Top American Sons of Guns Shots: TV so bad it can kill you.

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A FUCKIN CANARY!!: Nov 9, 2005

WouldDesk posted:

is close enough.

Does anybody have a link to when Will did his "I am Red Jacket" speech before firing the Maxim?

Give me a moment and I can trim and upload it.

Edit: POOF! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c868QTtOcfo

A FUCKIN CANARY!! fucked around with this message at Jan 7, 2012 around 02:53

# ? Jan 7, 2012 02:43

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# ? May 19, 2013 13:08

mischief: Jun 3, 2003; Fuck everything.

The real question is does he actually have any kind of Native American heritage or is it just another white guy with identity issues kind of thing?

That whole segment was awkward as all hell regardless.

# ? Jan 7, 2012 02:54

Craptacular: Jul 11, 2004; I have the 50th and Final Pony Av!

mischief posted:

That whole show is awkward as all hell regardless.

FTFY

Really the only "gun" show that's halfway ok is Top Shot and that's only if you fast forward through all the ~*~*~drama~*~*~ at the nomination range and at the house.

# ? Jan 7, 2012 03:22

mischief: Jun 3, 2003; Fuck everything.

Touche.

# ? Jan 7, 2012 03:35

front wing flexing: Sep 3, 2003

mischief posted:

The real question is does he actually have any kind of Native American heritage or is it just another white guy with identity issues kind of thing?

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# ? Jan 7, 2012 04:06

WouldDesk: Dec 26, 2009

A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:

Give me a moment and I can trim and upload it.

Edit: POOF! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c868QTtOcfo

Very nice

His "ma ha tua anw" or whatever the poo poo he says just makes me blush with embarrassment every time I hear it.

# ? Jan 7, 2012 04:12

Loomer: Dec 19, 2007; A Very Special Hell

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

They needed Bushman on that last episode.

Just give the entire show to Bushman, maybe keep Flem and whatsisname, the one who does most of the actual gunsmithing. Bushman makes gadgets already, so combine that with a gunsmith's workshop and his love of killing and you've got a hell of a show.

# ? Jan 7, 2012 05:10

Mad Dragon: Feb 29, 2004

mischief posted:

The real question is does he actually have any kind of Native American heritage or is it just another white guy with identity issues kind of thing?

I am 1/128 Native American, therefore

# ? Jan 7, 2012 05:58

Flikken: Oct 22, 2009; I say Old Chum, would you like to go 4 and 12 with me?

I didn't know a Maxim could make plywood explode like that...

"mischief' posted:

I am 1/128 Native American, therefore

1/8th Mohawk....... Supposedly

And I have no proof so I don't put anything silly like Native American down on any federal forms.

# ? Jan 7, 2012 10:26

handbandit: Nov 13, 2002

Is it bad that I can understand everything Will says just as clearly as a news anchor? I mean, I know my childhood was about as redneck as it gets, but I really had no idea it was that bad. You guys make it sound like he's speaking a foreign language.

# ? Jan 7, 2012 11:37

A FUCKIN CANARY!!: Nov 9, 2005

I think he has a George W. Bush type thing going on where he starts really exaggerating his accent when he's too conscious of being on camera. He shifts between speaking clearly and speaking impenetrable 'Merkin.

What has to happen to get YouTube's automatic captioning working? I can't see the results being anything but hilarious.

Ah, there it goes.

A FUCKIN CANARY!! fucked around with this message at Jan 7, 2012 around 11:59

# ? Jan 7, 2012 11:50

Inspector_71: Oct 7, 2003; ...essence

handbandit posted:

Is it bad that I can understand everything Will says just as clearly as a news anchor? I mean, I know my childhood was about as redneck as it gets, but I really had no idea it was that bad. You guys make it sound like he's speaking a foreign language.

I've never had a problem understanding him either, and I'm a drat northerner, so it's not like I'm used to that accent or anything.

I don't watch much of his show either, though, so...

# ? Jan 7, 2012 15:01

I like turtles: Aug 6, 2009; "Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

W ell...

Ultimately, blood quanta has little to nothing to do to with if someone is "indian" or not.
If you were raised around the tribe, know the traditions, care about the fate of the tribe, and are actively involved in it, and ESPECIALLY if you speak the language, then you're an Indian. The native folks I've talked to about this have expressed this as their opinion on the matter. Blood quanta was invented by white people. Most of the indians I've met give no fucks about it. You either are, or your aren't. You aren't 1/4, you aren't 1/64th.
Just having a "name" in whatever language doesn't mean poo poo about your "status as an indian" either. I have a name in Kobuk, an Inuit language, because I was working on a language project with a native speaker who thought I was cool and reminder her of a friend that died many years ago.

# ? Jan 7, 2012 17:27

powers: Jul 26, 2005

I get that they needed a gimmick gun, but a .458 Socom for hogs? :WTC:

Just get an AR-10. You can spend the same on a .308 MA-Ten, and walk around with 1/2 as much weight. They make better SP/expanding rounds for that. 180gr will destroy a hog. (my experience is with .30-06 primarily, but they are the same gr rounds)

# ? Jan 7, 2012 20:17

charliebravo77: Jun 11, 2003

powers posted:

I get that they needed a gimmick gun, but a .458 Socom for hogs? :WTC:

The show usually makes me scream at the television, but any excuse to build a 458 socom is a good excuse.

# ? Jan 7, 2012 21:54

WouldDesk: Dec 26, 2009

I like turtles posted:

Ultimately, blood quanta has little to nothing to do to with if someone is "indian" or not.

You either are, or your aren't. You aren't 1/4, you aren't 1/64th.

Tell that to people who give out scholarships. I assure you they do give fucks about how much Indian blood you have whether it is right or wrong it's wrong. Hell, living on Oklahoma my whole life this issue comes up all the time. I have had friends whose parents are both Indian but care nothing about the culture or their heritage, and some classmates who were deeply involved with a tribe but had less of a direct lineage and looked full on pasty Anglo. It is great hearing people argue over "who is more Indian" in person.

I understand Will most the time, but he changed his fake dialect so often it can be difficult. He is perfectly capable of speaking clearly, but he tends to mumble with his mouth closed when he "MEANS FUCKIN' BIDNESS"

# ? Jan 7, 2012 22:36

I like turtles: Aug 6, 2009; "Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

W ell...

WouldDesk posted:

Tell that to people who give out scholarships. I assure you they do give fucks about how much Indian blood you have whether it is right or wrong it's wrong. Hell, living on Oklahoma my whole life this issue comes up all the time. I have had friends whose parents are both Indian but care nothing about the culture or their heritage, and some classmates who were deeply involved with a tribe but had less of a direct lineage and looked full on pasty Anglo. It is great hearing people argue over "who is more Indian" in person.

Because of how the US federal government dealt with determining one's "status as an Indian", of course it's important for tribal membership and the benefits/responsibilities that entails. Though we both agree that it isn't a good measure of one's "indian-ness", nor one that is culturally relevant to most native communities, it's still what is used.

# ? Jan 8, 2012 00:07

Capn Beeb: Jun 29, 2003; Can it be fired with a massive erection?

A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:

Give me a moment and I can trim and upload it.

Edit: POOF! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c868QTtOcfo

# ? Jan 8, 2012 00:33

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; I am a closet nazi apologist.

I like turtles posted:

Because of how the US federal government dealt with determining one's "status as an Indian", of course it's important for tribal membership and the benefits/responsibilities that entails. Though we both agree that it isn't a good measure of one's "indian-ness", nor one that is culturally relevant to most native communities, it's still what is used.

Pft, all that's pretty easy to figure out.

Here, some other guys even put together a handy chart for figuring this stuff out on the fly. Hope this helps:

# ? Jan 8, 2012 03:37

I like turtles: Aug 6, 2009; "Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

W ell...

Hahah, holy poo poo

# ? Jan 8, 2012 06:33

thermobollocks: Jul 5, 2009; GET A DILLON

I can't read it -- it's all in Navajo or whatever.

# ? Jan 8, 2012 17:51

Humbug Scoolbus: Apr 25, 2008; Lord Fitzmoa
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The image hadn't even started loading yet and I just knew what was coming.

# ? Jan 8, 2012 20:27

WouldDesk: Dec 26, 2009

Welding in a plug to fix a hole in a mortar tube seems pretty Red Jacket to me.

# ? Jan 12, 2012 02:19

Professor Awesome: Jan 16, 2005; 'sup gordon

Wait so let me get this straight- Kris can't do something most of us have done in our basements (bolt together a working AR-15) so he bugs the only competent person to stop what he's doing and hold his hand, and the competent guy that produces working guns get punished while the retard gets to go shoot mortars?

# ? Jan 12, 2012 02:59

Mr. Clark2: Sep 17, 2003; Rocco sez: Oh man, what a bummer. Woof.

Here is what arfcom thinks of Sons of Guns (actual post from arfcom):
"I am a big fan of SOG mainly because they blow stuff up and show weapondry one doesn't see on a daily bases (unless your an armor, or have thousands upon thousands of dollars to screw around with).

Some of you will hate on that and make fun of the stupidity of making a high claiber AR as some sort of magic new thing. I like the fact that they show some of the options you have in your weapondry.

That was until tonight, now I know "reality" tv is still scripted or cut together and retooled to make a story line; however making Chris ""drop"" (yes i put two sets on because it was that obvious) the buffer and have Vince swop in 2 seconds later to "fix" the "problem" is pretty lame.

Still going to watch the show but really don't creat problems because you want to make compelling TV"

# ? Jan 12, 2012 03:18

powers: Jul 26, 2005

Professor Awesome posted:

Wait so let me get this straight- Kris can't do something most of us have done in our basements (bolt together a working AR-15) so he bugs the only competent person to stop what he's doing and hold his hand, and the competent guy that produces working guns get punished while the retard gets to go shoot mortars?

I have a feeling vince is going to motherfucking up and quit. Startups aren't for everyone. Especially when your loving boss is a retard idiot who has extremely unrealistic expectations. Innovation and hardwork is what sets most startups apart from existing companies. This guy is taking my CEO's "Challenging but not overwhelming" to whole new heights. He literally overwhelms his team.

# ? Jan 12, 2012 03:39

Mad Dragon: Feb 29, 2004

He did.

# ? Jan 12, 2012 03:48

Bigass Moth: Mar 6, 2004

The Nuge needs to kick this dweeb in the nuts.

# ? Jan 12, 2012 04:25

powers: Jul 26, 2005

Mad Dragon posted:

He did.

OH poo poo. Good, but he needs a toned down educated version of Will that wasn't in the military.

# ? Jan 12, 2012 05:53

Drav: Jul 23, 2002; Speed kills

What the gently caress is "weapondry?" Fffffff

# ? Jan 12, 2012 15:19

Force McCocken: Dec 9, 2004; Rational political thought and discourse is dead. Personally, I blame you.

I understand that this was a paycheck for the Nuge and so he acted accordingly, but watching him pretend that he didn't know he was surrounded by total morons was disappointing. C'mon Ted, you're better than this.

# ? Jan 12, 2012 15:21

LandRaider: Oct 11, 2005; I like motors, and boobs.

How many days until there is a Will VS Vince BUILD OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!

# ? Jan 12, 2012 15:22

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; I am a closet nazi apologist.

Force McCocken posted:

I understand that this was a paycheck for the Nuge and so he acted accordingly, but watching him pretend that he didn't know he was surrounded by total morons was disappointing. C'mon Ted, you're better than this.

No, he's really not.

# ? Jan 12, 2012 18:57

Force McCocken: Dec 9, 2004; Rational political thought and discourse is dead. Personally, I blame you.

Another thing...if I were just learning to play guitar (as Kris appears to be), there is no way in hell you could get me to film a scene of me playing (badly) for Ted Nugent. Hell, I've played for 30+ years, and if Nugent said "show me what you got", I'd just say no thanks, TV cameras or not.

# ? Jan 12, 2012 19:35

ThinkFear: Sep 14, 2007; igni ferroque

Mad Dragon posted:

He did.

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I suppose it's better than what you see on gunbroker.