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reflex posted:This is the best time of the console cycle. Cheap rear end ($10-20) games. I'm currently going through the Uncharted trilogy again and even the first one is still great to play. I think next on the list to pick up is going to be A Crack in Time or God of War III/Ascension. What would everybody's suggestions for essential PS3 games (or multi-platform games on PS3) be? Definitely get A Crack in Time and God of War III, and avoid Ascension. However, if you're new to these series then I'd recommend first playing Ratchet & Clank 1 and 3, as well as the first two God of War games. It's also a great time to play PS2 games, since they're dirt cheap as well as much sharper and smoother in the HD remasters. Beat the bonus Clank puzzles in A Crack in Time without a guide, and you will have earned my respect. Vanquish is another game from that generation you shouldn't miss out on, especially since it hasn't been ported to PC, and the PS3 version is better just for having no screen tearing (and I prefer the PS3 controller for it). It's basically Contra in 3D, with incredibly precise movement and aiming, at least once you've learned how to get the most out of your boost, dodge roll, and slow-mo. It makes other third-person shooters feel clunky and imprecise, especially when you're trying to unstick from cover, waiting for an animation to finish before you're allowed to do anything, or trying to catch up to an enemy to use a melee attack. Even though it has a reputation for being difficult, I find it much easier on hard mode than any other 3PS on normal, just because you're rarely put in a situation where you have no chance of surviving.
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Awesome! posted:did way of the samurai 4 even get a US release? all I see is UK and JP imports. Wait, UK got a disc copy? Time for me to import! I don't think there was any meaningful DLC for this as well, right? Wait: This is coming to the PC as well. I think I might still get the disc copy being that Ghostlight is the one doing the port. RadicalR fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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im watching some gameplay of it and it looks cool but the screen tearing is ridiculous. is that a problem throughout the game?
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Awesome! posted:im watching some gameplay of it and it looks cool but the screen tearing is ridiculous. is that a problem throughout the game? http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/611500-way-of-the-samurai-4/64203797 http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/611500-way-of-the-samurai-4/67899668 Apparently, it only happens when you start a new game. If you load your save, it fixes the issue.
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Dominic White posted:Because it is the best idea. My character's one true love was the midget jester, which led to the most hilariously awkward makeout scene imaginable.  Crows Turn Off posted:Mine ended up being the Duchess, but I was trying for Madeleine. I even gave her that affinity ring. Screw that game.
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ImpAtom posted:Can I support them never doing this ever? I would love to see the games cleaned up and released digitally. The third game is best of the series and the one I lost during a move long time ago. Speaking of RPGs, anthing good about Tiars to Tiara 2 or new Ar No surge game? The latter at least seems interesting if its more like At Tonelico 2.
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From what little I've seen of Ar No Surge, it looks like AT2 but with waves of enemies (mostly offscreen) that you just poke at with your vanguards until you magic them all to death. It doesn't look like it has the quick random battle turnaround time that AT1/2 had, and it looks like a bit of a slog. Maybe it gets a bit faster past what the early gameplay videos showed though, I couldn't tell you.
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That loving Sned posted:avoid Ascension. What makes Ascension so bad?
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reflex posted:What makes Ascension so bad? A lot of people didn't like the changes to the parry and rage meters and the game in general felt pretty bland and unnecessary, especially the plot. I enjoyed it enough to get the platinum but I think I'm in the minority there. If you enjoy the rest of the series I still think it's worth a go.
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reflex posted:What makes Ascension so bad? I'll just quote myself from earlier in the thread: axleblaze posted:So, I just beat God of War: Ascension, and I feel the need to talk about it a bit. What the hell went wrong with this game? How do you fumble a God of War game this badly? This game is bizarrely bad. Never have I seen a game take as many missteps as this one with as few excuses. This is easily the worst entry in the series and there's just no excuse for it.
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Welp. Guess I'll start at 3 and consider Ascension if I really want more.
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I've never played a god of war game because they look like poo poo.
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reflex posted:Welp. Guess I'll start at 3 and consider Ascension if I really want more. Any PS2 or PSP God of War game is superior to God of War Ascension. You can get those digitally on the PSN for less than Ascension anyway.
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Neo Rasa posted:Any PS2 or PSP God of War game is superior to God of War Ascension. You can get those digitally on the PSN for less than Ascension anyway.
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Play the HD PSP ones before you play Ascension. Those are way way way better than Ascension and are actually both better than 3 as well.
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They also make Kratos seem like more of a sympathetic character than the straight-up psychopath he becomes in the mainline games.
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I still hate that we didn't get what Jaffe originally wanted where Kratos was going to meet up with Siguard and Musashi Miyamoto and go on a global quest to systematically destroy all gods and all faith in gods.
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Was there ever a Way of the Samurai 4 thread? Trying to see if I can get that sword they were talking about...
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RadicalR posted:Was there ever a Way of the Samurai 4 thread? There was but it's long since fallen into the archives.
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Pablo Gigante posted:They also make Kratos seem like more of a sympathetic character than the straight-up psychopath he becomes in the mainline games. A yes, such a sympathetic man
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Austrian mook posted:A yes, such a sympathetic man Nothing in the entire God of War franchise creeped me out as much as in GoW 3 where they started trying to portray Kratos in a positive light. I'd set innocent people on fire, ripped off countless heads, torn people in half, and slaughtered entire villages. I was cool with that, because I was playing a Bad Person. That was the agreement. Kratos wasn't a person as much as a force of nature, the hubris of the gods given form and set loose upon them. And then GoW 3 starts making him seem like a reluctant hero, and I immediately got creeped the hell out. No, game, you are not supposed to think I'm supposed to identify with this guy. He's just the dude I play when I want to stab things.
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I picked up Beyond: Two Souls when it was on sale because I liked Heavy Rain (flaws and all) and have to say that I enjoyed it as well. I think that enjoying it is dependent on laughing at the ridiculous aspects of it all and being able to look past the David Cage-y parts of the whole experience (the shower/skimpy outfits scenes, actually thinking about the story, the emotional leaps, etc.) It looked great, Ellen Page gave it her all, it was very cinematic, the thrilling parts were thrilling and bouncing around between timelines made it feel more engaging than it would have going through the story chronologically. I'd be intrigued by a sequel considering the way(s) it ended, but don't expect one. I do appreciate that it's a very different type of game experience and while it doesn't always work, it's interesting and a nice break from the standard FPS and 3rd person shooter fare. Plus every instance of Ellen Page beating the poo poo out of people was hilarious/awesome. el oso fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Sep 17, 2014 |
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Crappy Jack posted:Nothing in the entire God of War franchise creeped me out as much as in GoW 3 where they started trying to portray Kratos in a positive light. I'd set innocent people on fire, ripped off countless heads, torn people in half, and slaughtered entire villages. I was cool with that, because I was playing a Bad Person. That was the agreement. Kratos wasn't a person as much as a force of nature, the hubris of the gods given form and set loose upon them. And then GoW 3 starts making him seem like a reluctant hero, and I immediately got creeped the hell out. No, game, you are not supposed to think I'm supposed to identify with this guy. He's just the dude I play when I want to stab things. You should see the making of video where Stig, the game's director, explains to the studio what his plan for the ending is. It's something like "And Kratos finds that the power to destroy Zeus was not in Pandora's Box, but was inside him all along." They also try to make him a father figure by having him escort Pandora around. I can't even remember what they tried to do in Ascension, it was pretty much some guy tries to be Kratos' friend, has to sacrifice himself for some reason so Kratos can keep living, the end.
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Every review says what an easy game Shadows of the Damned is. All liars. I'm prepared to concede that I may suck at games but the free aiming combined with requirements to hit very specific spots drives me up the wall. I'm almost ready to call it quits and restart on easiest difficulty since luckily it's not a particularly long game. Come to think of it that's been the one thing that's dragged every game I've played recently down for me. Bioshock Infinite, Tomb Raider, InFamous, they all have free aiming and the shooty parts were my least favourite in all of them. For some reason I'm doing fine with Saints Row, though. Probably because it's nuts. Semi-related: any decent games where the focus is on exploration and combat is present, but melee and stealth stuff is more viable and it has lock-on aiming and/or a cover system for everything else? I quite liked Deus Ex, GTA V and sniping dudes in Tomb Raider.
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Crappy Jack posted:Nothing in the entire God of War franchise creeped me out as much as in GoW 3 where they started trying to portray Kratos in a positive light. I'd set innocent people on fire, ripped off countless heads, torn people in half, and slaughtered entire villages. I was cool with that, because I was playing a Bad Person. That was the agreement. Kratos wasn't a person as much as a force of nature, the hubris of the gods given form and set loose upon them. And then GoW 3 starts making him seem like a reluctant hero, and I immediately got creeped the hell out. No, game, you are not supposed to think I'm supposed to identify with this guy. He's just the dude I play when I want to stab things. Did you play the first one? They attempt to make Kratos sympathetic in that one as well.
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Glad to hear Dishonored because it's near the top of my backlog stack!
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blackguy32 posted:Did you play the first one? They attempt to make Kratos sympathetic in that one as well. edit: or change the game so you occasionally talk to people instead of tearing their head off, either way is good. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Sep 17, 2014 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah, I guess I remember waaaaaaay back at the beginning when the gods made him kill his family or something, but I don't remember him ever uttering anything that would sound like a human being's reaction to that, just nonstop rage. Which in a sense is good; I'm a sucker for games where the characters match the gameplay and given that almost every action game is about murdering every living thing you see, it's hypocritical for the player character to be anything but a psychopath. They should have kept it up. Yeah, pretty much this. The killing his family thing isn't really played for sympathy so much as "Just in case you wanted to know why he wants to Murder All Things", it's just there as a character motivation for Kratos' sole character trait, which is Not Liking The Gods. I never agreed with Kratos or thought like "Yeah, what this guy is doing right now is the correct action and he's doing a good thing", which was why I could roast a guy alive as he pleaded for his life because it would help me open a door, and I liked that. Then, like was mentioned, they start pulling the "The power of Hope was in Kratos all along, and what he's doing is a good thing" bullshit. Kratos kills the Gods because the Gods are dicks and screwed him over. That's it, end of story, that's all you need.
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I didn't really have a problem with that, because the literal Power of Hope was in fact hiding within him after he had released it from Pandora's Box. Trying to give him a sympathetic arc would have been fine, and had actually been done alright in previous games, it just wasn't handled right in GoW3. None of this changes the fact that Kratos is a murder machine, and is just as responsible for his suffering as Zeus and his pack of fuckwads.
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Has anyone tried both the Director's Cut of Deus Ex and the original? I'm curious what's been changed. Also the store page indicates you can play the game using the Vita as a controller which is rather intriguing.
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The Power of Hope this sucks because it's such a clear attempt to make him a hero. Which is a shame because Kratos has a really good character arc for a tragedy. A guy who is responsible for his own suffering but unwilling and unable to accept it and keeps finding new things to blame to avoid having to take responsibility. If the ending of GoW 3 had just been "Kratos kills all the gods and the last thing we see is him, alone and dying, in a desolate hopeless world" it wouldn't have been a *happy* ending but it would have been a perfectly fitting one for the kind of character he is. Like, God of War 2's opening is sort of retroactive retconned into "Zeus is a dick haha" when within context it is "Zeus tricks Kratos because Kratos is declaring war on everyone around him and attacking the cities of the other gods without care."
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Kaleidoscope posted:Has anyone tried both the Director's Cut of Deus Ex and the original? I'm curious what's been changed. Also the store page indicates you can play the game using the Vita as a controller which is rather intriguing. The Director's Cut is certainly the better game, as they added New Game +, incorporated the DLC, and made it so that you can beat the bosses in a way that doesn't require you to go mucking around with unwanted combat skills. That said, though, they really hosed up in some ways. They did something to the lighting engine that makes certain scenes look really ugly, got rid of the yellow filter (both a plus and a minus depending on the scene), hosed up some textures (some of which have been blown up to like 1000% for some reason), and the DLC they incorporated is honestly kind of poo poo and a bit of a slog, and you're forced to play through it now. So, yeah, it's kind of a mixed bag of good stuff and annoying poo poo.
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ImpAtom posted:Like, God of War 2's opening is sort of retroactive retconned into "Zeus is a dick haha" when within context it is "Zeus tricks Kratos because Kratos is declaring war on everyone around him and attacking the cities of the other gods without care." It's worse than that, just opening Pandora's Box in the first game (so he could become huge and fight Aeres) was what caused the Gods to become dicks. I guess even the Gods of Olympus didn't know that opening it would make them all crazy, since they were the ones who told Kratos to use it. Like you said, they could have just had them be distrustful of Kratos for being capable of killing a God even when he was still mortal, and for continuing to hate them after being made the God of War wasn't enough, but instead they just happened to be brainwashed. The only one who wasn't affected was Aphrodite, and that's just because she was originally going to trick Kratos, but it was just turned into another sex QTE.
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The problem with how God of War 3 handled things was how they made him sympathetic had little to no connection to him as a character. Kratos is this huge rear end in a top hat that's done these horrible things and blames everyone else for them. Sure people ahve hosed him over but they usually do this by playing his flaws against him. All of his problems are still his own fault and the way he deals with this is murdering everybody. The end of GoWIII had NOTHING to do with this. He found the power of hope within him? No. Shut up. Kratos is not a character that gets to have the power of hope within him. This is a man who casually innocent murders people to solve puzzles. This can only possible work in a literal sense (as in hope was in pandora's box (not that they cared about what pandora's box actually contained in the original game) and works on no level with any aspect of the rest of the game. They had something with the little girl, in that the girl was supposed to remind him of his daughter, but they also didn't really do anything with that. It's just sort of there making Kratos act out of character. It's a game that gave Kratos redemption without making him earn it. I would have been okay with them making Kratos a hero if they made him work for it but they didn't do that. They just said "hey, Kratos is actually good I guess" while having him act in pretty much the same way he always has. No. gently caress you. Have some understanding of your own god damned character.That loving Sned posted:It's worse than that, just opening Pandora's Box in the first game (so he could become huge and fight Aeres) was what caused the Gods to become dicks. I guess even the Gods of Olympus didn't know that opening it would make them all crazy, since they were the ones who told Kratos to use it. That's another thing. The whole "all the other Gods were evil thing" was so pointless because no they weren't? They were often acting more rationally than you were and most of the truly dick moves they did happened before you opened the box so what the hell are they even talking about?
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Aphrodite posted:I hate God of War discussions. Maybe you should have killed Kratos instead of banging him then.
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Aphrodite posted:I hate God of War discussions. And I hate bitchy white noise posts so I guess none of us are happy.
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axleblaze posted:And I hate bitchy white noise posts so I guess none of us are happy. Check the user name, man.
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