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Dead Man Posting
Sep 1, 2008





Can't get enough talking about this awesome game? We made a Steam group for Fallout fans that are goons called Fallout Goons (FOGoons) . We made this as an alternative to the now-defunct #fnvgoons IRC-channel.

News:

Rinkles posted:

STEP RIGHT UP, GET YOUR FREE FALLOUT (1997) RIGHT HERE! (gog.com)





Developer: Obsidian Entertainment, Bethesda Game Studios (Patches)
Publisher: Bethesda Softworks (US, UK, JP); Namco Bandai (EU, AU, NZ); 1C/Cenega (PL, RU, CZ)
Designers: Josh Sawyer (Project Director), John Gonzalez (Creative Lead), Chris Avellone, Eric Fenstermaker, Travis Stout (Writers)
Composers: Inon Zur & Mark Morgan
Engine: Gamebryo
Platforms: Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360
Release dates: NA October 19, 2010; AUS October 21, 2010; EU October 22, 2010

Purchase Fallout: New Vegas retail versions.

Note: Since the PC version is a Steamworks title, you will need to authenticate the game with Steam and tie it to a Steam account. You can purchase it digitally by clicking to go to the official Steam store page of Fallout: New Vegas.





Fallout: New Vegas takes place during the year 2281, four years after the events of Fallout 3, and 204 years after the Great War of 2077, making this installment chronologically the latest in the series thus far. The game is set in post-apocalyptic Las Vegas, Nevada, and the Mojave Desert, which is known as the "Mojave Wasteland." The Mojave Wasteland is roughly the same size as the "Capital Wasteland" in Fallout 3, and is spread across parts of real-world Nevada and Arizona. Part of Fallout and Fallout 2's Core Region also appears in the form of California. Unlike other cities in the Fallout series, Las Vegas was not struck directly by a nuclear attack. Its buildings remain intact, and mutation of its inhabitants is minimal.

The city and its surroundings are divided between various factions, but there are three major powers competing for control of the region: The New California Republic (NCR), Caesar's Legion, and Mr. House. The NCR's military, returning from Fallout 2, is now bloated and mismanaged, but controls the majority of territories in the Mojave. The slave-driving, Roman Army-styled Caesar's Legion, formed by its leader, Caesar, conquered and united 86 tribes and now plans to conquer New Vegas. Mr. House, the mysterious businessman rumoured to be 200 years old, controls New Vegas with an army of "Securitron" security robots. There are many other factions and groups as well, including the Boomers, a tribe of heavily armed vault dwellers, Powder Gangers, violent groups of escaped convicts, Great Khans, a tribe of drug dealers and raiders from Fallout, and the Brotherhood of Steel, the technology-craving remnants of the U.S. military. Landmarks featured in Fallout: New Vegas include the Hoover Dam, which supplies power to the city, Nellis Air Force Base and the HELIOS One solar energy plant.

The game places the player in the role of a courier working for the Mojave Express, known simply as "the Courier." While delivering a package with a platinum poker chip to New Vegas, the courier is ambushed by Benny, leader of one of the casinos (voiced by Matthew Perry) in New Vegas, who steals the package, shoots the player in the head, and leaves the body in a shallow grave. A robot named Victor witnesses the shooting and brings the courier to Doctor Mitchell in Goodsprings. At this point, the player enters into character creation and defines the Courier's skills, attributes, name, gender, age and appearance. Although traumatized, the player begins his journey, following Benny to avenge the attack and recover the stolen package, all while exploring the Mojave Wasteland.





Reputation
The reputation system from Fallout 2 returns, with some improvements. While you still have karma, people can't magically detect whether you are good or evil, and instead you'll have a reputation with each faction and community that depends on how much you help them or piss them off.

More Interesting Companions
Companions have far more dialogue and will actually have stuff to say as you progress through the game, rather than just being pack mules with guns. They are easier to order around thanks to a new "Companion Wheel" interface which lets you quickly change their weapons or equipment or behaviour. Companions have special skills and grant you special perks while they are with you. Each companion now has a unique quest, a bit like Mass Effect 2's loyalty missions, and helping them accomplish their missions will grant special perks.

Crafting
As well as unique weapons, you can also craft chems and food, and use spent casings and powder to craft bullets. You can also use science skill to recycle energy weapon ammunition.

Weapon Overhaul
Big Guns skill no longer exists, but strength requirements from Fallout 1 and 2 are back; to use a minigun you need to be built like Schwarzenegger but you don't need special training in them.

Most guns now have true iron sights aiming (rather than the camera simply zooming in a bit). New Vegas has twice the number of weapons as in Fallout 3, and there are now different types of ammunition, like armour-piercing bullets or overcharged energy cells. Unique weapons have unique appearences rather than just different stats. Non-unique weapons can be modified with scopes, extended magazines, silencers, etc.

Armour Overhaul
A Mr. Gutsy or Sentry Bot is as tough as a Dalek. Robots and guys in power armour are practically bullet proof, as armour has damage threshold, similar to the system in the old Fallout games. If a weapon's damage per bullet is lower than this threshold it will not penetrate and do only a tiny fraction of the normal damage. Energy weapons tend to have high damage rather than damage per second and are thus well suited; you can also use special armour piercing bullets.

Animations and Third Person View
Animations have been overhauled so that they no longer look like poo poo. Especially noticable are the excellent animations when you shoot someone and they are reeling in pain. Also the camera angle of the third person view has been altered for a slightly better experience. (It's still seems a bit awkward, though.)

Disguises
You can wear the clothing or armour of an enemy faction and blend in if you don't draw attention to yourself. Watch out for dogs or elite officers, though, they won't be fooled.

Perks and Traits
You now get perks at every other level, so you have to choose a bit more carefully. At the start of the game you also have the option to choose Traits. These were in the old 90s games. Traits are kind of like perks, but each positive aspect is balanced by some negative aspect. There's also a special trait, Wild Wasteland, which enables wacky pop culture references and easter eggs. One or two references to stuff on these forums have been confirmed!

Hardcore Mode
Hardcore mode, when enabled, does the following:

  • You have to sleep.
  • You have to eat and drink.
  • Lack of hydration/sleep will sometimes make fast travel impossible
  • Stimpaks heal slowly over time.
  • You need a doctor, or doctor’s bag to heal crippled limbs.
  • Ammunition has weight.
  • Companions experience perma-death.

An option mode that is seperate from the normal difficulty setting, you can switch this on or off at any time. There is an achievement for playing through the entire game in hardcore mode.





The game has a lot of factions that are related to the outcome of the main quest, but there are three major factions that are prevalent in the game. These three are the New Californian Republic, Caesar's Legion, and Mr. House.

New Californian Republic (NCR)
The NCR stands for democracy, freedom and fairness, along with other old-world values from the United States. They currently have the advantage in the Mojave, as they control the Hoover Dam. However, they are stretched too thin, and their notorious bureaucracy has led to them becoming ever more ineffectual.



Caesar's Legion
Ceasar's Legion is a growing force that has been conquering and enslaving its way across the east. Their leader has based their clothing, tactics, laws and way of life on the Roman Empire. Caesar believes that the Old World failed because of the same philosophies, tactics, and ideologies that America had before the war.



Mr. House
Mr. House runs the New Vegas strip of casinos and hotels. He is a recluse, like Howard Hughes, never seeing anyone in person. This is apparent when the Courier finds out that House communicates via computer terimals. So far, he's kept the Strip under his own control, thanks to his army of Securiton robots. He wants to stop NCR or the Legion taking over, but does he perhaps have another agenda?



Dead Man Posting fucked around with this message at Apr 7, 2012 around 00:34

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Sep 1, 2008







Dead Money involves working alongside three non-player characters to find the treasure of the Sierra Madre Casino and adds new achievements, perks, terrain, enemies and decisions for the player, as well as adding 5 levels to the level cap. It was released on December 21, 2010, for the Xbox 360, and on PlayStation 3 and PC platforms on February 22, 2011.

There are no weight/gear restrictions; the game takes all of your stuff before beginning the DLC proper, and gives it back after you are finished. Recommended level 20+. Cannot leave before completion, cannot return after completion.



Honest Hearts takes you on an expedition to the unspoiled wilderness of Utah’s Zion National Park. Things go horribly wrong when your caravan is ambushed by a tribal raiding band. As you try to find a way back to the Mojave, you become embroiled in a war between tribes and a conflict between a New Canaanite missionary and the mysterious Burned Man. The decisions you make will determine the fate of Zion. It was released on May 17, 2011 on the Xbox 360 and PC platforms. It was later released on June 2 (NA), and June 5 (EU) for PlayStation 3, due to the PSN store being down from a group hacking the server.

The Courier can only take 75 pounds of gear (can be made 100 with certain perks / skill checks). No recommended level (everything scales). Cannot leave before completion, can return after completion via fast-travel to Northern Passage.



In Old World Blues you discover how some of the Mojave’s mutated monsters came to be when you unwittingly become a lab rat in a science experiment gone awry. You need to scour the pre-War research centers of the Big Empty in search of technology to turn the tables on your kidnappers or join forces with them against an even greater threat. It was released simultaneously on all platforms on July 19, 2011.

No weight/gear restrictions. Recommended level 15, but at high levels the scaling seems to get out of control and the enemies turn into bullet sponges. Cannot leave before completion, can return after completion with teleport device.



Lonesome Road brings the Courier's story full circle when you are contacted by the original Courier Six, a man by the name of Ulysses who refused to deliver the Platinum Chip at the start of New Vegas. In his transmission, Ulysses promises the answer as to why, but only if you take one last job—a job that leads you into the depths of the hurricane-swept canyons of the Divide, a landscape torn apart by earthquakes and violent storms. The road to the Divide is a long and treacherous one, and of the few to ever walk the road, none have ever returned. It was released on September 20, 2011 simultaneously on all platforms.

No weight/gear restrictions. Recommended level 25+. Can leave/return at any time before and after completion by fast travel to Canyon Wreckage.



Players pre-ordering Fallout: New Vegas from selected retailers were granted access to special pre-order bonus packs, containing exclusive equipment to make the earlier stages of the game easier. The list of bonus packs is as follows:

These packs has been combined into one pack titled Courier's Stash and has been released on September 27, 2011.



The famous weapons manufacturer, Gun Runners, has opened up their exclusive cache of armaments, including new weapons, weapon mods, ammo types and recipes. Their inventory doesn’t come without a price, though. Trek far and wide throughout the Mojave Wasteland in search of this elite class of weapons that range from the outrageously potent to the bizarrely impractical.

Gun Runners’ Arsenal, released on September 27, 2011, increases the range of unique weapons, weapon mods, ammunition types and recipes waiting to be uncovered in the vast Mojave Wasteland.

Dead Man Posting fucked around with this message at Apr 1, 2012 around 22:01

Dead Man Posting
Sep 1, 2008





What SPECIAL, traits, skills and perks should I invest in?
There really aren't any useless SPECIAL, traits, or skills. There are some useless perks, but you should be able to spot them. If you are unsure, post in this thread, or view a list of useless perks made by goons.

For SPECIAL, it might be a good idea to invest in intelligence, so that you get more precious skill points as you level up. With a high intelligence, your character should be able to max all skills to 100 by level 50 (provided you purchased all DLC, as the default max level without DLC is 30).

For traits, well, that is up to you. They're not useful, but nor are they useless. All traits add something at the cost of something else. You don't have to choose any of them, but the most popular trait is Wild Wasteland.

As for skills, the most popular among goons are speech, science or lockpick, and some offensive trait such as guns. Repair is extremely useful as well, as it repairs your weapons and saves you money.

However, the game is really built to play on how you want, rather than throwing in a bunch of useless skills and a few good ones. For example, if you want to have a smooth tongue and get past some difficult situations without pulling a trigger, then investing your points heavily into energy weapons would not be suiting for that style of play. (Put it in Speech )

Is there post-ending gameplay?
No.

When will I know when the final quest will begin?
The game will notify you via a pop up when the final quest (also known as "end sequence") begins, asking you if you want to start it or if you are not ready yet. Fallout: New Vegas also saves your game as you confirm to start the end sequence. This allows you to load up a pre-final quest game save, and thus play as if you are right before the end sequence.

Which are the best DLCs?
All DLCs have received generally favorable reviews, and each DLC has its strengths and weaknesses.

  • If you are looking for something mysterious/spooky with fantastic voice acting and plot development, then Dead Money would be for you.
  • If you are seeking a new additional open-world environment, the best of the DLC for this is Honest Hearts.
  • If you want to play something that makes you laugh for hours with great voice acting and a crazy-but-still-believable plot, then Old World Blues.
  • Then if you need something that ties up loose ends for the main quest and enjoy a challenge, then play Lonesome Road.

What order should I play the DLCs in?
General consensus is to play the DLC in the order they were released. Several goons report that playing them one-after-another is fantastic and like playing a whole new game. Most people recommend waiting on DLC until you are far enough in the main game (perhaps around level 15), despite all DLC content available to you immediately.

Where can I find a list of console commands?
Console commands can be found at the Fallout Wiki, also known as "The Vault".

Note though, that when you use console commands, Steam achievements become temporarily disabled. From the time you open up the console, Steam stops triggering achievements. To re-enable the triggering of Steam achievements, simply save your game after you entered in your commands, exit out of Fallout: New Vegas, and then start it up again.

How do I get my character's picture in the OP?
I have enough Fallout Goon characters for now, but I will rotate them out every now and then (really whenver I have time and feel like it). If you really want to make sure your picture will be included the OP rotation, do the following:

  • PM me, or comment in the Fallout Goons Steam group, a link to your post in this thread that contains an image of your character.
  • Make sure the picture doesn't show too much spoiler (i.e. what Mr. House looks like).
  • Make a little story, whether with text and/or images, to go along your screenshot. The images in the OP are clickable to jump to your post about your character's story or what he/she is doing.
  • No HUD. You can disable it with the console command tm or make it fully transparent in the display settings.
  • I would really prefer if you resize/crop your screenshot to 800x450 so I don't have to.
  • Best quality/texture detail possible.





Links
Official Fallout Website
Official Fallout: New Vegas Website
Fallout Goons (FOGoons) - Made as an alternative to the now-defunct #fnvgoons IRC-channel.
New Vegas Nexus - Best collection of mods related to Fallout: New Vegas.
The Vault, the Fallout Wiki - Excellent resource to everything in the game.
SomethingAwful.com FNV Console Thread - Primarily targeted for the console audience.
SomethingAwful.com FNV Modding Thread - Primarily targeted for perverted animu-furries.

Special Thanks
Cicadalek for the list of useless perks.
Obsidian Entertainment. All content, including images shamelessly stolen from the Internet, belong to them.
rope kid, the resident Obsidian goon.
Simon Draskovic for the DLC information.
The Vault, the Fallout wiki.
Wikipedia contributors for the "What is Fallout: New Vegas?" section and various other pieces here and there.
your evil twin, the creator of the old thread, for some of the content I blatantly copy/pasted to this thread.

Dead Man Posting fucked around with this message at Apr 1, 2012 around 22:00

Mug
Apr 26, 2005


Any word on whether there'll be a GOTY edition with all the expansions like the last one? I'm kinda waiting for something like that before coming back to the game.

Seashell Salesman
Aug 4, 2005


What's wrong with the old thread plus why no witty title?

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005


Seashell Salesman posted:

What's wrong with the old thread plus why no witty title?

The OP hasn't updated in over a year and there's still NV content coming out?

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.


From the last thread:

quote:

Seriously? What does he say?

I had the NCR version of the duster and he notes that you wear the insignia of the Bear but it's somehow different from how everyone else does. I don't recall him saying that if you wear NCR faction armor when you face him.

Seashell Salesman
Aug 4, 2005


Zorak posted:

The OP hasn't updated in over a year and there's still NV content coming out?

Fair enough then.

Dead Man Posting
Sep 1, 2008



Seashell Salesman posted:

What's wrong with the old thread plus why no witty title?

Nothing wrong with the old thread. And the mods can add witty titles. I hide my wit when I know it isn't witty willy.

Chinaman7000
Nov 28, 2003



RBA Starblade posted:

From the last thread:


I had the NCR version of the duster and he notes that you wear the insignia of the Bear but it's somehow different from how everyone else does. I don't recall him saying that if you wear NCR faction armor when you face him.

I think I've heard Legate say that before the DLC, but I could be wrong. Just a comment that he actually respects you unlike the rest of the NCR.

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

Chinaman7000 posted:

I think I've heard Legate say that before the DLC, but I could be wrong. Just a comment that he actually respects you unlike the rest of the NCR.
Yeah, that's definitely a default line.

I also just checked the dialogues that are in LonesomeRoad.esm - they're all associated with EDE or Ulysses.

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.


Oh, I must have not remembered it then so I thought it was related. Never mind.

J Bjelke-Postersen
Sep 16, 2007

I have a 6 point plan to stop the boats.....or turn them around or something....No wait what were those points again....Are there really 6?


If there were never more video games made and I could only play one game forever it would be New Vegas. I can't wait to get home and play Old World Blues tonight, Honest Hearts and Dead Money were awesome even though they've leveled me from 20 to like 28 really rapidly.

I just wanted to have a gush on the first page.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006



J Bjelke-Postersen posted:

If there were never more video games made and I could only play one game forever it would be New Vegas. I can't wait to get home and play Old World Blues tonight, Honest Hearts and Dead Money were awesome even though they've leveled me from 20 to like 28 really rapidly.

I just wanted to have a gush on the first page.

Between FO:NV and Civ V I haven't bought a non-DLC game in almost a year

Doug Lombardi
Jan 18, 2005


I like that this thread doesn't have a stupid title so I know instantly what it's about and that there aren't any gang tags.

J Bjelke-Postersen
Sep 16, 2007

I have a 6 point plan to stop the boats.....or turn them around or something....No wait what were those points again....Are there really 6?


Omnicarus posted:

Between FO:NV and Civ V I haven't bought a non-DLC game in almost a year

I buy other games only to quit them halfway through and head back to New Vegas.

Helldump Immunity
Sep 11, 2001
Probation
Can't post for 3373 days!


J Bjelke-Postersen posted:

I buy other games only to quit them halfway through and head back to New Vegas.

I've noticed that too. I have all the DLC and I haven't even scratched the surface of them.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.



I put about 40 hours into Fallout 3 and really enjoyed it, but I didn't really feel any need to go back in afterwards. With New Vegas, I'm closer to 70 hours, have barely touched the main questline, have played through two of the four DLC I own (I almost NEVER buy DLC for games) and I'm worried that at some point I'll have done everything in the game and not be able to play it anymore (with that character!).

It really is just a tremendous game. While it does have flaws, it does so much stuff so right, and I hope that Obsidian gets its kudos when it comes to getting to develop more games.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

Is that... alcohol?



I finished Hoover Dam carrying the flag of the Bear on my back for the first time. It feels... Really awesome.

Chinaman7000
Nov 28, 2003



RBA Starblade posted:

Oh, I must have not remembered it then so I thought it was related. Never mind.

One of the weaknesses of the DLC stuff is they can't usually bring in the vanilla voice actors to add new dialogue. That's why OWB has that silly thing where the Think Tank says they altered your brain so you can't mention stuff about Big MT anywhere but within Big MT. After all, you could potentially become the messiah of science with 5 dysfunctional geniuses working for you, and that could probably change things up plotwise in the Mojave.

Veronica and Dead Money was a special case, probably cause Felicia Day is a cool lady, but I always wished I could say to Caesar and Vulpes that I was buddies with Graham.


Also I have an almost embarrassing amount of time invested in New Vegas according to Steam.

Chinaman7000 fucked around with this message at Sep 26, 2011 around 05:46

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

Home of the
"FIGHTING CHOMSKYS"


J Bjelke-Postersen posted:

If there were never more video games made and I could only play one game forever it would be New Vegas. I can't wait to get home and play Old World Blues tonight, Honest Hearts and Dead Money were awesome even though they've leveled me from 20 to like 28 really rapidly.

I just wanted to have a gush on the first page.

Agreein' wit dis. I've yet to make it more than a mission and a half into DXHR because hey, this time I'll do an evil energy weapons run! I'm hoping my addiction tapers off in time for the new Saints Row, though, but this game is impossible to stop playing.

Doug Lombardi posted:

I like that this thread doesn't have a stupid title so I know instantly what it's about and that there aren't any gang tags.

This too, and also no fanart. Thanks for not being the Mass Effect thread and ruining it for non-creeps, New Vegas fans!

J Bjelke-Postersen
Sep 16, 2007

I have a 6 point plan to stop the boats.....or turn them around or something....No wait what were those points again....Are there really 6?


Wolfsheim posted:

This too, and also no fanart. Thanks for not being the Mass Effect thread and ruining it for non-creeps, New Vegas fans!

Fallout seems to attract a different class of game player. A better class of game player

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002

ASK ME ABOUT MY BI-WEEKLY KANJAM CLUB FOR SENIORS


Counterpoint the entire FO3/FO:NV nexus community

Luisfe
Aug 17, 2005

Hee-lo-ho!

J Bjelke-Postersen posted:

I buy other games only to quit them halfway through and head back to New Vegas.

Did that with Deus Ex. Should finish it soon.

Mikael Kreoss
Feb 13, 2011

by Fistgrrl


Someone from the last thread wanted me to explain how to land the riot gear/shotgun/red glare at level 4.

Well, basically you take skilled twice, using the rebuild character DM perk glitch, have 9 int and 5 per (like most of my builds since I am an unimaginative gently caress.) tag Lockpick and pick up the locksmith's reader from Goodsprings. you'll have base 16 plus ten for skilleds, plus fifteen for the tag. Add in a total of 44 skillpoints to hit 85. "But even with the plus ten for the Reader, that's not enough!!!" you say. Well guess what, you get +2 points per PER, so get yourself a loving cowboy hat and`some Mentats to land a cool 91 base +10 for the Magazine.

But the fun part is getting there. That's where you seperate the men from the men-children with too much time on their hands

J Bjelke-Postersen
Sep 16, 2007

I have a 6 point plan to stop the boats.....or turn them around or something....No wait what were those points again....Are there really 6?


Cowcaster posted:

Counterpoint the entire FO3/FO:NV nexus community

As soon as I hit post I remembered that NMA exists.

Wanted to post Fallout: New Vegas v Planet of the Apes here but I can't find the image

jvempire
May 10, 2009


Jerusalem posted:

I put about 40 hours into Fallout 3 and really enjoyed it, but I didn't really feel any need to go back in afterwards. With New Vegas, I'm closer to 70 hours, have barely touched the main questline, have played through two of the four DLC I own (I almost NEVER buy DLC for games) and I'm worried that at some point I'll have done everything in the game and not be able to play it anymore (with that character!).

It really is just a tremendous game. While it does have flaws, it does so much stuff so right, and I hope that Obsidian gets its kudos when it comes to getting to develop more games.
Judging from my steam time, the last playthrough I did (which I didn't even finish) was 40 hours. With my new recent playthrough I'm also noticing some stuff I missed out on, so this game is really jam packed with stuff.

Also, I noticed that the traitor in Camp McCarran mission was fixed, very interesting.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008



Yup.


Cowcaster posted:

Counterpoint the entire FO3/FO:NV nexus community

Blame Bethesda's mod community on that.

J Bjelke-Postersen
Sep 16, 2007

I have a 6 point plan to stop the boats.....or turn them around or something....No wait what were those points again....Are there really 6?


Luisfe posted:

Did that with Deus Ex. Should finish it soon.

New Vegas ruined DXR for me because I rushed DXR so I could get back to playing Fallout.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

Home of the
"FIGHTING CHOMSKYS"


jvempire posted:

Judging from my steam time, the last playthrough I did (which I didn't even finish) was 40 hours. With my new recent playthrough I'm also noticing some stuff I missed out on, so this game is really jam packed with stuff.

Also, I noticed that the traitor in Camp McCarran mission was fixed, very interesting.

I have played this game for 100+ hours and am still stumbling onto stuff I missed. I didn't even know there was an Aerotech Park or a North Vegas my first three times through.

Doug Lombardi
Jan 18, 2005


J Bjelke-Postersen posted:

As soon as I hit post I remembered that NMA exists.

Wanted to post Fallout: New Vegas v Planet of the Apes here but I can't find the image

NMA was 100% correct about Fallout 3 and they liked Fallout: New Vegas so I don't get the criticism.

Horns
Nov 4, 2009


Chinaman7000 posted:

One of the weaknesses of the DLC stuff is they can't usually bring in the vanilla voice actors to add new dialogue. That's why OWB has that silly thing where the Think Tank says they altered your brain so you can't mention stuff about Big MT anywhere but within Big MT. After all, you could potentially become the messiah of science with 5 dysfunctional geniuses working for you, and that could probably change things up plotwise in the Mojave.

Veronica and Dead Money was a special case, probably cause Felicia Day is a cool lady, but I always wished I could say to Caesar and Vulpes that I was buddies with Graham.

Yeah, this bugs me too. (Honest Hearts/main game spoiler sorta)On my most recent game I finished Honest Hearts before touching the main quest and meeting Caesar. I got kind of excited when I saw one of his dialog options mention the Burned Man because I completely forgot you could already do that in the game before Honest Hearts, but was pretty bummed that it still didn't go anywhere beyond Caesar just telling me to shut the gently caress up about it.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010


What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?


Wolfsheim posted:

I have played this game for 100+ hours and am still stumbling onto stuff I missed. I didn't even know there was an Aerotech Park or a North Vegas my first three times through.

I completely missed The Thorn the first two playthroughs until somebody told me about it. The entire area north of New Vegas is inconspicuous in general since there's very little plot pushing you that way.

J Bjelke-Postersen
Sep 16, 2007

I have a 6 point plan to stop the boats.....or turn them around or something....No wait what were those points again....Are there really 6?


Doug Lombardi posted:

NMA was 100% correct about Fallout 3 and they liked Fallout: New Vegas so I don't get the criticism.

The vitriol was ridiculous.

jvempire
May 10, 2009


Rinkles posted:

I completely missed The Thorn the first two playthroughs until somebody told me about it. The entire area north of New Vegas is inconspicuous in general since there's very little plot pushing you that way.
I was just about to post that. I too had no idea about this until my friend talked about how before he went into the actual New Vegas, Victor followed him to there.

Fewd
Mar 22, 2007



I'm guessing most players still haven't noticed there are sewers under New Vegas.

Zilkin
Jan 9, 2009


You guys make this game sound so good, was thinking of waiting for GotY edition but now I don't know. Whats holding me back is that the game + all the DLCs cost like 70 euros on Steam. Is this game really worth that?

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006



^^^^Edit: I'd wait a little while. I imagine that in the coming months you'll see a GOTY set come out, or at least a big sale. And by then most of the mods will up updated for all of the DLCs, too.

Doug Lombardi posted:

NMA was 100% correct about Fallout 3 and they liked Fallout: New Vegas so I don't get the criticism.

I think the criticism was directed at the sheer anger that they displayed. FO3 got the Civ V treatment, imo. It is a good game that somehow earned the ire of some dedicated fans and has since been panned as a shitheap despite being a pretty awesome reinvention of a series.

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SWERVE



Zilkin posted:

You guys make this game sound so good, was thinking of waiting for GotY edition but now I don't know. Whats holding me back is that the game + all the DLCs cost like 70 euros on Steam. Is this game really worth that?

The vanilla game is EASILY worth the $20 it costs on Steam right now. Buy it for that price, and then wait until Christmas for a deal on the DLC's. The base game will keep you busy for that long, probably.

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Doug Lombardi
Jan 18, 2005


Omnicarus posted:

I think the criticism was directed at the sheer anger that they displayed. FO3 got the Civ V treatment, imo. It is a good game that somehow earned the ire of some dedicated fans and has since been panned as a shitheap despite being a pretty awesome reinvention of a series.

Both of those games are total garbage though. Fallout 3 was embarrassing Fallout fanfiction and Civ V is permanently crippled by the unworkable One Unit Per Tile battle system that ruined the basic economics of earlier games and to top it off the AI still can't play the game.

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