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Filthy Monkey posted:New pyromancy? What is this new pyromancy? It's supposed to create stronger, black phantom versions of enemies (like you would get at world tendency black in Demon's Souls), but I think hardly anyone bothers with it, if it even works.
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keyframe posted:If you are having trouble with that you do not want to be there. Go do some other levels and level up. In fact leave the tomb till the very end of the game cause gently caress tomb of giants. You're 100$ right. gently caress that place.
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| # ? Oct 14, 2011 21:57 |
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Alright, I'm hoping someone can help me out here. I've been trying to play any kind of multiplayer in this game since I bought it on release day. I'm on the 360. I've never been invaded or have been able to invade (except for once being invaded by an NPC.) I've on rare occasion seen white signs and tried to summon but I always get an error message. Basically, I've leveled two character to about soul level 60 and progressed through most of the game whilst trying to have some sort of multiplayer interaction, and the only thing I can seem to do online is see orange signs, and random ghosts fighting poo poo. My friend and I made new characters, got to soul level 12, joined the white covenant, and tried various tricks to summon each other. We followed all the guidelines posted by From Software that's been posted in this thread and other places. We tried spamming signs, leaving them for 15-30 minutes, both tried being the host or client, ect. Nothing seems to work. He at least, is able to be summoned or summon other players.(rarely) We've never been able to see each other's signs. I've very rarely seen peoples' signs but have been unable to join as I said. On one of my higher level characters I joined the covenant with the blue eye and ring and haven't had any success connecting to anyone with those methods, either. Oh, and we also have both tried connecting our X-Boxes straight to our cable modems just to rule that out (getting desperate!) Nothing has worked. Any advice anyone?
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| # ? Oct 14, 2011 21:57 |
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You cannot control what P2P lobby you get put in so consistently summoning your friends is impossible. Part of your problem is that the player population on the 360 sucks. I have never been invaded either and I've been human for 100% of my 2nd character's playthrough so far aside from the tutorial. White sign summoning works maybe 10-20% of the time both ways (summoning and getting summoned). If you can see other player's blue ghosts and signs then your connection and ports are fine, the problem is that the multiplayer system in this game is utter poo poo.
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| # ? Oct 14, 2011 22:00 |
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Havel... you loving shitlord He's been pushing my face in all game (I'm playing a tanky guy and can't circle strafe for poo poo) and I FINALLY figured out a way to kill him easily: lure him to the top of the tower and step outside to the staircase. He will retreat, and if you step inside the tower he will come at you and take ONE swing before retreating again. I was hitting him with fireballs from my +8 pyro hand, hitting him for about 240 points of damage per hit. I got him down to about 3% of his health, and the jackass launches himself into the abyss off the notch in the stairwell outside, taking his loving ring with him God I hate that rear end in a top hat so much 
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So I've been kind of stumbling around trying to find Havel the Knight and it turns out, you need a key top open the entrance from the Darkwood Basin (I didn't pick the Master Key as a starting item, I picked the Twin Humanities which I promptly ate  ). Where might I find this key?
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Vatek posted:the problem is that the multiplayer system in this game is utter poo poo. You could say that. You could also say that the game wasn't designed with a "meet up with your friends" multiplayer experience in mind, and going into it thinking you'd be able to do so was a mistake. Tamagod Sushi posted:Where might I find this key? Defeat the Butterfly boss.
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| # ? Oct 14, 2011 22:05 |
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It's just that invading in the early game is difficult, whether it be 360 or PS3. Without direct access to the invasion orbs until well into the game, the wonkiness of the Eyes of Death, and the reliance of getting into the Book of The Guilty, invasions are impractical for most of the game unless you join the forest hunters. white signs not working often is probably some sort of connection issue similar to the Eyes of Death. Hopefully From will sort this all out.
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| # ? Oct 14, 2011 22:05 |
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SixtySix posted:Havel... you loving shitlord I hate to tell you this, but you can go skins and just circle strafe him to death at point blank range with a reasonably quick weapon and he will never hit you. Merauder posted:You could say that. You could also say that the game wasn't designed with a "meet up with your friends" multiplayer experience in mind, and going into it thinking you'd be able to do so was a mistake. That's not what I'm saying at all. The P2P poo poo barely works, 80% of my white signs give "summoning failed" or "failed to connect to session" and what few cracked eye red orbs I've obtained frequently fail to connect to anyone's game, which USES UP THE ORB. Vatek fucked around with this message at Oct 14, 2011 around 22:07 |
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Merauder posted:You could say that. You could also say that the game wasn't designed with a "meet up with your friends" multiplayer experience in mind, and going into it thinking you'd be able to do so was a mistake. Playing with strangers rarely works either tbh, the multiplayer is very badly implemented
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Just to clarify - the translucent enemies behind the Crest of Artosias door don't respawn, right? Just the other guys littered about? Also I think I accidentally killed or drove away a thing I could have made a covenant with. In the same area, I saw something moving inside the window of a tower, so naturally I shot an arrow at it. Then it called me a fool and disappeared. This same thing happened to me with the Sun Knight. God damnit, this game makes me think everything is an enemy! My natural instinct is to kill!
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| # ? Oct 14, 2011 22:07 |
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Bland posted:Playing with strangers never works either tbh, the multiplayer is very badly implemented I guess I've just gotten lucky, of the half dozen times I've attempted to summon in other players, it has only failed once. And the one time I put down my own summon sign, I got picked up in ~10 min. Small sample of attempts, sure, but so far I haven't had a problem (PS3 user).
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Graviija posted:Just to clarify - the translucent enemies behind the Crest of Artosias door don't respawn, right? Just the other guys littered about? They do spawn. Just hit the mage guy with an arrow to make him run at you so you only deal with him instead of the translucent ones.
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| # ? Oct 14, 2011 22:09 |
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Graviija posted:Just to clarify - the translucent enemies behind the Crest of Artosias door don't respawn, right? Just the other guys littered about? Nah they respawn. Also I think you may have driven away the covenant leader for Forest Hunters. Basically all the dudes littered around the area you were just talking about. I play this game with my shield up, and I approach everything with my shield up. With max stability I assume that I can tank the first blow of almost any non-boss attack then retreat to replan. This is how I also figure out who are NPCs and who aren't.
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| # ? Oct 14, 2011 22:09 |
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A few questions: 1) For the O&S fight, what's the best level to get picked up as a phantom? I'm currently SL40, but with enough souls to gain 3-4 levels, and I wanna know the sweet spot (plus get some more strength for better shields). 2) There's a bunch of unusable levels scattered around Anor Londo. Do they ever become usable? 3) Why does Smough have a pair of bollocks on his neck? Seriously, wtf!?  4) Someone mentioned earlier that uprating a message gives a humanity point to whoever wrote it. Is the reverse true? Because I really hope I screwed the gently caress who wrote a "Watch out for Left" next to a door where the ambush was on the right  Also, fun fact: downrating a message ADDS to the rating. Explains why those "Need head" messages actually have a rating.
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| # ? Oct 14, 2011 22:10 |
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Vatek posted:I hate to tell you this, but you can go skins and just circle strafe him to death at point blank range with a reasonably quick weapon and he will never hit you. Let me clarify: I am clumsy as a person, not as a character. I literally suck at manipulating controllers
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Jadz posted:drat. Phantom Solaire bit it, and I only got the Gaping Dragon down to half health before getting myself stuck in a corner and pummelled. Got an axe from his tail, though! Where should I drop my sigil by Queelag (Blighttown boss)? I don't want to fight her just yet, so I don't want to blunder into her.
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Merauder posted:You could say that. You could also say that the game wasn't designed with a "meet up with your friends" multiplayer experience in mind, and going into it thinking you'd be able to do so was a mistake. Gonna jump on this dog pile, you're missing the point on purpose. I don't give a poo poo if I can't play this with my friends but I would like the multiplayer mechanics they bothered to put in to work every once in a while, ie I click on a white sign to summon a dude and it actually works or I drop a red eye thing and actually end up in somebody's game so I can take a shot at them.
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| # ? Oct 14, 2011 22:13 |
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To be clear I've tried to connect with anyone, not just my friend. Throughout playing two characters to 65 on the xbox 360 I've never been able to connect to anyone, ever. That's why I figured there might be an obvious problem I missed. I do feel like PS3 players are having more success. Ah well. It's still a good game and I enjoy it single player none-the-less.
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Graviija posted:Just to clarify - the translucent enemies behind the Crest of Artosias door don't respawn, right? Just the other guys littered about? There are 6 guys altogether, 3 visible and 3 stealthed. The 3 stealth guys are a thief, a knight with a 2-hander and an archer. Only the thief and the 3 visible guys respawn. As for the cat, head to the sin guy in the bell tower and pay to absolve your sin, then she'll return. Unless you killed him too, in which case 
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Elysiume posted:What are with the mushroom people in Darkroot? The little ones are adorable, the big ones are slow but will punch you so hard you loving die.
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Just to confirm, if you gently caress up the first dialogue option with the cat in the forest you can hit him, gather 60k souls, absolve your sins, and it will reset, allowing you to join the covenant.
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Rambo Giraffe posted:To be clear I've tried to connect with anyone, not just my friend. Throughout playing two characters to 65 on the xbox 360 I've never been able to connect to anyone, ever. That's why I figured there might be an obvious problem I missed.
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| # ? Oct 14, 2011 22:15 |
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I'm on 360 and I've had more luck than that, but not a lot. I think I've been summoned maybe four times, tried to summon guys myself upwards of 20 and had only one actually show up. None of my pvp items have ever worked. I've gotten invaded by three (actual player) red phantoms total. I am human all the time, kinda lame.
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Merauder posted:I guess I've just gotten lucky, of the half dozen times I've attempted to summon in other players, it has only failed once. And the one time I put down my own summon sign, I got picked up in ~10 min. Small sample of attempts, sure, but so far I haven't had a problem (PS3 user). We're talking about the Xbox360 version here, so kindly shut your mouth about things you know nothing about. Last time I checked the Xbox360 had like 2k people in the Book of the Guilty. The PS3 version has like 30k. You need critical mass to make the multiplayer system work and the 360 doesn't have it. Not to mention the failed summons, the failed invasions, the failed Gravelording, the fact that people in the Book of the Guilty can farm their pursuers because they all pop up in the same spot and the guilty get a warning (when the guide SPECIFICALLY says that they don't), etc. etc. Edit: I see that From Software was trying to make a system that didn't require a centralized server and that's commendable. But the system they have isn't working very well at all.
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Rambo Giraffe posted:I do feel like PS3 players are having more success. Ah well. It's still a good game and I enjoy it single player none-the-less. Not just with multiplayer! There's been a lot of complaining about the framerate in Blighttown in this thread but if it is there at all on the PS3 I haven't noticed and I've been through there several times. Failing 90% of your summon attempts for no discernable reason hits PS3 players too though
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andrew smash posted:Gonna jump on this dog pile, you're missing the point on purpose. I don't give a poo poo if I can't play this with my friends but I would like the multiplayer mechanics they bothered to put in to work every once in a while, ie I click on a white sign to summon a dude and it actually works or I drop a red eye thing and actually end up in somebody's game so I can take a shot at them. Same. I'd be happy with semi-consistent multiplayer with anyone, let alone my mates (not that they play this game anyway, but there you go).
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andrew smash posted:I'm on 360 and I've had more luck than that, but not a lot. I think I've been summoned maybe four times, tried to summon guys myself upwards of 20 and had only one actually show up. None of my pvp items have ever worked. I've gotten invaded by three (actual player) red phantoms total. I am human all the time, kinda lame. Speaking of being summoned, I've been summoned to fight Quelaag. I've never fought her before. Tips?
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UberJew posted:Not just with multiplayer! There's been a lot of complaining about the framerate in Blighttown in this thread but if it is there at all on the PS3 I haven't noticed and I've been through there several times. It seems like it's just effecting certain models or something. A lot of reviewers playing the PS3 version complained about the terrible framerate in certain areas and a couple people in the thread have said the same, but then some people say they aren't having any issues at all.
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Most of the problem with multiplayer could be fixed with a dedicated server instead of this P2P garbage. I really, really hope that server support is included in the patch and they put one up.Elysiume posted:Speaking of being summoned, I've been summoned to fight Quelaag. I've never fought her before. Tips? Yeah stick to her front and just to the side, you'll be out of the hit range of her fire whip thing and normal lava blasts. Run away as soon as she pauses her attack pattern, that means she's either going to to a leg stomp or her AOE fireball (not lava) which is unblockable and will gently caress you up. andrew smash fucked around with this message at Oct 14, 2011 around 22:20 |
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gently caress, I really love Anor Londo. It's so atmospheric, and the enemies are such a hard shift from a lot of the other stuff I've fought so far. And I got Havel's armour. Currently rocking his gloves, gold-threaded hood and robe, and black iron boots. I look like something from a black metal album cover. 
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Elysiume posted:You can summon him again! I was getting summoned quite a bit today just dropping my sign by the bonfire (at level 41 even). *edit* And for that boss just stand back and spam lightning spear when you get summoned :P Seriously though just stay out of the fire she lays on the ground, watch out for the explosions she shoots out her rear end, and don't get hit with her fire whip thing in the front. (Probably not the best advice but I did spend 90% of my time over several summons against her at range so...) oneliquidninja fucked around with this message at Oct 14, 2011 around 22:21 |
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andrew smash posted:Most of the problem with multiplayer could be fixed with a dedicated server instead of this P2P garbage. I really, really hope that server support is included in the patch and they put one up. I wouldn't hold your breath
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Elysiume posted:Summoning has a horrifying low success rate, and getting summoned is so unreliable. Get in her face and beat on her. If the spider opens it's mouth, get to the side. If it rears back, RUN! Also, equip your best anti-fire gear.
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I get summoned every time I put down my white phantom sign unless I'm doing it at some weird time of day when nobody is around. Basically if you can see a load of orange messages around a boss door, put down your summon sign cause it means people are online.
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Bland posted:I wouldn't hold your breath I know 
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I have had great luck with white summons as well as invading/getting invading while playing on 360 for what that's worth.
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MadJackMcJack posted:There are 6 guys altogether, 3 visible and 3 stealthed. The 3 stealth guys are a thief, a knight with a 2-hander and an archer. Only the thief and the 3 visible guys respawn. So if the price goes up after every infraction...absolving my sins is going to take a shitload of money. Fuuuck. Well, thanks for the info all the same.
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Phoix posted:It seems like it's just effecting certain models or something. A lot of reviewers playing the PS3 version complained about the terrible framerate in certain areas and a couple people in the thread have said the same, but then some people say they aren't having any issues at all. I think it has to do with applying blur to models with hair/fur/whatever. You can see a serious framerate drop if you get near to the giant crow in Firelink and rotate your camera so it's right in front of it (thus triggering the depth of field blur on it). The same thing happens when those black cats in Darkroot do their fast rolling attack, which has motion blur. Graviija posted:poo poo, is that what absolving sins does? Sets NPCs back to neutral with you? I never really thought about it; I just noticed the price (which was 64k souls the first time) and went on my way. It's not based on how many sins you've committed, it's purely your soul level (2000 souls times your level). So you have to save up souls and stop levelling up if you want to pay it off. The Cheshire Cat fucked around with this message at Oct 14, 2011 around 22:23 |
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There are a lot of problems with this game. I think that game reviewers kind of fell over themselves in order to show that they were "with it" and into Dark Souls without really addressing some of the problems: A terrible input glitch that affects me fairly regularly where my guy doesn't attack for a few seconds. I know that this is fairly common. A game as hard as Dark Souls should NOT have an input glitch in it. Horrible framerate problems in certain areas (different depending on the console). Geometry glitches that can kill your character. Busted multiplayer on an entire console. Very very mean-spirited metagame decisions (say no to the cat once? You're out of the Covenant...FOREVER. Accidentally smack an NPC? Hope you like grinding souls for literally hours, or know of a very specific farming technique). Really terrible PvP mechanics in general. I like Dark Souls but it reminds me a lot of Everquest: the kernel of a great idea is there, but they have tacked on a bunch of half-baked pointlessly mean poo poo on top of it in the name of "challenge". And it's no 89 on Metacritic, I'll tell you that much.
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