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Filthy Monkey posted:By pure damage numbers, the scaling weapons never really catch up. In practice, there are reports of single damage-type weapons improving in NG+ due to needing to go through multiple defenses though. It's statistically the best, but yes, hollow soldier shield +15 is the second and for it's weight and parry abilities is drat great.
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GreenAcidRage posted:It's statistically the best, but yes, hollow soldier shield +15 is the second and for it's weight and parry abilities is !@#$%^&* great. Problem is how useless parry is online if there is even a little bit of lag. I only really had a good time parrying in one co op match when it was just at undead burg and I had already beat the bell gargoyle. I dropped my sign just outside the first bonfire in undead burg. I then helped him to get the one part where there's 4 undead hollow soldiers, I then proceeded to parry every single one of them in a row.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 07:47 |
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Hexempaler posted:
Can we just put this and the Jolly Coop pic in the OP? Also do we have Bronion fan art? Revitalized fucked around with this message at Oct 21, 2011 around 07:51 |
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Revitalized posted:Can we just put this and the Jolly Coop pic in the OP?
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Revitalized posted:Can we just put this and the Jolly Coop pic in the OP? Seconded, this needs to be seen by any real Dark Souls fan.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 07:52 |
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How do I get someone to join my game? Do I just use the white soapstone and hope someone joins? I'm bad at bosses and probably built my guy wrong and I'm stuck on Quelaag.
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Schroeder91 posted:How do I get someone to join my game? Do I just use the white soapstone and hope someone joins? I'm bad at bosses and probably built my guy wrong and I'm stuck on Quelaag. You use the white stone if you want to BE summoned. You use white signs you find on the ground to summon people to you.
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Agent Kool-Aid posted:You use the white stone if you want to BE summoned. You use white signs you find on the ground to summon people to you. Oooohh, gotcha. Well, while I was waiting for someone to join, Mildred whoever spawned so I killed them, hopefully this will be enough for me to get Quelaag. If Mildred or I die, will they still be there for the next attempt? Schroeder91 fucked around with this message at Oct 21, 2011 around 08:11 |
| # ? Oct 21, 2011 08:07 |
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Yep, she's there for good.
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Schroeder91 posted:Oooohh, gotcha. Well, while I was waiting for someone to join, Mildred whoever spawned so I killed them, hopefully this will be enough for me to get Quelaag. If Mildred or I die, will they still be there for the next attempt? Yeah NPCs will be there for you forever if you met their requirements. Thank god they do, I would never beat NG+ and beyond The Four Kings without Beatrice  edit: You know, it feels like the developers were aware of most of the bullshit segments and implemented something to apologize for them. Solaire is there to help you on O+S. Ceaseless Discharge will jump to his death. There's the shortcut to Lost Izalith that goes past the lava and dragon asses. Beatrice is there to help out with the Four Kings. Heavy neutrino fucked around with this message at Oct 21, 2011 around 08:15 |
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At the risk of sounding like the biggest dork ever...Why does the gold hemmed hood look all sweet and hang over armor in this pre-release trailer when it just sort of clips into it in the actual game? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNpLhv21BS0&NR=1 E: Oh wait I think that is the thief's armor with it. Thought it was the knight. drat I wish the black leather was better cause it looks badass. NESguerilla fucked around with this message at Oct 21, 2011 around 08:18 |
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gently caress, the Seath fight is such a clusterfuck. The camera got pinned against a wall and he used his spikes attack and I had to watch my Stamina and then Health drain away and I couldn't do a drat thing about it. Then after I died he cursed me.  Guess I'll go hit up New Londo while I have the chance.
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Heavy neutrino posted:Yeah NPCs will be there for you forever if you met their requirements. Thank god they do, I would never beat NG+ and beyond The Four Kings without Beatrice This is true for just about every section except Tomb of the Giants, not much really here that can help you except having your body smashed into a paste, thrown off a cliff, or stabbed by skeletons enough until you get through.
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Dawnfire posted:This is true for just about every section except Tomb of the Giants, not much really here that can help you except having your body smashed into a paste, thrown off a cliff, or stabbed by skeletons enough until you get through. Tomb of Giants isn't bad if you're smart and worked on your pyromancy. Great Fireballs will one shot the annoying rear end bone apes.
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Who Dat posted:Anyone doing a SL1 run that is close to or at O&S? I did it, it was a total pain in the rear end. I used the full Antiquated Set to boost damage, Dark Moon Seance Ring for an extra spell slot, Ring of Favor and Protection, and nothing but fireballs/greater fireballs. I believe my pyromancy was +14 at the time, just under the Queelana version. I didn't use Solaire because I found it was way easier to keep them together behind a pillar then separate with an NPC and suddenly getting blind sided by one off camera. If you run out of fireballs when Smough goes solo then you have basically lost, you won't have the stability or HP to take a lighting butt slam in your attempts to hit and run. If I were to change anything it would be that I would have gone in with a even more upgraded pyromancy hand because the biggest issue is doing enough damage before you run out of magic. But a work around could be farming up a Fire/Lighting Axe before you head in there.
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Revitalized posted:Can we just put this and the Jolly Coop pic in the OP? Man, I wish we could. Oh wait. I put some art in the OP. Jolly Co-operation gets in twice, because why not.
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Schroeder91 posted:Oooohh, gotcha. Well, while I was waiting for someone to join, Mildred whoever spawned so I killed them, hopefully this will be enough for me to get Quelaag. If Mildred or I die, will they still be there for the next attempt? I found that with Mildred at the Quelaag fight that after dieing her sign wouldn't show up. When that happened I just quit to the menu and reloaded and it was there again.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 08:34 |
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It didn't appear for me either so I went in anyways and then promptly died. I went to the main menu and it's still not there.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 08:38 |
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Penny_Dreadful posted:If you run out of fireballs when Smough goes solo then you have basically lost, you won't have the stability or HP to take a lighting butt slam in your attempts to hit and run. Smough's rear end slam is dodgeable, he moves heels in - that's your queue to rollback then turn around and run. it has a larger animation than it actually hits, and I found it possible to dodge it over the 50% burden limit. Ornstein's slam on the other hand is undodgeable so for god's sake don't goddamn kill smough first any of you ever and dont summon me to do so AUAAAHGHGHNGHGHNNHNN
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 08:41 |
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So I thought I would be clever and get the Paladin armor set early in the game by joining the covenant that would let me warp to where it drops, taking out the black phantom who makes it spawn, grabbing it and getting out. Turns out this particular black phantom won't invade you if the golden gate is still up. Now I feel like an idiot because I have to climb out of the Tomb of Giants.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 08:43 |
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 08:46 |
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GreenAcidRage posted:Smough's rear end slam is dodgeable, he moves heels in - that's your queue to rollback then turn around and run. it has a larger animation than it actually hits, and I found it possible to dodge it over the 50% burden limit. Ornstein's slam on the other hand is undodgeable so for god's sake don't goddamn kill smough first any of you ever and dont summon me to do so AUAAAHGHGHNGHGHNNHNN Ornstein's slam is very dodgeable, he signals it by flexing his knees.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 08:46 |
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Yeah I don't get why people have so much trouble with Mega Ornstein. His one hit kill ability (and I think most of his melee attacks) won't hit you if you're right on top of him. His big AOE can be avoided by just sprinting away. Charge at him with a shield up, get right up under his legs and wail on him. When he gets ready to leap into the air sprint away and repeat. Know how loving annoying it is when some like tiny rear end dog is right on top of you and you're trying to hit it with a 15 foot polearm and your weapon is too long and you can't land any hits? Be that stupid loving dog.
Fellatio del Toro fucked around with this message at Oct 21, 2011 around 08:55 |
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Heavy neutrino posted:Tomb of Giants isn't bad if you're smart and worked on your pyromancy. Great Fireballs will one shot the annoying rear end bone apes. The problem with the Tomb is getting to the first bonfire and Patches at all. I'd have less of a problem with the pitch black aspect of the area if it wasn't also riddled with lethal falls and ledges. Forcing us to use the Skull Lantern was an interesting design choice, though. At that point, most everyone relies on their shield for the basic enemies(or, at any rate, I did). Removing it made me feel pretty damned unsafe. That area with the gigantic trees, near the end of the Tomb has to be one of the most beautiful things I've seen in this game. It's not incredibly impressive on it's own, but when juxtaposed with the dark, morbid Tomb, it's absolutely stunning. Penny_Dreadful posted:If I were to change anything it would be that I would have gone in with a even more upgraded pyromancy hand because the biggest issue is doing enough damage before you run out of magic. But a work around could be farming up a Fire/Lighting Axe before you head in there. If you're going to take the elemental weapon route for Ornstein and Smough, DON'T use lightning. Ornstein, at least, is very resistant to it.
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Tiggy Sawdust posted:Is there any way to kill the caster in the gaping dragon room without a bow? I keep regretting forgetting to pick one up. Hey do you play on the Xbox by any chance? Yesterday I summoned (or was summoned, can't recall) for the Capra Demon by someone with a very similar XBL name. Also you can get to the caster by setting out from he bonfire as if heading to the boss but instead of sliding down that small ladder, head forward at that point and follow that path straight to him.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 09:24 |
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Elysiume posted:I am confounded as to how anyone kills the dragon from the tower. If the dragon is there and I run up the tower, he just vanishes. Go back to Firelink and rest at the bonfire, then return. There's a good chance he'll reappear. Worked for me when I first did it.
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Ovaltine Jenkins posted:Yeah I don't get why people have so much trouble with Mega Ornstein. His one hit kill ability (and I think most of his melee attacks) won't hit you if you're right on top of him. His big AOE can be avoided by just sprinting away. Charge at him with a shield up, get right up under his legs and wail on him. When he gets ready to leap into the air sprint away and repeat. Know how loving annoying it is when some like tiny rear end dog is right on top of you and you're trying to hit it with a 15 foot polearm and your weapon is too long and you can't land any hits? Be that stupid loving dog. This works for pretty much all the large bosses in the game. By and large their close-range attacks are extremely easy to avoid, and their normal attacks will almost always miss when you're that close. It was really easy to beat big Ornstein and pretty much every other large boss by hugging the poo poo out of them.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 09:30 |
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God drat S+O are tough as poo poo at SL20. Wasted like 6 humanity trying to summon Solaire. Half the time he would aggro the giants leading to the doors and lose a huge chunk of hp. We got O down pretty easy (I got like 3 Leo Rings) but I kept dying on S. Didn't help a bunch of Darkmoons would invade as soon as I entered human form. I eventually calmed down, disconnected from the network and we killed them fools. Feels pretty awesome to warp back to Firelink so easily and at this level I can help newbies do gaping/capra/gargoyles/queel. So I buy Smough's armor from the guy in the aquaduct right?
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 09:32 |
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Okay seriously someone tell me how the four kings on NG++ is meant to be even close to winnable. I must have tried over a dozen times and I never get close to the DPS it would take to kill them off before the next one appears. They have too much life and defense, they hit for retard amounts of damage, and don't even get me started on the magic explosion attack.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 09:35 |
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darkhand posted:So I buy Smough's armor from the guy in the aquaduct right? Under the aquaduct yes.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 09:35 |
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Is there a shortcut from The Depths to Firelink that's quicker than the one where you have to run all the way back up out of the Depths where you first came in? I saw mention on GameFaqs that there was a shortcut to Firelinknext to the merchant in the Depths, who's sitting next to the entrance to Blight Town. But I haven't confirmed it anywhere else.
-Blackadder- fucked around with this message at Oct 21, 2011 around 09:39 |
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Heavy neutrino posted:It seems more like the spears cause a small AoE explosion like most fireball type spells do. They definitely railgun, I tested it out on the octo-snakes in dukes archives when they're packed into that one little room. If you get the angle right then it'll pass through five of them all the way to the back wall, it's just normally when you're fighting something the angle the spell hits the enemy at is so high that the spear just immediately ploughs into the ground behind them.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 09:37 |
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I accidently put on Ring of Favor and Protection  It's spoiling me
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 09:38 |
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-Blackadder- posted:Is there a shortcut from The Depths to Firelink that's quicker than the one where you have to run all the way back up out of the Depths where you first came in? I saw mention on GameFaqs that there was a shortcut to Firelink[spoiler]next to [spoiler]the merchant in the Depths, who's sitting next to the entrance to Blight Town. But I haven't confirmed it anywhere else. I guess that's quicker in a way vOv darkhand fucked around with this message at Oct 21, 2011 around 09:42 |
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I've been standing here for like 20 minutes waiting to get summoned for S&O and nothing 
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 09:43 |
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Stray Demon seems really inconsistent. Sometimes I'm right on his rear end when he does his sword-plunge AoE and it doesn't hurt me. And sometimes I'm really far away but still directly behind him, and I lose 2/3 of my health and get knocked down. No idea what the deal is.
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Flagg34 posted:Forcing us to use the Skull Lantern was an interesting design choice, though. If you've killed the Hydra in Darkroot basin, go kill the golem in the cave behind it and the npc you meet there will sell a light spell to you (14 int).
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 09:55 |
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EvilCornbread posted:Stray Demon seems really inconsistent. Sometimes I'm right on his rear end when he does his sword-plunge AoE and it doesn't hurt me. And sometimes I'm really far away but still directly behind him, and I lose 2/3 of my health and get knocked down.
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| # ? Oct 21, 2011 09:58 |
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Hexempaler posted:If I recall correctly that attack isn't really an AoE. It has a huge spread in front of him but if you're behind him the range is tiny. He has two different fire aoe attacks. The normal slash one has an explosion centered in front of him, the one where he slams the hammer straight down is centered on him.
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So what do occult weapons do, anyway? Are they just stronger Divine weapons, or what?
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