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Fun Times! posted:Unrelated, but I just saw a thread in GBS about explaining smilies and thought I'd ask here instead: What is the face in the Dark Souls smiley? It's the first knight you meet in the game, the one who's dying in his hole in the wall and gives you the flask. It's also the elite knight helmet, so it may not actually be a character.
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Fun Times! posted:What is the face in the Dark Souls smiley? Looks like the Elite Knight's helm with an orange glare on the visor. Could be Oscar of Astora? AKA the knight who dumped the body down into your cell in the intro, then gave you the Estus Flask later.
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| # ? May 20, 2012 18:48 |
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To my knowledge, the Elite Knight helmet is sort-of the "identifiable mascot" of the marketing for Dark Souls.
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| # ? May 20, 2012 19:14 |
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Nahxela posted:You guys should at least check out the Duke's Archive portion of this run. It is ridiculously awesome. The overall run is fun to watch, too, but Duke's Archive has something really, really amazing. So if you ride the elevator to the top level, you can go back down on it and skip the first Seath sequence? Do you have to quit the game like he did or was that a mishap? Also I love sniping out Ingward to skip that building. actionjackson fucked around with this message at May 20, 2012 around 21:33 |
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actionjackson posted:So if you ride the elevator to the top level, you can go back down on it and skip the first Seath sequence? Do you have to quit the game like he did or was that a mishap? I think he quit to save himself from falling to his death, since he didn't quite make it onto the rail and was kinda stuck in that corner.
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| # ? May 20, 2012 21:32 |
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Looks like he only did it as a mistake, since the second time he didn't do anything different but landed it properly.
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| # ? May 20, 2012 21:33 |
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So, are you actually expected to kill any of the monsters in Sen's Fortress? I have a Winged Spear +5 at this point and I'm probably taking around 5% health or so with each hit. Should I just start running past everything here, or should I actually try and kill stuff?
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| # ? May 20, 2012 21:57 |
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buzzsaw.gif posted:A word to those who advocate killing undead merchant...you do know that you can buy that uchigatana, right? There's no reason to kill that guy unless you just absolutely cannot wait the literally 10 minutes it takes to join forest hunters/ talk to Shiva/ go to blighttown backdoor/ talk to Shiva again. It costs 20,000 souls to join Forest Hunters, then you've got to go all the down to the bottom of Blight Town which takes a while coming from the Forest Hunter covenant. And if you're looking to make this your primary weapon, that's far out of your way without the sword you want to be using the most. The Lloyd's Talisman point is a better argument.
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GreatGreen posted:So, are you actually expected to kill any of the monsters in Sen's Fortress? I have a Winged Spear +5 at this point and I'm probably taking around 5% health or so with each hit. Should I just start running past everything here, or should I actually try and kill stuff? Parry them, they telegraph their attacks pretty hard. Just back off when they go for the bite. If you still have trouble, then you'll most likely need to get another weapon. You can farm the two at the front of the place until they drop their sword (I actually got lucky and the first one I killed dropped it).
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| # ? May 20, 2012 22:07 |
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GreatGreen posted:So, are you actually expected to kill any of the monsters in Sen's Fortress? I have a Winged Spear +5 at this point and I'm probably taking around 5% health or so with each hit. Should I just start running past everything here, or should I actually try and kill stuff? If you've rang both bells then, yeah, you're expected to be able to do Sen's. They've got better health and defense than most enemies you've fought to this point, but this is where the game really gets another difficulty upgrade. "The real Dark Souls begins here", so to speak. Really, you ought to have your weapons upgraded way beyond +5 at this point. You get access to +10 weapons in the Depths.
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Nickoten posted:It costs 20,000 souls to join Forest Hunters, then you've got to go all the down to the bottom of Blight Town which takes a while coming from the Forest Hunter covenant. And if you're looking to make this your primary weapon, that's far out of your way without the sword you want to be using the most. The Lloyd's Talisman point is a better argument. I usually save my Taurus and Gargoyle souls and take those down to Andrei to buy the seal -- if I'm a little short I kill the butterfly or just club stone statues a bit. That takes you straight to the three stooges for easy farming. Buying the katana is pretty easy, and you can't really upgrade the one you would get by killing the merchant until you get to a point where you can almost buy it anyway. I usually upgrade a reinforced club early instead and make it divine later for the catacombs.
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| # ? May 20, 2012 23:16 |
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You can join that covenant without shelling out the 20k, can't you? Via the ladder by the hydra. Easy bonfire access, on the other hand, does require the expenditure.
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| # ? May 20, 2012 23:39 |
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GreatGreen posted:So, are you actually expected to kill any of the monsters in Sen's Fortress? I have a Winged Spear +5 at this point and I'm probably taking around 5% health or so with each hit. Should I just start running past everything here, or should I actually try and kill stuff? What others said, plus at this stage in the game you have several ways to upgrade a +5 weapon further. Whatever weapon you choose, consider ascending it. I've never gone into Sen's with anything less than a +7 or a fire weapon.
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I'm pretty sure the snakepeople are very weak to bleed. If you don't have a bleed weapon there is a morning star beneath the elevator in Firelink.
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Goggle Fox posted:What others said, plus at this stage in the game you have several ways to upgrade a +5 weapon further. Whatever weapon you choose, consider ascending it. I've never gone into Sen's with anything less than a +7 or a fire weapon. I murdered the crap out of the snake dudes with a bandit knife +4 or +5. Two backstabs does them in, and they're really easy to dodge around.
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Chard posted:I'm pretty sure the snakepeople are very weak to bleed. If you don't have a bleed weapon there is a morning star beneath the elevator in Firelink. They're plenty vulnerable to both bleed and poison, yeah. There's also some areas where you'll want to bring poison arrows along for the sheer utility factor, since roughly three arrows is a kill if you wait long enough.
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| # ? May 20, 2012 23:59 |
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Bandit knife has the advantage of higher criticals, so if you're confident in backstabbing or especially parrying, that's a decent way to fight them. EDIT: quote:They're plenty vulnerable to both bleed and poison, yeah. There's also some areas where you'll want to bring poison arrows along for the sheer utility factor, since roughly three arrows is a kill if you wait long enough. I've actually ventured into the Demon Ruins today and I can confirm that 2-3 poison arrows is enough to bring the capra demons in there down to like 40hp left, so they stay good pretty much throughout the game.
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| # ? May 21, 2012 00:02 |
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You don't even have to fight most of the snake people in Sen's, most of them can be lured to stand in front of the arrow traps and then be caught in one place by them attacking your upheld shield. The two in the front, for instance, can be taken out by that trap, and that's actually supposed to be your introduction to using traps to your advantage. Most of the other snake-men can be kicked off ledges, or lured into different traps. I think there aren't any snake men you have to fight in a straight to-death situation, except maybe the last few before you get to the rooftops.
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| # ? May 21, 2012 00:46 |
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Can someone tell me how you slide down the ladders on the 360 version? I've tried everything I can think of, and have no clue... Rather embarrasing to say
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freeranger posted:Can someone tell me how you slide down the ladders on the 360 version? I've tried everything I can think of, and have no clue... Been awhile but I think it's the red button. You have to stop climbing up or down before it works, though. edit - I hope I never see your avatar at it's original resolution.
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Thanks, guess I never tried to stop moving.... oops. And yeah... I really need to change my avatar...Toxx ended well over a year ago....
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| # ? May 21, 2012 00:59 |
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I had some friends over and when people were leaving I said "hey let's play a drinking game. Worst video game player plays, and every time they die in dark souls you drink!" She got to the asylum demon twice, died twice (the first time you encounter it) then gave up.
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BlondRobin posted:Actually, that's "sorry." It means 'no excuse' in the sense of "what I did was inexcusable" but Japanese is really not meant to be taken that literally. There's a bunch of Japanese players since the servers aren't region locked, so don't be surprised if you get messages from them occasionally. Ah, thanks! Yeah, I've played with a few Japanese players before, but haven't ever actually received a message from one. I'm trying a build where I don't use any sorceries or pyromancies, and use bows instead. Now I know they're normally pretty weak, but I figure if I can eventually use the Dragonslayer Greatbow to invade as effectively as this guy it'll all be worth it.
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Back on for NG+ SL1. Is this where the real Dark Souls starts? I found some interesting ways to die in this and other character's playthrough. Accidentally backflipping at the starting of painted world, falling into a hole (interestingly enough, this is the only world I can think of where you return to the starting after a death, instead of a bonfire) Flipping past the first dragon in valley of the drakes, having it's tail catch me and move me backwards, thus letting him one-shot me Trying to jump on the moving anor londo stair case before it came to a complete stop Also, invading in Lost Izalith lava pit is funny, except I got no souls for killing someone. If anything gets dropped it's impossible to find of course.
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Any tips for getting Seathe's tail in NG+ with the black knight greataxe? I get stunlocked by the tail every time I go for it, and any tips would be appreciated.
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actionjackson posted:Accidentally backflipping at the starting of painted world, falling into a hole (interestingly enough, this is the only world I can think of where you return to the starting after a death, instead of a bonfire) If you die once you've left the painted world, you will respawn right outside the painting rather than in the painted world.
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I've been practicing my bow build, and it turns out that if you shoot the human part of Qualaag it's a hard interrupt of whatever she was doing. You can stunlock her with arrows this way using the first person camera. I was able to keep her locked for about a dozen arrows before she inched close enough to be a threat, and still had time to run away.
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Chard posted:I've been practicing my bow build, and it turns out that if you shoot the human part of Qualaag it's a hard interrupt of whatever she was doing. You can stunlock her with arrows this way using the first person camera. I was able to keep her locked for about a dozen arrows before she inched close enough to be a threat, and still had time to run away. Yeah, if you have the confidence in your bow skills, the safest way to do that fight is to just stare her in the face shooting point-blank large arrows. And if you're Sunbro-ing, those hard interrupts can save a host's rear end if they don't know the telegraphs for her attacks, plus continuous fire screws with her aggro AI. And if you do screw up, there's still time to roll out of the way unless she uses the explosion.
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Chard posted:I've been practicing my bow build, and it turns out that if you shoot the human part of Qualaag it's a hard interrupt of whatever she was doing. You can stunlock her with arrows this way using the first person camera. I was able to keep her locked for about a dozen arrows before she inched close enough to be a threat, and still had time to run away. Iron Golem has something similar.
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Man, I was thinking that its kinda ridiculous that Dark Souls allow high level players to invade very low level players, but I guess this isn't really true? Is this actually people the same level as me, but using the "bottomless box glitch"? I had no idea it existed until yesterday when I was watching a bit of a let's play on the game and it was mentioned. It would explain my frustration at how I never even had a remote chance to do anything at low levels in PvP because they would be ninja flipping everywhere with high level equipment. Can't they patch it out of the game?
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HappyHelmet posted:Man, I was thinking that its kinda ridiculous that Dark Souls allow high level players to invade very low level players, but I guess this isn't really true? Is this actually people the same level as me, but using the "bottomless box glitch"? Removing the glitch still won't stop that. It's totally possible to do a run of the whole game at SL1 if someone is good enough, and plenty of people have. Yeah, patching it out would probably reduce the frequency slightly, but decked-out low level invaders will always be a part of the game. Personally, I prefer they not patch it thanks to the high degree of risk that it adds to staying human.
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MoonwalkInvincible posted:Removing the glitch still won't stop that. It's totally possible to do a run of the whole game at SL1 if someone is good enough, and plenty of people have. Fair enough to your first point, and I agree to an extent on the second one. I guess what bothers me is that it feels like 90% of the players are using it. Even friendly summons I've done often are clearly using it. It takes some of the fun out of the game knowing that almost everyone is cheating.
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HappyHelmet posted:Fair enough to your first point, and I agree to an extent on the second one. Yeah, I hate the idea of duping things to a new character as well, at least if someone plans to play online with them. I like the end effect it has on the game a lot (to make invaders highly dangerous at early levels), but it's kinda lovely of people to use that method instead of doing a totally possible low-level run. This is one of the few games that is almost completely fair to the player and gives you absolute freedom to choose how to level your stats and equipment. I'd honestly be more okay with glitching if it were the only way to to get good stuff at an early SL, but if the game allows you to normally, it's not really in the spirit of  to take the easy way out.
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MoonwalkInvincible posted:Removing the glitch still won't stop that. It's totally possible to do a run of the whole game at SL1 if someone is good enough, and plenty of people have. It would do much more than you imply. Most people either don't care or aren't good enough to do a SL 1 playthrough of the game. Plus, the risk for being human is disproportionate and imbalanced in regards to these situations. It is a problem.
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I completed the whole game 3 times offline to get 1000/1000. Got the Souvenirs of Reprisal from the crows and Sun covenant medallions from who knows where, just had enough for the Great Lightning Spear
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Coming from the PvP side of Dark Souls, I'm extremely thankful the BB glitch exists. Thanks to it I can make a new SL 120 build to test out and be PvPing within 20 minutes of chargen with all the gear I'll ever need. It really introduced a lot of longevity into the game for me since it's like a dedicated PvP character creator, whereas before I was spending hours doing two full playthroughs to get all the gear and souls I needed.
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Manatee Cannon posted:It would do much more than you imply. Most people either don't care or aren't good enough to do a SL 1 playthrough of the game. Plus, the risk for being human is disproportionate and imbalanced in regards to these situations. It is a problem. I think the big problem is that even if they patch this out people who want to do that glitch will just unpatch the game, do it in offline mode, then patch the game again like people sometimes do with the Dragon Head glitch.
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Read posted:Coming from the PvP side of Dark Souls, I'm extremely thankful the BB glitch exists. Thanks to it I can make a new SL 120 build to test out and be PvPing within 20 minutes of chargen with all the gear I'll ever need. It really introduced a lot of longevity into the game for me since it's like a dedicated PvP character creator, whereas before I was spending hours doing two full playthroughs to get all the gear and souls I needed. This this this! I took the time to get almost every weapon and piece of armor in the game, over about 3-4 playthroughs, and it's nice being able to dump that stuff to a new guy, chew some souls, and start messing around with all of it. I can see how new players, especially at low levels, would be frustrated at Havel-flipping lightning katana wielding freaks popping up in the burg, but it makes for better high level PVP I think.
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Shima Honnou posted:lots of words Hey, I know you guys are just trying to be helpful and I don't want to be That Guy, but can you maybe not tell him literally everything that will happen to him? Part of the experience is experiencing these things for the first time by yourself.
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Holy crap four kings is a load of poo poo. How are people able to do this at SL1? I can never dodge any of the magic stuff they throw out, especially the AOE. I'm wearing a full silver knights armour at +5 and it still almost 1 hits me. Is this boss even possible without green blossom/grass crest shield combined?
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