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I only picked this game up last weekend and had only beat Demon's Souls once prior, no NG+. So far, I think all of the changes make sense, but overall everything feels.... easier? I'm having more trouble figuring out where to go next than in getting there. I miss the Nexus structure.
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| # ¿ Nov 9, 2011 22:18 |
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Underwhelmed posted:I thought this one was easier at first too, but after revisiting Demon's Souls, and destroying it without even breaking a sweat, I have to say that Dark Souls is definitely the more challenging of the two. Maybe that's what it is, I'm just still coming down from being a superpowered sword-god and I haven't hit any real challenges yet. I liked the Nexus for a number of reasons, but mainly because they bothered to tie it into the story. If it was just "here are the worlds go play them" I would agree with you, but it felt cool the way they explained it. YMMV. The world of Dark Souls is more interesting, but I am lazy and it's a pain in the rear end running from one side to the other. Also, I loving HATED Demon's Souls until I started thinking of it like Armored Core. FROM makes great games once you get your head in the right place.
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| # ¿ Nov 9, 2011 23:22 |
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Palleon posted:I'm not sure anyone knows because I've not once seen a rated message anywhere in the game except the ones I rate myself. How do you do this, I don't get any option when I read a message. Is there an item?
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| # ¿ Nov 9, 2011 23:55 |
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Palleon posted:You have to use the orange soapstone after reading a message. I don't know why they made it so ridiculously inconvenient to rate or write messages, but it's one of the huge backwards steps they made from Demon's Souls, taking an awesome, unique feature and crippling it to the point of uselessness. Wow that loving sucks, I don't want to expend an item to tell someone they did a good job expending their own item. The old message system was way better 
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| # ¿ Nov 10, 2011 00:56 |
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Elysiume posted:It isn't consumed. It has infinite uses. It's hard and I hate it! (I thought it had limited uses, I'm not at home to check).
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| # ¿ Nov 10, 2011 00:58 |
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I know the multiplayer has been changed, but exactly how many people are in my 'area' maximum? It seems like in Demon's there were ghosts all over the place, now I rarely if ever see anyone or even messages. Feels lonesome.
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| # ¿ Nov 10, 2011 22:34 |
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I was under the impression it was calculated similar to damage, i.e. chance to do bleed/toxic * multipliers - enemy resistance = chance of bleeding/toxin.
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| # ¿ Nov 10, 2011 23:58 |
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Huh. Not saying you're wrong, that makes a lot of sense, but I was able to get bleed on the undead in the asylum with the starting Wanderer sword, sometimes on the first hit, sometimes never. I'm not sure how that shakes out.
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| # ¿ Nov 11, 2011 00:13 |
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I just beat Queelag with the help of some awesome phantoms, is there an easy way back to Firelink or do I have to slog all the way back through Blighttown? I found that shortcut door in the Depths (down a ladder behind boxes), but I can't find the Blighttown side to open it.
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| # ¿ Nov 11, 2011 04:01 |
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I just went through that area for the first time, and while I can tell I missed a lot the main path is Down. The blowgun guys don't seem to come back after you kill them once. Drake Sword is loving awesome.
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| # ¿ Nov 11, 2011 04:07 |
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Can you be a tiny bit more specific about where the elevator is, please? I rang the bell, saw no other switches, got some nice rear end armor and died to Ceaseless Discharge. Which way?
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| # ¿ Nov 11, 2011 04:10 |
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poo poo, then I must have missed it somehow. Thanks, knowing where not to look helps too. Thanks, I think I can find that. I summoned my phantoms at the bonfire and bossrushed, didn't have time to look around. Chard fucked around with this message at Nov 11, 2011 around 04:16 |
| # ¿ Nov 11, 2011 04:13 |
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enojy posted:If this is a Steve Brule reference, then I love you, Sunshine. I think I broke DeS on my first playthrough by grinding too much. 4 sub-boss and boss, 5 boss, and both Allants never. Even. Touched me. Just arrows forever until they are all dead.
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| # ¿ Nov 11, 2011 06:47 |
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Is the Black Eye Orb a one-shot? Because fuuuuuuuuuuck....
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| # ¿ Nov 12, 2011 07:46 |
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I can't get the Black Eye Orb to vibrate again, I've been back as undead and human and I think I missed my shot. How loving lame.
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| # ¿ Nov 12, 2011 17:16 |
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I can't, though. I tried using it in the same spot but the option was crossed out. Question: Did even attempting O+S block me from using it? I just ran in to look at them and died.
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| # ¿ Nov 12, 2011 17:19 |
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ConfusedUs posted:Have you put down a summoning sign? Using one form of multiplayer item sometimes seems to mess with using another. Nope, I just ran back as Undead, couldn't get it, returned again as Human, couldn't get it, so I said gently caress it and summoned sunbro and beat O+S. Now I have a warp ring and bitch can just stay dead for all I care. I love these games, and how obscure they are. I don't even mind screwing myself over from time to time. BUT, it pisses me right off when it doesn't even tell you what you did wrong. Makes me want to play through again a lot less. e: I was screwed the moment I went through the light into the boss room, wasn't I? e2: According to this it is a one-time item: http://darksouls.wikidot.com/black-eye-orb Chard fucked around with this message at Nov 12, 2011 around 17:39 |
| # ¿ Nov 12, 2011 17:25 |
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In the Depths, is there any way to get back up past the waterslide, or do you have to plow ahead through Gaping Dragon/Blighttown once you go down it?
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| # ¿ Nov 13, 2011 18:32 |
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I found one side of the door I think you're talking about (down a ladder hidden behind boxes), but I can't find the entrance to get to the other side. It's somewhere after the waterslide though?
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| # ¿ Nov 13, 2011 18:35 |
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Thanks! I guess by the time I got there, I had forgotten/given up on finding the other side. Perfect spot for a shortcut, of course.
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| # ¿ Nov 13, 2011 18:55 |
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Man, I loved the Poison Swamp so much in Demon's Souls, I am so 110% glad to see the same exact goddamn thing make a glorious return in this game  Blighttown isn't even that difficult, but it suffers even worse frame rate than the swamp did, and it's just ugly to look at.e: Feenix, one thing I messed up on my first character was not leveling my weapons, like at all. This round, I'm avoiding leveling my character until I hit a wall, and until then putting all my souls into my weapon and shield. Seems to be working great so far. Chard fucked around with this message at Nov 14, 2011 around 00:06 |
| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 00:04 |
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Feenix posted:Me: Burn a humanity and take Solaire of Astoria in with you, his sign is right at the fog gate. I see lots of player signs at the top of the elevator, too. It makes a huge difference.
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| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 00:08 |
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Can Quelaag be poisoned? Obviously my other pyromancy isn't going to help, but it would be nice if I could just spray her down and wait instead of plinking away with my thief knife/bow.
Chard fucked around with this message at Nov 14, 2011 around 00:24 |
| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 00:22 |
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I tested it with Poison Mist and poison arrows, doesn't look like Quelaag can be poisoned. Makes sense considering. Found out that you can practically hug her and it's pretty safe. I'm still getting owned so I'll come back stronger 
Chard fucked around with this message at Nov 14, 2011 around 02:17 |
| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 02:15 |
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What would you guys say is an average soul level for finishing the game for the first time? No gimmicks, mainly DEX build, seeing most of the game.
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| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 04:32 |
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Elysiume posted:...298: Decided I want to glitch one character to a high level. Never play him; it's boring.  Please tell me how you did this.
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| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 05:01 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:Since my latest run was no pyromancy and no lightning weapons, I couldn't tell if the Japanese patches made those just a little bit less powerful overall or a lot less powerful. Just the numbers alone don't tell the whole story, I'd have to have tested it to see if it can one-shot significantly fewer kinds of enemies and so on. Backstepping has exactly one use - making the person who just whiffed you feel like a fool.
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| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 07:03 |
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Having lots of humanity boosts your item discovery. It is literally grinding to grind better.
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| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 07:37 |
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You can burn through a lot of humanity really fast trying to find good phantoms for a boss fight.
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| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 07:44 |
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Chard posted:You can burn through a lot of humanity really fast trying to find good phantoms for a boss fight. Also, is input lag a problem for anyone else? I find my attacks get 'stuck' behind my shield fairly often, in addition to just general slowness when I least need it. lol quote is not edit
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| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 07:46 |
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HondaCivet posted:Listen for his hammer (and then get really sick of listening to it). Whenever I go near him, he's surrounded by "I can't take this..." comments 
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| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 22:20 |
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I shouldn't have picked a fight with the pretty lady with the tail. Now she's stabbing(?) me from thin air and all of my blood is coming out. e: GOD I LOVE POISON MIST 
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| # ¿ Nov 15, 2011 02:56 |
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Elysiume posted:Priscilla is a chill lady and you're a jerk. She had a tail! You know what that means I have to do. Anyways, I couldn't get it so I just dosed her with The Mist and let her fester to death. Farming Phalanx that way while I read the forums helped.
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| # ¿ Nov 15, 2011 03:11 |
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^^^^^^ Holy poo poo  Sexual Aluminum posted:Do I only get 1 chance to invade Laurtec? Don't worry, I absolutely freaked out over this as well. It didn't help that the wiki I was looking at was wrong and said Black Eye Orb was one-time use (to be fair I think they meant it only works here, which I think is true). e2:  Could you use the D-pad to zoom the arrow aiming in Demon's Souls? I feel like a fool for not bumping that button sooner.
Chard fucked around with this message at Nov 15, 2011 around 04:37 |
| # ¿ Nov 15, 2011 04:34 |
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das four posted:Having some trouble actually getting into Blighttown - I just killed Gaping Dragon and made my way down to the entrance of it via the Depths, but the enemies are kicking my rear end. THIS. gently caress Blighttown and the pig-raping hillbilly swamp monsters that live there. As far as a shortcut, if you can kill the drakes it's probably faster to go through their valley. Prettier, anyway.
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| # ¿ Nov 15, 2011 04:38 |
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No matter what the 'official' name is, they are Shitlords to me from now on. I'm really glad I bailed on the pyro I hosed up my stats on. I'm trying to really get into the RP side of the Thief I made this time, which means shitloads of backstabs, and poison arrows and poison mist. It's working very well so far - just sit back and watch the suckers die 
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| # ¿ Nov 15, 2011 04:46 |
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It bugs me that you can't walk with a drawn arrow. I can do that in real life, surely my nigh-invincible undead warmaster can do the same? Also, what happens if you go back to Painted World after killing the boss? She's gone like all bosses, right? Come to think of it, CAN you go back?
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| # ¿ Nov 15, 2011 04:52 |
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buzzsaw.gif posted:OH and then finally, about 25% of the way through the third character's NG, discovering that you can equip a bow in the off hand and press L1 to get your guy to hold it with both hands. I can't believe I didn't figure that out sooner. This has been my technique since I picked up Demon's Souls, it's awesome isn't it!? Sucks when you want a shield NOW, just be careful. Just made Quelaag's Furysword... ohhh my goodddd it's so sexy can't wait to slice a bitch.
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| # ¿ Nov 15, 2011 05:27 |
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Do you get more message options is certain paths/covenants? Either way I hope we get more options in patches, it's a bit limited as-is. The Gesture menu seems to suggest you can use the Sixaxis but I haven't gotten it to work, is there a button to hold? Yes I have Sixaxis controllers.
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| # ¿ Nov 15, 2011 05:29 |
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Sacrificial Toast posted:You have to hold X while doing the gesture. It works sometimes, and better for some gestures than others. Thanks, that works! Totally in the DSouls spirit, I don't think that explained anywhere.
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