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Artorias ain't got poo poo on Manus
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Aug 6, 2016 15:38
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Manus is easier than Artorias, he just has a couple nasty tricks he'll bust out right before you kill him.
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Aug 6, 2016 15:41
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Getting Artorias is always a thing. Don't matter how many times you've done it...if you're doing it again better hope you already got gud
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Aug 6, 2016 17:09
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And maintain said gud-ness for what always seems like forever but is actualy what 3 to 5 mins?
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Aug 6, 2016 17:13
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FactsAreUseless posted:Manus is easier than Artorias, he just has a couple nasty tricks he'll bust out right before you kill him. i think the big thing is the fights require (at least for me) a completely different mindset almost. artorias is fast, always in your face and requires constant movement while manus is a slower more deliberate fight. the best way i found to do it is to hang back and bait/punish attacks so you are never really in range for his rage combo to catch you. when i tried to fight manus like artorias i would do fine for awhile and then inevitably he would catch me with that combo, every time.
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Aug 6, 2016 19:42
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Artorias is much easier imo because it's pretty easy to bait out his easy-to-dodge moves (all his gap closers). Manus will do whatever the gently caress he wants, whenever the gently caress he wants and you just gotta deal with it.
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Aug 6, 2016 22:26
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Jesus christ gently caress manus. No one throwing down summon signs there either. If I get the timing right on his melee attacks he throws off that tantrum with no warning. If I try to bait melee attacks and rush in he starts throwing magic.
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Aug 12, 2016 23:26
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Jesus christ gently caress manus. No one throwing down summon signs there either. If I get the timing right on his melee attacks he throws off that tantrum with no warning. If I try to bait melee attacks and rush in he starts throwing magic. The tantrum actually has a big warning, it's his most obvious attack by far
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Aug 12, 2016 23:36
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theres an item in the dlc area you can use to block his magic (i thought it made the fight easier) but you can also just roll through it all which other people suggest. i found that i never really wanted to be in melee range because he will snap into that combo really fast and i sucked at getting out. i tried to stay at about mid range to bait out his overhead slam attack which is really easy to dodge once you get the delay (for me it was see his arm raise, count to 2, dodge to the side) and he leaves it there for a second so you can get a couple pokes in if you are quick. that was basically the whole fight. dodge all his garbage, punish that attack and maybe his jump and dont get greedy. stay calm and patient.
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Aug 12, 2016 23:36
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Awesome! posted:theres an item in the dlc area you can use to block his magic (i thought it made the fight easier) but you can also just roll through it all which other people suggest. I already have the silver pendant, but I'll try baiting his leap attack. I read it's also good to wait until he's at half health to summon Sif so that Sif can tank his magic instead of dying before you get to that point.
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Aug 12, 2016 23:44
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Awesome! posted:theres an item in the dlc area you can use to block his magic (i thought it made the fight easier) but you can also just roll through it all which other people suggest. Also, maybe it's obvious to everyone but me, but you can just jam the button and the Silver Pendant will shield you through the entire attack. I thought it was some sort of tight timing thing for the longest time.
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Aug 12, 2016 23:49
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yeah i always hit the pendant twice for each magic attack and it shields all the way through with no issues also maybe obvious but i removed all my other quick use items so i only had to switch between estus and pendant
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Aug 12, 2016 23:54
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Beat my first invader in Township (and got 27k souls for it, holy cow) but even with a summon Manus wiped me. I got him down to about 1/3 but he grabbed me off guard with a leap straight into a tantrum while I was chugging estus to heal my summon.
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Aug 13, 2016 06:12
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if it makes you feel better i found manus terribly difficult and took a break for like a week before i got back to it and learned it. hardest boss in the game for me
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Aug 13, 2016 06:18
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Hello everyone. I'm just now getting into this due to the Steam sale a few months ago, and the honeymoon being over with Legion. My first thought was to go for a Thief starting out (Master Key and Pendant) and then swap over to a Priest caster. Do Priests have viable caster options? Or should I look at going Pyromancer and setting everything on fire? (And maybe looking at the Grave Lord? Covenant because Nito looks awesome.) Is this a viable idea, or am I setting myself up for even more death, misery and frustration than a normal DrS play through?
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Oct 4, 2016 01:19
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Pendant doesn't do anything, if you prefer to be a cleric you might as well do that and pick Master Key as your gift. Master key isn't very useful for a first playthrough though. Clerics aren't really attack casters. They do have some good damage dealing spells but you have to leap through some hoops to get them. They're more focused on melee and support spells. If you want to be an attack caster then Sorcerer starts out weak but has the potential to become insanely strong. Pyro is a bit more of a melee/caster hybrid but can also become really good, it's my favorite starting class. Covenant doesn't really matter. If you go with Nito you'll get a cool miracle, but good luck getting any multiplayer action as a Gravelord Servant at this point. Go with whatever starting class you want to play though. None of them is so bad that you'd be advised not to pick them, and all of them can be built in any direction you find interesting. Classes aren't very significant choice overall. You're going to die a lot no matter what.
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Oct 4, 2016 01:50
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GoingPostal posted:Is this a viable idea, or am I setting myself up for even more death, misery and frustration than a normal DrS play through? quote:My first thought was to go for a Thief starting out (Master Key and Pendant) quote:and then swap over to a Priest caster. Do Priests have viable caster options? quote:Or should I look at going Pyromancer and setting everything on fire? quote:(And maybe looking at the Grave Lord? Covenant because Nito looks awesome.)
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Oct 4, 2016 03:32
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Gravelord sword is totally worth that covenant all on its own imo
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Oct 4, 2016 09:04
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skasion posted:Master key isn't very useful for a first playthrough though.
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Oct 4, 2016 09:23
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GoingPostal posted:Hello everyone. I'm just now getting into this due to the Steam sale a few months ago, and the honeymoon being over with Legion. You should also realize that nothing in the game is class-specific, so you can add Pyromancy to any class. By class-specific, I mean - you will never encounter a weapon/item which say, only a Cleric can use. Same with Spells/Miracles/Pyromancies. If you have the stats for something, you can use it. Miracles need Faith and a Talisman, Sorceries need Intelligence and a Catalyst, and Pyro just needs a flame. All of the items listed there (Talisman, Catalyst, Pyro Flame) can either be purchased from vendors as soon as you have passed the "tutorial" boss, or found within the first quarter of the game. Agreeing that Thief is probably not a great idea for a first playthrough.
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Oct 4, 2016 12:44
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So I've been sick this past week, and revisiting this game. I never actually managed to finish a second playthrough, and so far I've got a character who's gotten stuck going up against Nito. Nobody really likes to hang out there to get summoned and help it seems. Any advice there? I've got another character who I went through the whole nine yards with to preserve Solaire, I normally scrimp on humanity, but with this character I spent it all getting to chaos servant +2. 'Course, the elevator didn't activate after I beat the first dude in the Demon Ruins, so I went and killed the big butt demon and decided to knock out the centipede demon while I was at it because that ring sure is handy. After that I went to kill the sunlight maggots, and it was going fine until Solaire snuck up behind me. He wasn't there when I opened the door! Did he follow me or something? I turned off my console in shock, is there any way to recover?
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Oct 6, 2016 21:42
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Awesome! posted:if it makes you feel better i found manus terribly difficult and took a break for like a week before i got back to it and learned it. hardest boss in the game for me 1. Artorias 2. Manus 3. Ornstein And Smough 4. Gwyn 5. Capra Demon
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Oct 6, 2016 21:46
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You could swap Ornstein and Gwyn too.
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Oct 6, 2016 21:46
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SlothfulCobra posted:So I've been sick this past week, and revisiting this game. I never actually managed to finish a second playthrough, and so far I've got a character who's gotten stuck going up against Nito. Nobody really likes to hang out there to get summoned and help it seems. Any advice there? People don't usually put signs down for Nito because he's not very hard. What exactly is giving you trouble about him? My quick and dirty guide to Nito is: -make sure you're fastrolling and have a good 100% shield -as soon as you drop down, listen for the high pitched scream, this is the tell for his magic sword attack. It can be fastrolled through. Might take a couple of attempts to get the timing right. -be close to Nito, but try to stay in the area where you first dropped down. There's resurrecting giant skeletons hanging out in the back of his arena who will make the fight very hard if you aggrieve them. -get in around Nito's feet and most of his attacks will kill the little skeletons before they can do you too much harm. But keep your shield ready just in case you come under pressure from them. -his aoe explosion can be blocked with a good shield, but if you can retreat back into the alcove where you first dropped down that's a good place to be too. -when in doubt just whale on his ankles. He's not very healthy and most of his attacks are more dangerous to the skellies than they are to you. In re Solaire, did you enter Lost Izalith at all before you killed the maggot? That can break Solaire's quest iirc.
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Oct 6, 2016 22:29
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skasion posted:People don't usually put signs down for Nito because he's not very hard. What exactly is giving you trouble about him? My quick and dirty guide to Nito is: as far as the skeletons, they do permadie if you use a holy weapon/silver knight spear, so that's another option if you feel like you need room to move.
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Oct 6, 2016 22:46
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go heavy armor and tank his bullshit
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Oct 6, 2016 23:07
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:as far as the skeletons, they do permadie if you use a holy weapon/silver knight spear, so that's another option if you feel like you need room to move. This is true, but if you have a decent divine weapon you're probably not having trouble with Nito to begin with.
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Oct 6, 2016 23:20
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Put on the highest poise armor you have, kindle the bonfire, and just ignore the skeletons
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Oct 6, 2016 23:23
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Thanks for the advice. Fast rolling wasn't really an option for this character, since I built her around greatshields and a giant weapon, but the advice to stay back helped, and I just tanked the magic damage and believed in myself, and I made it through, I have a bad habit of always jonesing for a summon before most boss fights, and I forgot how much less health that they have when you go it alone. skasion posted:In re Solaire, did you enter Lost Izalith at all before you killed the maggot? That can break Solaire's quest iirc. I may have peeked over there to see a sad Solaire before I went off to ruin his day further by taking away his sun.  I wanted to see Solaire at the end, and this character had a tough time with Artorias, so I'm a little apprehensive of taking him to Gwynn alone.
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Oct 7, 2016 04:37
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FactsAreUseless posted:Manus is a really hard fight, I just found him easier than Artorias. I would rate boss difficulty: soloing O&S on NG+ is when you know you've made it as a Dark Souls player
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Oct 7, 2016 10:51
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SlothfulCobra posted:Thanks for the advice. Fast rolling wasn't really an option for this character, since I built her around greatshields and a giant weapon, but the advice to stay back helped, and I just tanked the magic damage and believed in myself, and I made it through, You can still talk to sad Solaire without breaking his questline. It's the appearance of the words "Lost Izalith" as you enter the area which is the point of no return. But no - there is no way to recover. RIP Solaire I'm sure someone here will come sunbro for Gwyn. If you're playing on PS3, I will. If you're on PC I can't help. For Nito I always downgrade the Occult Club you get in Anor Londo to +5 Divine and kill the small Skeletons with it- usually before Nito has even made it over to me, then as long as you don't aggro the Giant Skeletons, he's easy-peasy. hawaiian_robot posted:soloing O&S on NG+ is when you know you've made it as a Dark Souls player My secret shame for the longest time was that I had never solo'd O&S.  At the very least I always summoned Solaire. I finally did it on probably my 20th playthrough, an a couple of times since then. But yes - it feels like man-mode when you pull it off. Same with parrying Havel which feels like INSTANT man-mode and causes you to instantly grow 4 inches of chest hair.
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Oct 7, 2016 13:22
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On the other hand while I've spent hours and hours dying to a large number of Souls bosses throughout the games (for some reason DS3 had more of them than any other for me), I did OnS completely solo on my first try. Not using any spells, since I know Sorcery can trivialize it quite a bit, it was a fairly generic light-armor fast-rolling character with balanced str and dex, can't remember the weapon. I'd never seen anyone else do the fight before either, although I had been spoiled with pictures of OnS so I knew it was a 2-boss fight with a fatty and a spearman. Felt good after dying 43 times in a row to Capra Demon. Insurrectionist fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Oct 7, 2016 |
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Oct 7, 2016 13:53
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I beat every boss solo my first time because I didn't understand you had to be human to summon. Then I realized it's way more fun to win by your own merit so I beat every boss solo since 
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Oct 7, 2016 13:55
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After doing it alone I hang out and get summoned by others. And on the following runs I'll summon people cos it's a sunbro thing and they need those medals
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Oct 7, 2016 15:29
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I think co-op makes these games exponentially more fun, so I like to summon even if I don't need it, and also be summoned. Part of the strength of Dark Souls is that it adapts fairly well to however you choose to play it. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Oct 7, 2016 |
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Oct 7, 2016 19:29
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Everyone posted:Solaire There's a secret to keeping Solaire alive without changing your covenant or using humanity, and I never see anyone mention it. Just don't talk to him at Anor Londo. He won't go anywhere until you do. Then he won't be in Izalith, so you can clear out the bugs safely and go back to Anor Londo to move him along. This works for me every time I do it. It probably works even better if you just leave him at the dragon bridge, but you can get the White Soapstone from him and still pull it off.
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Oct 9, 2016 05:03
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I just cast poison mist through the closed door/wall where the bugs are in the other side. Kills em and my buddy Solaire never gets... whatever it is that happens to him. Poor man.
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Oct 9, 2016 16:18
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Charles Bukowski posted:I just cast poison mist through the closed door/wall where the bugs are in the other side. Kills em and my buddy Solaire never gets... whatever it is that happens to him. Poor man.
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Oct 9, 2016 17:03
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Charles Bukowski posted:I just cast poison mist through the closed door/wall where the bugs are in the other side. Kills em and my buddy Solaire never gets... whatever it is that happens to him. Poor man. The bugs are parasites that drive their host insane. Also make for a spiffy reading light
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Paracelsus posted:If you don't make the circuit to the other side of the door without dying, though, you'll lose the hat. I don't think I ever died trying to get it, but I see your point. I also put that section off forever and do the Tomb with just a skull lantern.
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