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Stokes
Jun 13, 2003

Maybe Kris can come in, and we can throw M-80s at his asshole.

EC posted:

Apparently i didn't have the shield equipped correctly, it's showing up now. Made a Lofehunt and upped it to +5 to mess around with. Any tips?


As far as PVP goes, mix up your attacks, and keep the pressure on. The blood meter can't fill up if you don't keep hitting them. Also the RB attack is surprisingly good at draining your opponents stamina.

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Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

Umberger posted:

The Cursed/True variants are just fan-given differentiations between the two you can make. They have different descriptions, stat requirements, and scaling (plus hidden bonus damage to certain types of enemies I believe). Also congratulations on Platinum.

Not hidden, it's there on the stat page. The Regular Sword deals it's magic damage as White. Bonus against all forms of undead and keeps Skeletons down. The Cursed version deals Black damage, bonus against 'godly' creatures, mostly those found in Anor Londo.

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011



How come I can't put my Red Sign down in the Kiln?

Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008


If that DLC rumor is true I might explode from happiness before I get a chance to play it. This is the only time I'd blindly and happily buy DLC.

Gestalt Intellect
Sep 14, 2011

Seven would be the most realistic answer.
Eight? Nine?

...Six?


Fiction posted:

How come I can't put my Red Sign down in the Kiln?

Are you human? You have to be to use it.

I can't think of a reason for that design decision, almost nobody uses the red sign and that requirement isn't helping.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend


The biggest thing I'll be interested in (besides the obvious new content) is any change to the existing net code. Hopefully it'll be easier to summon/be summoned.

@Stokes: thanks for the advice, I'm playing around with it now and it's pretty cool.

Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

They fixed the netcode. It's fine now.

Really, if it were a problem inherent with the netcode nobody would have stable, lag free PvP or Co-op. Since that isn't the case, it's got to be either you or the other guy's fault.

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011



I just had a fun, fair fight in the Kiln that I even won. What the hell?

Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

All fights are fair and fun when you win. It's only cheating when the other guy wins.

Seriously though Dark Souls PvP rules and more people should enjoy it. It's not even a big deal if you die!

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend


So if I summon someone, and then we lose at the boss, and I get "summon failed" every time I try to summon the same guy after that, it's my fault?

So I was brought into Dark Anor Londo by some random dude tonight. I figured he had been invaded, so we set about trying to find the invader. No luck, and then someone else invaded. He led us on a merry chase towards the Anor Londo archers (which don't really faze my crystal homing soulmass that much) and we ended up killing him.

We went back to the main hall, but at that point I was bored so I crystal'd out. Is there something else I should have done? I went around breaking vases in case the guy was using chameleon, but after 10 minutes or so I was done. I just feel bad for leaving that dude to defend himself.

Chard
Aug 24, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 44 hours!


EC posted:

So if I summon someone, and then we lose at the boss, and I get "summon failed" every time I try to summon the same guy after that, it's my fault?

It could be that guy's fault, if he's moving his sign, or putting it in the same spot over and over. That's exactly what would happen if he were.

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

bruh think im gay cuz im grindin in my tiny pants
bet im the only goon nigga in these tiny pants


Whoa, I just got to the fortress and switched out my drake sword for a black knight sword. I'm not sure if I'm any more effective in combat but I am having a LOT more fun

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011



Okay, yeah, gonna stick to not using the Red Soapstone. :I

Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

EC posted:

So if I summon someone, and then we lose at the boss, and I get "summon failed" every time I try to summon the same guy after that, it's my fault?


He might be declining. If I go to assist someone at a boss and they die in a particularly terrible fashion, I'll general decline invites from them immediately afterwards.

Chard
Aug 24, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 44 hours!


Is that an Xbox thing? You don't get a say once the summon is in on a PS3.

Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

If you reactivate your white soapstone, it fucks up the summon.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend


I dunno, man, I guess you're right. But I've had people be in contact with me and have it continually fail. It doesn't seem limited to me, either.

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


The reveal when you enter Anor Londo made me say "Holy poo poo" aloud. Awesome.

Also, I just accidentally got sucked into a painting. Uh... how do I get back out?

Barudak
May 7, 2007

No no, I'm Sean Mexico. You must have me mistaken for someone else.

Day Man posted:

The reveal when you enter Anor Londo made me say "Holy poo poo" aloud. Awesome.

Also, I just accidentally got sucked into a painting. Uh... how do I get back out?

Finish the area. The boss won't attack you and will let you leave unless you attack her. So finish up, exit, and you can come back or just kill her (she's pretty easy)

Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

Day Man posted:

The reveal when you enter Anor Londo made me say "Holy poo poo" aloud. Awesome.

Also, I just accidentally got sucked into a painting. Uh... how do I get back out?

By beating the level.

Mzbundifund
Nov 5, 2011

I'm afraid so.


You have to get past the boss to get out! Notice I say "past", the boss is non-hostile unless you attack first, and will happily let you walk by and leave the painting.

Fibby Boy
Jan 7, 2012

Mmm... Offshore Toast!


I just tried the slumbering dragoncrest ring thing with the mushroom people and they still aggro'd me.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend


If you're going for achievements/trophies, though, you might want to look up how to cut off the Painted World's boss' tail.

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.



EC posted:

If you're going for achievements/trophies, though, you might want to look up how to cut off the Painted World's boss' tail.

Yeah, bearing in mind that you can always come back later and do it. If you just want to get the hell out and get back to adventuring, then just walk past her and add getting that item to your list of things to take care of before you end the game so you have them in NG+.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

HERO OF THE IMPERIUM


So, I imagine there isn't much ingame I can do while waiting for summons in a lot of areas, is there? I really need to get my laptop out here while I'm waiting.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

No no, I'm Sean Mexico. You must have me mistaken for someone else.

Ledneh posted:

So, I imagine there isn't much ingame I can do while waiting for summons in a lot of areas, is there? I really need to get my laptop out here while I'm waiting.

Depends. If you're in the great swamp or Anor Londo why not run through and clear it out. You'll be relying on the other person's Estus anyway. If you mean making actual progress, sadly no.

MysteryNad
Dec 5, 2003

There was something about his face. I couldn't quite put my finger on it.

Just did some PvP in the forest. Invaded a guy with a phantom who must have been around level 600 something. Managed to finish both of them and got like 1.5 million souls. That's never happened before. Forest rules.

Sheep-Goats
Jul 28, 2003



Ledneh posted:

Is there much anywhere in the way of enemies that are resistant to both physical and fire damage, i.e. enemies you'd really want a source of magic damage for?

(edit) Also, Zweihander. Better in one hand or two? I find I'm not very good at quickly putting my shield away and getting it back out in time to block.

For PvP two handed. For PvM one handed and all you ever really use is R2 or foreward and R2 unless you're backstabbing.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend


Ledneh posted:

So, I imagine there isn't much ingame I can do while waiting for summons in a lot of areas, is there? I really need to get my laptop out here while I'm waiting.

Not really. If you're waiting for the gaping dragon, you can farm humanity off the two clusters of rats near the bonfire, and green shards from the slimes. If you're waiting for Quelaag, there's lots of loot to go grab that is otherwise fairly tedious. In Anor Londo you can farm the knights for quite a few souls apiece, but it's rather boring work. And if you're relying on sorceries, your castings do NOT refresh, so be careful there.

Otherwise waiting for summons is basically what the iPad was made for. Why do you think I post in this thread so much?

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011



Moonlight Greatsword seems to be working pretty well for Kiln PvP. Should I be two-handing it?

artism
Nov 22, 2011



Fiction posted:

Moonlight Greatsword seems to be working pretty well for Kiln PvP. Should I be two-handing it?

2handing or 1handing a weapon depends almost entirely on the situation and your confidence in your roll dodges. No one can tell you how to PVP just do it a lot and figure out what you're comfortable with.

BigLeafyTree
Oct 21, 2010


MysteryNad posted:

Just did some PvP in the forest. Invaded a guy with a phantom who must have been around level 600 something. Managed to finish both of them and got like 1.5 million souls. That's never happened before. Forest rules.

PvP gives you a portion of the other player's souls, but they don't lose any. People that just do PvP run into people who only do PvP and the amount of souls each player has just keeps increasing exponentially, so every once in a while you'll kill a dude and earn several million souls.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend


Wanna send a shutout to "enderfan576" who summoned me two or three times for the fight against O&S. Each time, we'd get to the fog door and he'd whip out the Channeler's Trident and do the special dance.

EC fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2012 around 05:13

SixtySix
Jun 4, 2005



EC posted:

Wanna send a shutout to "enderfaf576" who summoned me two or three times for the fight against O&S. Each time, we'd get to the fog door and he'd whip out the Channeler's Trident and do the special dance.



I loving WANT a trident, Moonlight GS, and Priscilla's dagger. Anyone got one to trade? I got a lot of stuff

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011



artism posted:

2handing or 1handing a weapon depends almost entirely on the situation and your confidence in your roll dodges. No one can tell you how to PVP just do it a lot and figure out what you're comfortable with.

Er, alright. I've mostly been turtling which has basically given me a 50/50 win/loss ratio, so I don't know about rolling. I guess I'll just try different stuff and see what sticks.

SixtySix posted:

I loving WANT a trident, Moonlight GS, and Priscilla's dagger. Anyone got one to trade? I got a lot of stuff

I have an extra Moonlight GS, but I'm going to bed now. If you have a character near SL120 hit me up tomorrow.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend


SixtySix posted:

I loving WANT a trident, Moonlight GS, and Priscilla's dagger. Anyone got one to trade? I got a lot of stuff

Are you on the 360? My SL98 character has a moonlight GS I could let go of. Don't really need anything besides humanity, though.

It's nice getting a message that says "HOLY CRAP THAT WAS SWEET" after you assist someone.

EC fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2012 around 05:17

artism
Nov 22, 2011



Does anyone have a link to any definitive proof that it's quicker to circle a regular shield than a great shield? I'm almost certain that the timing to get into baackstab range is at least a quarter second different between the two.

RembrandtQEinstein
Jul 1, 2009


MysteryNad posted:

Just did some PvP in the forest. Invaded a guy with a phantom who must have been around level 600 something. Managed to finish both of them and got like 1.5 million souls. That's never happened before. Forest rules.

Whenever I invade somebody on my lower level runs I usually have 250-500k souls sitting in the bank. I can only imagine their reaction if they beat me

People who farm me can gently caress off but whatever, as long as they do funny dances over my body I'm cool

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

HERO OF THE IMPERIUM


Dang, I just got all of the Gargoyle Tail Axe, Gargoyle Halberd, and Gargoyle Helmet from, er, guess which boss. I feel like I won the poo poo lottery, except for the helm I guess sort of maybe. vv

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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

Fighting Rikti forever, That's just what Giant Robo CoX do.

My favorite part of Dark Souls PvP is when someone invades me or a player I'm helping and isn't prepared for my fuckoff-strong sorcery that proceeds to one-shot them. After sucking at pretty muche verything else, seeing someone just melt at my gaze like that is great.

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