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Chris Avellone doesn't like romances. I will credit him that he can write pretty good relationships that aren't romances, Atton Rand for example.
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Pwnstar posted:You are forgetting ED-E who is the greatest R2-D2 style pal since Kotor 2. Um, Chopper?!?
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WarLocke posted:Um, Chopper?!? gently caress Chopper and gently caress Filoni for turning that show into Clone Wars 2.0.
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Jul 29, 2015 14:32
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Sorry for the tumblr bullshit but I thought this thread might get a kick out of this. http://the-pietriarchy.tumblr.com/post/125347115372/how-did-this-happen Basically a quote from Honest hearts went viral on the group of people who put quotes on sappy backgrounds and none of them know where it actually came from.
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I think it's hilarious and actually a good sappy quote, even out of context. The fact that Danaerys Targaryen is used as a background is hysterical. Though, in context, it makes a lot more sense.
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Jul 29, 2015 21:45
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Lol at it getting translated into other languages and lmao at someone Asking what it means on a "quotations" website.
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Jul 29, 2015 23:26
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Man that's not even Joshua's best line!
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NotALizardman posted:Man that's not even Joshua's best line! thinking about it is making me want to play Honest Hearts again 
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I just started OWB over Honest Hearts and I'm regretting my choice tbh.
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OWB is really easy and fun if you play Unarmed Fallout New Vegas is really easy and fun if you play Unarmed
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Doing OWB early is probably the most painless way to do it if you aren't a Piercing Strike Unarmed guy
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One of the first areas I bumbled into in OWB was a tunnel of sorts and inside it I found a blue force field which was part of the floor and was covering a water filled area. That was before I got the ability to knock out force fields, but I can't remember where that place was. Any ideas?
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that sounds like you're combining the North tunnel (which has the force field, but is dry) with the Magnetohydraulics complex (which has the water, but no forcefield)
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I think that's the Big MT North Tunnel, it's just east of the north end of the map.
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2house2fly posted:I think that's the Big MT North Tunnel, it's just east of the north end of the map. It was this one! It wasn't water below the field, but this was the first field I saw so I guess I didn't quite know what I was looking at. Many thanks!
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So I'm doing Beyond the Beef, and as soon as I came out of the kitchens with Ted and entered the member's only area, Boone aggroed all the White Glove Society members. I tried to run back into the kitchens so that they'd reset, but obviously they didn't do that since Fallout doesn't work that way-- they kept moving towards the kitchen, and were right at the door when I re-entered the member's only area. So now my autosave is being surrounded by aggroed White Glove Society members. My last real save is from hours ago. Is there anything I can do at this point? Besides replay a whole bunch of the game I guess.
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Rincewind posted:So I'm doing Beyond the Beef, and as soon as I came out of the kitchens with Ted and entered the member's only area, Boone aggroed all the White Glove Society members. I tried to run back into the kitchens so that they'd reset, but obviously they didn't do that since Fallout doesn't work that way-- they kept moving towards the kitchen, and were right at the door when I re-entered the member's only area. So now my autosave is being surrounded by aggroed White Glove Society members. My last real save is from hours ago. Is there anything I can do at this point? Besides replay a whole bunch of the game I guess. Kill 'em all...  I mean unless you want to play the Beyond the Beef questline the normal way, then I guess you're screwed. As consolation, there was a good chance the scripting would've been bugged anyways and you couldn't complete it even if things didn't go wrong before the end. As for "Boone aggroing all the White Gloves" that doesn't really happen. Are you sure you did every single one of the optional quest things, talked to everybody it told you to talk to and set up Mortimer to be exposed? If you just go straight to the freezer and let Ted out then the White Gloves will go hostile on you no matter what, your companions aren't really a factor. You still complete the quest if Ted makes it out alive and you talk to Heck, you just don't get to follow the "proper" quest procedure.
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I exposed the cannibal, finished dialogue and completed the quest. Then I witnessed the spectacle of the White Glove dinner party getting up and rushing power-armored Veronica with their sticks. Despite the armor, they managed to stunlock Veronica with a cacophony of clang clang clang until she went unconscious. Then she got up and the White Gloves walked away, seemingly satisfied. It's a mysterious quest.
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Wearing a suit of armor to a dinner party is a major faux pas.
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Armor is for city slickers. I went through my entire playthrough without ever wearing anything other than various cowboy hats and equally cowboyish clothes.
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Never in any of my playthroughs have I done Beyond the Beef in a way that doesn't involve murdering all of the White Gloves. Even when I've tried to do it the 'real' way, it seems it always ends with my bashing dozens of heads in with a cane.
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I've had the aggro problem as well. On the times I got it to complete properly, I usually had to wait until Mortimer finished most of his keynote speech, then trot into view with Ted.
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I just did Beyond the Beef the other day and also had some weird scripting problems. Telling my companions to wait outside the casino while I ran the quest helped a little, but there was still a lone hostile White Glove standing guard in the member's only section despite me never pulling any aggro on anyone and Mortimer did his entire speech while walking towards the exit for whatever reason. It took a few reloads to catch him in the right spot where he could actually complete the full dialogue path and without getting close enough to somehow turn the whole room hostile, despite wearing their faction clothing. Looking back on the three families, or at least the White Gloves and Omertas, I wish there was an option for characters with exceeding high Luck to gamble their way into taking control of the casinos yourself, therefore bypassing all those quests that way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbkizy-Y3qw&t=118s
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rotinaj posted:OWB is really easy and fun if you play Unarmed An oxymoron if I've seen one
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yeah we get it some people like different dlcs than others
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Trabandiumium posted:yeah we get it some people like different dlcs than others Obviously not because people itt have been trading the same arguments about DLC superiority for years.
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The thing that went wrong with my latest Beyond the Beef was that Heck just didn't want to acknowledge his son. Mortimer finished, I beat the poo poo out of him because of course that's what you do, and then Ted was all teeth-gritted and hostile. But even when he calmed down he wouldn't loving move. I had to physically shove him through the entire hotel into the bar, where nothing happened at all. I just murdered Heck in front of Ted, no White Gloves aggroed on me, then the quest failed and I left 
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King Vidiot posted:The thing that went wrong with my latest Beyond the Beef was that Heck just didn't want to acknowledge his son. Mortimer finished, I beat the poo poo out of him because of course that's what you do, and then Ted was all teeth-gritted and hostile. But even when he calmed down he wouldn't loving move. I had to physically shove him through the entire hotel into the bar, where nothing happened at all. It's a very common error - I beleive that part of the quest never once worked for me. I believe the remedy is to take a Time out for a couple of hours - and if that doesn't work, the wiki should have a couple of solutins for you.
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Beyond the beef is the single buggiest piece of poo poo quest there is. I just leave Arcade in the closet so everyone has a healthy option for dinner.
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I've played through the game 3 tims and every time I've found a new way to bug out the quest. Last time I learned that if I don't kill Boone before giving him to the cannibals his hate legion aura stays forever one me. Not much fun on a legion run. The time before that the kid you save refused to walk so I had to push him to his dad.
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King Vidiot posted:The thing that went wrong with my latest Beyond the Beef was that Heck just didn't want to acknowledge his son. Mortimer finished, I beat the poo poo out of him because of course that's what you do, and then Ted was all teeth-gritted and hostile. But even when he calmed down he wouldn't loving move. I had to physically shove him through the entire hotel into the bar, where nothing happened at all. I had this happen to me on my last playthrough too. Pushing Ted near heck worked for me. I wonder if any of the patch mods fixes this.
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sitchelin posted:Beyond the beef is the single buggiest piece of poo poo quest there is. I just leave Arcade in the closet so everyone has a healthy option for dinner. That is a cruel thing to do to an openly gay man,
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Yeah I also had to push Ted, but it worked for me.Mierenneuker posted:That is a cruel thing to do to an openly gay man, lol
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I think... I think I just won't do Beyond the Beef.
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Every bethesda engine game has the one quest that is unimaginably buggy and never got fixed for some reason and I love it.
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I managed to finish Beyond The Beef this time without aggoring everyone. Not on my first try, but I found several ways I could gently caress it all up, lol. It didn't help I did exactly what I did last time without even realizing. Pretty much rode on in, pickpocketed whoever and got the keys and then hosed around in the kitchen before realizing I shouldn't necessarily be doing this, especially when I technically don't know why I'm poisoning the wine and haven't talked to anyone but Ted yet. Seemed like opening or going through any red door, not in stealth, would piss people off. Trouble was, I never talked to what's her face to get an invite into the society, so all of those doors would piss everyone off. I also started the dinner poo poo too early, so she was in that banquet room where I couldn't just get clearance. Wearing the outfit seemed to just have mixed, undesireable results. Also, the waiter flips out when he sees you, so you have to hide for that. He also fucks up if you take the off the little pan and you cant just place it back on. It's also weird how the chef just runs away to cry in an adjacent room to stare at the wall and give half-broken dialogue of other strategies to get him to leave. Since I wasn't supposed to be in that room, the only way to not aggro everyone was to stealth in via kitchen with ted, wait for the right time in his speech, then quickly unstealth and talk to him before anyone can really react. I had to retry from an older save though, because the first time, I had hosed around too long and it was later than the dinner is supposed to, so when I went it, he starts his speech but immediately starts booking it for the door to go to bed and gets out before the right time in the speech. I think everyone should do this quest because it offers the most variety of any quest in the game. You never know what's going to happen, it's like opening a box of human chocolates. edit: What were Morrowind's crazy buggy quests, besides general bugginess in the original release. At least on Xbox. I remember Morrowind most for loving lying to me and giving really misleading or inaccurate information regarding where to go in quests. I think I ended up walking almost into the final boss mountain once just trying to find some goddamn tomb for some random assholes quest. Khanstant fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Jul 31, 2015 |
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Beyond the Beef: Get enough approval from Marjorie (or whatever her name is) or Mortimer to be allowed into the area Do whatever with Ted If you are rescuing him, go to stealth before going into the dining hall area, and wait until Mortimer talks about how everyone has eaten a dude (that being said it has hosed up for me a number of times, though not anytime recently)
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Delsaber posted:I just did Beyond the Beef the other day and also had some weird scripting problems. Beyond the Beef is one of the buggiest quests in Fallout NV. I avoid it because lots of White Gloves can attack you randomly even when you didn't do anything or they won't even attack at all. Interesting quest though, I can't say I hated it.
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I only have the Old World Blues quest remaining in OWB, once I do it will I be able to return to the Big MT anytime? There's some more exploring I'd like to do, but I would really like to take a break in the Mojave for a bit before I finish exploring Big MT.
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