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Veev posted:There's extra bugs in the shortcut that you need to kill. You have to level up the Chaos covenant and open the door to save Solaire. I don't think you messed anything up though, so if you go back and kill the bugs and get the sunlight maggot helm you may still be good. Or you'll find crazy Solaire and get a new set of armor at least. In my last playthrough I talked to him after centipede demon, then went to the shortcut and killed all the bugs and got the helm, and he was there moping (but not insane?). I never saw him again though. Is moping solaire a sign that you've messed it up? I didn't see him in or before the final boss room.
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redreader posted:In my last playthrough I talked to him after centipede demon, then went to the shortcut and killed all the bugs and got the helm, and he was there moping (but not insane?). I never saw him again though. Is moping solaire a sign that you've messed it up? I didn't see him in or before the final boss room. He's either moping, or actively trying to kill you. I think you did it right if you came through the shortcut from the Demon Ruins side. I think that entering Lost Izalith from the regular entrance is the point at which he goes hostile if you didn't get the Sunlight Maggot. He doesn't appear before the final boss in person, his summon sign does.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 00:26 |
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redreader posted:In my last playthrough I talked to him after centipede demon, then went to the shortcut and killed all the bugs and got the helm, and he was there moping (but not insane?). I never saw him again though. Is moping solaire a sign that you've messed it up? I didn't see him in or before the final boss room. Moping Solaire means you did good. I literally don't even have a clue after that point, but sometimes he just "disappears" and you can summon him in the kiln, and sometimes you can summon him anyway. If he was sitting in that tunnel at some point and not attacking you, you may eventually be able to summon him.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 00:27 |
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Veev posted:Moping Solaire means you did good. I literally don't even have a clue after that point, but sometimes he just "disappears" and you can summon him in the kiln, and sometimes you can summon him anyway. If he was sitting in that tunnel at some point and not attacking you, you may eventually be able to summon him. I did search the entire kiln for his summon sign while unhollow, and I just couldn't find it.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 00:45 |
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Solaire can be a bit buggy with that last bit of his story. I did everything correctly and his sign never showed up for me. Alas. I also messed up Rhea's thing on my first run through, too. Alas.
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Alright, so I downloaded and read the whole noob guide linked in the OP while at the gym, I'm perusing the wiki as I watch the end of the Celtics. Picked up some nice little tips so I'm going to pop this game in pretty soon for the first time. I've never been so apprehensive to start a game.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 00:54 |
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Do yourself a favor and STOP reading guides immediately. This is a game that rewards (read: slaughters without mercy) first-time players who don't know what they're doing, and knowing what to expect takes away a lot of the thrill. I know I'm not alone in wishing I could forget this game and play it over again.
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Waroduce posted:Alright, so I downloaded and read the whole noob guide linked in the OP while at the gym, I'm perusing the wiki as I watch the end of the Celtics. Picked up some nice little tips so I'm going to pop this game in pretty soon for the first time. That guide is a bit outdated. Specifically, the guide talks up the Hollow Soldier Shield as an amazing piece of kit, but it now is pretty rubbish. Still a good guide in principle though.
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redreader posted:I did search the entire kiln for his summon sign while unhollow, and I just couldn't find it. I just did this exact thing. Then I went back and checked the shortcut, and sure enough, Solaire was sitting there, talking about how sad he was. I talked to him, boned out, went straight to the kiln, and his sign was right at the top of the staircase, just before the great axe knight. Then we killed Gwyn together, I praised the sun, then walked away without kindling the fire.
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Chard posted:Do yourself a favor and STOP reading guides immediately. This is a game that rewards (read: slaughters without mercy) first-time players who don't know what they're doing, and knowing what to expect takes away a lot of the thrill. I know I'm not alone in wishing I could forget this game and play it over again. I really wish I played the game blind my first time through. I never went to the wrong area and I kind of breezed through it. Then I decided to play Demons Souls blind, but my Dark Souls experience is making it really easy so there's not a whole lot of challenge there, either 
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Chard posted:Do yourself a favor and STOP reading guides immediately. This is a game that rewards (read: slaughters without mercy) first-time players who don't know what they're doing, and knowing what to expect takes away a lot of the thrill. I know I'm not alone in wishing I could forget this game and play it over again. Seriously, the best part of this game is exploring the unknown and discovering things on your own. Skip the guide for the first playthrough.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 01:55 |
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Chard posted:Do yourself a favor and STOP reading guides immediately. This is a game that rewards (read: slaughters without mercy) first-time players who don't know what they're doing, and knowing what to expect takes away a lot of the thrill. I know I'm not alone in wishing I could forget this game and play it over again. I want to second this. The first time I played through the game I absolutely had no idea what I was doing. I was hollow the entire time, I solo'd every boss, and I beat the game with a ridiculous combination of gear and horribly allotted stats. And it owned.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 02:29 |
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Yeah, playing the game blind the first time through is definitely worth it. Also play as a hollow as often as possible. Then, the next time through, either use a guide or take the pendant at the start, book it straight to the 4 Kings as soon as you can after Anor Londo, never stopping to talk to Frampt. At least that way you'll get to play what is essentially the exact same game but with a completely different point of view on the events. It's pretty neat how many things you miss out on if you don't know where to go at certain points, and also how many things you miss out on if you're hollow the entire way through. It makes playing through a second time totally awesome, though. Just enough extra stuff to spruce up your playing.
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Chard posted:Do yourself a favor and STOP reading guides immediately. This is a game that rewards (read: slaughters without mercy) first-time players who don't know what they're doing, and knowing what to expect takes away a lot of the thrill. I know I'm not alone in wishing I could forget this game and play it over again. This this this. The only bit of advice I got from a friend of mine who had already beaten it on my first playthrough was the ultimate combat strategy (and he said it as a joke). I'll post it again for Waroduce's benefit 1. Get behind your enemy 2. Stab it in the butt I didn't come to this thread until I was just starting NG+ or finishing NG, I think. Figuring out everything for myself (or almost everything) makes the whole game far more rewarding. I did have to go through a few extra hoops in NG++ because I missed an item in NG, but that's just fine. e: Yep, just as I was finishing NG. Here's this as well, I haven't posted it in awhile. I THINK I can help anybody out between SL 1-180ish, I'm not 100% certain. There might be a few missing in the middle. I posted:Alright, I'm RembrandtQEinstein fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 03:20 |
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STARTING A LIST OF GAMERTAGS
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Chard posted:Do yourself a favor and STOP reading guides immediately. This is a game that rewards (read: slaughters without mercy) first-time players who don't know what they're doing, and knowing what to expect takes away a lot of the thrill. I know I'm not alone in wishing I could forget this game and play it over again. Beating a dead horse here, but this can't be stated enough. No game has ever made me feel dread like this and I'd kill to go in fresh again.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 03:30 |
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I have died 10 times to the tutorial boss. The people in IRC have informed me that I am terrible at this game
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| # ? May 15, 2012 03:36 |
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Waroduce posted:I have died 10 times to the tutorial boss. The people in IRC have informed me that I am terrible at this game You're in for the best video game experience of your life.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 03:37 |
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Disregard the advice about playing hollow only, you gotta put in at least some time in human form on your first run through. My Dark Souls experience would never have been as enjoyable as it was had "xXchronicfiend420Xx" not invaded and instakilled me (as a dragon too, I was like wtf?) in the Undead Parish.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 03:38 |
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Waroduce posted:I have died 10 times to the tutorial boss. The people in IRC have informed me that I am terrible at this game get a shield, block attacks, try to stand as far back from the reach of an enemies weapon as you can and counter attack after they attack. Never rush, try to fight one monster at a time. Try to get behind them by getting in close and circling around. Use a bow to shoot things from the farthest possible range. Lots of monsters wont even come after you if you are far enough away. Use poison arrows to do this and you can just shoot things 3 times and then wait for them to die.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 03:39 |
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mmmmm 11 times. Sometimes I sprint and sometimes I roll. I really wish they were different buttons.
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Ideally you would get to Firelink Shrine, reverse hollowing, kindle the fire, and then go run off to the Burg to get invaded by some BB-glitching tool that kills you in one shot through your stamina + health and then dances on your corpse. THEN you stay hollow through most of the game.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 03:40 |
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Get behind it and stab it in the rear end! Stop trying to kill the Asylum Demon with a broken sword, run away the first time.
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FishBulb posted:get a shield, block attacks, try to stand as far back from the reach of an enemies weapon as you can and counter attack after they attack. Never rush, try to fight one monster at a time. Try to get behind them by getting in close and circling around. I am the skeleton killing master at this point. I've killed the skeleton at the top of the stairs, the 2 warriors and archer group in front of the door and the skele knight in the side room 11 times so far. Its the boss thats giving me issues.
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Waroduce posted:I am the skeleton killing master at this point. I've killed the skeleton at the top of the stairs, the 2 warriors and archer group in front of the door and the skele knight in the side room 11 times so far. Its the boss thats giving me issues. You can climb up and drop attack him from the upper ridge. It does a lot of damage. After that do what I said before (except the bow stuff I guess)
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Yes, I am repeatedly climing the top the top, slaughtering all in my way and drop attacking him. Block doesn't do anything against his hammer though, so I don't know why your suggesting it. The last time through I tried staying real close and behind him, but the camera isn't happy about it and all I get to see is every pixel of his scaly skin blown up on my TV
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| # ? May 15, 2012 03:46 |
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How are you dying to the tutorial boss? I think you can literally plunge attack down after two-handing your weapon to take off around 1/2 his health, and then whiff your whole bar of stamina on him while eating hits and still outpace his damage with your damage. It's practically impossible to lose that fight. Of course if you were smart you would have firebombed him the first time around with those as your gift  e: There are going to be multiple fights kinda like this boss as the game goes on. Really large enemies, that is. Don't lock onto them, just keep them in focus and run around them. Also, after you do manage to kill it, walk all the way back to where your cell was in the beginning and be very attentive in that hallway for some nice foreshadowing surprise 
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Camera kind of sucks in the game, especially if you use lock on. Shield should block most of his attacks. I was actually just giving you general combat advice for the whole game originally though. Always circle around and stab in the back. Always stay close to bosses. Its pretty much the whole game.
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I loving DID IT WOOT.I beat him. Using the shield was the key. I didn't use it a few times because it seemed to me like I was getting whacked by his attacks through it,but the only one that went through was the overhand one which I learned to roll for. I also broke all the vases in that room because I thought it'd be like Legend of Zelda and I'd get some loot but I was wrong
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Waroduce posted:I loving DID IT I USED MY SHIELD I DID IT SUCK MY DICK IM A SHARK I'm lucky I got to quote this before you edited it. I'm pretty sure this is the only game out there that makes you feel this awesome for beating the tutorial.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 03:52 |
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God dammit From start releasing the new game so I can start fresh again
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Dr Snofeld posted:That guide is a bit outdated. Specifically, the guide talks up the Hollow Soldier Shield as an amazing piece of kit, but it now is pretty rubbish. Still a good guide in principle though. Wait, back up! What else is outdated about the guide? I realize the Fog ring is no longer a broken piece of poo poo, but what changed about the game's mechanics that make the Hollow Soldier Shield sucky?
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| # ? May 15, 2012 03:57 |
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Does it autosave when you use a bonfire? I don't want to lose my progress
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It saves whenever you see that flame in the top right of your screen.
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Waroduce posted:Does it autosave when you use a bonfire? I don't want to lose my progress It autosaves pretty much all the time. You should properly quit the game when you're done otherwise the game will get mad at you.
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qxan posted:Wait, back up! What else is outdated about the guide? I realize the Fog ring is no longer a broken piece of poo poo, but what changed about the game's mechanics that make the Hollow Soldier Shield sucky? The stability was pretty severely nerfed (it used to be almost 80 IIRC) and the fire damage reduction was lowered from 75% to 65%. It's still not a bad shield for blocking physical attacks by any means but since it has relatively low resistances now it's much more in line with the other medium shields and not really worth using to the end of the game anymore.
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| # ? May 15, 2012 04:11 |
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If I remember correctly, the Heater Shield from the male undead merchant and at least one of the shields Andre sells are much better. Roughly equivilant or better stats for even less weight. And if weight isn't a concern, you might as well just farm Baldur knights since their shield is pretty rad, too.
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FrancisYorkPatty posted:Also, after you do manage to kill it, walk all the way back to where your cell was in the beginning and be very attentive in that hallway for some nice foreshadowing surprise What happens here? ??? I can't remember anything.
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redreader posted:What happens here? ??? I can't remember anything. You can see the Stray Demon stomping around behind the bars to the side. He's there from the start, but most people don't notice him 
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Oh sweet Gwynevere's tits. The only thing funnier than watching the "incite naked fistfight, parry and riposte with something big and one-shotty" video? Doing it to people yourself.  I even managed to punish some folks who didn't fall for it. One guy, I parried his Manserpent GS barehanded, and then saw him immediately after white phantoming for me very next target. He was PISSED. Best day Darkwraithing ever.
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So I hate asking a stupid question like this, but the information online is pretty spotty and this thread is massive. Anyway, I'm finally trying to figure out which one handed sword I ultimately want to use as my primary. My build so far is something like 23 Vit, 38 End, and 23 Dex. My general strategy since Demon souls has always been to wall poo poo out with my shield and use mobility to get behind enemies for a few whacks with a sword and maybe a back-stab. Any suggestions? I did just get Qualaag's Fury Sword, but I'm rather disappointed that the damage it does is less than the old +4 Drake sword I've been using the rest of the game. I have Priscilla's Dagger too, would that be a good main weapon for me?
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