patterson or Asbury Park instead. The former is the only city in the US to have an adult curfew due. The latter, up until maybe five years ago you could literally go there on a Saturday night and film an episode of Manhunt and no one would even notice, you'd get volunteers. I actually thought Manhunt was based on it when the game came out. Newark.
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| # ? May 21, 2012 17:01 |
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Fuzz posted:Enslaved was a horrible letdown compared to Heavenly Sword. Particularly because the most visually interesting party of the game is over in less than an hour, and then it's just bad writing with a retarded ending, and the browniest environment that ever did brown. The characters were all terrible and it lacked all the great VA work and weird characters of HS. Can you elaborate on this please? I was thinking of picking up a cheap used copy of Enslaved purely for the eyecandy and having a quick run through it. Your post seems to imply however that everything they showed of the game (all the green foilage, blue skies, colour etc) is actually a very small part of the game? Does it quickly nosedive into brown for 90% of the game or something?
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| # ? May 21, 2012 17:03 |
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No it wasn't brown, everything else is pretty spot on...it was alright. Oh the camera was kind of shite also Brototype was better Arthur Bowlsworth fucked around with this message at May 21, 2012 around 17:17 |
| # ? May 21, 2012 17:15 |
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MUFFlNS posted:Can you elaborate on this please? I was thinking of picking up a cheap used copy of Enslaved purely for the eyecandy and having a quick run through it. Your post seems to imply however that everything they showed of the game (all the green foilage, blue skies, colour etc) is actually a very small part of the game? Does it quickly nosedive into brown for 90% of the game or something? I really liked the setting, and the game was playable if not...engrossing, I guess. The gameplay, specifically the climbing, was almost mindless. Combat was a little better, but I felt that I was locked out of the more interesting options for most of the game.
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| # ? May 21, 2012 17:16 |
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Fuzz posted:Newark. I know Newark was most likely the real inspiration but it actually has people in it and Ironbound was actually already turning around way before Manhunt came out. Asbury Park was like a literal ghost town with the occasional drunk prostitute or drugged out crazy guy stumbling around just within line of sight. Any time there at night was hard to discern from watching the early parts of Escape from New York or playing Condemned 1. Geographically though yeah it takes place in "not Newark." MUFFINS: The foliage colorful portions of Enslaved are great. A lot of the game though takes place in robotic machinery like the ship you escape from in the demo. Lots of mechanical corridors and such. The difficulty also never really rises due how simple and restricted the combat and platforming are. Personally I didn't hate it but I wouldn't spend more than like $10 on it.
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| # ? May 21, 2012 17:19 |
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EC posted:I really liked the setting, and the game was playable if not...engrossing, I guess. The gameplay, specifically the climbing, was almost mindless. Combat was a little better, but I felt that I was locked out of the more interesting options for most of the game. Yeah I don't think it was possible to die from platforming. It is also incredibly easy, playing on hard there was only one point that gave me a bit of grief.
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| # ? May 21, 2012 17:20 |
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I'm interested to hear what your opinion is once you've finished the game. I really feel like that point is when the story changes gears into something much more interesting. I really liked the way the first half of the game builds up the events of the second half. I feel like the split to two discs for xbox would have a cool affect on that transition, actually.
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| # ? May 21, 2012 22:39 |
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Cartoon Man posted:So apparently the guys who made Payday The Heist are teaming up with Valve to make a brand new Coop shooter. Given how Valve let Portal 2 have cross platform play, I gather that this will probably be goal as well. PTH was a great effort, and hopefully with Valve applying the polish on whatever they come up with, it could turn out to be real good. What is up with Valve collaborating so much with Sony? You'd think they'd go to Microsoft and their console first, but nope.
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| # ? May 21, 2012 23:50 |
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Krad posted:What is up with Valve collaborating so much with Sony? You'd think they'd go to Microsoft and their console first, but nope. IIRC it's because Sony was willing to make compromises and upgrades to their online system while Microsoft won't let anyone touch Live. Hence, Steam is integrated with PSN and not Live.
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| # ? May 21, 2012 23:55 |
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In that case... can we have Steam
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| # ? May 21, 2012 23:58 |
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Krad posted:What is up with Valve collaborating so much with Sony? You'd think they'd go to Microsoft and their console first, but nope. Yeah it's especially surprising because Valve was so outspoken with their PS3 criticism up to and even during Portal 2's development.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 00:00 |
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Honestly? At the time, it was probably a gently caress you to Microsoft's attempt at Games for Windows Live or something. But they like how Portal 2 turned out, so why not keep a good relationship going.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 00:15 |
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Yodzilla posted:How did you not see any of the RTS portion? Did you only play skee-ball and races? We played for like half an hour in between other stuff, I guess I didn't get the full experience. The skee-ball racing part that I played was fairly uninteresting though. Chard fucked around with this message at May 22, 2012 around 00:21 |
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Feenix posted:You mean there are guidos in Jersey? Well I never! You make a lot of strange, ill-informed, reactionary posts. The three guys that come up to Max at the beginning of the level look exactly like the guys from Jersey Shore, not random Jersey guidos. I've watched (ironically, OK? ) enough of that show to tell you exactly which Jersey Shore cast members they were based off of.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 00:49 |
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bbcisdabomb posted:IIRC it's because Sony was willing to make compromises and upgrades to their online system while Microsoft won't let anyone touch Live. Hence, Steam is integrated with PSN and not Live. XBL has a strenuous approval process, higher royalties, restrictions (file sizes) and associated fees (pay money for patches). On the one hand, XBL has a broader user base, more centralized integration (voice chat ftw), and a stronger cohesive direction. On the other hand, that central control can also be frustrating to developers used to the flexibility of a self-run PC market or the Steam platform. XBL makes Microsoft a metric shitload of money every year though, so I'm not sure how much motivation they would have to change their policies.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 00:57 |
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...! posted:You make a lot of strange, ill-informed, reactionary posts. The three guys that come up to Max at the beginning of the level look exactly like the guys from Jersey Shore, not random Jersey guidos. I've watched (ironically, OK?
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| # ? May 22, 2012 01:04 |
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Up until today I had no idea there was a Ratchet and Clank HD collection coming out. Having seen the screenshots, I want it, despite already owning all three games in the pack on PS2. Granted, I already owned all the games in the MGS collection but at least that has the draw of being able to see what you're doing in Snake Eater. I'm not the only one who buys these HD packs of games they already have, am I?
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| # ? May 22, 2012 01:34 |
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I'd say like half the HD Classics I've bought on PS3 are for games I already owned on PS2. Usually the prospect of getting a trilogy/series I liked in HD with Trophies and improved performance is worth the $40 or so.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 01:38 |
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Dr Snofeld posted:I'm not the only one who buys these HD packs of games they already have, am I? Don't underestimate the power of trophy support that gets added in these HD re-releases.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:01 |
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TaurusOxford posted:Don't underestimate the power of trophy support that gets added in these HD re-releases. This. I love the R&C games to death, and will take any excuse to play them again. Same reason I'm hoping that Kingdom Hearts HD rumor comes true.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:10 |
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DmC / Devil May Cry / Whatever has been delayed until next year. No schadenfreude for people who wanted to see it fail this year.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:16 |
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Harlock posted:DmC / Devil May Cry / Whatever has been delayed until next year. No schadenfreude for people who wanted to see it fail this year. That's another game delayed. Aliens: Colonial Marines was delayed til next year too.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:23 |
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Harlock posted:DmC / Devil May Cry / Whatever has been delayed until next year. No schadenfreude for people who wanted to see it fail this year. Isn't January where publishers stick games that they think are going to bomb? Like since people are still reeling from Christmas and all?
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:23 |
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Chard posted:We played for like half an hour in between other stuff, I guess I didn't get the full experience. The skee-ball racing part that I played was fairly uninteresting though. Yeah that mode kinda blows. The normal mode is the RTS portion and while it's not the best thing ever it's at least interesting.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:26 |
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Policenaut posted:Isn't January where publishers stick games that they think are going to bomb? Like since people are still reeling from Christmas and all? Yup, it's where the "I'm sure it's a good game but I'm sure nobody else thinks that way" kind of games get released.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:26 |
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Dr Snofeld posted:Up until today I had no idea there was a Ratchet and Clank HD collection coming out. Having seen the screenshots, I want it, despite already owning all three games in the pack on PS2. Granted, I already owned all the games in the MGS collection but at least that has the draw of being able to see what you're doing in Snake Eater. The only HD collection I bought for games I had already played was the metal gear ones, and I hadn't played Peace walker or the Substance stuff in MGS2 so even then there was a lot of new content for me.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:29 |
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The only reason to use cover in Max Payne 3 is to charge up some bullet time, then you jump of the cover hit bullet time and waste everyone.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:31 |
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TaurusOxford posted:Don't underestimate the power of trophy support that gets added in these HD re-releases. Hell, Ratchet and Clank even had trophies before there were trophies. Skill points were awesome.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 02:36 |
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ElwoodCuse posted:Hell, Ratchet and Clank even had trophies before there were trophies. Skill points were awesome. They even unlocked sweet stuff like big head mode and silly skins (at least they did in the PS3 games, I dunno about the PS2 series?)
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Spalec posted:They even unlocked sweet stuff like big head mode and silly skins (at least they did in the PS3 games, I dunno about the PS2 series?) Yeah, the PS2 games did the same thing. One of them unlocked this sweet "Insomniac Museum" if you got them all where they showed you stuff that got cut from the game or early concepts of stuff. And it was an interactive level, not just screencaps or something.
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