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daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari
Tonight's Goals:

1) Remove the black body trim
2) Take apart the rear bumper

a Pile of trim



It was a little scary taking it all off, but not as bad as I thought it would be.



I'm thinking that I should replace these window brush things before they scratch up the glass.



The door panel




One Rusty bumper beam




After washing with Dawn. All the body shop guys tell me to use Dawn because of the Grease removing stuff in it.

And, more shop supplies. Epoxy and plastic repair stuff, and some glazing putty for the bondo on the car. I prefer sand my bondo to 180 ish and use the glazing putty on the sanding scratches. Then I sand it again, Epoxy primer the whole thing, and send it again.

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c355n4
Jan 3, 2007

Your windows aren't scratched to gently caress already? :psyduck:

Mine are already terminal. I forget exactly what people use to replace the pads. I've seen felt and fake fur used.

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen
Maybe the "loop" side of some Velcro?

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
It never occurred to me before now that that is why my windows are all scratched up.

I bet part of a whiteboard eraser would work great.

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

RS25's DIY windowpad replacement using fake fur:

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f105/t46901-diy-repair-window-pads.html

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari
I'll add the fake fur to my list. So much to do!.

Every now and then, I get to the point in my projects where I say "OHGOD this is never going to be finished." The answer, of course, is to order a bunch of new parts.


New lightweight off road only dealer rear bumper beam. The Cost? Cheap. $25 bucks a week interest free. I assume it isn't much, since my wife goes into the invoices and makes sure we don't get charged above dealer cost and no shipping charges.



What's in the boxes? Pretty taillights with none of that horrid orange.



And now, the problem that I've been putting off for way too long. What to do about the gap between the rear bumper cover and the quarter panel. Have a look





It's really not THAT bad, but I think I want to redo this section to close the gap a bit. I'm going to cut off where that line is and weld some more metal in. This will most likely wreck the body fill in the immediate area. Oh well, that's the way it goes.

c355n4
Jan 3, 2007

daslog - what you up to Memorial Day? I'll be up at Lime Rock Park for an event and I can probably haul up all my leftover poo poo from gutting the car if you wanna drive down to the track. You're welcome to all of it. Quick list

Black moonroof (worked)
Rear interior cards
Interior trim crap (some are messed up)
Trunk lining crap
Roof foam thing (foam is fine, the gray is a bit dirtied in spots)
Buncha random little poo poo (glovebox, rear view mirror, blah blah)
Tire donut
Whatever else I find

I'll probably make it up to West Dover, VT at some point over the summer if that is a bad date.

Oh, can you/your wife get the following part? 57220FA130 (Aluminum Hood)?

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

c355n4 posted:

daslog - what you up to Memorial Day? I'll be up at Lime Rock Park for an event and I can probably haul up all my leftover poo poo from gutting the car if you wanna drive down to the track. You're welcome to all of it. Quick list

Black moonroof (worked)
Rear interior cards
Interior trim crap (some are messed up)
Trunk lining crap
Roof foam thing (foam is fine, the gray is a bit dirtied in spots)
Buncha random little poo poo (glovebox, rear view mirror, blah blah)
Tire donut
Whatever else I find

I'll probably make it up to West Dover, VT at some point over the summer if that is a bad date.

Oh, can you/your wife get the following part? 57220FA130 (Aluminum Hood)?

I'll let you know on the hood. At this point, I'm actually ok on parts as I don't think I'll ever do this amount of Rust repair again, so the 98 is going to end up being a Rally car.

c355n4
Jan 3, 2007

daslog posted:

I'll let you know on the hood. At this point, I'm actually ok on parts as I don't think I'll ever do this amount of Rust repair again, so the 98 is going to end up being a Rally car.

Haha, I was gonna ask if you wanted to fix my rear quarter rust :p

Looks good so far.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

c355n4 posted:

Haha, I was gonna ask if you wanted to fix my rear quarter rust :p

Looks good so far.

My son wants me to flare his rear quarters too. Take a number!

Here is a question for you Subaru experts: Since I have access to all these dealer parts, should I be ordering some WRX stuff for my RS?

c355n4
Jan 3, 2007

daslog posted:

My son wants me to flare his rear quarters too. Take a number!

Here is a question for you Subaru experts: Since I have access to all these dealer parts, should I be ordering some WRX stuff for my RS?

You can widen the track with some of the control arms and so forth. I never really explored it since it throws my classing way off. Might be worth asking in the bigger subaru thread.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
GD sedan control arms are quite a bit wider than the GC/GD wagon ones are. If you go up to '06 GD WRX or 04-06 STI you can get aluminum control arms to boot. From what I understand you do not have to change out the front axles, though it might be a good idea to.

Might be worthwhile figuring out if you can scam a 4.44 rear diff from a Forester XT and pair it with an appropriate ring & pinion set for the 5-speed. There's also some 4.11 rear LSDs that are probably clogging up Subaru warehouses.

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

I'd honestly just finish the car.

wrx upgrades? maybe a wrx rear bar which is 17mm and fine if you don't plan to touch the rest of the suspension. Like SS said, GD control arms and rear links for a wider track width, have fun breaking the big rear end rear bolts.

Get a 4.44 LSD rear diff and give it to me, I'm looking for one.

2000 and 2001 RS rear diffs are 4.11 LSD.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
to widen the rear track it is a good idea to change the axles. the only thing holding them into the diff is a snap ring and it's pretty common for them to pop out with adjustable lateral links and such. Plus from a handling standpoint a wider front track is a good thing.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

c355n4 posted:


Oh, can you/your wife get the following part? 57220FA130 (Aluminum Hood)?

Here is the answer I got: $375 and everyone who asks gets the Carbon Fiber hood instead.

PS: I have no way to ship it to you.

c355n4
Jan 3, 2007

daslog posted:

Here is the answer I got: $375 and everyone who asks gets the Carbon Fiber hood instead.

PS: I have no way to ship it to you.

You guys actually have it in stock?! Surprisingly, the aluminum hood is often lighter than the lovely carbon fiber hoods.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

c355n4 posted:

You guys actually have it in stock?! Surprisingly, the aluminum hood is often lighter than the lovely carbon fiber hoods.

In stock? No. It would have to be ordered.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari
OK, so now that I've decided to paint the entire car, my focus has been to get the bodywork done to the point where I can wash the car. It's critical that it be washed with Dawn (or some other degreaser soap) before sanding the paint down for a respray.

First, fix my mistake on the quarter panel.



Mask of the paint that I don't want overspray on. I don't need to worry about spraying in a dirty garage since the primer will be sanded anyway.






One coat of Primer!


Two coats. You can still see the outlines of the Bondo. Another coat will cover that after the sanding.




Next up, washing and filling in a million pinholes like these.

c355n4
Jan 3, 2007

daslog posted:



If you want, now is a good time to change out the stock fender braces with something nicer. Easier to do with the front quarters off. I forget what your plan for the car was.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

c355n4 posted:

If you want, now is a good time to change out the stock fender braces with something nicer. Easier to do with the front quarters off. I forget what your plan for the car was.

I'm interested! What are my options?

c355n4
Jan 3, 2007

daslog posted:

I'm interested! What are my options?

http://turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=56

I have a pair of those. Maybe ask jamal if he has any other options. Or you could try making a pair yourself. They're aren't anything fancy.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari
Is there really that much flex in the RS?

Octopus Magic
Dec 19, 2003

I HATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU LIKE* AND I NEED TO BE SURE YOU ALL KNOW THAT EVERY TIME I POST

*unless it's a DSM in which case we cool ^_^

daslog posted:

Is there really that much flex in the RS?

They were called the "watermelon chassis" in Japan from their amount of flex.

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

daslog posted:

Is there really that much flex in the RS?

loving idiots don't believe me when I say the GD chassis is a better chassis.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Slow is Fast posted:

loving idiots don't believe me when I say the GD chassis is a better chassis.
Anyone who drives one back to back should be fully convinced that this is absolute fact.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire

c355n4 posted:

http://turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?products_id=56

I have a pair of those. Maybe ask jamal if he has any other options. Or you could try making a pair yourself. They're aren't anything fancy.

Turn in Concepts is the best. Also I carry their parts.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Octopus Magic posted:

They were called the "watermelon chassis" in Japan from their amount of flex.
But the Japanese love watermelon? :confused:

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari
With the RS in primer, it was safe to wash it. This is a pretty big milestone for this project. I should have it in paint by July.

First the hood. Blocked the entire thing with the long Durablock. You can see the high spots in the picture, as they are sanded through to the metal.



The way I fix these is to gently tap them down with a body hammer and then use fill to smooth them out.



And sanded down.



Sunday was much less fun. Another fight with my son who was pissed that I was using my own driveway to work on my car. Oh well.

This is my daily driver. It's inspection month, and 12 years of New England has led too..




The rocker



I made this piece using a block of wood as a template. If I gave two shits about this car, I would have worked harder on the arch



Welded



I didn't get a pick of the long strand bondo, but I'll take some pictures of it in primer after I bondo it.

daslog fucked around with this message at 04:54 on May 14, 2012

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

I almost bought an RS with about the same level of rust as the forester.

The big issue I didn't like was that rocker rust. See how it has rusted away one of the mounting points for the subframe plate bolts? Those two bolts hold the front subframe to the chassis and I DIDNT want to touch that on a car. I highly suggest welding a plate in there and retapping the bolt holes for that subframe plate as you really don't want the other 12mm bolt to rust/sheer off and your subframe start flopping.

Also, your son needs to stfu. I do all my work at my folks house and my dad's projects come first. I am LUCKY to be able to use his garage and tools to work on my stupid cars. Have him read this paragraph.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

Slow is Fast posted:

I almost bought an RS with about the same level of rust as the forester.

The big issue I didn't like was that rocker rust. See how it has rusted away one of the mounting points for the subframe plate bolts? Those two bolts hold the front subframe to the chassis and I DIDNT want to touch that on a car. I highly suggest welding a plate in there and retapping the bolt holes for that subframe plate as you really don't want the other 12mm bolt to rust/sheer off and your subframe start flopping.

Also, your son needs to stfu. I do all my work at my folks house and my dad's projects come first. I am LUCKY to be able to use his garage and tools to work on my stupid cars. Have him read this paragraph.

I did notice that Subframe mounting point. I need to research how difficulty it would be to remove that piece of the subframe to get in there to do the work.

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

daslog posted:

I did notice that Subframe mounting point. I need to research how difficulty it would be to remove that piece of the subframe to get in there to do the work.

Just take the plate off.

It's three bolts. Big bolt into the subframe, and two little side bolts that hold the plate on. You shouldn't have to mess with the actual subframe itself.

Moxie Omen
Mar 15, 2008

daslog posted:

This is my daily driver. It's inspection month, and 12 years of New England has led too..


I feel like this is just a normal part of life living in New England.

"Hmm, yes, my car seems to have rusted in half. I'll be in the workshop for a few hours if you need me."

Octopus Magic
Dec 19, 2003

I HATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU LIKE* AND I NEED TO BE SURE YOU ALL KNOW THAT EVERY TIME I POST

*unless it's a DSM in which case we cool ^_^

InitialDave posted:

But the Japanese love watermelon? :confused:

I love udon noodles but I wouldn't use them as something I described as stiff still.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Octopus Magic posted:

I love udon noodles but I wouldn't use them as something I described as stiff still.
Ramen to that.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari
Spent all 3 days this weekend working on the car. I didn't take a lot of pics thought.

Day 1 was Sunroof day. Lot's of cleaning, lubrication, and finally a swap between the 98 and the 99. (that's a random EJ25 we have laying around in the background, not related to this project)




I also swapped the headliners and the little thing that goes on the sunroof. The old one had cigarette burns. Lots of cleaning was involved.



I found this little treasure of monster cable in the 98. Someone put in O2 or (OZ?) brand speakers and passive crossovers and a VR3 amp. The red wire is a 4 gauge, so that's getting used in the 99 as well.

Anyone know if this stuff is poo poo?




POR-15 is a rip off. You are always better off using a 2 part Epoxy primer and just brushing it on when needed. It will only cost you $100 for two sprayable gallons, and it's an actual Epoxy.

Here I brushed it on in the trunk area.





Next, I did the fur trick for the window brushes that was suggested earlier is this thread. Thanks Cessna! (no pictures)

This leads me to my current problem. Two missing bolts on the passenger side window regulator and 2 stripped bolts on the driver's side. This might explain the scratches in the windows not related to the brushes I replaced.

I'm thinking that I'll have to use the tap and die on the stripped threads for the drivers side, and replace the bolts with bigger ones. On the passenger side, I'll just replace 2. I think this is a common problem with Subarus of this era.

top two bolts spin freely


Missing two on this side

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

Is that random ej25 for sale? SOHC? I need all of them.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

Slow is Fast posted:

Is that random ej25 for sale? SOHC? I need all of them.

It's DOHC, and it may have overheated, but it's not seized.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari
So I just had the brilliant idea of going to the 98 (which is fast becoming a parts car) and stealing some bolts from there. Drivers door only has 2 out of 4 bolts, same as the passenger side.

:wtc:

Alphius
Nov 5, 2009
The wire is good wire, can't screw that up too bad. :)

The VR3 amp is Wal-Mart brand, I own that exact same one. I bought it for $40 brand new off the shelf about 5 years ago. It is a pile of junk, doesn't put out anywhere near the power that it says it does (more like maybe 25-30W/channel). On the bright side, I use mine for testing random speakers and it still works to this day, but please don't use it for anything a real person will be listening to.

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c355n4
Jan 3, 2007

daslog posted:

So I just had the brilliant idea of going to the 98 (which is fast becoming a parts car) and stealing some bolts from there. Drivers door only has 2 out of 4 bolts, same as the passenger side.

:wtc:

Haha, I'll have to check my door at some point.

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