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WouldDesk
Dec 26, 2009


Slotducks posted:

Pretty much this. I used to be a daily listener of Carolla. Now I can barely make it through one a month or something. His rants run down to this:

Fiesta mix
Peanut Allergies
Cops
Red Lights
Chicken poo poo tickets
Stupid people
his wife
his children
Donny
his nanny
season 5 of the man show



What am I missing? Can't be too much.


Molly, his drat dog Molly that nobody gives a poo poo about.

I am about to listen to his new podcast with Michael Moore... should be OK.

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Ez
Mar 26, 2007

Drink! Feck! Arse! Girls!


Personally I have no problem with Carolla's racial and political humor. The only thing I have a real problem with is that in 2011 he's doing the exact same rants on hospital gowns and slow drivers that he was doing on Loveline in 2001. Then when he refers to himself as "a comedy factory not a comedy warehouse" my eyes roll so hard they break the sound barrier.

Adam is still really quick and funny though and his one on one interviews are always fantastic.

WouldDesk
Dec 26, 2009


Ez posted:

Personally I have no problem with Carolla's racial and political humor. The only thing I have a real problem with is that in 2011 he's doing the exact same rants on hospital gowns and slow drivers that he was doing on Loveline in 2001. Then when he refers to himself as "a comedy factory not a comedy warehouse" my eyes roll so hard they break the sound barrier.

Adam is still really quick and funny though and his one on one interviews are always fantastic.

I posyed this in the Loveline thread but Adam was on Dr Drews new show on the CW channel and it was hilarious. 20 minutes of hilariousness without rants.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inter arma enim silent leges


Chimneyfish posted:

I have a hard time understanding how somebody can become a fan of the person who wrote the jokes for shows like The Man Show and Crank Yankers and then turn around and claim to no longer be a fan due to his "repugnant and bigoted" podcast in which he talks about his dog and kids in between interviews with Jane Goodall. How can you find him more offensive now than you did in the past?

Because I don't think Adam Carolla believed the retarded poo poo he said and portrayed on those shows. I do think he believes the retarded poo poo he says about taxes, non-hetero people, non-white people, welfare, etc.

Bruce Leroy
Jun 10, 2010


Chimneyfish posted:

I have a hard time understanding how somebody can become a fan of the person who wrote the jokes for shows like The Man Show and Crank Yankers and then turn around and claim to no longer be a fan due to his "repugnant and bigoted" podcast in which he talks about his dog and kids in between interviews with Jane Goodall. How can you find him more offensive now than you did in the past?

I would understand criticizing him for getting too soft or straying too far away from the type of humor that made him famous, as is common in the Howard Stern thread. I don't understand the people in this thread saying that the reason they don't like him anymore is because of his crude political and social ranting. At what point in his career did you think he was funny, then? That is who Adam Carolla is. I mean, the guy's first appearance in show business was playing a racist shop teacher character on the radio.

The point is that it used to be about the humor first and wasn't really much of a soap box for his personal opinions or just general whining about things he dislikes.

Honestly, you could take those comments he made about LGBTQ people and attribute them to Rush Limbaugh and no one would call you out for false attribution. What I mean by this is that the political and social positions (which are really just a rich white guy complaining about the attention and movements for acceptance for an oppressed group) are the primary focus with humor as more of an afterthought to keep it snarky and interesting to the people already sympathetic to the social and political views. This is basically the Rush Limbaugh or maybe Mancow format and there's a reason why people criticize it.

Majorian posted:

Because I don't think Adam Carolla believed the retarded poo poo he said and portrayed on those shows. I do think he believes the retarded poo poo he says about taxes, non-hetero people, non-white people, welfare, etc.

That, too. I basically thought he was doing it for laughs, albeit cringe laughs, kind of like many stand-up comedians who will do offensive jokes for laughs without it having much bearing on their personal beliefs.

WouldDesk posted:

I posyed this in the Loveline thread but Adam was on Dr Drews new show on the CW channel and it was hilarious. 20 minutes of hilariousness without rants.

This leads me to my hypothesis that he needs Dr. Drew as his straight man to be funny. Drew is such a kind, empathetic, and intelligent guy that I don't think he'd really let Adam get away with those rants without calling him out on it, not from a polemical perspective, but from a position of calm, rational analysis.

Bruce Leroy fucked around with this message at Sep 28, 2011 around 07:40

DangerDummy!
Jul 6, 2009


Bruce Leroy posted:

This leads me to my hypothesis that he needs Dr. Drew as his straight man to be funny. Drew is such a kind, empathetic, and intelligent guy that I don't think he'd really let Adam get away with those rants without calling him out on it, not from a polemical perspective, but from a position of calm, rational analysis.

I like Drew as ballast for Adam's goofy poo poo, but all the goddamn rehab poo poo he's been doing on VH1 has kind of soured me on him a little. I think once you dip your toe in the reality TV pool, especially for something as creepy as that, the moral high-ground routine holds less water.

I don't think he's a bad guy or anything, but when you're drawing paychecks off of airing some dude who was famous on television 30 years ago rolling around on the floor screaming and crying from withdrawals, you take a hit in the credibility column.

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LGBTQ

That's one more letter than I'm accustomed to seeing. What does the "Q" stand for?

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Bruce Leroy
Jun 10, 2010


DangerDummy! posted:

I like Drew as ballast for Adam's goofy poo poo, but all the goddamn rehab poo poo he's been doing on VH1 has kind of soured me on him a little. I think once you dip your toe in the reality TV pool, especially for something as creepy as that, the moral high-ground routine holds less water.

I don't think he's a bad guy or anything, but when you're drawing paychecks off of airing some dude who was famous on television 30 years ago rolling around on the floor screaming and crying from withdrawals, you take a hit in the credibility column.

Yeah, I could only stomach a few minutes of that kind of stuff, but I think it comes from a good place. I think Drew wants to destigmatize mental illness and substance abuse by showing that even famous and accomplished people can have problems, thus allowing the average person to not feel so alone and overwhelmed by their problems and be more inclined to seek help.

What probably happened is that the producers of those shows don't give a gently caress about that highminded stuff and just want the juiciest poo poo possible to attract the gawkers like it's a car wreck on the side of the road.

DangerDummy! posted:

That's one more letter than I'm accustomed to seeing. What does the "Q" stand for?

It stands for "questioning" or "queer." Basically it got added on because sexuality isn't a binary quality where you're homosexual or heterosexual, or even 50/50 bisexual, it's a continuum.

E.g. someone who was otherwise predominately heterosexual might have significant, non-incidental homosexual experiences in their life, or vice versa for a predominately homosexual person having significant heterosexual experiences, but it's not the "half and half" combination people normally attribute to bisexuality. This makes it difficult to categorize them via the typical LGBT framework, so some people add a Q on the end.

http://www.darcomic.org/2009/12/29/theend/

Larry Craig, that Republican congressman, who was playing footsy in an airport bathroom, is probably an example of this. Sure, he was trolling for gay sex in a public bathroom, but he may not be exclusively gay, as he claims, though he is definitely not exclusively heterosexual.

Bruce Leroy fucked around with this message at Sep 28, 2011 around 08:48

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

When the goin' gets tough, the mustache gets goin'


Today's show is a live one from the Ontario Improv, with Dana Gould and Dave Koechner. The live shows can go either way, but I usually find them pretty good, and Dana Gould always brings it, so this one should be solid.

Ez
Mar 26, 2007

Drink! Feck! Arse! Girls!


Just listened to the live show with Dana Gould and Koechner. Great show. The only thing I don't like about live episodes is that the audience doesn't seem too into it a lot of times, but maybe the recording just doesn't pick it up.

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

When the goin' gets tough, the mustache gets goin'


I was wondering about that too, it seemed strangely quiet, I noticed starting with the applause at the beginning. You could hear it so you know it's there, but it didn't seem to come across through the mics very well. The sound was a bit weird at the beginning and Carolla mentions something about wireless mics, so maybe they had different gear than normal.

Dana Gould and Carolla reenacting a Valtrex commercial was pretty amazing. I wish I could have seen that one because there was some visual stuff in there.

RightClickSaveAs fucked around with this message at Sep 28, 2011 around 23:38

ChaosMonkey
Jun 28, 2008


I'm glad to hear today's episode picks up--as I'm sure it would thanks to Dana Gould, who is always fantastic--because I have been listening off and on throughout the day and the segment with Josh Gardner is grueling and unfunny.


As far as other podcasts on the network go, you can't go wrong with listening to Larry Miller talk for half an hour. That dude is delightful.

Ez
Mar 26, 2007

Drink! Feck! Arse! Girls!


ChaosMonkey posted:

I'm glad to hear today's episode picks up--as I'm sure it would thanks to Dana Gould, who is always fantastic--because I have been listening off and on throughout the day and the segment with Josh Gardner is grueling and unfunny.

Yeah, Josh Gardner was pretty unfunny. Fortunately though he only did 2 songs and left. I wasn't in the mood to hear any more parody songs written only for shock value. I wish more people knew how funny Gould and Koechner are. Just really talented and smart guys with great timing.

ChaosMonkey
Jun 28, 2008


Ez posted:

I wish more people knew how funny Gould and Koechner are. Just really talented and smart guys with great timing.

I don't think I'll ever get tired of Gould's Huell Howser stuff. I recall his final appearance on Carolla's morning show being particularly dark and terrible.

I could also listen to him talk about KISS MEETS THE PHANTOM OF THE PARK all day long.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inter arma enim silent leges


ChaosMonkey posted:

I don't think I'll ever get tired of Gould's Huell Howser stuff. I recall his final appearance on Carolla's morning show being particularly dark and terrible.

The darker the better. The sheer Buffalo Bill-esqueness of Dana's Huell is why he'll always be better at it than James Adomian, in my opinion.

*demonic voice* "CALIFORNIA'S FULL OF WONDER!!!"

visuvius
Sep 24, 2007
sta da moor

If you do not support transgendered people in every way possible you are literally walking scum.

Carolla is great and his opinions are generally super pragmatic, logical and straightforward. Yes he does repeat stuff but if you're one of those who listen to him every day, there are always random nuggets of comedy woven throughout the podcast. I guess I've just gotten used to his nasally drone. I kind of just appreciate his "gently caress everything/who cares you dramatic whores" vibe.

Also, the deaf frat guy was probably the single greatest thing on any type of show, radio, podcast, whatever. I loving miss that segment so much.

visuvius fucked around with this message at Sep 30, 2011 around 23:46

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

When the goin' gets tough, the mustache gets goin'


Today's show was a live one with Marc Maron and it was unsurprisingly quite good. Maron is another of my favorite podcast guys, and is one of those people who can actually compete with Carolla for mic time. Towards the end they swap stories about tripping on mushrooms.

What Fun
Jul 21, 2007

~P*R*I*D*E~

visuvius posted:

If you do not support transgendered people in every way possible you are literally walking scum.

Carolla is great and his opinions are generally super pragmatic, logical and straightforward. Yes he does repeat stuff but if you're one of those who listen to him every day, there are always random nuggets of comedy woven throughout the podcast. I guess I've just gotten used to his nasally drone. I kind of just appreciate his "gently caress everything/who cares you dramatic whores" vibe.

Also, the deaf frat guy was probably the single greatest thing on any type of show, radio, podcast, whatever. I loving miss that segment so much.

"I felt hA-Peenus in my mouth."

There are a lot of criticisms you could make about Adam Carolla, but he puts out an hour and a half of material every weekday and I listen to almost every one because I find it generally funny. I don't care about his personal politics, I take what I like and ignore the rest. Best free dollars I've ever spent, I'd see him live if he came to the East Coast more than once a year.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inter arma enim silent leges


visuvius posted:

If you do not support transgendered people in every way possible you are literally walking scum.

I know, how unreasonable of people wanting him not to treat transgender people like they're mentally ill or transgender by choice. Clearly that equals "support[ing] transgendered people in every way possible."

Ez
Mar 26, 2007

Drink! Feck! Arse! Girls!


What if my arm were possessed blah blah blah...

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008



I didn't take his rant as being homophobic. Part of his schtick is being patriarchal and it came across to me more as "who gives a poo poo?". And some of his more famous rants are about how gay people are better than straight people. He's a supporter of gay marriage and has bashed those against it on his podcast.

He's a comedian. They stereotype groups and make jokes at their expense. We aren't supposed to listen to a stand-up make a joke about women or an ethnicity and carry it into our own life. That's his gimmick, to be the "man's man". I don't think he's a racist or homophobe in real life, it was just an opportunity for a group to get some attention.

As for his podcast, it's hit or miss. He really works better with a co-host or good guest. I liked his earlier stuff when he would have people like Kimmel, Simmons, Aisha Tyler, Joel Mchale, etc on. Alison Rosen isn't bad, but I think it needs a stronger voice in the #2 spot. She does seem to be getting better though.

I don't like the format though. It comes across kind of awkward and forced a lot. The earlier ones seemed more natural with just two people sitting around together shooting the poo poo. Trying to make it more like radio (with their bits and segments) seems to kill that open ended aspect that made the show fun. I understand they have to do that stuff, but I wish it was integrated better. If a show an interview is going well, have it be the entire hour instead of forcing some game into it.

UltraRed
Apr 9, 2005

red balloons + sunshine

I like Rosen much more than Strausser. The later drove me nuts.

Strausser was a girly girl who tried to be one of the guys and always failed to fit in. Rosen is a girly girl and seems comfortable in her own skin. Plus she's not named after a Nazi. Not sure how much that matters, but that's there.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inter arma enim silent leges


Niwrad posted:

I didn't take his rant as being homophobic. Part of his schtick is being patriarchal and it came across to me more as "who gives a poo poo?".

Really? I thought the whole "what if I thought my arm was possessed" analogy that he's used several times on a lot of his shows to suggest that transgender people are flat-out crazy, kind of implies that he doesn't really respect them. And I'm a little doubtful that he supports gay marriage; last I heard, he was making some sort of retarded "We as a society need to be able to draw the line between what we will and won't permit" argument against it.

Look, I get that he's a comedian and not a politician. Glenn Beck says the same thing about himself. It doesn't change the fact that their words affect the perceptions of their listeners and help spread ignorance. I also get that a lot of you just want to post about how much you like the podcast in this thread, and if that's the case, please feel free to ignore my and any other critical posts. But this is a discussion thread, and part of having a discussion about something is leaving room for criticisms. I used to be a listener and a fan, and while I'm not asking for Adam to stop making ignorant statements or heavy-handed judgments entirely (because I get that's part of the fun with him), I do wish he would return to a greater "insightful comment" to "bigoted comment" ratio, like he had on Loveline.

lynch_69
Jan 21, 2001

What say you, have we your blessing?

Majorian posted:

I used to be a listener and a fan, and while I'm not asking for Adam to stop making ignorant statements or heavy-handed judgments entirely (because I get that's part of the fun with him), I do wish he would return to a greater "insightful comment" to "bigoted comment" ratio, like he had on Loveline.

I'm in the same boat as you. I used to be a huge Adam Carolla fan back from when he was on radio, and was with him all the way when he started his podcast. But somewhere after the tenth anti-Mexican, anti-gay, pro-rich people rant I had to ask myself "why am I listening to this poo poo?" and simply stopped.

There's something wonderful about having a multi-millionaire with a two story garage filled with Ferraris talking down to me and telling me "how the real world works". gently caress that, life's too short and there are so many other podcasts out there.

Jay Dub
Jul 27, 2009

Ooh La La?
OOH LA LA?!



ChaosMonkey posted:

As far as other podcasts on the network go, you can't go wrong with listening to Larry Miller talk for half an hour. That dude is delightful.

Agreed. I love This Week with Larry Miller. Hate to admit it, but I'm not too familiar with Miller's standup. I've seen him in movies and TV shows a lot, though, and he's just got a fun presence about him.

Any time they do the Road Trip game on Adam's show, that little sound bite of Larry screaming "WE'RE DRIVING TO FLORIDAAA!" gets me every goddamn time.

Bruce Leroy
Jun 10, 2010


Jay Dub posted:

Agreed. I love This Week with Larry Miller. Hate to admit it, but I'm not too familiar with Miller's standup. I've seen him in movies and TV shows a lot, though, and he's just got a fun presence about him.

Any time they do the Road Trip game on Adam's show, that little sound bite of Larry screaming "WE'RE DRIVING TO FLORIDAAA!" gets me every goddamn time.

Larry Miller always strikes me as a good stand-up who just never really hit it big with audiences, but is very well-respected by and personal friends with most other stand-ups and other professionals in comedy.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

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Bruce Leroy posted:

Larry Miller always strikes me as a good stand-up who just never really hit it big with audiences, but is very well-respected by and personal friends with most other stand-ups and other professionals in comedy.

To be fair, Larry's had a pretty long career as a comic, and I think he was a bigger hit with audiences in the 80's (although I don't have any evidence to back that up in the slightest). I've always kind of grouped him with people like Kevin Pollak, who did really well in previous decades, still pull in a tidy sum from their standup acts, but are best-known as character actors in lots of movies. I agree with what you're saying, though - comedy nerds and other comics swear by him, while most other don't know who he is.

I just resubscribed to his podcast; I had listened to the first few episodes of it, and found it funny but not something I'd really listen to on a regular basis. I've caught a couple more recent episodes, though, and enjoy them much more.

Parenthetically, did anyone else listen to Teresa Strasser on "The Mental Health Happy Hour"? I thought it was a really interesting interview, and I was kind of surprised with how funny and confident she was. I always liked her on Adam's shows, but I would have liked her (and the shows) a lot more if she had been like this.

Majorian fucked around with this message at Oct 5, 2011 around 19:34

chemosh6969
Jul 3, 2004
Walker...is a dangerous man..! Lee Marvin IS Walker, in Point Blank!

Majorian posted:

The first time he had Andrew Breitbart on (last November, I want to say?) was when I finally unsubscribed from his podcast.

I found his rants to be funny in how retarded a lot of them were. The thing that made me stop listening was back when he started doing podcasts that were basically infomercials for Ford and organic foods. No comedy, no rants, just interviews with the company and letting them sell their product while he does the infomercial host job of saying how great the product is.

I like following the thread because then I know I'm not missing anything new, other than a new format. He has finally given up on the idea of charging for the podcast, right? I remember him always bringing it up with other guys that have seen it doesn't work and kills off listeners but then he would keep saying it was a good idea days later.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

brb, shortcut

He had Leo Laporte on for like podcast #2, and was like "so how does the pay for podcasting thing work out?" Leo was very realistic in explaining on how it isn't feasible to reach out to an audience like that and won't give him the return that he wanted. Adam's response? "I'm going to do it anyway."

That said, it was the best sounding Adam Carolla Podcast ever. He has a loving boner for those loving god awful clip-on wireless microphones.

ChaosMonkey
Jun 28, 2008


Majorian posted:

Parenthetically, did anyone else listen to Teresa Strasser on "The Mental Health Happy Hour"? I thought it was a really interesting interview, and I was kind of surprised with how funny and confident she was. I always liked her on Adam's shows, but I would have liked her (and the shows) a lot more if she had been like this.

"Mental Illness Happy Hour." Subtle distinction :P

I've been a fan of Paul Gilmartin since hearing him on Bob and Tom back in the mid-1990s and, like a lot of comedians, he kinda floated in and out of my mind over the decade and change. I knew he hosted DINNER AND A MOVIE but since I haven't had cable in about 18 years I never caught him on there. I was super stoked when he showed up on Carolla's podcast and very glad to check out his podcast once I found out about. What I didn't know was that he's, you know, a recovering alcoholic and depressed and all that business. But it makes for a great and interesting podcast and years of Loveline have left me inclined to enjoy listening to people climbing out of the wreckage of their lives and doing well for themselves.

So, yeah, anyone that liked T should give her appearance on there a listen. (I always liked her.)

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RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

When the goin' gets tough, the mustache gets goin'


Phone posted:

He had Leo Laporte on for like podcast #2, and was like "so how does the pay for podcasting thing work out?" Leo was very realistic in explaining on how it isn't feasible to reach out to an audience like that and won't give him the return that he wanted. Adam's response? "I'm going to do it anyway."

That said, it was the best sounding Adam Carolla Podcast ever. He has a loving boner for those loving god awful clip-on wireless microphones.
I think I remember that episode, didn't Leo Laporte end up sending them his recording of the audio to use for the podcast because theirs was so terrible? Carolla and his team (really just Donny back then I think) barely had any idea what they were doing at that point. They just had some kind of generic website at the time, while Laporte is sitting there with laptops and recording devices spread out all over the place. I got a kick out of hearing him pull up the source for their website while they were talking and go "oh yeah, looks like you're going with the basic WordPress template...".

I'm so glad the sponsors deal worked out for them and they didn't go the pay route, they must have realized early on what a terrible idea that was. The live reads and stuff don't bother me at all, but I just couldn't justify paying for a podcast, as much as I enjoy having his nasally drone in my ear every day.

hiddenmovement
Sep 29, 2011

by T. Finninho


If Sarah Silverman stopped being funny, I'd regard her schtick as vile and tired and would feel a little disgusted by it. Adam stopped being funny, and now instead of laughing, I get to sit and think about what this angry retard is saying.

I've always thought of Adam as a bit of a stinkyhole. Didn't bother me on loveline because he entertained me. Now I can't enjoy that luxury. One day, Jeremy Clarkson will stop entertaining me, and I'll be left with nothing but an impossibly pompous, arrogant, climate change denying, dried up old right wing tool. And I'll have nothing nice to say about that prick either.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



I don't mind most of the various conservative rants. I just skip by them and don't care.

But it really bothers me when he attacks school lunch discount programs as if kids would rather go hungry than deal with the shame of having parents who can't afford poo poo.

The other one that bugs me is the way he supports the death penalty because it's a non-argument responding to a non-argument.
"You don't want to live in a country where we execute criminals? Well I don't want to live in a country WHERE WE DON'T! SO THERE!"

That said, the podcast is still super enjoyable with the right guest or a long interview.

My love affair with Ace started to fall apart in 2006 or 2007 when he explained to a caller on the morning show that he wanted to create a bunch of bits so he could produce a show by filling segments. Bryan Callan is right and Adam is a genius when he's just bullshitting. I'm an avid listener of all his appearances on other shows because he's liberated from the terrible format he's created for himself.


e: Forgot to mention the John Doe podcast was amazing.

UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at Oct 7, 2011 around 08:41

Ez
Mar 26, 2007

Drink! Feck! Arse! Girls!


Has anyone here ever listened to The Parent Experiment? I've never heard it but it bugs me that two women with millions of dollars, a nanny, and a housekeeper have a podcast about the difficulties of raising children.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Ez posted:

Has anyone here ever listened to The Parent Experiment? I've never heard it but it bugs me that two women with millions of dollars, a nanny, and a housekeeper have a podcast about the difficulties of raising children.
I love Lynette but the content sucks.

One of many baffling things about ACE Network is that they haven't made use of Lynette in a way that Adam's fans care about.

I would love for Giovanni to interview her or at least create a notecard full of stories for her and Adam to talk about.

jyrka
Jan 21, 2005


Potato Count: 2 small potatoes


UltimoDragonQuest posted:

One of many baffling things about ACE Network is that they haven't made use of Lynette in a way that Adam's fans care about.


What? You mean sexually?

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

When the goin' gets tough, the mustache gets goin'


Hell yeah, Adam's main man and one black friend David Alan Grier is back on the show today. It's been a long time.

moleman
Apr 26, 2003

Now the time has come to gather our forces and run.

I would totally be up for "David and Adam's Retro Titty Bar".

visuvius
Sep 24, 2007
sta da moor

I'm not a huge DAG fan but today's episode was actually pretty great. Caller calling DAG out on his movie career was great.

Ez
Mar 26, 2007

Drink! Feck! Arse! Girls!


"Hey DAG, how's our friendship?"
"It's, it's good"

"Hey DAG, how's your cured lamb.
"Oh, um... It's, it's pretty good"

"Hey DAG, how's your film career?"

Ahahahahaha! Who would have thought that a caller would have the best line of the episode?

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WouldDesk
Dec 26, 2009


RightClickSaveAs posted:

Hell yeah, Adam's main man and one black friend David Alan Grier

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