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FateoMcSkippy
Mar 22, 2003


Ironic, isn't it, Smithers?

This anonymous clan
of slack-jawed troglodytes
has cost me the lockout!

And yet, if I were
to have them killed,
I would be the
one to go to jail.

That's democracy for you.




You're all thinking too hard about a comedy show about a group of delinquents with super powers.

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wigbone
Aug 18, 2003

A FINE DAY IN BEIRUT.

This is the one thing
we did not want to happen.


While I didn't like Rudy whatsoever, I think Howard Overman wrote another cracking episode.

If I wasn't such a fan of Nathan I'd have loved Rudy, but I echo what some others have said in that all he does is remind me that Nathan has gone, but I can appreciate the little developments.

The time stopping power girl was really scary - just like the mad milk man - and I couldn't help but feel sorry at her single tear.

I'm hoping that as that is the Rudy centric episode down, the next lot will be far better with the others taking the spot light.

Scott Bakula
Jul 24, 2007



Kelly not being able to sell the rocket designs is kind of dumb because she could just go "watch this then" and create one in front of anyone who needs it to show she can actually do it. I mean yeah it'd need checking but it'd be a start.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

Kies mij!

I am not a rocket scientist, but wouldn't designing a rocket take more time then something you can just whip up in a minute infront of some guy watching?

emuly
Jan 9, 2008



Bumfluff posted:

It probably won't come up, but I wonder what would happen if they all took ecstasy again.

Ghostpilot posted:

Maybe Curtis could genderswap others? Kelly would turn into a rocket?

What would happen to Rudy? Would he become a dwarf? Maybe lose some limbs?

emuly fucked around with this message at Nov 1, 2011 around 22:24

Ponce de Le0n
Jul 6, 2008

Father jailed for beating 3 kids after they wouldn't say who farted in his car


Jose posted:

Kelly not being able to sell the rocket designs is kind of dumb because she could just go "watch this then" and create one in front of anyone who needs it to show she can actually do it. I mean yeah it'd need checking but it'd be a start.

I think you mean design one right? Like sketch it out? Or is she going to whack one together blue peter style

Withers
Jul 24, 2007


LE0N posted:

I think you mean design one right? Like sketch it out? Or is she going to whack one together blue peter style

I'm calling that the third episode reveals Kelly's power actually stretches to constructing ICBMs from household objects

Timo
Jul 12, 2001

Suit up!


Frankenstyle posted:

Also, Simon came back in time but he never even suggested that he had some time travel power. All he said was "Things are different in the future", which suggested that either Curtis' power evolved (obviously not the case now), or that in the future they knew someone with the ability to send him back.

Oh god, if Alisha gains the power to send people back and forth in time and she and Simon have a teary farewell as she sends him back in time to die, I will take back every good thing I've ever said about this show.

Boogaleeboo
Sep 13, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 11 days!


Don't be silly, after Rudy comes to grip with all of his inner demons Simon will take his power, sending Other Simon back in time to die.

Slamhound
Mar 27, 2010


Can people get two powers? Because that leave the door open for a gender-swapped doppleganger to literally go gently caress themselves. Heteronormatively speaking, that is.

megamars
Nov 12, 2010


fleet21 posted:

If I wasn't such a fan of Nathan I'd have loved Rudy, but I echo what some others have said in that all he does is remind me that Nathan has gone, but I can appreciate the little developments.

Rudy has some good points, but as far as this first episode goes he just seems like a Nathan replacement while the rest of the cast are pushed back in his favour and given odd powers.

In It For The Tank
Feb 17, 2011

But I've yet to figure out a better way to spend my time.


Slamhound posted:

Can people get two powers? Because that leave the door open for a gender-swapped doppleganger to literally go gently caress themselves. Heteronormatively speaking, that is.

The evil priest from the Christmas Special had about a dozen powers thanks to Seth.

In It For The Tank fucked around with this message at Nov 2, 2011 around 02:46

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

This dildo-factory will see that "Our Way" is the only option, and any mind too small to take it all willingly gets it forced-in with l

I loved Rudy

Pretty excited to see what happens next

Boogaleeboo
Sep 13, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 11 days!


How can't you like him, he was just so excited to find a girl that liked to take it up the rear end. And on the first date too!

Subterfrugal
Sep 9, 2011


I enjoyed Rudy's response to being bottled.

Hey this guy bottled me!

emuly
Jan 9, 2008



I apologize for this, but I feel the need to rant about the whole Nathan/Rudy situation since I haven't really weighed in yet. Feel free to skip it.

Personally, I'm glad to see Nathan gone. While he was an awesome character, Robert Sheehan is just as insufferable of an rear end as the character he played (and it's not nearly as endearing in the real world as it is to watch in the show.) He's a huge attention whore and appears to feel "above" everyone he works with. There's one interview in particular in which he discusses his leaving (hogging the spotlight from the rest of the cast) where he basically just goes on about how poo poo he thinks the show is, and how much better he believes himself to be. (Sure, cast aside a brilliant show like Misfits so you can star in more Oscar-worthy films like Season of the Witch).  When asked if he'd be tuning in to the new series, he gives a firm, sarcasm-free "No. Definitely not." You can practically see the blood boiling in his fellow cast members while he goes on his spiel-- it was a sad thing no one gave him the kick in the groin he deserved. At least the writers left his departure open-ended so he can come crawling back when his career tanks.

Anyway, the character himself was great. Before the news of Rudy, I was hoping they'd find a way keep Nathan as a character, but have his new power be some sort of Doctor Who-like regeneration or something. Or they could have just re-cast the part; it was early enough in the series to do so. 

As it is, I'm satisfied with Rudy so far. As good an actor as Sheehan was, Gilgun is every bit as talented. Everyone needs to stop bitching about how he's a "Nathan copycat", because insufferable jackassery is what the show needed to fill the void Nathan left.. If anything, we're getting an upgrade, because Rudy is so much more multidimensional  than Nathan. Already I've felt more sympathy for Rudy than I have felt for Nathan in all of his episodes combined. True, sometimes you just need someone one-dimensional for comic relief, but there's no room for development, and that eventually becomes  boring. Nathan's story was already heading downhill (to me, at least.) The whole business with Marney and the baby was so rushed and felt very forced. If I hadn't known any better, I'd have thought the actress who played Marney had won a contest to be in the show and the writers had to force her in somehow.

 I think most of the people whining about Nathan being gone are just upset because they think he's pretty. True, Gilgun looks a bit like Mr Bean with a different head shape, but he's charming too!

emuly fucked around with this message at Nov 2, 2011 around 07:50

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

Yes join me


emuly posted:

I apologize for this, but I feel the need to rant about the whole Nathan/Rudy situation since I haven't really weighed in yet. Feel free to skip it.

Personally, I'm glad to see Nathan gone. While he was an awesome character, Robert Sheehan is just as insufferable of an rear end as the character he played (and it's not nearly as endearing in the real world as it is to watch in the show.) He's a huge attention whore and appears to feel "above" everyone he works with. There's one interview in particular in which he discusses his leaving (hogging the spotlight from the rest of the cast) where he basically just goes on about how poo poo he thinks the show is, and how much better he thinks he believes himself to be. (Sure, cast aside a brilliant show like Misfits so you can star in more Oscar-worthy films like Season of the Witch).  When asked if he'd be tuning in to the new series, he gives a firm, sarcasm-free "No. Definitely not." You can practically see the blood boiling in his fellow cast members while he goes on his spiel-- it was a sad thing no one gave him the kick in the groin he deserved. At least the writers left his departure open-ended so he can come crawling back when his career tanks.

Anyway, the character himself was great. Before the news of Rudy, I was hoping they'd find a way keep Nathan as a character, but have his new power be some sort of Doctor Who-like regeneration or something. Or they could have just re-cast the part; it was early enough in the series to do so. 

As it is, I'm satisfied with Rudy so far. As good an actor as Sheehan was, Gilgun is every bit as talented. Everyone needs to stop bitching about how he's a "Nathan copycat", because insufferable jackassery is what the show needed to fill the void with. If anything, we're getting an upgrade, because Rudy is so much more multidimensional  than Nathan. Already I've felt more sympathy for Rudy than I have felt for Nathan in all of his episodes combined. True, sometimes you just need someone one-dimensional for comic relief, but there's no room for development, and that eventually becomes  boring. Nathan's story was already heading downhill (to me, at least.) The whole business with Marney and the baby was so rushed and felt very forced. If I hadn't known any better, I'd have thought the actress who played Marney had won a contest to be in the show and the writers had to force her in somehow.

 I think most of the people whining about Nathan being gone are just upset because they think he's pretty. True, Gilgun looks a bit like Mr Bean with a different head shape, but he's charming too!

Ya I agree but then again my favorite character is Simon

RoboCicero
Oct 22, 2009

Soda, soda, everywhere, but not a drop to drink.

Once again proving that Simon's real superpower is making everyone forget how creepy he was.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

Yes join me


RoboCicero posted:

Once again proving that Simon's real superpower is making everyone forget how creepy he was.

He got better after killing the second probation worker. Also he was really creepy in the Curtis episode.

precision
May 7, 2006



RoboCicero posted:

Once again proving that Simon's real superpower is making everyone forget how creepy he was.

It's true, by season 2 I was all "Team Simon" and had basically forgotten how weird everything about him was in season 1.

Also thanks guy for typing up that big essay about why Rudy is better than Nathan, it expresses my thoughts quite well. Rudy is awesome.

Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist



She really loved it in the arse. She was such a pure soul.

Firing Cirrus
Mar 19, 2010


In It For The Tank posted:

The evil priest from the Christmas Special had about a dozen powers thanks to Seth.

Simon and Superhoodie also both had "being really good at throwing things" alongside their respective powers.

Overall, thought Rudy fits in very well with the Misfits world, although not the gang yet but that's no surprise given it's only episode 1. His power works well both in the execution in the show (with a great intro to it) and in the broader concept of the powers being a means for reflecting on and dealing with our personality issues. He's about as good a replacement for Nathan we could realistically expect.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002


Firing Cirrus posted:

Simon and Superhoodie also both had "being really good at throwing things" alongside their respective powers.

That could be a result of his current power, if he can see the outcome of his actions he could adjust his throw accordingly.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

Yes join me


Brown Moses posted:

That could be a result of his current power, if he can see the outcome of his actions he could adjust his throw accordingly.

No he had good aim with the peanuts when he faced the tattoo artist.

Timo
Jul 12, 2001

Suit up!


bobkatt013 posted:

No he had good aim with the peanuts when he faced the tattoo artist.

Didn't he throw a paper airplane from a block away and hit Alisha?

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

Yes join me


Timo posted:

Didn't he throw a paper airplane from a block away and hit Alisha?

That was the future version to tell them Nathan was alive and wanking. It was current Simon that used the peanuts

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

Sexual Air Supply


Timo posted:

Didn't he throw a paper airplane from a block away and hit Alisha?

I think it was Kelly.

Looks to me like Simon has a power a bit like Midnighter's:

quote:

the character was described as having a mental combat computer, with neural-inductive implants, which he uses to run through a given combat situation millions of times in his mind, almost instantly covering nearly every possible result before the first punch is even thrown. This allows for the perfect response and counter attack, such that if Midnighter can possibly win a battle, he will.

... but he mostly uses it for running over rooftops instead.

Cycloneman
Jan 31, 2009
ASK ME ABOUT
SISTER FUCKING


RoboCicero posted:

Once again proving that Simon's real superpower is making everyone forget how creepy he was.
Why did Simon never use his invisibility to steal money (other than that one time)? Seriously. He abused it so much to videotape sleeping women, why not use it for a less creepy, more functional purpose?

wigbone
Aug 18, 2003

A FINE DAY IN BEIRUT.

This is the one thing
we did not want to happen.


Cycloneman posted:

Why did Simon never use his invisibility to steal money (other than that one time)? Seriously. He abused it so much to videotape sleeping women, why not use it for a less creepy, more functional purpose?

Thats the beauty of the show. Money never concerned Simon so he didn't care about it. All he wanted (at that time) was acceptance and human contact/intimacy. The power mirrored his feeling of his place in the world.

ShortLeroy
Oct 5, 2011


RoboCicero posted:

Once again proving that Simon's real superpower is making everyone forget how creepy he was.

Anyone noticed that the actor has this weird way of talking from the bottom of his jaw? I think he does it when he's trying to be all badass.

Gorilla Salad
Sep 22, 2003

There's no problem that can't be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts


Cycloneman posted:

Why did Simon never use his invisibility to steal money (other than that one time)? Seriously. He abused it so much to videotape sleeping women, why not use it for a less creepy, more functional purpose?

Or, as Nathan put it once, "I can't believe we're all got superpowers and not one of us has used them to commit crime. It's bloody shameful"

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Cycloneman posted:

Why did Simon never use his invisibility to steal money (other than that one time)? Seriously. He abused it so much to videotape sleeping women, why not use it for a less creepy, more functional purpose?

One is a victimless crime*, just a step up from watching someone across a crowded bar.
The other is definitely harming someone.



*not really, but for the sake of argument

Jeabus Mahogany
Feb 13, 2011

I'm mad because of a thorn in my impenetrable hide

The only thing I don't like about Rudy is his voice. It sounds like it's constantly breaking.

Acrolos
Mar 29, 2004



I decided to check this show out and just finished the pilot. I thought it was ok, but I can't say that I was drawn into it initially. I'll definitely watch a few more episodes before I judge it though.

Gray Ghost
Jan 1, 2003


ShortLeroy posted:

Anyone noticed that the actor has this weird way of talking from the bottom of his jaw? I think he does it when he's trying to be all badass.

I think it's just the Welsh dialect.

I have to say I watched both seasons in a pretty quick go over the course of a weekend and it's definitely one of my favorites now. I liked when they humanized Nathan during the episode with his brother and his Dad, but I really like Rudy too.

I still think that killing off Nikki was a dick move though. It just seemed so needless and tacked-on and Curtis seems to have totally forgotten about her.

As for Simon, he's my favorite character, but Superhoodie was definitely just as creepy if you think about it. I think he just owned it a lot more than past Simon.

Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

I drink to make other people more interesting.

emuly posted:

I think most of the people whining about Nathan being gone are just upset because they think he's pretty.

Nah. I actually thought his character was annoying, and needed to be punched. But the important thing was that I could count on at least two or three laugh out loud moments in every episode, where Nathan fires a brilliantly timed line from out of left field . Rudy got a single half hearted grin out of me. Once. The jokes were tired and telegraphed, and the actor was trying way too hard. The show just felt kind of soulless and dull, with all the fun sucked out of it.

And count me in for joining team Simon in season two, and feeling a bit icky about it ever since.

emuly
Jan 9, 2008



The thing about Simon is he's creepy, but in such an innocent way that it's almost sweet. The last thing he wants is to do is cause anyone harm, he's just lonely. He's been ignored by others enough in his life that he doesn't understand what's socially acceptable, and he doesn't fully realize that some of the things he does seriously creep others the gently caress out. For instance, when he watches the girls dressing and the second probation worker in her home, he's not getting  off on the thought of his voyeurism, he's more like a curious little boy. He does have manners and refrains from touching them, because violating others isn't his intention. He just doesn't know any better and tries to be intimate in the only way he feels able. You end up feeling sorrier for him than the people he spies on. I think he's got some of the most interesting character development, and he's my favorite for that reason. Plus he just looks like a sad little troll doll and I want to squeeze him.

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

Legal consent is a tad arbitrary really

emuly posted:

For instance, when he watches the girls dressing and the second probation worker in her home, he's not getting  off on the thought of his voyeurism, he's more like a curious little boy. He does have manners and refrains from touching them, because violating others isn't his intention.
he tried to molest a drunken, passed out Kelly in Curtis' time travel episode before he wimped out and left

Bland
Aug 31, 2008


Winner Of The TRP I dont actually remember the contest im pretty high right now here's your venkys tag




RoboCicero posted:

Once again proving that Simon's real superpower is making everyone forget how creepy he was.

I think it's a bit alarming how quickly Simon went from Super Creep to Super Stud, I'm not really a fan of the direction they've taken him.

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jazz babies
Mar 7, 2007



"wot the FOK is brunch?"

God, I missed this show.

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