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silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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I need to find out where the GoonSpec thread is. Is that here? I'm organizing season 3, and need to let everyone know what the schedule will look like.

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silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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GentlemanofLeisure posted:

Yeah, the Goonspec stuff that Jabs has been running has just been posted in this thread. If you post it, people will see it.

edit: Are you going to be putting the schedule on his website?

Cool, thanks.

I sent him a PM on the autocross forum we're on, so hopefully so.

Tentative schedule is:

2xBTCC (Krautastic's formula)
1xSpecPinto
2xVintage sports cars (free on TheCowboyJoe's storefront. These were optimized for equal laptimes in testing.. all within .5 sec on Iberian)
1xGoonMons (target lap time format, project cars)
2xTransAm (Krautastic's formula, on his storefront for free, same deal as vintage)
1x??? (could be USTCC, could be modern GT, could be...?)
1xSpecPinto, finale (because the post-finale race was awesome. Kraut made a tune that's a blast to drive)


Vintage are a collection of almost all small displacement sports cars made between 1965 and 1982. The two exceptions are the '79 Camaro and Mustang II, because they're wholly unloved and I thought they would make for fun racing against tiny GTA's and Escorts and such. PI ranges from around 480 for the lowest (Elan) to ~535 for the highest (R5 T2). Krautastic and I were consistently finishing w/in half a second of each other after three laps no matter the pairing of cars.

Trans Am is similar to American Iron from season 1, but there are fewer available cars and again, extensive testing was done to equalize laptimes and speed. What makes this series fun is that all cars run with low pressure drag slicks which, IMO, do an excellent job at simulating '70s era biased-ply race tires.

As for ???, Who knows? I'll defer to Jabs here. I avoided USTCC because the VW R32 was 1-2seconds per lap faster than any other car in this format.




Edit: PS, I'm TheCowboyJoe

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silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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PopeOnARope posted:

So uh... what's SRP?

So, that's not quite the schedule I was thinking, but then again I haven't been officially given the title of "arbiter of all things GoonSpec" yet...

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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If we're racing tomorrow night, it will be BTCC, and apparently it's on Sedona club or full reverse. I'd like club, as it's a bit more touring car-y

Sedona
Raceway
Park

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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My ears are bleeding, and I'm really happy

#Ferrari

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Jabs posted:

I've got some personal stuff coming up over the next 116 days, and I don't know what my availability actually looks like at this point, so Joe is going to take over primary GoonMarshall duties for this season.

The only change I'd suggest to the schedule is that I initially set up for 3 month increments, so there ought be a third race to each of the three categories to bring the Season up to 12 weeks.

Depending on what my budget looks like at the end of Season 3, there may or may not be Secret Schwag, as there was for Season 2.

Boaz scored a 1600 point card, Joe and Dan both got SA account gift cert's, and are ineligible for the balance of the calendar year.

We shall see what the cards hold in 12 weeks!

I've tried to give Joe Editor permissions for the GoonSpec pages on my website - I'm waiting to hear back whether they're working - and I'm pretty sure he's got edit permissions on the GoonSpec Season Results doc...


Thanks Jabs!

Everyone else- you're in for it now!! muahahaha

I've posted a tentative schedule up on his site for now. I guess I'll add a third race to each category now, so it'll look a bit different.

For now, the Trans-Am cars are not available, as Krautastic is finalizing the roster. Same with SpecPinto. That was so much darn fun.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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GentlemanofLeisure posted:

Just to let it be known, anyone is welcome in the AUGR GoonSpec races. We have guys from a couple different clubs who race with us and I don't think we've ever fielded a 16-car grid.

One of them is me, and our season finale last season was full... Till the xbox servers poo'd all over our hopes and dreams.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Schedule is updated and available here: http://www.jonathonbarton.net/index.php/goonspec/goonspec-series-schedule/

Open to taking votes on TBA races.

Also throwing around the concept of "reward weight" for each mini-series.

First Place will net you a 10% power handicap in the next race, 2nd and 3rd get 5% up to a maximum 15%

Finishing lower than 5th will remove 5% of rewards weight.

LAST SEASON'S WINNING BTCC CAR HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM ELIGIBILITY

No, it's not because I'm mad I lost- I had one of those too. It was just too much faster than everything else.

The new Clio is also ineligible, as is the VW from the last pack.

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silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Kilonum posted:

What times are the races tonight?

We start at 8:00pm Mountain time. Usually everyone is on between 7 and 7:30, so we'll do test races beforehand.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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GentlemanofLeisure posted:

Fun GoonSpec BTCC race tonight. Here are the race results.

Heat 1

1st thecowboyjoe
2nd boaz macpherson
3rd krautastic
4th vertigo360
5th whatcubed3
6th sapopeonarope
7th xander i crews
8th aardmania
9th speedt3k
10th kilonum
11th dukket

Heat 2

1st boaz macpherson
2nd thecowboyjoe
3rd krautastic
4th xander i crews
5th whatcubed3
6th vertigo360
7th speedt3k
8th sapopeonarope
9th kilonum
DNF sac4eva (RACE TIMER)

DNF aardmania DROPPED FROM RACE
DNF dukket DROPPED FROM RACE

Edit: Here's a video that was recommended after we finished racing. A preview of sorts for next week's GoonSpec BTCC race at Silverstone. Youtube

So as of right now, standings are:
code:
Boaz McPherson  44
TheCowboyJoe    44
Krautastic      34
vertigo 360     26
whatcubed3      26
xander i crews  24
sapopeonarope   18
speedt3k        15
aardmania       13
kilonum         11
dukket          10
sac4eva         5

silverbullitt850 fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Mar 8, 2012

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Dammit Boaz, make it fun for everyone- don't run the fastest thing out there.

I'm running the Vauxhall Agila next week in all likelihood.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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What was his time?

After 5 laps I did a 1:31.507

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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I really don't understand why people are having a hard time with the ZR1. I drive with braking line as my only assist, normal steering and manual w/clutch and the button swap (clutch is A).

The car wants to understeer a ton, so you just have to be patient and easy on the gas.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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unless the car you're using has a first gear that goes up to 70

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Where are you guys having trouble? Maybe I can help.

Also, remember you can dip two wheels off in turns 1/2 and 7/9/10/11 (that's the right after the u-turn as #7)

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Wow, looks a lot like the spec I came up with for GoonSpec ;)

How would I go about joining you folks for those races (unless they're Wednesday nights)?

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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This is for the Wiesmann challenge? What was the time we had to beat?

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Tanz-Kommandant posted:

It wasn't as bad as I feared! Time to get crackin!

Edit: 2.06:770 (#442) on the Weismann, ain't trying the loving Corvette.

WOW.

I got a 2:09.1 and here I was thinking I was hot poo poo.

Edit: try and beat my time in the small car vs. suv rivals challenge. I'm still top 100 (TheCowboyJoe)

silverbullitt850 fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Mar 13, 2012

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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GOD IS BED posted:

Some shots of frustration from last night:
The hairpin!


Versa love (& hate)


The HAIRPIN!!


Great racing, guys.

Gamertag?

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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GOD IS BED posted:

Some shots of frustration from last night:


Versa love (& hate)




Great racing, guys.

That was me, rear end in a top hat.

I will say it totally makes it ok that the anime girls on the side of your car look terrified that you just hit me, and the one is pointing at my car like, "look-ah ouuuut!"

Also, I'm liking my countersteer :)

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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GOD IS BED posted:

Yeah, and it was completely unintentional, Joe. Sorry we aren't all racing superstars like yourself. Hope your first place win didn't make you cut yourself!

Supposed to be funny... Another internet communication fail.

As for Spec Miata, I don't think that's ever happening again, and it's my fault. I'd love to do it again, but after lapping all but 3rd (2nd?) place on Suzuka last time out, people weren't too thrilled.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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VERTiG0 posted:

I'm sorry for mangling the poo poo out of your car last night, it truly was a fuckup on my end and absolutely not on purpose. Anybody who races with me on a regular basis will attest that I am not the kind of person to do that. My engine and trans got knackered bad enough that I had to limp back to the pit immediately anyway.

Yeah man, it's fine. I just got really angry because I thought it was on purpose- had NO clue who did it. Had I seen that it was you I would've figured it wasn't on purpose. All worked out in the end (sorry boaz)

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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YF19pilot posted:

That square right before you join the main oval (forget the turn numbers), put the hammer down and keep it there.

When you merge onto the oval, there is a bump like right where you'd be if you took the 'middle line'. If you hit it, it'll upset your car and you'll crash. If you go high, you'll be slow for the rest of the lap. Try to stay below the bump if you can (essentially get as close to the cones on the right without actually hitting them).

Use as much of the track as you can and get right up against that outside wall. You want to try to set it up so you get as low of a line as possible through "Brickyard 1". Don't touch the grass. DO NOT Touch the grass. STAY OFF THE loving LAWN! It's all sticky grass below that white line.

If you nail it right, you won't have to let off the gas and you should come out of the corner inches from the wall. If you're a little high, or if your entry was off you may have to come of the throttle a bit, but be able to keep it about 85% or more. If you take a mid to high line you'll have to back off the throttle and you've just hosed yourself. Also, this is why the entry is so very important.

Do this right and essentially you'll take the last three corners at full throttle all the way to the finish. A good measure is that you should be in 5th or ready to shift into 5th as you go into the last corner. At least, this is what has worked for me, I've managed to beat most of my rivals in this section of track where I can't keep up as well in the rest of it.

Yeah, that's way faster than I can do that part. Nice work.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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I actually tied someone just now. Down to the thousandth (I lost... wtf).

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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speedtek posted:

He set it first!

Yeah, so I saved the replay, and this was the finish:



Ultra-WTF

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Day Man posted:

That's one hell of a finish.

Yeah, so tell me:

a) how that was a tie down to the thousandth (~135mph)
b) how I (in the Renault) LOST?!?

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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JingleBells posted:

I imagine after our next SAEG race which is E class racing there may be some decent cars - sadly that's not for 2 weeks :(


Yeah I enjoyed the bit I experienced on Saturday night, next time I'll try and not do it after spending all afternoon in the pub

I wanna get in on some of this action!

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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current points:
code:

Name	              Points        Penalty "weight"
TheCowboyJoe   	        70              -20% power
Boaz McPherson  	61              -20% 
Krautastic      	53              -15%
xander i crews  	47              -5%
vertigo 360     	41
whatcubed3      	37
speedt3k        	28
sapopeonarope   	25
kilonum         	23
aardmania       	19
dukket          	15
sac4eva         	10
deathgibs	         8
van330ci	         5
crow t macbot	         5
Xander made a huge jump up the board with that finish last week. Nice work!
1) thecowboyjoe
2) xander i crews
3) krautastic

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GOD IS BED posted:

Thanks man. I'll have a 10% power handicap next race, right?

Updated standings with penalty "weight". Thanks for the reminder.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Ringo Star Get posted:

Whoa whoa whoa we're still within the first year, when the patch is released in roughly 3 years then we'll complain.

At least our games aren't 3 years late...

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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I said come in! posted:

Yeah, it's pretty annoying, but I think I can let them pass this one time, considering its the only real major mistake they've ever made. Compared to other developers that make racing sims, Turn-10 is the only one that is consistent in their quality, and it's always really high quality.

Where's a kool-aid smilie when you need one.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Anyone up for some racing? Send me a request

GT TheCowboyJoe

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Anyone on here done the rivals challenge the ILLegitimate way? As in, holding up traffic for a whole lap and then doing your lap with a clean track?

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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O happy day (gospel choir backing: "O happy day"), I said a-happy day! ("O happy day") I said a-happy day ("O happy day")



Used to own one, always thought it was the #1 car missing from forza (except in wagon version... darn).

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Who's ready for some Spec Pinto?!


This car is super fun to drive, but very tricky to drive right. Tons of grip, but sloppy suspension and open diff means slow and steady through the corners is the fast line. Just like a beach in alabama body rolls is the norm here.



Everything listed is must haves, with aero and wheels being free choice within the rules listed

Firstly: Swap in the ford focus I4 motor

Engine and Power: Race Exhaust, Race Cams, Race Flywheel

Platform and Handling: Race Roll Cage, Race Weight reduction

Drivetrain: nothing

Tires and Rims: Race tire compound, 225/50R14 front and rear, wheels- stock size, allowed to choose from any of the following: american racing (all), cragar (smoothie, street lock D window, S/S super sport), compomotive (ML), halibrand (all), mickey thompson (classic lock)

Aero and Appearance: All stock and Ford upgrade parts allowed. Forza Street hood 2 (cowl style) allowed. No forza race aero and no Forza Street hood 1 (hood scoop style)

Built your car should be a B491-B493 depending on aero choices. Make sure to adjust your tire pressures for the long races, the tires heat up quite a bit.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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GoonSpec current standings (week 3):

code:

Name	Points
TheCowboyJoe   	        91
Boaz McPherson  	79
xander i crews  	61
Krautastic      	53
vertigo 360     	53
whatcubed3      	53
speedt3k        	38
sapopeonarope   	32
kilonum         	28
aardmania       	25
Force 7	                25
dukket          	15
van330ci	        13
sac4eva         	10
crow t macbot	        10
deathgibs	        8
Cubivore	        5
Kaddion	                5

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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captainOrbital posted:

AWESOME

Sorry to those that don't buy DLC's, but the last TBA race is DEFINITELY going to be BTCC...

Alfa Q4 (in FWD), E30M3, and 855 (FWD), along with??? Maybe one more.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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speedtek posted:

How about a late 80's/early 90's GroupA series? This includes DTM, BTCC, WTCC, etc. The cars you mentioned, plus the 190E, Sierra Cosworth, and whatever else was used that I can't think of off the top of my head.

I'll play around with the cars to see what I can do.

JingleBells posted:

Well, looks like this weekend I'll be making the vinyls to make this:


Please oh please can I have one???!?!?

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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captainOrbital posted:

We just got an 850 too.

Second car was an 850 turbo. I've been waiting for way too long to get this car in a game

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silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

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Jabs posted:


The more autocross courses I see from around the country, the more I realize how fortunate we are here in Denver/Colorado Springs. These are the sites we have available to us...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIQYD8eJ6c0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca2124n1-kQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HenjECbkD6A

Totally understand now why we don't use World Arena anymore after watching the third video.

Look at Qualcomm autocross and you won't feel so lucky anymore :(

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