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I'm at O&S, one humanity left and I've already tried summoning my way to victory twice to little success (got it down to just Smough on the first attempt). I don't know what I'm going to do if this next summon fails and I have no humanity left  Doesn't help that one of the dudes was just a guy jumping around in a robe with the Dragon's Tooth 2H'ing nonstop, he got owned pretty quickly.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 02:10 |
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| # ? May 21, 2013 14:36 |
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The Duke posted:I'm at O&S, one humanity left and I've already tried summoning my way to victory twice to little success (got it down to just Smough on the first attempt). I don't know what I'm going to do if this next summon fails and I have no humanity left What level are you?
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 02:12 |
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The Duke posted:I'm at O&S, one humanity left and I've already tried summoning my way to victory twice to little success (got it down to just Smough on the first attempt). I don't know what I'm going to do if this next summon fails and I have no humanity left Try doing some assisting on O&S yourself. It's a risk-free way to learn the boss, and every time you win you'll get a humanity as well as 25000 souls (almost certainly worth a levelup or two where you are).
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 02:14 |
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Gestalt Intellect posted:Try doing some assisting on O&S yourself. It's a risk-free way to learn the boss, and every time you win you'll get a humanity as well as 25000 souls (almost certainly worth a levelup or two where you are). Thanks, I didn't think I could be summoned until I beat the boss myself for some reason (haven't even used the white soapstone yet) Also I'm level 55 but probably won't be playing anymore tonight.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 02:17 |
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Project Dagger has hit a speed bump at O&S. I'm also determined to kill Ornstein first. I offed him once, but Smough's electric butt slam of death got me. Here's to tomorrow!
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 02:20 |
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The Duke posted:Doesn't help that one of the dudes was just a guy jumping around in a robe with the Dragon's Tooth 2H'ing nonstop, he got owned pretty quickly. That's how I soloed them on my first character, but you reallly need the fast roll or flip to not die horribly.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 02:27 |
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The Duke posted:Thanks, I didn't think I could be summoned until I beat the boss myself for some reason (haven't even used the white soapstone yet) Well if you decide to get on tomorrow and want to take another crack at them, send me a message (assuming you are on xbox). GT is OnionBro, I'll give you some humanity and we can engage in jolly cooperation!
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 02:28 |
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I happened to be human a second time while going for Sif, so I inevitably had to deal with invaders (coming in from the hydra side) while I dealt with the cat things in the way. It went just as hilariously well as the first time--Hit a cabbage to make a health bar appear where I am, go down to the stone pillar choke point at the bottom of the ladder, and Force them into the river when they come bumbling around the pillar. I put two points into faith just so I could use Heal while assisting, but I'm so glad I bought Force too.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 02:36 |
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Has it been easier to coop with designated people aka coop in demon souls since the patch? or is it still more or less random based on the shifting servers.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 02:45 |
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I've arranged two meetups in Dark Souls that went swimmingly. Just arrange for an unusual soapstone spot.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 02:49 |
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Sheep-Goats posted:I've arranged two meetups in Dark Souls that went swimmingly. Just arrange for an unusual soapstone spot. That's great to hear, used to consider it impossible to even find a buddy on the new system. Guess that wasn't how devs intended and must have changed it.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 02:52 |
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I made a pure strength bandit character called POWERSAURUS. It's pretty awesome to be one-handing a Zweihander +3 after defeating the gargoyles. He moves kind of slow, but that's okay. I can one shot almost everything right now. Strength/Vitality/Endurance is 24/16/17 currently. Are there any other good shields I can get in the near future besides the eagle shield? I'm planning on skipping most of blighttown as usual. I have the knight shield right now.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 03:04 |
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M6thrXeat posted:Has it been easier to coop with designated people aka coop in demon souls since the patch? or is it still more or less random based on the shifting servers. I met up with a goon for a trade a few days back. Easy peasy!
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 03:08 |
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actionjackson posted:I made a pure strength bandit character called POWERSAURUS. It's pretty awesome to be one-handing a Zweihander +3 after defeating the gargoyles. He moves kind of slow, but that's okay. I can one shot almost everything right now. Strength/Vitality/Endurance is 24/16/17 currently. If you're going pure  , might as well put a grass crest shield on your back and 2-hand the Zwie.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 03:20 |
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:If you're going pure Yeah that's probably a good idea, though there are certain situations where one-handing is a bit better, like with multiple enemies. Probably worth heading down there anyway so I can get Havel's ring.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 03:39 |
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If you just want a huge gently caress off shield and have the strength for it, use the Greatshield of Artorias. It has the highest stability in the game.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 03:53 |
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Yeah that thing owns pretty hard, but again I'm not sure how much I'm going to be using a shield at least for now. I don't know, the Zwei is pretty slow so it's real power is in two-handing.
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Yeah this is my first character that I've made the Greatshield of Artorias for, and this poo poo owns so far. I tanked Gwyn like a loving champ.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 04:18 |
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Let me also pledge my love for the Greatshield of Artorias. I am real bad at parrying so it really has no downside for me. I just got cursed by a Gravelord for the first time, in Anor Londo - extremely fun. I was running back from the blacksmith and literally ran into a red phantom silver knight. There were LOTS of them, and red phantom sentinels too. I was disappointed that I never found the guy's marker though. Is there any reliable way to find them, or do you just have to comb every inch of the level?
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 04:35 |
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Gilgameshback posted:Let me also pledge my love for the Greatshield of Artorias. I am real bad at parrying so it really has no downside for me. It's wherever they decided to place it in their game, so you'd have to think "where would I want to hide a horrible curse" and go hunting. Anor Londo seems like it has a lot of devious hiding spots, too.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 04:37 |
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Fargin Icehole posted:Haven't played in awhile, I made a new character and started all over again, killed the beginning bosses in one try. I still got it. It's one of the best. Elite Knight isn't that good though and you are only at 40 poise which is sort of bad if you're going the 50% route. Knight Armor weighs less and has the same poise. But if you like the look of Elite Knight, I recommend subbing either the legs or the hands for a piece of Havels. artism fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2012 around 04:46 |
| # ? Feb 20, 2012 04:44 |
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I guess when it comes to having a super strength/armor guy, am I better off one-handing with a shield, or just two-handing and using my armor as my primary defence? Something like the black iron set you can pick up right by the ariamis painting.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 04:46 |
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anybody have a Channeler's Trident they want to trade? I've got a Grant and Sanctus for em
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 04:46 |
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actionjackson posted:Yeah that's probably a good idea, though there are certain situations where one-handing is a bit better, like with multiple enemies. Probably worth heading down there anyway so I can get Havel's ring. Nah, wearing a shield in this game even against multiple enemies is rarely better with the Zwei. Part of the Zwei's appeal is that it's ground slam has super range, so just time it to come down on the two enemies. Besides, grass crest is still good for blocking. 95% DR is good enough even if you really need to use it.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 04:49 |
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Just finished the game by picking up all the achievements on a single character (I had most already but Knights Honor takes 2 playthroughs + up to Smough and Ornstein so why not). Ugh, gently caress you Knights Honor.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 04:50 |
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actionjackson posted:I guess when it comes to having a super strength/armor guy, am I better off one-handing with a shield, or just two-handing and using my armor as my primary defence? If you're really confident with your dodging abilities, you might as well two-hand it. If you want to parry/riposte or are in a poor situation (multiple enemies, particularly those who block you, tight hallway where backing up is not an option, etc) then use the shield. Luckily it's not too terribly inconvenient to switch from two-handing a weapon to one-hand+shield. I'd personally use the one-hand+shield combo for a majority enemies in this game. The bonus damage from two-handing is nice but there's a lot more room for error with a shield.
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actionjackson posted:I guess when it comes to having a super strength/armor guy, am I better off one-handing with a shield, or just two-handing and using my armor as my primary defence? Something like the black iron set you can pick up right by the ariamis painting. You're better off with the shield out, but your character transitions really, really fast between shield+weapon to two handing weapon. You can crush most of the game by blocking, hitting with the two hand swing, and going right back to blocking.
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Alright, thanks. Grass Crest shield should do fine until at least the very end, and it should offset the stamina loss from the black iron armor when I finally get it. I'm pretty good with dodging.
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actionjackson posted:Alright, thanks. Grass Crest shield should do fine until at least the very end, and it should offset the stamina loss from the black iron armor when I finally get it. Honestly, I'd recommend grass crest until whenever you can get your hands on a Mask of the Child. Then you can wear Eagle shield while still getting the stamina regen benefit and have you stability skyrocket.
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Black Iron set for life Assuming I have Havel's ring, it's pretty much the best set for physical defense outside of Havel's and it also has good resistance. Actually the black iron shield has better stability than the eagle shield as well (barely).
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Wildtortilla posted:Project Dagger has hit a speed bump at O&S. I'm also determined to kill Ornstein first. I offed him once, but Smough's electric butt slam of death got me. Here's to tomorrow! Smough is much easier to kill, especially since the game hands you a lightning spear that he is super weak to. And Ornstein's equipment looks MUCH cooler. On NG+ they are monsters because their health is so much higher and they rip straight through your stamina. Assisting people feels like playing Monster Hunter because even with the best weapons the fight takes 10 minutes. quote:Assuming I have Havel's ring, it's pretty much the best set for physical defense outside of Havel's The poise rating won't be as high but as far as defense, if you upgrade the set it puts Havel's set to total shame. Bobnumerotres fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2012 around 05:07 |
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Bobnumerotres posted:Smough is much easier to kill, especially since the game hands you a lightning spear that he is super weak to. And Ornstein's equipment looks MUCH cooler. They're very weak to bleed and fire. I was assisted by someone with the Lifehunt Scythe and they dropped like bad trash.
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Barudak posted:They're very weak to bleed and fire. I was assisted by someone with the Lifehunt Scythe and they dropped like bad trash. I've honestly never even used bleed for anything and I keep hearing on here that it's actually really useful against the tougher fuckers in the game. I guess I'm still bitter from Demon's Souls "bleed is good for highlighting someone" approach, I'm aware it's radically different and deals damage based on health percentages now. Bobnumerotres fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2012 around 05:12 |
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artism posted:Here's some helpful hints about PVP for those of you who think you suck. I assure you that most people who are killing you are using really easy to learn/ easy to master gimmicks, and there are simple counters.
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Bobnumerotres posted:I've honestly never even used bleed for anything and I keep hearing on here that it's actually really useful against the tougher fuckers in the game. I guess I'm still bitter from Demon's Souls "bleed is good for highlighting someone" approach, I'm aware it's radically different and deals damage based on health percentages now. I was the same way until I rocked a bandit knife on a test character. Bleeds are the poo poo now. You should give Priscilla's or Lifehunt a try sometime, they're basically boss-rapists.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I got invaded by the same guy 3 times (so lost in dukes archives) and the first two times I just mashed BKGA until he died while he kept missing parries. For some reason I thought this meant I couldn't be parried, I then invaded a guy who parried my first hit and killed me :/ This is going to sound terribly elitist but BKGA is one of those weapons where you just sort of know what people are going to do with it. It's one of the weapons I almost always try and parry on the first swing because usually the dude just positions right up to you and starts mashing. The dude who parried you is probably rocking hornet ring. Anyways, just try to mash less or at least don't mash right in front of them. Try and hit them at sort of an angle if you can. Try and feel out what your opponent likes to do before attacking. Theres a lot of ways to avoid getting parried.
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doomfunk posted:Bleeds are the poo poo now. Is it really? I read that Sif was susceptible to bleed, but carving him up with a Bandit Knife +10 didn't do jack. I had to kill him the old fashioned way (with fire).
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artism posted:This is going to sound terribly elitist but BKGA is one of those weapons where you just sort of know what people are going to do with it. It's one of the weapons I almost always try and parry on the first swing because usually the dude just positions right up to you and starts mashing. Yeah I wasn't too familiar with it myself, I had just leveled up enough to start using it and saw an "invasion" message so decided to try it out. Since it worked so well on the first guy I thought I was invincible, and I was not  What about Pyromancy? When I'm playing normally my usual loadout is Weapon/Pyro in right and Shield/Bow in left, bows seem useless for PVP, and when I did try Chaos Fireball it looked like it was just really easy to roll out of the way unless I was on a narrow staircase. I'm not planning on making PVP a big part of the game but it's nice to know these things in case I decide to activel invade. I'd rather help people out in co-op to be honest, if only it ever worked  cgeq posted:Is it really? I read that Sif was susceptible to bleed, but carving him up with a Bandit Knife +10 didn't do jack. I had to kill him the old fashioned way (with fire). You know how when you get hit a little bar fills up and then drains? Enemies are the same way, you have to hit him a bunch of times in succession or the bleed won't take effect.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 06:12 |
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Enemies have resistance to stuff just like the player does. Each weapon that can apply bleed applies it toward a bleed% damage spike in varying degrees. Lifehunt and Priscilla's Dagger are particularly good not just because their bleed damage is so huge, but also because they apply a great deal of "bleed resistance damage" to nail that in faster. If you weren't able to get a good number of hits with the bandit knife in while defending against or avoiding Sif's attacks, it's likely her bleed resistance regenerated.
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| # ? Feb 20, 2012 06:13 |
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doomfunk posted:I was the same way until I rocked a bandit knife on a test character. Bleeds are the poo poo now. You should give Priscilla's or Lifehunt a try sometime, they're basically boss-rapists. Yeah but only if you can get in a lot of successive hits, which is a no-no on some bosses. Being greedy with your hits is pretty much the first thing you learn not to do in the game. Also oldie but a goodie. http://harlevin.net/wp-content/uplo...uls-Solaire.png Oh and this guy made the effort to make a little welcome sign for invaders. http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/c6f99a9...61dca92ecc7.jpg Bobnumerotres fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2012 around 06:56 |
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