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After this episode, I wonder how the internet masses will react to the actions seen in the episode.
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 16:44 |
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Fate/Zero Season two:Our cast is too drat big. Mage Killer indeed. And it's about time Maya really accomplished something beyond surveillance and getting chased around by Kotomine.
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 17:00 |
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Now that we've had a good half a season to introduce and build our characters, it's time for Urobuchi to start really flexing his muscles to bring us to the depths of despair. 
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 17:45 |
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The pacing on this episode wasn't great. There was a lot of stuff jammed into the first 10 minutes so it was hard to get my tension on. That said, the climax and the big speech were ballin'. If these events had taken two episodes (or perhaps if there hadn't been that long break), this would have been pretty drat brutal to watch. Poor Lancer. Seeing him break down like that from the perceived betrayal, particularly after Kayneth had been so cruel. drat heartbreaking. Iri collapsing at the end was also such  moment. You could really sense in her voice, face and body language that the shock and horror of seeing Kiritsugu kill for the first time, and his brutal method for doing so, had shocked and appalled her, and that she was even more enraged that Kiritsugu was being so cruel to Saber as to not even speak to her directly about why he had done it. And yet, even despite this possibly being the most hateful she had ever been toward the man, she still could not bring herself to allow him to see even the slightest weakness or pain on her part, lest she cause him even more suffering or dissuade him from his path. It really cast that whole speech in a slightly different light after the fact.Oh and new thread title: Fate/Zero: A Seal In The Hand Is Worth Two On The Fence WARNING, NON-LIGHT NOVEL PEOPLE DO NOT READ If I had one complaint other than the pacing, its that Diarmurd's curse is a little too prophetic. Surely Urubochi could have foreshadowed without being so direct about it?
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 17:57 |
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Sanguinia posted:The pacing on this episode wasn't great. There was a lot of stuff jammed into the first 10 minutes so it was hard to get my tension on. That said, the climax and the big speech were ballin'. If these events had taken two episodes (or perhaps if there hadn't been that long break), this would have been pretty drat brutal to watch. Poor Lancer. Seeing him break down like that from the perceived betrayal, particularly after Kayneth had been so cruel. drat heartbreaking. While that would be poetic and all, that's not why she collapsed. (Novel spoilers) She collapsed because she's got 3 servants in her and her body is starting to reconfigure itself into the vessel, remember? As for indirect foreshadowing, FZ was written for those that had already played FSN, so there wouldn't be much point in dancing around the subject. Hell, one of the next sequences in the novel is Angra starting to stir.
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 18:00 |
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Sanguinia posted:The pacing on this episode wasn't great. There was a lot of stuff jammed into the first 10 minutes so it was hard to get my tension on. That said, the climax and the big speech were ballin'. If these events had taken two episodes (or perhaps if there hadn't been that long break), this would have been pretty drat brutal to watch. Poor Lancer. Seeing him break down like that from the perceived betrayal, particularly after Kayneth had been so cruel. drat heartbreaking. The LN-TL scene goes like like this: “Unforgivable… I’ll never forgive you! You dead men who are slaved by fame, and desecrated the glory of knights… let my blood stain that dream! I curse the Holy Grail! I curse that your wishes will become disasters! When you fall into the frying pan of hell, do not forget my, Diarmuid’s, anger!”
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 18:10 |
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Rodyle posted:While that would be poetic and all, that's not why she collapsed. I know WHY she collapsed. I was talking about why she REFUSED to collapse until after Kiritsugu had left. Her stuttered question as she falls makes it clear she was holding herself together until he was out of sight.
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 18:14 |
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Sanguinia posted:I know WHY she collapsed. I was talking about why she REFUSED to collapse until after Kiritsugu had left. Her stuttered question as she falls makes it clear she was holding herself together until he was out of sight. Ah, my mistake.
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 18:20 |
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Sanguinia posted:Oh and new thread title: I will only be happy when the thread title is, Fate/Zero: Being Lancer is Suffering. I want Lancer to be playable in Fate/Extra one day, just so that class can finally win.  Although it would be funny if picking Lancer lead to an immediate dead end.While we're talking about the LN, I always really liked the image that lead into Act 11 (the act this episode covers). 
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 18:20 |
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Also just remembered, a proud mage as he is Kayneth is still willing to learn new tricks. I was completely, utterly blind-sighted by the stunt with the revolver. If you can't beat them...
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 18:23 |
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Welp, Saber's hatred for Kiritsugu in F:S/N really is well earned. God drat. All Lancer wanted was to have an honourable fight with Saber! If only he'd had ranks in Battle Continuation...
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 18:43 |
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All of last episode posted:One complaint I had about the series up until now was how Kiritsugu seemed to be all talk. This proved me wrong in the best way possible. 
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 21:12 |
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Well this episode has certainly warmed my heart. How warm should I expect my heart to be by the end of the series?
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 21:54 |
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Level Slide posted:Well this episode has certainly warmed my heart. How warm should I expect my heart to be by the end of the series? I think its safe to say that it'll practically be on fire 
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 22:32 |
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Marin Karin posted:I want Lancer to be playable in Fate/Extra one day, just so that class can finally win.
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| # ? Apr 21, 2012 23:58 |
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Jesus Christ, his eyes! His eyes! 
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 00:14 |
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quote:WARNING, NON-LIGHT NOVEL PEOPLE DO NOT READ If I had one complaint other than the pacing, its that Diarmurd's curse is a little too prophetic. Surely Urubochi could have foreshadowed without being so direct about it? That's a really perfect way for a Celtic hero to go though. It's not a proper Celtic death without tragedy and curses galore.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 00:46 |
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So 4 servants left now right? For those who haven't read the LN who do you think is the next to go?
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 01:04 |
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Aw man, I cracked up sooooooooooooooo hard when Maiya capped Kain-guy and his wife. I had been kinda feeling lukewarm about this show since it came back, but this episode won me over (again). ChronoReverse posted:So 4 servants left now right? For those who haven't read the LN who do you think is the next to go? Even with my superficial knowledge of the franchise, I know Gilgamesh probably won't out-and-out lose. Plus, he's just too smug to die. So I'm going to bet either Berserker or  Rider 
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 01:14 |
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ChronoReverse posted:So 4 servants left now right? For those who haven't read the LN who do you think is the next to go? It doesn't matter quite who, all of the fights from here on out are completely nuts.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 01:44 |
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ChronoReverse posted:So 4 servants left now right? For those who haven't read the LN who do you think is the next to go? Well Saber is the least interesting so she's clearly the best contender to go. Don't correct me on this one.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 02:00 |
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Sanguinia posted:I think its safe to say that it'll practically be on fire Bless Gen Urobuchi and his heart-warming stories.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 02:31 |
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ChronoReverse posted:So 4 servants left now right? For those who haven't read the LN who do you think is the next to go? It's really hard to say... I think Gil will stay around til' the end considering how powerful he is. Berserker is a really strong servant, but his master is in bad shape and makes dumb choices, so he could indeed come next. Rider is very strong... But I could see him finding out what happened with lancer and going after Kiritsugu to avenge lancer, whom he respected, and free saber, whom he seems sympathetic to. Hmmm, I'll put my money on Rider next I guess, but it's really up in the air at this point.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 04:16 |
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Level Slide posted:Well this episode has certainly warmed my heart. How warm should I expect my heart to be by the end of the series? So warm you could fry an egg on it.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 04:45 |
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I'm going to go with Rider, because Berserker seems to have some kind of narrative arc left. I dare not get my hopes up that Rider will go out in some incredibly awesome way, because I know Urobuchi will delight in crushing them.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 07:40 |
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:It's really hard to say... I think Gil will stay around til' the end considering how powerful he is. Wouldn't the fact that Gil even exists in Stay Night clue you in to that?
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 09:23 |
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I dunno, Nasu can do some crazy stuff.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 09:33 |
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Vengarr posted:Jesus Christ, his eyes! His eyes! Yeah, was that unique to him or do all Servants do that? (Or is this foreshadowing?!)
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 09:36 |
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blastron posted:Yeah, was that unique to him or do all Servants do that? (Or is this foreshadowing?!) I have no idea. The eyes bit isn't in the LN, but there is a bit about him changing to look like a demon because of his anger, so that may just have been how they animated it.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 10:18 |
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DerLeo posted:I have no idea. The eyes bit isn't in the LN, but there is a bit about him changing to look like a demon because of his anger, so that may just have been how they animated it. I like to think of it as the grail possessing him at the time. Then again, I don't know if it is expected at this point.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 11:45 |
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 Jesus christ! I thought things were going CALM DOWN after Caster getting nuked. In the 5 second between Sola's arm falling off and the cut over to Maiya, I had about a half-dozen ideas on why that happened...none of which included Maiya coming out of gently caress-nowhere. Oh, and I seriously approve the new thread title being Fate/Zero: A seal on the hand is worth two on the fence. But, what is supposed to happen if there is no judge? Anarchy is fun. Plus, I'm guessing the countdown before the credits is a timer, so all of this poo poo wraps up in a little over 3 days? That just seems amazingly quick, in my opinion.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 12:41 |
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Fuck'em all!
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AlternateNu posted:But, what is supposed to happen if there is no judge? Anarchy is fun.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 12:43 |
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Waffleman_ posted:Wouldn't the fact that Gil even exists in Stay Night clue you in to that? Well, yeah, obviously. But I'm trying to think about this from the perspective of someone who hasn't played FSN.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 13:02 |
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Factor_VIII posted:It's fine; the church has a second priest in the city. You mean a former master, priest? gently caress that noise.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 13:16 |
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AlternateNu posted:But, what is supposed to happen if there is no judge? Anarchy is fun. Plus, I'm guessing the countdown before the credits is a timer, so all of this poo poo wraps up in a little over 3 days? That just seems amazingly quick, in my opinion. It's a timer, and yeah, stuff really gets moving.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 14:00 |
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AlternateNu posted:But, what is supposed to happen if there is no judge? Anarchy is fun. Plus, I'm guessing the countdown before the credits is a timer, so all of this poo poo wraps up in a little over 3 days? That just seems amazingly quick, in my opinion. Yeah, I believe the timer was also present in the light novel.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 16:28 |
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Goddamn. loving brutal, Kiritsugu is merciless. "Not me, anyway". He's becoming more of a villain than a hero now, Saber pretty much nailed him and he couldn't even bother to respond? What an rear end in a top hat. I think Urobuchi might've been better off just retconning the whole "He never spoke to me except 3 times" thing Saber mentions in FSN, cause trying to stick with it makes scenes like that one kinda awkward, probably would've been better if they could tee off at each other. Also Maiya must have a loving sharp knife to slice through an arm in one swing.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 17:05 |
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What the gently caress Kiritsugu, that has got to be in the top five most brutal scenes of all time.  I was thinking "I know the loophole to this, but they wouldn't actually do it would they? And they did. But I'm just paranoid and inclined to that sort of thinking." What was the track playing during that fight there? Can anyone link it?
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 18:30 |
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I kind rolled my eyes a bit at Saber intentionally not using her left hand. If I were Kiritsugu, I'd be pretty irritated at her as well.
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| # ? Apr 22, 2012 18:33 |
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Nate RFB posted:I kind rolled my eyes a bit at Saber intentionally not using her left hand. If I were Kiritsugu, I'd be pretty irritated at her as well. I find it interesting how there are some significant differences in Saber's personality in this show as opposed to her in FSN. I haven't read the novels so I don't know if it was done on purpose, but this episode and 11 make me think that Urobuchi is clearly setting Saber up for some sort of mental trauma. Or I could be totally wrong, I can't know for sure!
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