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Umm, it shouldn't take 3 hours. Took me about 15 minutes.
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It does vary by hardware, there's four updates to apply with reboots/running spconfig between each.
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zapateria posted:Spending Friday night installing SP1 and the June CU Depending on the patches it also updates the database schema. So it also depends on the SQL server and the size of the databases. Edit: And the number of servers in your farm. We have 2 Web Front Ends, and 3 Application Servers. So installing bits on all 5 then runing the config wizard on all of them took some time.
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Hi all, I was tasked with creating an internal KB for my department to maintain process documentation, how-to articles, SAS70 documentation and department records. Other than requiring levels of access rights, this seems like about the simplest KB deployment I could imagine, and I was planning on using Sharepoint Foundation to build it. My understanding is that almost any CM software (wiki, Drupal site) could handle the same function, but I'm more familiar with Windows than Linux and I wanted to use this as a chance to learn Sharepoint since it seems to be increasingly common. I'm not working against any hard deadline and I don't expect the dataset to come close to the 4GB limit of SQL Express 2008, so this seems like a perfect learning experience. In addtion to the points laid out in the OP, I was wondering: 1. Is it a bad idea to use Sharepoint Foundation? Would I love life more if I just used an OSS alternative? 2. Is using Sharepoint Foundation's internal database a bad idea for such a simple site? 3. If something miraculous happens and people start using the site beyond the original intentions, how hard is it to export the databse to a real SQL server farm and/or update the Sharepoint install from Foundation? 4. Does anyone have a good resource for site design and/or templates? Or should I just shell out $40 and buy the Professional SharePoint 2010 Administration book that was recommended earlier in this thread? Thanks in advance.
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Beelzebubba9 posted:
First Questions for you! 1. How many employees do you have? How many of those will be using this 2. Is this Knowledge base going to be getting documents uploaded? office type files, pdf, small databases, etc? 3. How often are people going to be adding and taking away from it? 4. What hardware do you have? NAS? Servers? Network? Sharepoint loves to gobble resources make sure you don't have a shotty set up. DNS also HAS to be working fine for sharepoint to work right, you do not want it on a domain with a iffy DNS My opinion as of now, but answer the previous and following questions for a more defined answer 1. Yes it can be done with foundation, will it be as easy as the next level up? Probably not, you will most likely need to get more in the nitty gritty and script a lot of stuff. I would recommend going to Standard, for future expansion and just great features you will thank yourself on later on it will help. I don't think foundation has the ability to Failover or cluster. 2. Depends, Do you want to be looking for a new job when the server shits itself? and it will happen! Small companies usually can get away with the internal workings, but if you have over 50 seats look into a stand alone SQL server, with backups! 3. If there is even the slightest possibility that this is going to become a day-to-day application usage get a standalone SQL server trust me, SQL and Sharepoint will run on the same host but you are going to get crippling speeds in I/O, High Mem usage, and CPU cycles. Sharepoint already is going to eat alot of hardware, don't push it. Run these things in VMs if possible snapshots will save your rear end. 4. That books is kinda okay, it will put you to sleep, your best chance is that book and this one http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Sha...18877937&sr=1-1 Yes I used that too, it is a great visual reference, and believe me you will use it.
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Corvettefisher posted:1. How many employees do you have? How many of those will be using this The company has ~70 employees, but I doubt more than 30 will ever access the site in total, let alone at once. My department employs maybe 30 people, but I only expect 5-10 of them to contrinute to the site in total. Basically we have very little process documentation and most of our records are scattered around as various folders of .PDFs and Excel Spreadsheets and what I'd like to do is consolidate them into a centrally managed and searchable system so that if I and my predecessor get hit by a bus the rest of the company won't be SOL. Corvettefisher posted:2. Is this Knowledge base going to be getting documents uploaded? office type files, pdf, small databases, etc? Yes. I don't imagine that there will be any great quantity, but I careers have likely been ended over less ambigious speculation. Corvettefisher posted:3. How often are people going to be adding and taking away from it? Once all of the outstanding content gets integrated into the site, I expect no more than a few times a week. Corvettefisher posted:4. What hardware do you have? NAS? Servers? Network? Sharepoint loves to gobble resources make sure you don't have a shotty set up. DNS also HAS to be working fine for sharepoint to work right, you do not want it on a domain with a iffy DNS The company has a number of NOCs and pretty massive hardware resources available (I just finished setting up a 2k8 R2 test server in a VM with 8GB of RAM), so unless we're talking about a bare-to-the-metal install on a dual socket server with 64GB of RAM and SSDs for IO then I think we'll be fine. Our DNS is pretty rock solid, and if it breaks, it gets fixed ASAP by people far more capable than I. Corvettefisher posted:My opinion as of now, but answer the previous and following questions for a more defined answer 1. What, roughly, are the licensing costs for Sharepoint Standard? 2. Again, pardon my ignorance, but would would the approximate licensing costs for that be? 3. Thanks! 4. I'll definitely take a look at the book.
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Beelzebubba9 posted:The company has ~70 employees, but I doubt more than 30 will ever access the site in total, let alone at once. My department employs maybe 30 people, but I only expect 5-10 of them to contrinute to the site in total. quote:Basically we have very little process documentation and most of our records are scattered around as various folders of .PDFs and Excel Spreadsheets and what I'd like to do is consolidate them into a centrally managed and searchable system so that if I and my predecessor get hit by a bus the rest of the company won't be SOL. quote:Once all of the outstanding content gets integrated into the site, I expect no more than a few times a week. quote:The company has a number of NOCs and pretty massive hardware resources available (I just finished setting up a 2k8 R2 test server in a VM with 8GB of RAM), so unless we're talking about a bare-to-the-metal install on a dual socket server with 64GB of RAM and SSDs for IO then I think we'll be fine. Our DNS is pretty rock solid, and if it breaks, it gets fixed ASAP by people far more capable than I.  Wow... Sounds like you got the back end! Sharepoint will probably run you about 8GB for the number of users you have(I am projecting for all users as a failsafe), probably 4~5GB for a dedicated SQL server.quote:1. What, roughly, are the licensing costs for Sharepoint Standard? Foundations is free with server 2008 r2, Standard is like 799(this might be for Office communicator 2010) or 2 grand I can't really remember off the top of my head. I will look through a previous work order. You can compare editions here http://sharepoint.microsoft.com/en-...Comparison.aspx check what is best, lemme know if you have any other questions Sharepoint Foundations install => http://www.microsoft.com/download/e...ls.aspx?id=5970 OP if you see this can you add the link to the OP Corvettefisher fucked around with this message at Oct 17, 2011 around 20:34 |
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Corvettefisher posted:awesome advice Thank you very much! This is all very useful.
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Our document management software is basically SQL + some lovely plugins for office, which isnt update anymore. About 100 users on Citrix/ Desktops with about 50,000 documents. Sharepoint going to cut it, will it make my life easier, why do I work here?
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Sharepoint is like a pair of vice grips when working on a car. It is never the correct tool, but it can normally be a brute force substitute.
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GateheaD posted:Our document management software is basically SQL + some lovely plugins for office, which isnt update anymore. It will make your life easier from citrix but don't expect to be able to snooze in the office.
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Corvettefisher posted:Probably, users will take a bit of time getting use to SharePoint(Que training sessions!!!), ACL's can be a pain depending how strict you need it to be. And Sharepoint usually takes someone reading the logs once a week, and managing backend stuff. Don't forget about audiences, that's an easy way to filter links and web parts. On the main page I have a document library that's only visible to people in the engineering group, I've considered adding an announcement section that displays info based on the office you're in.
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Just got this in my inbox: Hi Whiskas, I don’t have SharePoint on my computer can you have that arranged? Jane Doe Executive Assistant Systems like Sharepoint will never be truly useful until the paper pushing/file cabinet generation retires. Pray for me.
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Yeah, the older generation is always reluctant/too uneducated(in technology) to adapt to new stuff quickly. Much of my company has no idea what the corporate intranet even is, despite the emails they were sent for months before it launched. Now I go to new hire orientation and tell them about it, as well as the yearly re-certification trainings. It gets some people that otherwise had no clue, but for many, it goes in one ear and out the other.
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cptInsane0 posted:Yeah, the older generation is always reluctant/too uneducated(in technology) to adapt to new stuff quickly. Much of my company has no idea what the corporate intranet even is, despite the emails they were sent for months before it launched. Now I go to new hire orientation and tell them about it, as well as the yearly re-certification trainings. It gets some people that otherwise had no clue, but for many, it goes in one ear and out the other.
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Yep. I do that, but they still don't quite get it. The orientation helps some, and the fact that they have to go there to check their pay stubs.
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Misogynist posted:General rule of IT: people need tech demos showing them all the cool poo poo they can do or they don't get it. The general problem with tech demos: if you were to ask a random person in your audience to do a task that you had just demonstrated they would likely stumble around the interface clumsily, and eventually admit failure. The second problem with tech demos: you're demonstrating that you know how to work the system. From that point on if anyone needs something done in that system they'll just ask you to do it, as opposed to doing it themselves. Pro Tip: If I'm doing any kind of training or orientation session in SharePoint I WILL pick a random person and ask them to do a task I had just demonstrated. 90% of the time they have trouble but that's fine and expected. First, you have a chance to address a lot of issues the other people in your audience would have had if they were to try and repeat it on their own. And secondly, it makes them pay attention because they're afraid they'll be picked next and made a fool out of. Finally, having a tech geek do stuff in front of them and say it's easy isn't very convincing. But having the bimbo blond secretary do it in front of them does prove it is easy.
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I am trying to make a collapsible list, and as of right now, I am following this guide: http://plugins.jquery.com/project/menuTree I have set up my list like that, which is how I had already set it up before I decided to make it collapse, and I followed the instructions. However, I don't actually have access to the <head> section of the page. Not without going into the master page, and I don't especially feel like doing that. So, can I just include the library in-line? If so, I have already done that, and it didn't do much. Also, it shows some CSS to use to style the thing, and I know how to put that inline, but it doesn't really tell you how to label your list items to designate them as something to collapse and expand. It looks like the anchor is what does it. I am not sure if It is just not calling the jquery library properly. Do I need to just do that in a separate web part? If so, does it go above or below the list?
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Word of advice: Never remove the farm admin from the administrators group as the User profile service app will shoot itself in the face. I tried to change the user it the service app runs under and which unprovisioned it resulting in me having to rebuild it (manage to keep the DBs intact)which got it back to working however as soon as I rebooted it after some updates it failed to start so I had to set it back to run under the farm admin. Also, anyone got suggestions for making SharePoint more Project management friendly? I'm setting up a site for my team so we can keep track of our projects and I want to be able to easily look and see who's working on what project and see what's on our roadmap. I'm currently using tasks but it's kinda limited.
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Would you guys happen to know of any "official" resources that essentially describe why Sharepoint is a bad idea? One of our clients is getting really wanting to implement Sharepoint for document management and ticketing, and based on what I've seen so far in this thread, that seems like a fairly bad idea. If there's anything I could point them to that might change their minds, please let me know.
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Mr. Gravy posted:Would you guys happen to know of any "official" resources that essentially describe why Sharepoint is a bad idea? Sharepoint isn't a bad idea, Just show them the Total Cost of setting up and running it. Most companies will run from it, unless they actually need it.
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Mr. Gravy posted:One of our clients is getting really wanting to implement Sharepoint for document management and ticketing, and based on what I've seen so far in this thread, that seems like a fairly bad idea. Most of what you're reading here is a bunch of windows admins bitching about SharePoint. It doesn't matter what system we're administering, we're still going to bitch about it.
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When we finish bitching about Sharepoint, we move on to our backup and ticket systems.
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I'm moving on to greener pastures which means I'm passing on the torch for being the SharePoint admin. The new guy doesn't start until the end of the month though so I've got time to write up docs and such but I'm going to train him on SharePoint even though I'll be his backup. Anyone got ideas for things I should mention? My plan is to tear down my test server and walk him through building it from scratch so he knows about all the working bits to it.
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Ashex posted:I'm moving on to greener pastures which means I'm passing on the torch for being the SharePoint admin. The new guy doesn't start until the end of the month though so I've got time to write up docs and such but I'm going to train him on SharePoint even though I'll be his backup. Passwords, Backup procedures, custom site/xml scripts, update policies, and what normal load is. Everything else he should be able to grasp if he has EXP
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Corvettefisher posted:Passwords, Backup procedures, custom site/xml scripts, update policies, and what normal load is. Everything else he should be able to grasp if he has EXP You reminded me to update the architecture document! It's got most of that in there, I'll need to add in the bit about document templates and columns too. To add to SharePoint mindfuckery, I can't get my audiences to work. I know why but when I fix it to work nobody sees anything  The source of the issue is how our domain is setup, we have separate sub-domains for each continent, so eur.company.com, aus.company.com, and na.company.com the problem arises in that the domain name for na.company.com is different fromthe forest name, so while it's location at na.company.com you login with foo\user. So the user profile app imported all the user profiles and it looks fine for the other domains but na.company.com is all jacked up. I tried enabling netbios but it still imports as na\user. When audiences aren't working everyone sees everything, if I correct the issue (add the user profile proxy to the service connection for the web app) then audiences work but since the domain na\ doesn't exist nobody sees anything. Edit: Looks like I need to do this. Ashex fucked around with this message at Nov 11, 2011 around 21:29 |
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Fun times, Engineering Manager just asked if we could start using Sharepoint. He thinks it is just part of Office and automatically links everyone together!
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the spyder posted:Fun times, Engineering Manager just asked if we could start using Sharepoint. He thinks it is just part of Office and automatically links everyone together! Well, if you have someone to set it up right most of the stuff will sync office things, but it is a shitload of backend work
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I am the admin, but thankfully I got them to put it off until spring after our new vm environment will be in place and I can focus on all the fun things I have read about Sharepoint.
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Technically you can link SharePoint to the office apps! I added a Document library to outlook so I can dig up information people ask about quickly. I also have OneNote notebooks stored on SharePoint so I can share it with multiple people! You can also open documents directly through a office app using the document url.
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I'm working with Sharepoint Foundation for a customer, and they're having an issue uploading large files. I've managed to increase the max filesize by setting maxAllowedContentLength to 2147483647 and this works when I upload, but not the customer. I believe this is to do with the executionTimeout setting in IIS, because when i limit my upload speed to match his DSL connection it fails to upload, but works when not limited to 512Kb/s I've set executiontimeout to 3600 in the sharepoint - 80 vhost's web.config and the web.config in 14/Template/Layouts and restarted IIS but it doesn't fix the issue. Anyone know what I'm missing here?
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My infopath form library for our CSRs has reached over 50k entries! Yippie! I've got real time tracking for several different groups, accountability has sky rocketed, data entry is swift and efficient, reports are automated and our response time to outages (large ISP) is better than ever. God drat, we needed this SO bad. I love hunting out these terrible processes and gutting them to pieces. Projects just around the corner include revamping our retention group and voice provisioning team (dear god, their current implementation...). On top of it, my management has seen fit to give me a junior/apprentice to work with. He's your typical mountain dew sperg but he has some great abilities and is learning to work in our environment. The biggest hurdle I've encountered so far is the initial design and development phase. I've come to understand that if some part of the process is cumbersome, it is because I'm going about it incorrectly. This train of thought seems to fit every time.
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Has anyone attempted the 70-667 SharePoint Configuration Exam? I'm going to start studying studying pretty soon here, I'm rather interested how the will affect my future employment but it seems most SharePoint jobs are mostly for development.
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I'm new to SP and being forced to implement MOSS 2007 at our organization. Can someone recommend a good backup solution for SP? Someone has recommended Idera in addition to our normal server backups so we can easily restore individual files that a user accidentally deletes.
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FlyWhiteBoy posted:good backup solution for SP 
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FlyWhiteBoy posted:I'm new to SP and being forced to implement MOSS 2007 at our organization. Can someone recommend a good backup solution for SP? Someone has recommended Idera in addition to our normal server backups so we can easily restore individual files that a user accidentally deletes. Run it virtually and take snapshots.... really the easiest way
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FlyWhiteBoy posted:I'm new to SP and being forced to implement MOSS 2007 at our organization. Can someone recommend a good backup solution for SP? Someone has recommended Idera in addition to our normal server backups so we can easily restore individual files that a user accidentally deletes. Use stsadm for making site backups. And why the hell are you using 2007? Whoever decided to go with that over 2010 is an idiot.
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Ashex posted:Use stsadm for making site backups. And why the hell are you using 2007? Whoever decided to go with that over 2010 is an idiot. It was purchased several years ago and hasn't been used. Also we have Commvault currently backing up my test environment but I think a SP specific backup solution like Idera might work a little better. From what I understand I'll be able to recover individual files and changes more easily.
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So I am trying to add a Content Database from a Sharepoint 2.0 to Sharepoint 3.0 on a different server. I'm using the stsadm command to add the database but I keep getting a "'Docs_PK' is not a constraint." I've googled the error and haven't come up with much in ways of fixing it. I'm a SQL newb so I'd appreciate some guidance.
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I'm getting a really weird invalid input error when attempting to create a new web application. How can I clear all the database information and IIS metabase data to essentially do a new fresh install? Easy answer would be to reinstall the OS on both servers but I have some configurations I'd like to keep. TLDR: I broke my SP install how do I start over?
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