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Made my first Old Fashioned tonight and it's quite delicious and ended up buying a handle of Makers. Lots of Makers 
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God drat falernum is a weird taste
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Oct 28, 2011 02:26
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Don't drink it straight, I only do that to gently caress with cocktail geek customers Jesus Christ. It's a fantastic mixer, though. Great blend of spice and sweet, pair it with bitter and or astringent like aperol and lime, little soda and an aromatic float, drat. I miss summer.
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Oct 28, 2011 06:46
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I went the other night to Hyde & Co, a brilliant speakeasy-type bar where you have to sit down and be well-dressed to get in (they look through the spyhole and check you out before opening the door). I had a couple of amazing drinks (you can check out the menu on there - I had a rhum conference, a norwegian wood, a Princeton no2 and an old fashioned). What else would you guys check out for the next time I go there? Anyway, there are now 4 places in my city that are the same sort of idea...you have to be smart, knock on a door and they only let you in if there's space to sit. They're generally unmarked and unsigned, and a little bit out of the way. I'm sure there are similar things elsewhere, but I haven't heard of any. It's strange that there are 4 in my relatively small city though, are they popular elsewhere and just not heard of until you know someone that knows them?
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Oct 31, 2011 14:09
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:I went the other night to Hyde & Co, a brilliant speakeasy-type bar where you have to sit down and be well-dressed to get in (they look through the spyhole and check you out before opening the door). I had a couple of amazing drinks (you can check out the menu on there - I had a rhum conference, a norwegian wood, a Princeton no2 and an old fashioned). What else would you guys check out for the next time I go there? This was quite the trend in NYC in the '00s. Milk & Honey, Please Don't Tell, Death & Co., etc. It's actually gotten a little out of hand. Thing is, they proliferate because the latest generation of cocktail makers and drinkers either started in those places or hit their stride in them. I think the aesthetic arises because cocktail drinkers and nerds and such are generally adventurous people; you'd have to be, to look at a bright green liquor that smells like trees and not run screaming back to a vodka soda. That's one of the things I love about my current job; big picture window, nice lamps, artful wainscotting, great liquor and beer selection, and the staff just happens to know and make all the classics and a few house drinks. Only thing that gives us away is the waistcoat.
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Oct 31, 2011 17:34
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Does anyone know (preferably first hand) any really great cocktail bars in London? Where the hell can I find a sazerac?
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Oct 31, 2011 18:03
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Doh004 posted:Made my first Old Fashioned tonight and it's quite delicious and ended up buying a handle of Makers. Lots of Makers That's literally the experience that made me into a religious bourbon drinker. Hangin with my roommate who'd been watching a lot of Mad Men adn he asked if I knew how to make an Old Fashioned. I said I'd do my best and six months later we've got five empty Maker's bottles around the apartment.
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Nov 2, 2011 18:42
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Doh004 posted:Made my first Old Fashioned tonight and it's quite delicious and ended up buying a handle of Makers. Lots of Makers The Triumphant posted:That's literally the experience that made me into a religious bourbon drinker. Hangin with my roommate who'd been watching a lot of Mad Men adn he asked if I knew how to make an Old Fashioned. I said I'd do my best and six months later we've got five empty Maker's bottles around the apartment. We make Manhattans at home a lot and my girlfriend always used Makers. Thanks to one of these whisky threads of the past we tried the often overlooked bottom-shelf Bourbon Evan Williams. Our first take was that it was almost as good, and, since then, I sometimes think I actually prefer it. It's literally half the price of Makers $20 for a half-gallon, compared to $23 for a fifth of Makers. Grab a fifth for $12 some time and try it in your Olde-Fashiouneds; if you don't like it I'm sure you can ditch it at a party or use it when girls want "Jack + Coke".
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Nov 2, 2011 19:16
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I like turtles posted:Ended up going with a 750ml bottle of white rum, 750ml bottle of midori, 2oz of Campari, 4 oz of Blue curacao. Will hit it with some lime juice and soda to bring the volume up/abv down. Is fairly decent right now. Good color too. Sweet side is fine, painfully sweet drinks are popular with most of the expected attendees. lol
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Nov 2, 2011 20:29
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Very Strange Things posted:We make Manhattans at home a lot and my girlfriend always used Makers. Thanks to one of these whisky threads of the past we tried the often overlooked bottom-shelf Bourbon Evan Williams. Our first take was that it was almost as good, and, since then, I sometimes think I actually prefer it. Evan Williams is Kentucky sour mash, like jack daniels, not bourbon. That said, it is also delicious. For your old fashioneds and Manhattans, try going old school and use a rye whiskey.
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Nov 2, 2011 21:14
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Vegetable Melange posted:Evan Williams is Kentucky sour mash, like jack daniels, not bourbon. That said, it is also delicious. For your old fashioneds and Manhattans, try going old school and use a rye whiskey. I am pretty sure that any American sour mash whiskey that's made mostly from corn and aged in new barrels is bourbon. Also, it says bourbon right on the bottle. I bought a bottle of their single barrel bourbon, that costs as much as Makers and I didn't like it as much in a cocktail. It tasted a lot like Jameson's actually, and I enjoyed it with a couple ice cubes. I really want to try rye, but the only rye I've found locally is Jim Beam rye and I assume it sucks. vvvvvvvvvvvv DasNeonLicht posted:You shouldn't judge something without trying it. Jim Beam is a big operation, but it has a reputation for quality. It may not be artisan rye whiskey, but it meets the requirements for "straight rye," so I think you should give it a shot (heh) to give yourself a baseline against which to measure other rye whiskeys. Well, I just found out that Booker's and Knob Creek were Jim Beam products, so I can see your point. Very Strange Things fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Nov 2, 2011 |
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Nov 2, 2011 21:35
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Very Strange Things posted:I really want to try rye, but the only rye I've found locally is Jim Beam rye and I assume it sucks.
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Nov 2, 2011 22:02
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Evan Williams is definitely bourbon. Jack Daniels is Tennessee whiskey, which is distinguished primarily for its charcoal filtration.
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Nov 3, 2011 02:38
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I didn't think Jim Beam rye was that bad, although I haven't had it for a while since my bottle shop actually started wild turkey's rye, which is really nice. speaking of whisk(e)ys, does anyone have any suggestions for good scotch based cocktails? I know the rob roy and rusty nail, but any others you guys can recommend?
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Nov 3, 2011 06:49
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Simpo posted:does anyone have any suggestions for good scotch based cocktails? I've made a couple. Bravo 1oz blended scotch 1.5oz rye .25oz simple syrup 3 drops absinthe Sugar cube garnish -- Le Roi Robert 1oz blended scotch 1oz St. Germain .5oz sweet vermouth 2 dashes Angostura bitters cherry garnish -- Blood and Sand .75oz scotch .75oz Cherry Heering .75oz sweet vermouth 1oz fresh orange juice Flamed orange peel garnish
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Nov 3, 2011 15:41
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angor posted:Does anyone know (preferably first hand) any really great cocktail bars in London? Where the hell can I find a sazerac? Any of these bars will be able to make a competent sazerac even if they arn't on their list. Nightjar 20's speakeasy, utter perfection. Purl I wasn't a huge fan, but I only went for a quiet drink early on a Wednesday so mileage may vary. Cool drinks with dry ice. Mark's Bar good cocktails, excellent bar snacks and the oyster ale is to die for Claridges Bar the best service in town, an utter institution and all are made to feel welcome Dukes Bar ignore the new, crap website, it has the best martinis in town by a long way The American Bar felt a little impersonal but great cocktails and a London classic Rules Bar great wood panelled room, the doorman will let you in, just ask The Coburg Bar Full of Mayfair suits but good cocktails and a nice atmosphere make it a good place for after work drinks The Lonsdale been ages since I have been, but I have a vague recollection of good vesper's and a cool crowd 69 Colebrooke Row well recommended by those that have been. Callooh Callay not been but another well recommended Time out has a good list, here. My fave is the Nightjar but have a real soft spot for Claridges, even if it is expensive! Bourne and Hollingsworth and 69 Colebrooke Row are next on my list to visit.
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Nov 3, 2011 16:38
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Very Strange Things posted:I am pretty sure that any American sour mash whiskey that's made mostly from corn and aged in new barrels is bourbon. Also, it says bourbon right on the bottle. Sazarec's ryes have been getting a lot of good publicity lately, I picked up a bottle at my local store for my first rye experience.
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Nov 3, 2011 17:01
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So I drink a fair amount of beer and wine. I enjoy cocktails a lot, too, but I don't make them at home and I haven't been ordering them when I go out for ages. Now that I'm trying to lose some weight, I have the completely unresearched idea that switching over to cocktails will cut some of those calories, or at least it would give me more options than switching to light beers. Is my thinking mistaken? Is it all about the mixers like I assume? If so, does anyone have any good low-calorie cocktail recipes involving whiskey, burbon, or rum? I could do vodka or tequila if my hand were forced. If it gives a good basis for recommendation, my three favorite cocktails are Manhattans, Sidecars, and Whiskey Ginger Ale.
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Nov 4, 2011 02:04
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feedmyleg posted:So I drink a fair amount of beer and wine. I enjoy cocktails a lot, too, but I don't make them at home and I haven't been ordering them when I go out for ages. Now that I'm trying to lose some weight, I have the completely unresearched idea that switching over to cocktails will cut some of those calories, or at least it would give me more options than switching to light beers. Is my thinking mistaken? Is it all about the mixers like I assume? If so, does anyone have any good low-calorie cocktail recipes involving whiskey, burbon, or rum? I could do vodka or tequila if my hand were forced. If it gives a good basis for recommendation, my three favorite cocktails are Manhattans, Sidecars, and Whiskey Ginger Ale. It would probably cut some of the calories. Sugary mixers are bad, but the problem is, alcohol itself is high in calories so there's no way around that. I'm sure someone can give a better answer, but I believe there's about 60-80 calories in a shot of 80 proof alcohol. So, for a 2.5-3 oz. Manhattan you're looking at 180-240 calories. And seeing how a Manhattan is all booze, that's pretty much as efficient as you can get. Maybe hold the garnish. With beer, you get about 150 calories per beer, plus all of the carbohydrates. Light beer doesn't make much difference, because the calories saved are usually just equivalent to the amount of alcohol removed from the drink. And it makes the beer taste terrible so what the hell is the point. e: Recommendation: Based on your like of the Sidecar, try a Between the Sheets: 1 oz. brandy 1 oz. white rum 1 oz. Cointreau 3/4-1 oz. lemon juice Shaken over ice, strained into a chilled cocktail glass. Garnish with lemon twist. That's a pretty drat efficient and classy alcohol delivery system for you. Very similar to the Sidecar, but a lot smoother. Ernest Hemingway fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Nov 4, 2011 |
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Nov 4, 2011 04:04
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Xarr posted:Any of these bars will be able to make a competent sazerac even if they arn't on their list. I love you so much right now.
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Nov 4, 2011 06:29
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bunnielab posted:Home Depot sells bar accessories, people. Just like they sell car parts and gun parts. Back in high school whenever we were facing down a particularly brutal/busy kegger, we'd run to Wal-Mart and buy one gallon gas cans and bleach-water them out before using them as our keg cups. Fewer refill waits, integrated carrying handle, and if you flip the vent open you have an instant portable beer funnel.
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Nov 4, 2011 08:06
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feedmyleg posted:So I drink a fair amount of beer and wine. I enjoy cocktails a lot, too, but I don't make them at home and I haven't been ordering them when I go out for ages. Now that I'm trying to lose some weight, I have the completely unresearched idea that switching over to cocktails will cut some of those calories, or at least it would give me more options than switching to light beers. Is my thinking mistaken? Is it all about the mixers like I assume? If so, does anyone have any good low-calorie cocktail recipes involving whiskey, burbon, or rum? I could do vodka or tequila if my hand were forced. If it gives a good basis for recommendation, my three favorite cocktails are Manhattans, Sidecars, and Whiskey Ginger Ale.
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Nov 4, 2011 15:46
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Vegetable Melange posted:Evan Williams is Kentucky sour mash, like jack daniels, not bourbon. That said, it is also delicious. For your old fashioneds and Manhattans, try going old school and use a rye whiskey. I really want to use more rye, but I live in NC which means that all liquor stores are state-owned and it's hard to track down stuff that's more out of the mainstream. The only rye I've ever found that's not the fifty-dollar luxury stuff is Wild Turkey or Jim Beam. Hey, question-- if I don't want to spend the twenty bucks needed for a little bottle of Drambuie (which, while I love, is also really badly-designed as the last two bottles I've had would up leaking all over the place and making everything sticky), do you think I could use Wild Turkey Honey and a little splash of something herbal to make a reasonable substitute?
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Nov 4, 2011 16:50
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You'd be better off buying some Famous Grouse, infusing it with some poo poo, and sweetening it with honey. I did not care for the sample bottle I bought of American Honey (I wanted to see if that + bourbon would make a decent Rusty Nail analog that I could call a Golden Spike).
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Nov 4, 2011 22:15
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Better still, lighten up honey with water to the consistency for simple syrup and nic that in; all the honey whisky liquors I've tried are suckingly sweet and under proof. As for abc regulations in north Carolina, when I lived in Pennsylvania, the state was bound by law to order bottles by request; check whether that applies to you as well.
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Nov 5, 2011 01:25
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Vegetable Melange posted:Better still, lighten up honey with water to the consistency for simple syrup and nic that in; all the honey whisky liquors I've tried are suckingly sweet and under proof. I quite like a whisky sour done with a honey syrup instead of simple syrup. Anyone know if it it has a special name?
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Nov 5, 2011 05:23
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Ernest Hemingway posted:1 oz. brandy Is there a cheap line of brandy worth buying for cocktails?
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Nov 5, 2011 07:08
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that Vai sound posted:Is there a cheap line of brandy worth buying for cocktails? I really don't know a whole lot about brandy but St.-Remy VSOP has served me well in the past for sidecars. Or for making Steak au Poivre, which is honestly where most of my brandy goes.
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Nov 5, 2011 14:52
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I've had good luck with the landy vs if you're looking for a handle of brandy to cook with. At home, I roll vsop and up.
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Nov 5, 2011 17:26
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Gautier is a relatively inexpensive VSOP cognac. I prefer Martell, but the place where I used to buy it raised the price from $27.99 to $38.99 in six months. Blows.
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Nov 5, 2011 22:59
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I'm not sure what the weather is doing by you, but here on Long Island it's getting cold. Made this last night and it was very appropriate for fall. Cantil Moon Manhattan 1 1/2oz rye 1/2oz Applejack 1oz apple cider 1/4oz sweet vermouth 1 dash cranberry bitters Stir/strain. Garnish with apple slice(s).
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Nov 6, 2011 15:55
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Had my first actual Dark n Stormy last night (as in with Black Seal). Holy moley.
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Nov 6, 2011 19:34
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Klauser posted:I'm not sure what the weather is doing by you, but here on Long Island it's getting cold. Made this last night and it was very appropriate for fall. Is there any sort of consensus regarding replacing Applejack with Calvados? Laird's is the only producer of Applejack and it's not available where I live. There are a few drinks I'd like to try, but I'm hesitant to go buy some Calvados because I don't know if it's an acceptable substitute.
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Nov 6, 2011 22:18
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Applejack has a spicier, more assertive taste compared the more polished and mellow taste of Calvados. Ted Haigh says that you can always go Calvados -> applejack, and just have a slightly more feisty drink, but applejack -> Calvados can sometimes yield a drink that lacks fire. In the case of the drink Klauser posted I think Calvados would work fine, since the rye is going to give it plenty of spice.
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Nov 6, 2011 23:32
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^^^ Well said. Made another drink that is nice for fall. Trinidad Sour 1oz Angostura bitters 1oz orgeat 3/4oz lemon juice 1/2oz rye Shake/strain.
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Nov 8, 2011 16:16
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Klauser posted:^^^ Well said. That sounds pretty nice. One of these days I'm going to make up a batch of orgeat, one of these days...
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Nov 9, 2011 04:37
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Trinidad Sours are off the hook. They are hella awesome.
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Nov 9, 2011 11:18
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Simpo posted:That sounds pretty nice. One of these days I'm going to make up a batch of orgeat, one of these days... Be careful making your own orgeat, because without adding artificial stabilizers, it won't be shelf stable. My bar made its own orgeat this summer for a Rye Tai (heh), and besides being needlessly complicated, once it breaks it can make you really sick (nut oils go rancid very quickly). Besides, there are some very decent commercial orgeats. One very swank place I worked stocked only trader tiki's orgeat, and it was good stuff (plus it had a very sweet, deep brown color).
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Nov 9, 2011 15:29
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I always keep my homemade orgeat in the fridge and it lasts me a good while without going bad.
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Simpo posted:That sounds pretty nice. One of these days I'm going to make up a batch of orgeat, one of these days... Just buy some. I can't imagine the effort of making it is worth it, especially if a bottle of orgeat is keeping you from making this drink. Kenning posted:Trinidad Sours are off the hook. They are hella awesome. Yeah, so much flavor. Nice and intense, in a good way.
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