|
STiL. posted:House definitely makes this clear that this kills him anyway further down the line.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 05:51 |
|
|
|
| # ? May 22, 2013 19:39 |
|
|
Synonymous posted:Whether or not he is telling the truth or is desperately trying to hold onto his control over New Vegas by appealing to the Courier's conscience is left up to the player. House loves control, and sitting in that pod with no control over anything would be his hell. I don't think anyone, control freak or otherwise, would be a fan of sitting motionless in a metal coffin for days (Weeks? Months?) as you slowly die from infection though? Also, I don't think he would need to bluff about dying because it seems kinda common sense that a dessicated body kept delicately alive in a controlled environment would be hosed by coming in contact with anything remotely resembling a germ.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 06:09 |
|
|
Teen Hero Greg posted:Basically this is a concept that should be extended in as many ways as possible. I want to be able to fire bits of broken glass, rock salt, ball bearings, basically anything sharp and small enough I can cram it into a shotgun barrel. I was actually thinking of modding in something like this, shouldn't be too hard. I just need to figure out how to add the new ammo types to the shotgun list with a script. Got any more suggestions? Preferably something that already has a model or decal in the game, I suck at Blender.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 06:09 |
|
|
Wolfsheim posted:I don't think anyone, control freak or otherwise, would be a fan of sitting motionless in a metal coffin for days (Weeks? Months?) as you slowly die from infection though?  Then I beat him to death with a golf club for delicious achievements. Sorry Housey, xp wins out. (seriously fair point though- I forgot the computer flat tells you it'll let in germs and whatever)
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 06:29 |
|
|
rossmum posted:Said it before, will say it again: coinshot is the only correct way of killing Legion, especially named characters. Ya, all of my guns characters have marched through the fort with a high end 12 gauge and as much coin shot as I could buy.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 09:16 |
|
|
I installed the Courier's Pack (along with all the other DLC), but now I feel guilty, like it'll unbalance the game. Since playing Dark Souls I feel bad if I'm not being punished. It've got the gaming version of Catholic guilt.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 11:34 |
|
|
thrakkorzog posted:Yeah, in FO3 the enemies scale to your level, which is part of the reason enemies become ridiculous bullet sponges at higher levels. In NV, while the enemies do scale, it's within a certain range, so you're not going to find a level 30 bloatfly, or a level 1 deathclaw. In the NV DLC they do scale to your level, which is really noticeable in OWB, where everything becomes a bullet sponge if you play it at high levels. I'm pretty sure that's bullshit. You're thinking of Oblivion.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 11:53 |
|
|
Count Chocula posted:I installed the Courier's Pack (along with all the other DLC), but now I feel guilty, like it'll unbalance the game. I throw all my stuff away unless it suits the character.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 11:53 |
|
|
sebmojo posted:I'm pretty sure that's bullshit. You're thinking of Oblivion. Oblivion is worse afaik, but there is level scaling in FO3 and it still sucks a donkey dick.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 11:56 |
|
|
Decided that with the recent discussion of the game's stability, and why critics were rough on it, I'd go back and play FO3. It's crashed at least ten times in the last two hours for no readily apparent reason whatsoever, so however buggy New Vegas was at launch (and I don't deny that it was), it was a hell of a lot more stable than FO3 is even all this time after release. I've taken to skipping most of the dialogue audio because very few instances of actually good voice acting are in the game and most of them range from poor to downright awful. This is to say nothing of the writing itself, which is... well, it's loving terrible, I won't dance around that. I was kind of impressed by some of the scenery itself. Neither NV nor FO3 are going to win any awards for looking amazing, but it's not as bad as I was remembering. With that said, this is DC I'm talking about, near the river - so I guess a lot of effort went into prettying that up. A mix of impatience and curiosity, since I dawdled about for ages before even trying to progress along the main quest last time I played, resulted in me making a mad dash for GNR and fighting as little as possible along the way. I blew right past everything, only having to clean up a few raiders by the river, a couple centaurs, a mirelurk or two, and a single dog - at least until I was forced into the subway, where I had to fight off ghouls and then super mutants afterwards in such a heavy-handed scripted sequence that my brain must have supressed all memory of it from the last time I played the game. Woohoo, let's follow the Brotherhood Bullshit Brigade and be forced to listen through several lines of inconsequential lovely dialogue before I can get inside. Once I did, I was reminded I had to slog through a museum full of super mutants to get a part to put on top of the Washington Monument (in the middle of the Mall, full of super mutants). gently caress that poo poo, especially as a level 4 character. Not going to happen. That's as far as I got before I gave up, maybe I'll play more later. Impressions as someone who has not played FO3 since well before NV released: - Way less stable than NV is, despite being out for way longer and having more money and time behind it. If critics liked to call NV out for its bugs, then how they could gloss over FO3's with any sense of integrity is beyond me. - lovely layout. For all the hype about Bethesda's open worlds, they are easy as poo poo to break, either by missing content accidentally or deliberately. I remember on my first ever playthrough I barely strayed outside the southeastern part of the map, this time I straight up beelined it to GNR and was talking to the man himself less than thirty minutes after leaving the Vault - and this was stopping to talk to a few characters along the way, not a true speedrun. - Tying in with the above, I am encountering power armour and nuclear weapons (thanks, dead BoS soldiers!) at level four. I don't even have a decent loving rifle yet, but poo poo, I could rain Fat Mans all day if the fancy took me! - Speaking of guns, they suck. Even with an ironsight mod I downloaded forever ago (which is essentially a useless cosmetic change, the crosshair is still the true aimpoint and the weapon waves drunkenly all over), gunplay is really, really terrible. Thanks to Gamebryo being a generally lovely engine even NV's combat isn't particularly satisfying, but holy hell does it make Fallout 3 look like poo poo by comparison. - Super mutants. Not only are they hosed up in the same way the BoS is hosed up, becoming little more than giant baddie meatshields to try and keep you out of certain areas early-game (which clearly didn't work so far), but they are an absolute pain to fight. Between ghouls in the metro tunnels and these fuckers topside, the entire of DC is just one giant tedious snorefest of lovely bullet sponges. Also, the Behemoth. What the gently caress is this poo poo? As I said, I might occasionally continue on this as sort of one last playthrough I guess, but playing NV as well as the original games has completely spoiled me and I find it hard to take the game seriously, let alone enjoy it. I get what Bethesda were aiming for, and an East Coast setting done by someone who can write would've been really interesting, but holy gently caress. Sorry if this is straying a bit into "making GBS threads on FO3 in the wrong thread" territory, but with the talk about how it compared to NV in reviews and how they compare in terms of stability, I thought I'd throw in.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 12:01 |
|
|
rossmum posted:Said it before, will say it again: coinshot is the only correct way of killing Legion, especially named characters.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 12:04 |
|
|
I just finished Fallout 3, and despite spending 50 enjoyable hours on it it doesn't seem to have made an impression on me. Do I need to learn the rules of Caravan? I suck at cards. I'm debating picking up Comfirmed Bachelor, but extra damage and speech sounds nice and I did give my character a John Waters mustache to compliment the pompadour I wish I had IRL.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 12:38 |
|
|
Caravan is really easy to pick up. I am retarded at anything involving cards but have no trouble winning consistently. Basically, I just try keep my stacks closer to 26 than the other dude, and gently caress them over at every opportunity. Knowing what the picture cards do is handy, but I never even bothered to learn what can/can't be stacked since the game won't let you break the rules anyway. Just wing it, after a few low-stakes games you should have it down.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 12:41 |
|
|
rossmum posted:Decided that with the recent discussion of the game's stability, and why critics were rough on it, I'd go back and play FO3. It's crashed at least ten times in the last two hours for no readily apparent reason whatsoever, so however buggy New Vegas was at launch (and I don't deny that it was), it was a hell of a lot more stable than FO3 is even all this time after release. I'm sorry but do you have a quad-core processor? Fallout 3 is prone to crash whenever if you don't manually limit it to using 2 cores in the ini-file. The game was released all the way back in 2008 and can't handle the extra cores. 
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 12:56 |
|
|
Count Chocula posted:I installed the Courier's Pack (along with all the other DLC), but now I feel guilty, like it'll unbalance the game. It's not that big of deal. It makes the early game easier, but once you start getting close to Vegas it doesn't matter anymore, since you'll have found stuff as good/better.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 12:57 |
|
|
Xoidanor posted:I'm sorry but do you have a quad-core processor? Fallout 3 is prone to crash whenever if you don't manually limit it to using 2 cores in the ini-file. The game was released all the way back in 2008 and can't handle the extra cores.  ). I'll see if that fixes it.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 12:58 |
|
|
Xoidanor posted:I'm sorry but do you have a quad-core processor? Fallout 3 is prone to crash whenever if you don't manually limit it to using 2 cores in the ini-file. The game was released all the way back in 2008 and can't handle the extra cores. I can tell you that the game is still buggy as hell. Even limiting it by editing the ini file still results in it crashing a lot (my current run of NV I've had ~5 crashes after 16 hours, compared to the 10+ with only 6 hours in FO3). Not to mention that the framerate sucks for no reason (without mods, I can usually get 60 FPS in NV, but in FO3, the framerate likes to drop for no apparent reason, especially in indoor places).
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 13:03 |
|
|
I've noticed both are extremely temperamental. Sometimes they will crash every few minutes, I'll go away and come back to them a few hours or days later and they don't crash for hours on end. FO3 does seem to be the less stable of the pair by quite some margin, though, so it should be interesting to see if this changes that at all.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 13:05 |
|
|
Gamebryo. Gamebryo
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 13:10 |
|
|
The only really consistent crash problems I have with either FO3 or NV these days are in Old World Blues, where fast traveling is a 75% chance of a crash. Otherwise they sort of just crash when they feel like it.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 14:32 |
|
|
Would it violate the 'no social justice/no feminism' rule to talk about feeling a bit strange about using the Comfirmed Bachelor perk, even though I'm open-minded? Or has the thread already gone over that 10 times? Flirting with a military man makes me feel like Captain Jack from Torchwood. I'm already loving the soundtrack, though time will tell if it holds up to FO3. Dean's good, but he's no Ella Fitzgerald. It's nice that they're more respectful of the classics than Bayonetta (don't look up the remix of Fly Me To The Moon they use). I've found myself singing the FO3 soundtrack constantly. There was a rumor going around today about the next game being set in Boston, which would be perfect.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 14:38 |
|
|
Count Chocula posted:Would it violate the 'no social justice/no feminism' rule to talk about feeling a bit strange about using the Comfirmed Bachelor perk, even though I'm open-minded? Or has the thread already gone over that 10 times? Flirting with a military man makes me feel like Captain Jack from Torchwood.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 14:48 |
|
|
surprise sex Jake. posted:Oblivion is worse afaik, but there is level scaling in FO3 and it still sucks a donkey dick. Actually, FO3's level-scaling is very similar to what you described for NV. You have areas that, when you enter, enemies lock to a certain level, within a certain range, so Deathclaws are tough regardless of whether you see them early in the game or late. It was only the DLCs which brought in particularly annoying bullet-sponge enemies, not unlike how OWB did it. yerrow peril fucked around with this message at Aug 21, 2012 around 14:50 |
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 14:48 |
|
|
Ravenfood posted:You say this like it is a bad thing. Did I? I meant it as a good thing. I've just started but already the writing is better than FO3.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 14:59 |
|
|
So after buying this in a Steam sale like a year ago, I'm finally getting around to playing this. I don't know if unarmed is the best way to play the first time, but uppercutting heads into the stratosphere never gets old. Even better is punching someone in the chest so hard their limbs shoot off in different directions. I had a question on the special unarmed perks. I saw on the wiki I learn one from the Khans after a quest, but the story wants me to clear out a group of them with hostages (in Boulder City). I really want to kill these guys but it makes me infamous with them. Can I just disguise myself in their clothes and still get the perk later? Also just talking about bugs, I've only ran into one myself so far. Primm went hostile to me for no apparent reason early on, which looking it up online, is caused by wearing Powder Ganger armor at any point before finding them a sheriff, even if you never wore it in town. I wouldn't have really cared except it made a nearby NCR camp hostile too, and I ended up reloading an old save thinking I screwed myself out of ever working for them.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 15:22 |
|
|
Mustache Villainy posted:So after buying this in a Steam sale like a year ago, I'm finally getting around to playing this. I don't know if unarmed is the best way to play the first time, but uppercutting heads into the stratosphere never gets old. Even better is punching someone in the chest so hard their limbs shoot off in different directions. Edit: Nvm, didn't read that post too thoroughly. You could just put that quest on hold. Run out to Red Rock Canyon, get the special attack, and then start butchering them. I did something similar to Veronica. Got her a nice dress, learned Scribe Counter, and then blew up her home in the glorious name of Caesar. sitchelin fucked around with this message at Aug 21, 2012 around 15:36 |
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 15:32 |
|
|
Count Chocula posted:I installed the Courier's Pack (along with all the other DLC), but now I feel guilty, like it'll unbalance the game. In addition to what others have said, ropekid's mod takes the Courier's Pack items and scatters them across the Mojave for the player to find, rather than simply giving them at the start.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 16:21 |
|
|
Seriously, Fallout 3? A goddamned crashed flying saucer isn't good enough to warrant a map marker?
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 16:24 |
|
|
I finally got around to buying the DLC. I'm on my first playthrough and, in my usual style, have done a ton of sidequests before ever setting foot on the Strip. My only regret in this regard is having to move all of my stash from Novac to the Lucky 88 Presidential Suite and collect my followers to go hang out there (a nice touch). At this point, I'm going to step away from the main story to do the DLC. My question is where the story more or less permanently branches into choosing a side. I'm playing an angel right now, so I don't really care about pissing off Caesar. But the quests note that if I continue working with Yes Man, NCR will know and stop cooperating. Likewise, how many of Mr. House's quests can I do before there is no return? I like to play as many quests as possible in my first playthrough, including ones that ultimately won't count toward the ending I choose. For the record, I will probably try to find a way to get BoS and NCR together, assuming this is possible. (The Vault Dweller didn't do all that work for them to fail now!) This time around, I put few points into combat skills at first, letting Boone and ED-E do most of the dirty work, though I'm great with energy weapons now (Lvl 29). Next time, I'm going for an evil Unarmed courier. I assume high STR, END, AGL is the way to go. VVVVVVVVV Thanks. Does that count for Mr. House, too? I'm only on "The House Always Wins, Pt II" Derek Dominoe fucked around with this message at Aug 21, 2012 around 16:34 |
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 16:24 |
|
|
I believe that's it. If you complete a mission for an opposing side while Don't Tread on the Bear is up, NCR brands you a terrorist. Best to just delay doing Yes Man's stuff until the last possible moment.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 16:29 |
|
|
Another thing I like about New Vegas over FO3 is that the creatures roam in specific areas instead of popping out of nowhere and killing Little Big Town after I saved their asses. Also I like how in Boone's hotel room, there is a smashed window in the bathroom.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 16:52 |
|
|
Derek Dominoe posted:
Yes. Specifically, you get locked out of Legion/NCR when you complete The House Always Wins part 4 Stroth fucked around with this message at Aug 21, 2012 around 16:55 |
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 16:52 |
|
|
achillesforever6 posted:Another thing I like about New Vegas over FO3 is that the creatures roam in specific areas instead of popping out of nowhere and killing Little Big Town after I saved their asses. I have to disagree with you about the first part. I came back to Goodsprings once and found everyone there dead because some cazadors had flown in and slaughtered them.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 17:09 |
|
|
sitchelin posted:Edit: Nvm, didn't read that post too thoroughly. I thought I might have to do something like that. I was trying to avoid it, partly because it broke the 'flow' I had going, partly because last time I was out west, Cazadores ate my face off. Time to put the 15 or so Stealth Boys I have lying around to use.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 17:55 |
|
|
rossmum posted:Caravan is really easy to pick up. I am retarded at anything involving cards but have no trouble winning consistently. By the same token, I'm over 270 hours and all the endings into Fallout: New Vegas and I still haven't played a single hand of Caravan.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 18:01 |
|
|
SlothfulCobra posted:Seriously, Fallout 3? A goddamned crashed flying saucer isn't good enough to warrant a map marker? That's a random event. I hate that event because the only time I've found the Firelance comes from when some enemy raider picked it up and straight up vaporized me.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 18:23 |
|
|
redmercer posted:By the same token, I'm over 270 hours and all the endings into Fallout: New Vegas and I still haven't played a single hand of Caravan. No Caravan for me, either. I did buy lots of cards because I thought it might be possible to cheat at the casinos if I had a bunch of their cards on hand. Still, 7 Luck and Blackjack will solve all of your financial woes.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 18:24 |
|
|
FairGame posted:That's a random event. I hate that event because the only time I've found the Firelance comes from when some enemy raider picked it up and straight up vaporized me. If you don't have Mothership Zeta, there's also a permanent crashed flying saucer exactly in the place where that DLC begins. There's an alien blaster and some alien ammo around there which you can grab. And no, there's no map marker pointing to the downed ship.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 18:58 |
|
|
FairGame posted:That's a random event. I hate that event because the only time I've found the Firelance comes from when some enemy raider picked it up and straight up vaporized me. I like how the exploding UFO scattershots the super-rare Alien Cell ammunition across a football-field-sized area, prompting you to spend the next 20 minutes crawling around, searching for those last 2 or 3 cells.
|
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 19:25 |
|
|
|
| # ? May 22, 2013 19:39 |
|
|
I never got any of the DLC for Fallout 3. I had been through the game several times, thinking it was pretty neat. Then I found out what Bethesda did to Harold.  It destroyed pretty much any desire I had to revisit the game. Meaty Ore fucked around with this message at Aug 21, 2012 around 20:42 |
| # ? Aug 21, 2012 19:38 |
|
