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Txiuct
May 27, 2006

United States Federal Bureau of Investigation - "We don't give a shit, holmes."


I want George back on Top Shot so bad. Dude owns.

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Drav
Jul 23, 2002

Speed kills

Txiuct posted:

I want George back on Top Shot so bad. Dude owns.

George Reinas fanclub failboat starts here, brosefs. All aboard!

Diggie
Apr 6, 2008


MazeOfTzeentch posted:

If by Rat Fink guy you mean Caleb Giddings, I don't think he'd be interested, he made fun of top shot on his blog, Gun Nuts Media, every week. Course he might be, I am just talking out my rear end.

Yeah, the guy that kept calling everyone a rat fink until Kelly told him to grow the gently caress up.

I'm totally on the George fan-wagon.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

since we're talking
about primaries


Ohhh, that wasn't Caleb, he was the 'rat fink' according to the crazy guy.

Force McCocken
Dec 9, 2004
Rational political thought and discourse is dead. Personally, I blame you.

We've got a left-handed alligator hunter here who wants a custom rifle. I think a right-handed bolt action off the shelf with our logo engraved on it would be perfect.

Ooooh, perfect, this is just incredible. I can't believe what amazing work you do.

Action Jesus
Jun 18, 2002



Force McCocken posted:

We've got a left-handed alligator hunter here who wants a custom rifle. I think a right-handed bolt action off the shelf with our logo engraved on it would be perfect.

Ooooh, perfect, this is just incredible. I can't believe what amazing work you do.

Mossberg .223 bolt action rifle. Bedded, Trigger Job, scope mounted, and GATOR ENGRAVING.

$8,000.

Diplomaticus
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender


I lost it on American Guns at the episode where Paige didn't know how to field strip the 1911 she wears.

Action Jesus
Jun 18, 2002



Diplomaticus posted:

I lost it on American Guns at the episode where Paige didn't know how to field strip the 1911 she wears.

I was watching an episode of "Cajun Pawn Stars" on TV yesterday and they had a "situation" where a guy brought in a "box of gun parts" and needed help reassembling them. It was a 1911 and a Glock (I think 21, maybe 20) in their most basic of field strips, and everyone was scratching their heads trying to figure out what the christ is going on and it takes them several minutes to identify the two firearms in question before "moving on down to our firearm expert, he can help us out!"

I hate my TV.

11b1p
Feb 5, 2008

U SEE THIS BITCH WHO JUST GOT DUNSON'D?? THERE'S GONNA BE SOME FUCKIN DUNSON ROULETTE TONIGHT BITCHES.

Txiuct posted:

I want George back on Top Shot so bad. Dude owns.

I hated him on the show and I missed out on being able to get my picture taken with him at Ft Dix when his unit was out shooting

Loomer
Dec 19, 2007

A Very Special Hell

I'll remain adamant that a gun-show written by Cyrano and narrated by a smoking and drinking Brian Blessed, all done in one take so that he gets drunker as the show goes, would be a smash hit.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

Hope you don't mind if I just take a little rest here. Feel free to join me...

3 Gun Nation is a pretty cool gun show without the usual idiocy. And both seasons are available without commercial breaks online.

Although I guess the whole show is sort of a commercial for FNH, but that's what you get when they're the only major firearms company to step up and sponsor.

Season 2 also has an episode that profiles a teenage girl that's done pretty well for herself in competitions that had a lot of weird close-up shots of her looking just off-center of the camera while her dad stood behind her with a gun (even though he is never shown actually shooting or competing or anything) for transitions.

denereal visease
Nov 27, 2002

*denereal visease

Diplomaticus posted:

I lost it on American Guns at the episode where Paige didn't know how to field strip the 1911 she wears.

Action Jesus posted:

I was watching an episode of "Cajun Pawn Stars" on TV yesterday and they had a "situation" where a guy brought in a "box of gun parts" and needed help reassembling them. It was a 1911 and a Glock (I think 21, maybe 20) in their most basic of field strips, and everyone was scratching their heads trying to figure out what the christ is going on and it takes them several minutes to identify the two firearms in question before "moving on down to our firearm expert, he can help us out!"

I hate my TV.
I feel a lot better now about my own assembly faux pas. I'm glad to know that CPS was at least as loving dumb as I thought it would be.

Force McCocken
Dec 9, 2004
Rational political thought and discourse is dead. Personally, I blame you.

I know this is starting to sound repetitive, but here we again anyway.

$20,000 for a lever action Winchester knock-off.

Twenty loving thousand dollars. For $20,000 they milled exactly one part, slapped together off-the-shelf parts, and hosed up the stock so bad they had to cover it with an ugly-as-hell recoil pad. Oh, and engraved maybe 10% of the receiver instead of the mega awesome full scrollwork they promised.

I wonder if Rich realizes he's destroying his reputation instead of enhancing it.

hangedman
Dec 20, 2003

Fish out of water

OldSquid posted:

I'd be willing to bet Jake's not eligible (nor interested), however, Tara from season 1 deserves a second chance since she had to drop out for a family emergency.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I'd like to see Tara get another chance along with Chris Cerrino from season 1, who was an honest dude and actually performed more solidly than Iain for the majority of the time. Big Mike from season 3, too. I'd actually kind of like it if the past 4 winners weren't invited back: they've already won once, so give someone else a chance.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004



Force McCocken posted:

$20,000 for a lever action Winchester knock-off.
One grand for the gun. The rest for the TV exposure.

Operating Rod
Nov 12, 2007

This promotion couldn't have come at a better time.

Force McCocken posted:

I wonder if Rich realizes he's destroying his reputation instead of enhancing it.

I was with my in-laws over the winter or something and we saw the episode where they tart up a Ruger Mark III with an American flag for some ten-year-old bullshit league shooter.

So within like eight seconds of seeing a Mark III and hearing the kid's mother say they wanted it done special for targets I turned to my wife and said that this was a $75 parts-change at absolute best, so they're going to have to paint this kid's gun into something horrifically ugly and charge a fortune to make any money.

I felt really awful when it came true because how could you exploit a clueless soccer mom and sleep at night, but on the plus side I basically ruined the whole series for her whole family in one breath so I guess that's something.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



Force McCocken posted:

I wonder if Rich realizes he's destroying his reputation instead of enhancing it.

Your use of the word "enhancing" made me think of the Stearns-Graybill Effect. In other words, this guy thinks he's Cinderella when he's really more like Leon the Professional. In terms of how the story starts and ends, that is.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

I am a closet nazi apologist.


Operating Rod posted:

I was with my in-laws over the winter or something and we saw the episode where they tart up a Ruger Mark III with an American flag for some ten-year-old bullshit league shooter.

So within like eight seconds of seeing a Mark III and hearing the kid's mother say they wanted it done special for targets I turned to my wife and said that this was a $75 parts-change at absolute best, so they're going to have to paint this kid's gun into something horrifically ugly and charge a fortune to make any money.

I felt really awful when it came true because how could you exploit a clueless soccer mom and sleep at night, but on the plus side I basically ruined the whole series for her whole family in one breath so I guess that's something.

So how much did they charge her?

Operating Rod
Nov 12, 2007

This promotion couldn't have come at a better time.

I don't remember if they said TBH. I was more pissed that they did very little to improve the function gun that the kid and his father couldn't have done together on a weeknight after school when the mom asked the shop "to make it competition-ready" and threw in a paint job instead to make more money.

They didn't even give the kid a Volquartsen trigger and left on a pair of Ruger's hideous black grip panels on top of a retarded American flag paint job, it seriously looked like rear end.

Imgur is failing to upload a picture for some reason, if you search for "Young Patriot Pistol" it's on Youtube or whatever.

Action Jesus
Jun 18, 2002



I liked on last(?) week's episode, the M&P they sell to a guy for something like $1500, gets a custom zebra stripe paintjob.

The zebra stripes were horizontal

Diggie
Apr 6, 2008


I think there's a guy in the corner every time someone talks price with a "customer." His whole job is to throw out a bullshit number that sounds like a gun price to dumb viewers. At least that's what I have to believe so that I can still watch the show without enraging myself.

Saint Darwin
Jun 19, 2011

The cat problem in the park is Malthusian in scope.

Operating Rod posted:

I don't remember if they said TBH. I was more pissed that they did very little to improve the function gun that the kid and his father couldn't have done together on a weeknight after school when the mom asked the shop "to make it competition-ready" and threw in a paint job instead to make more money.

They didn't even give the kid a Volquartsen trigger and left on a pair of Ruger's hideous black grip panels on top of a retarded American flag paint job, it seriously looked like rear end.

Imgur is failing to upload a picture for some reason, if you search for "Young Patriot Pistol" it's on Youtube or whatever.

Oh god no



Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004




Signed by Oliver North.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



Anyone else watching Longmire on A&E?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO-ZrF2HJjY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6FDKVYBXB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpqwIEZ5NhE

DILLIGAF
Nov 16, 2003

I don't know, I find it hard to take hipster/non-hipster advice from someone with a Brony avatar!


Caught the first episode, not sure how hosed up it is going to be yet.

I was interested enough that I got the Longmire books that inspired the series to see how bad it will be.

Quickshanks
Oct 3, 2011

So damned good.

I watched the first episode of Longmire and it seemed pretty average. Gun content wise... Longmire brings spent shell to a gun expert who tells him it's a .45-70, which is extremely rare and was only ever used a century ago in the Sharps sniper rifle. Later Longmire finds a suspect with a Sharps rifle but says it is clearly too dirty and rusty to be the murder weapon and demonstrates this by loading it and pulling the trigger to prove it won't fire.

right arm
Oct 29, 2011



My roommate unfortunately watches this, it is a poo poo show.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



I am an episode or so behind on American Guns. The little kid was a trip. Seeing him at the end in slow motion with 6 shells in the air (only inches apart) on a lever action was pretty cool.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003



How the hell can a shorter barrel develop more velocity?

A paradox of propellant burn exhaustion and barrel length beyond optimum?

I mean if any caliber could have that problem I would imagine a big heavy slow round with a lot of meat on the rifling (like 45 ACP) would be a candidate for this paradox.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

I am a closet nazi apologist.


B4Ctom1 posted:

How the hell can a shorter barrel develop more velocity?

A paradox of propellant burn exhaustion and barrel length beyond optimum?

I mean if any caliber could have that problem I would imagine a big heavy slow round with a lot of meat on the rifling (like 45 ACP) would be a candidate for this paradox.

Bolded the important part.

From what I understand it's a serious thing for .22LR shooters, and is the reason you don't see .22LR barrels that are really, really long.

Nubcakes
Jan 11, 2009

If it isn't broken...
Take it apart and improve it!


B4Ctom1 posted:

How the hell can a shorter barrel develop more velocity?


When and only when the drag caused by the barrel is is greater than acceleration caused by the gas from the powder. You would have to take a look at the derivative to the acceleration(The Jerk or change in acceleration) and the barrel length. Theoretically there is a barrel length for a given load and bullet that will give the absolute maximum velocity possible. However, once the barrel length goes over that length, it starts slowing down the bullet. I am not sure how the velocity curve would look in relation to the barrel length though.

Eating the Pudding
Apr 28, 2009



The best part of american guns is watching the awkward gunsmiths actively try not to just stare at Paige's boobs or make eye contact when she comes down into their nerd lair.

TheChaplain
Apr 22, 2002

God is just the start of your problems, neh?

I'm watching Pawn Stars and Ric just pulled a cocked and locked 1911 out from behind his back and slid it inside a fake book...

I mean, I suppose as long as it was never pointed at anyone, that's not a terrible idea. Still, I hope he pulled the mag and cleared the chamber off camera. It just seems like that sort of goof can withstand some extra caution.

Saint Darwin
Jun 19, 2011

The cat problem in the park is Malthusian in scope.

TheChaplain posted:

I'm watching Pawn Stars and Ric just pulled a cocked and locked 1911 out from behind his back and slid it inside a fake book...

I mean, I suppose as long as it was never pointed at anyone, that's not a terrible idea. Still, I hope he pulled the mag and cleared the chamber off camera. It just seems like that sort of goof can withstand some extra caution.

Forgive my newbness, but isn't that Condition 1 and just fine for 1911's? Or is the internet LYING again?

SFH1989
Apr 23, 2007



There's nothing wrong with carrying a 1911 condition one, it's the smartest way to carry one. It sounds like he pulled his loaded carry gun in his (probably crowded) pawn shop to test out a hollow book, which isn't so smart.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd


Quickshanks posted:

I watched the first episode of Longmire and it seemed pretty average. Gun content wise... Longmire brings spent shell to a gun expert who tells him it's a .45-70, which is extremely rare and was only ever used a century ago in the Sharps sniper rifle. Later Longmire finds a suspect with a Sharps rifle but says it is clearly too dirty and rusty to be the murder weapon and demonstrates this by loading it and pulling the trigger to prove it won't fire.

right arm posted:

My roommate unfortunately watches this, it is a poo poo show.

Goddamn, y'all are some haters. It's nothing spectacular but I wouldn't describe it as anywhere close to "poo poo." And to be fair there's quite a bit more to both of the discussions...for starters he says that the fact that the gun is dirty and rusty is because black powder fouling is corrosive, which is something well beyond the average you'll see about guns on TV.

iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at Jun 26, 2012 around 03:19

TheChaplain
Apr 22, 2002

God is just the start of your problems, neh?

SFH1989 posted:

There's nothing wrong with carrying a 1911 condition one, it's the smartest way to carry one. It sounds like he pulled his loaded carry gun in his (probably crowded) pawn shop to test out a hollow book, which isn't so smart.
Yeah, the whole scene sort of made me shift uncomfortably. I know you own the place, but pulling your piece anywhere AND not making a "Don't be alarmed!" announcement...

I know a lot of the antics on that show are (terribly) scripted, but I still end up watching it for hours at a time.

Force McCocken
Dec 9, 2004
Rational political thought and discourse is dead. Personally, I blame you.

' What I really want for the CROWN JEWEL OF MY COLLECTION is an authentic Civil War era double barreled cannon.'

' Okay, stainless barrels painted bronze and an electronic ignition oughta do the trick.'

' Perfect!'

5er
Jun 1, 2000



Let me put in some post production embellishments-

Force McCocken posted:

** Cock-rock / almost nu metal guitar riffing ***
' What I really want for the CROWN JEWEL OF MY COLLECTION is an authentic Civil War era double barreled cannon.'
** More cock-rock / almost nu metal guitar riffing ***
' Okay, stainless barrels painted bronze and an electronic ignition oughta do the trick.'
** Pause for drama as customer and gunsmith/broker stare into eachother's eyes in a purely heterosexual, macho bro-moment ***
' Perfect!'

** Cock-rock / almost nu metal guitar power chord is wailed now as show cuts to station break ***

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Quickshanks
Oct 3, 2011

So damned good.

iyaayas01 posted:

Goddamn, y'all are some haters. It's nothing spectacular but I wouldn't describe it as anywhere close to "poo poo." And to be fair there's quite a bit more to both of the discussions...for starters he says that the fact that the gun is dirty and rusty is because black powder fouling is corrosive, which is something well beyond the average you'll see about guns on TV.
I only said it was average, which is a perfectly fair statement. I'd actually say it has an edge on some of the truly mediocre shows like NCIS or any of the USA shows. I enjoyed the episode with the marijuana growers quite a bit.

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