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Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Uhh,.. so, this came in the mail today:



I look forward to putting it on a shelf and forgetting about it forever.

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Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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I had considered getting one of those when I bought my Nightster but it's just.. unclassifiable. It's like some kind of creature that's too weird to live but too rare to die.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Moving off of awesome vintage Sportsters for a moment, how often should I do the clutch adjustment on my 2011 Nighster? Should I just follow the maintenance interval like the book suggests?

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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They look so weird in pictures but they're so awesome in person.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Giblet Plus! posted:

Does anyone live in chicago? There's a guy who lives on belmont street and has an all chrome v-rod. the only non chrome is the tires. it must have taken a fortune. I'm not sure what he does, because I only see the bike out after midnight and in the early morning. living after midnight and all that.

Well it's not exactly like he can ride it on the highway in the middle of a sunny day. It would be like the sun coming straight for you.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Gay Nudist Dad posted:

I learned immediately that I hate forward controls.

What do you hate about the forward controls? I've been debating putting them on my Nightster because the mids feel a bit cramped at times, but I'm worried that it'll affect my control of the bike.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Scrapez posted:

To me, mids with highway pegs are the best setup. Mids are better for cornering and in heavy stop and go traffic. Highway pegs are good for just that.

On a sportster, the more positions you have at your disposal the better if you are on a long ride.

Any options for fitting black highway pegs on a sporty without crash bars other than buying these and having them powder coated?

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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All these posts about the 48 make me really glad I didn't buy a 48.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Dear CAHOG,

I recently replaced the stock pipes on my 2011 Nightster with Vance & Hines Short Shots (like everyone else in the world - see below), and now I'm afraid my bike might be too loud. It might just be because I'm so used to it being quiet. It looks and performs much better, but going through my neighborhood I feel a bit like an rear end in a top hat.



Please advise.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Schlieren posted:

That being expressed, I'm surprised that your bike performs better, unless you at least did Stage 1 type stuff to it as well. Those shorties rob backpressure

Honestly it probably doesn't perform better, I was likely just more excited about twisting the noise maker.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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I actually have an idiot question.

When I was bolting on the new pipes, I dropped one of the nuts and couldn't find it. Running the bike, it sounds like there's a rattle coming from the engine area, but I haven't been able to get anything out of it using a magnet. Is there any way that nut could wind up inside the crank case? Looking at the service manual, it doesn't really appear to have a way 'in' that would allow that nut to ruin something, but I'm not really sure where to begin to diagnose that rattle to put my mind at ease.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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No, this was after the pipes were into the exhaust port with one nut bolting the flange onto the cylinder head. But no, I didn't open anything that had oil in it. I mentioned it to the guy at the dealership when I went to go buy some special HD-branded nuts, and he said "well hopefully you didn't drop it into the crank case!" which made me feel like my bike might explode if I ride it.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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^^ That's what I intend to do. I've got to take everything off to ensure that it's all sufficiently loctite-ed anyway, and I mean to replace the aluminum exhaust gaskets, so if something's loose I'll surely uncover that along the way.

Thanks for your help guys.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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My bike has started doing weird poo poo. When I get on the throttle from a stop in first gear, I'll accelerate, then the engine will hesitate, and then I'll get a giant burst of power. I noticed in a GoPro video that it almost sounded like it was starved, but I didn't feel any real issues until lately. It happens around a half a tank of gas, then goes away when I fill the tank.

It's a 2011 HD Nightster with about 3500 miles on it. I've had it for a year.

Any ideas? O2 sensor? poo poo in the fuel tank? Wrong octane gas?

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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I'd gently caress that bike.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Anyone downloaded a remap onto their bike? Mine runs like poo poo after doing the exhaust, and until I do some more extensive work, I'm not going to make the effort to have it actually tuned on a dyno. The dealership and a few online forums suggested that a pre-set fuel mapping can be applied to the ECM.

How can I just go about doing that? Is there an application? Special cable? What/where is the interface on the bike?

And would anyone recommend something different? I've got a stock 2011 Nightster 1200 with V&H short shots and quiet baffles that's running lean.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Schlieren posted:

This can only be done at the Harley dealer because they are the only ones with the proprietary equipment required to do it. It's like $350 or something ridiculously exorbitant and is one of the reasons I vowed never, ever to have any repair work done at a dealership ever.

Fortunately mine is only charging $180, but that's still a lot for something that basically just requires a laptop and an executable.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Akion posted:

Oh god I just bought a Sportster what have I done?



Good choice.

I have an XL1200 too and it's awesome.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Akion posted:

How do you like that exhaust? Is it obnoxiously loud? I *hate* the stock Chrome pipes on the Iron.

They're not loud at all, honestly the wind is probably louder. I'd heard that you can increase the performance by installing the quiet baffles, but they made it much, much worse.

This is with my GoPro. Skip to like 1:15 into the video. I hadn't really considered this for public consumption so there's a bunch of dumb poo poo in the beginning. All in all it's not very interesting. I just made it to test my new camera and the pipes just after I'd put them on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orFA565KUig


I've heard the 2 in 1s are the best performance, but I just can't get over the way they look. Not my thing.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Marv Hushman posted:

You are standing on the shoulders of giants, and will succeed in your quest. Welcome to the Sporty Goon Squad.

Though we are small, we are nimble.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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malal posted:

That's kinda my thing, bad ideas on two wheels. Here's my current bike.







It's not that fast and handles like putting a saddle on a pig. I imagine my ironhead will handle even worse!

Holy poo poo. Talk about unexpected. Are you Mad Max?

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Scrapez posted:

Also, since this bike is purple, I guess I went from a girl's bike to another girl's bike. :)

Nonsense, purple is the color of kings.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Honestly I try to avoid the dealership unless it's a part only they can order or it's a warranty issue or something.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Speaking of tuners, make sure if you buy a tuner from the dealer, you get the right one. There are two HD branded tuners with almost identical names. There's the Screaming Eagle Street Tuner, and the Screaming Eagle Super Tuner Pro. What's the difference? Well, about $200, and the ability to actually tune your bike. The pro one allows you to put a custom tune on a bike and street dyno it. The regular tuner just lets you put the Stage 1, Stage 2, etc mapping on the bike, which is essentially useless if you're trying to work out a weak area.

The part number for the SEST:P is 32109-08C. It's a pain in the rear end, because you also have to buy a cable pack for the weird peripheral port on the bike, and that doesn't come with the tuner. That's 32184-08A.

And of course, the tuners are married to your VIN. So once you bond it with your bike, you can't use it tune a buddy's bike. But the thing is awesome. It's a lot of fun to find out where you have a weak AFR and adjust that and remap it to the bike.

Strife fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Feb 23, 2015

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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DJCobol posted:

I've been wanting to get rid of my Triumph for a while now, and when I saw this beauty at the local Harley dealer, I had to have it.




2011 V-Rod Night Rod Special in matte black w/ orange accents. The only things that it has done to it is a different rear fender (it has the V-rod muscle rear fender w/ integrated brake light and turn signals) and a Vance & Hines Competition 2 into 1 exhaust and a Vance & Hines FuelPak. I plan on getting the exhaust ceramic coated because that poo poo is HOT in traffic and I lightly toasted the heel of my right boot. I also want to get a quieter baffle because its loud as gently caress and a little droney at highway speeds.

The lady at the dealer didn't get it when I asked if I could apply for a personalized plate instead of a standard one, and put "LYRDN" on the application.

Is it comfortable? I've always coveted the Nightrod but I heard it wasn't the smoothest ride.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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The most uncomfortable parts of a sporty are the stock seat and the mid controls. Put on forwards once you learn to ride, and swap out the seat. The stock one has a stiff upswing part in the testicular area that could be problematic for a taller person.

I took the rider's course and immediately bought my bike right after I got my license. It was stupid, because I dropped it on the third day and bent the shift lever and scraped up the clutch, but far be it for me to tell you not to do the exact thing I did. I bent the shift lever back out, and I keep the scraped clutch on as a reminder.

Sportsters are also a good "beginner" bike in that every part of the bike is incredibly accessible and they're easy to maintain. Figure out how to change the oil and the light bulbs and you're good for a while.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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I finally got around to replacing the terrible stock seat on my bike with the Mustang Solo (or whatever the hell they're calling it now.)



It's a lot more comfortable, but the ride height is different, which will take some getting used to.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Quite a while ago, I changed out the exhaust on my bike for aesthetic reasons. That led to a drop in power and some odd performance issues where the bike would choke out at the top of first gear. So I bought a Screaming Eagle Super Tuner Pro and threw a Stage 1 tune on the bike. That improved things, but the engine was then starved for air, and I never got around to properly street tuning it.

I just bought and installed a Kuryakyn Mach 2 after reading some reviews online. It's not so large that I can't reach the brake, but it's large enough to take in enough air for the tune I had previously applied.

The performance is better and it's real pretty.



I don't know what to change now.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Lately I've been having serious thoughts about trading in the Nightster that I love so much and have put so many parts into for a Night Rod Special.

I just don't know what to do. :negative:

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Scrapez posted:

Personally, I'd put a 1250 kit, big cams, ported heads and a good 2:1 exhaust on the nightster if you have it looking like you want.

100+ rwhp on the nightster well be fun. I'm not a huge fan of vrods though.

Doing a 1250 kit, that's an interesting idea. Is that something I can do entirely in my garage? I'm a reasonably competent mechanic, but once I get to drilling through metal I get a bit cautious.

A 2:1 is probably also a good idea. Any recommendations? I currently have the V&H Short Shots, because it's a XL1200N, and having those is the law.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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builds character posted:

What about a SENA?

I have a SENA. It's the cat's tits. I use the SMH10R and it's surprising how well you can hear music and participate in calls while ripping up the highway.

Personally if I wanted speakers and a dashboard I'd just drive my car.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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The Bananana posted:

I still want a Night Rod Special.

Same.

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Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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That is an excellent color scheme. Looks boss.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Yesterday I traded in my 2011 Nightster for a 2018 Sport Glide.



The comfort level of the Nightster could be considered "cruel and unusual" where with the Sport Glide I was not even aware of potholes or manhole covers. Also it has cruise control, which is something I've wanted in a motorcycle since I finished the basic rider's course.

The problem is that this is apparently such a new model that there's little in the way of aftermarket exhaust for the thing. V&H makes Short Shots for the FLSB, but I'm concerned that the exhaust being right under the rear bags would be an issue. I've never had bags before. There's also a performance thing. They were weird when I put them on my Nightster until I tuned it, and HD apparently won't sell the super tuners anymore.

Or I could just wait until V&H releases the 2-1 in late June, which just means I have to sound like a Jetson's car for a few months.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Nerdrock posted:

Congrats! Of course HD won't sell you the tuner. That way they can sell you their tuning services! At least that's what my local shop does.

I've never tuned a bike outside of my garage. Will the dealership give me a hard time about parts they didn't put on? I'm afraid they'll just tell me to beat it, and also tell me I've voided my warranty.

Also, any tips on getting your wife on the back? Mine is terrified of motorcycles.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Slavvy posted:

Strife how do you think the Milwaukee engine compares to the old twin cam?

Hard to say. I've only been on the Sport Glide for about 50 miles (just got it Sunday afternoon), but it's got more pickup than the evo had, which makes sense given the difference in displacement. I'm curious how it handles the whole oil cooling cylinder shutoff in high heat thing, so summer will be the real test.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Strife posted:

Hard to say. I've only been on the Sport Glide for about 50 miles (just got it Sunday afternoon), but it's got more pickup than the evo had, which makes sense given the difference in displacement. I'm curious how it handles the whole oil cooling cylinder shutoff in high heat thing, so summer will be the real test.

Alright, I'm about 1500 more miles into the bike, so let me tell you about the 2018(.5) Harley Sport Glide.


Pictured naked, because the front fairing and bags come off in about 30 seconds.

I should mention that almost all of my riding experience is with a 2011 Sportster, so its mostly in comparison to that.

The ride is very comfortable. Initially when I test rode it, I was very surprised that going over bumps didn't hurt nearly as bad as they did on my Sportster. I guess I could have remedied that with better shocks, but it's nice to be able to adjust the suspension of a bike on the fly. I'm around 200lbs, so I've got it set to about 0, and it's great. The other surprise was how well it handles. It's not a sport bike by any means, but I basically grew up hearing that I'll never ride a HD bike that's as nimble as the Sportster. The center of gravity on the bike is very low, which makes it just as agile. I've scraped the pegs a few times, and it feels like the same clearance as the Sporty.

In terms of features, the bike has all the same accouterments as the rest of the Softail lineup. Digital gauges (miles to empty?? what??), cruise control, ABS (only one front disk), and that hand-adjustable suspension. It also has a slightly larger oil tank to accommodate the oil-cooling system in the new M8 motors.

Negatives? Well, the front fairing is kind of stupid. They say that it decreases the wind on your chest, but it's really more like decreasing the wind on your crotch. I'm 5'9, and I feel just as much wind, but the bike is definitely a little less exhausting at 80MPH. Also, the performance of bikes coming out of the factory is pretty poor. Nobody buys HD motorcycles expecting to win races, but with the EPA regulations choking the bikes out of the gate, you'll need some air/exhaust and fuel management to get it up to what you're probably used to. Unfortunately there's almost no aftermarket yet since it's a mid-year model. There's some Bassani pipes, but the V&H stuff is mostly delayed until August at this point. I emailed V&H for an updated ETA and haven't gotten a response yet.

The biggest negative is probably the price, $18.5. The dealership gave me 5k for my Sportster, and this bike had literally everything I wanted, so it made sense to me. I expect to probably see a lot of them on the road in the next few years, I guess as long as Harley doesn't go out of business.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Digital_Jesus posted:

Didn't HD stop offering tunes for their poo poo because they payed some ridiculous EPA violation fine a while back?

Fake Edit: Yup https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/harley-davidson-clean-air-act-settlement

Yeah, and they had to stop selling the pro tuner, evidently because they only serve to increase air pollution. I bought a V&H FP3, which does the same thing as the pro tuner, albeit a bit more efficiently.

Strife fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Jul 7, 2018

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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The Bananana posted:

Question:

Any reason I should keep going to my harley dealer for regular maintenance, who charged me 200 bux last 2 times,

Vs going to a local motorcycle garage and having them do an oil change for 50 bux?

I know option 3 is do it yourself, but let's pretend I dont have the tools time or knowledge to do that.

Only if you give a poo poo about showing that you adhered to regular maintenance. The first service is probably important, especially on the new motors, but there's nothing that someone else can't accomplish with a service manual and a torque wrench.

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Strife
Apr 20, 2001

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Fuckin' Harley Davidson, man.

My wife has never ridden on the back of a motorcycle, but she said she'd like to now that I own a bike with a rear seat. But because she's never done it, she wanted me to get a sissy bar. Fine, no problem. I ordered one for the Sport Glide thinking that it would just clip onto the screws that hold the bags in place. My brother has a 2008 Road Glide, and the backrest has recesses for bolts close to where they are on my bike, but not quite. I figured I just needed to get one for my bike.

Nope.

It turns out that, yes, while the backrest goes exactly where those bolts are, the stock spacers are wrong.



My finger is holding up the stock one, and the new ones with the grooves for the backrest are installed. The longer part is the screw that the bag hooks onto.

What the gently caress? There's absolutely zero reason why they wouldn't just sell the bike with those spacers that would let you put the backrest on. I get not making changes that would alter the aesthetic of the bike, better to let the customer do that. Sure. But this changes nothing visually, it just forces people to pay an extra $50 on top of the cost for the backrest. And the cushion.

Hate the company, love the bikes, as they say. Gotta make up for lost revenue somewhere I guess.

It's pretty subtle once installed though.

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