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To be honest, I had hoped they would have done a couple of episodes or devoted part of the season to just roaming around with winter coming ala Miles Behind Us. All we got was getting stuck in a parking lot of a highway and now three episodes of a missing girl and stretched out Carl gun shot. It's pretty accurate to the comics in that there's long stretches of nothing happening. The only difference there is when the comic chooses that path it only waste a couple of minutes of my time from the story. When it happens on screen, it's a waste of an hour.
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| # ? Nov 9, 2011 12:04 |
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Since the first season ended I have been waiting and excited about seeing Lori getting blown away. To be honest though, they still pull so many punches on keeping characters alive I'm nervous they won't have the heart to off her and the reception to Lori and the child dying...
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| # ? Nov 9, 2011 12:55 |
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Thomase posted:Since the first season ended I have been waiting and excited about seeing Lori getting blown away. To be honest though, they still pull so many punches on keeping characters alive I'm nervous they won't have the heart to off her and the reception to Lori and the child dying... I'm positive they won't.
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| # ? Nov 9, 2011 14:13 |
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I hope they do keep it, Kirkman's willingness to do that kind of thing is the main strength of the comic (even if it does get old the fifth or sixth time it happens). Plus, although I never really minded Lori in the comic she seems like a real drag on the show. I liked the comic okay up until the stuff after the end of the prison arc, it's been very weird and meandering since then and it just seems like Kirkman has no resolution planned. But that said the comic is 100% full of stuff even stupider than the well zombie scene - there's that one part after they get in prison where I swear someone dies every issue for about four issues, all doing a bunch of stupid bullshit that they don't even have to do. Oh yeah, and the art is really embarrassingly bad.
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| # ? Nov 9, 2011 14:21 |
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That Rough Beast posted:I hope they do keep it, Kirkman's willingness to do that kind of thing is the main strength of the comic (even if it does get old the fifth or sixth time it happens). Plus, although I never really minded Lori in the comic she seems like a real drag on the show. Except for Carol who survives suicide, and Tyrese who survives the gym. But yeah, all 4 prisoners die, Herschel and 5 or 6 of his kids (all but Maggie) and a few red shirts, and those 2 kids that were beheaded, and Lori and the baby. Oh, and then Tyrese. Again. The prison arc really just mowed down the worthless cast. Rick, Andrea and Glenn are the only people worth a drat since early on. And now we've explored every way in which they can fall apart, all we have left is Abraham for a character of intrigue. I really wanna see the cannibal/church arc just for "tainted meat! TAINTED MEAT!!"
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| # ? Nov 9, 2011 14:35 |
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That Rough Beast posted:I liked the comic okay up until the stuff after the end of the prison arc, it's been very weird and meandering since then and it just seems like Kirkman has no resolution planned. I think Kirkman himself has said this is the case, except he seems to think it's a good thing rather than one of the biggest problems of the series. And since he's also ruled out stuff like finding a safe zone, or a cure, or the zombies eventually dying off, the series really doesn't have anything left other than to keep retreading things it's already done.
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| # ? Nov 9, 2011 19:30 |
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So from a spoiler pic, it looks like Glenn finds the zombie barn, except they decided to have him discover zombie barn from a safe spot. The problem with that is how are the zombies going to end up getting people killed, which is what prompts the Doc to realize how naive he was? Unless they find a way for people to get hurt after they know there's a barn full of zombies, which no matter how I think about it, would require them to do some pretty stupid things. I can imagine the plot will be Glenn "There's a barn full of zombies that I found. What the hell?!" Rick "Well, since they're not harming anybody yet, we better go into the barn full of zombies because x" *for some reason nobody stops them and people die* Rick "Doc, this is all your fault!"
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| # ? Nov 11, 2011 13:47 |
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Sounds about right for show logic.
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| # ? Nov 11, 2011 14:10 |
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We're long overdue for a main character death, I'm still hoping zombie barn kills someone who's been on the show for a while. Maybe Carol or whatever her name is then her daughter can be found.
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| # ? Nov 12, 2011 02:49 |
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Just saw on the TWD Facebook feed that Aisha Tyler is going to be in tomorrow's episode. Michonne? EDIT: gently caress nevermind, it said she'll be on The Talking Dead. Fuckers!
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| # ? Nov 12, 2011 22:38 |
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wormil posted:We're long overdue for a main character death, I'm still hoping zombie barn kills someone who's been on the show for a while. Maybe Carol or whatever her name is then her daughter can be found. The daughter is already in the barn.... Mother QQs for 20 mins straight show time while everyone blames each other, she rushes over to open the doors like an idiot.
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| # ? Nov 12, 2011 23:48 |
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I hope Sophia isn't dead, she's gets kind of creepy/more interesting in the comic acting like Maggie is her real mom.
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| # ? Nov 13, 2011 20:33 |
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Bets on who will get killed once the zombie barn opens for business? I'm saying Carol, Sophia (who will have been just re-discovered, completely negating the 6-episode search), Hershel's daughter (the blonde, not Maggie), the 17 year old who lied to Rick, and maybe T-Dogg.
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| # ? Nov 14, 2011 04:04 |
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Chairman Capone posted:I think Kirkman himself has said this is the case, except he seems to think it's a good thing rather than one of the biggest problems of the series. And since he's also ruled out stuff like finding a safe zone, or a cure, or the zombies eventually dying off, the series really doesn't have anything left other than to keep retreading things it's already done. Yeah, I stopped reading around issue 50 or so because of this. It is especially annoying as during the prison arc there was a huge amount of "zombies popping out from nowhere" in it in order to kill random characters. The series is doing a better job than the comics at actually making characters identifiable, I can't say many of them made an impression besides Rick, Glenn, Maggie, Andrea and Michonne. Everybody else just fades off into a series of "that guy who got killed by the governor."
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| # ? Nov 14, 2011 04:16 |
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Anyone notice how Andrea put basically the exact same scar into Daryl's head that she gets while sniping at the prison?
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| # ? Nov 14, 2011 04:50 |
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Cool so I was right. There's literally no reason for them to go into the zombie barn at all, they're just going to do it because. Looking forward to some stupid rear end reason that Rick gives. Even if they just want to kill the zombies for safety, Glenn clearly showed that you can simply stand above them and have clear shots all day long. How the gently caress is somebody going to get killed? Whatever, I'm just ranting at this stage 
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| # ? Nov 14, 2011 05:12 |
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This show is seriously saying gently caress all to any characterization these characters had in the comic. Shane (who's still alive) is essentially a carbon copy of Rick later in the story. Daryl is now Andrea the badass and Glenn the scout combined. Rick hasn't shown any sign of slowly losing his humanity. And they're moving through the story so loving slow. Any slower and this show becomes a god drat PowerPoint presentation.
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| # ? Nov 14, 2011 12:55 |
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They'll probably just break out "just because."
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| # ? Nov 14, 2011 13:04 |
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:This show is seriously saying gently caress all to any characterization these characters had in the comic. Shane (who's still alive) is essentially a carbon copy of Rick later in the story. Daryl is now Andrea the badass and Glenn the scout combined. Rick hasn't shown any sign of slowly losing his humanity. Tell me about it, their time at the farm was..what, two, maybe three issues? That is not four hours worth of television.
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| # ? Nov 14, 2011 16:41 |
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Mowglis Haircut posted:Tell me about it, their time at the farm was..what, two, maybe three issues? That is not four hours worth of television. Sounds about right. It was pretty much "get your poo poo together and leave". Then zombie barn and they hightailed it.
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| # ? Nov 14, 2011 16:55 |
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Beck posted:Cool so I was right. There's literally no reason for them to go into the zombie barn at all, they're just going to do it because. Looking forward to some stupid rear end reason that Rick gives. Even if they just want to kill the zombies for safety, Glenn clearly showed that you can simply stand above them and have clear shots all day long. How the gently caress is somebody going to get killed? Whatever, I'm just ranting at this stage Didn't zombie barn in the comic become a problem because they were trying to herd a new arrival into there and poo poo got hosed up? I agree though, they've spent way to much drat time spinning their wheels in this place.
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| # ? Nov 14, 2011 23:27 |
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Yeah it became a problem because they couldn't handle the zombies inside the barn while they were trying to put the new ones in there. iirc one of Hershel's kids got bitten and then things just snowballed from there.
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| # ? Nov 15, 2011 00:23 |
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0 rows returned posted:Yeah it became a problem because they couldn't handle the zombies inside the barn while they were trying to put the new ones in there. iirc one of Hershel's kids got bitten and then things just snowballed from there. Hopefully this happens again because it will just be one more way Rick and crew have ruined this poor old man's life. Stole his horse, hosed his daughter, put his ward in danger, killed Otis, used all the hot water (SHANE!  )
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| # ? Nov 15, 2011 00:42 |
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Goddamn Andrea in the show makes me mad. It's not just that she makes these awful decisions, it's that I know that buried underneath everything is my favorite character in the comic. Why the hell are the writers doing this to her? I understand that they might want to show her getting more comfortable with a gun, but is accidentally shooting the most capable dude in the camp the way to go about it? Even if he was a walker, it'd be a stupid drat choice. Waste of ammo, loud noise, Hershel doesn't want them using guns anyway, and there are already three people with hatchets running at the thing. It's not like it's a real threat, she just wanted an excuse to pop off a shot. And what now? Is she going to get all gun shy again? Will anyone even really notice or mention what a good shot it was? The thing is, her doing this makes it even harder to justify her having gun access, and I can't see how she would want to learn how to shoot better now. After all, if she was any more accurate Darryl would be straight up dead. So much wasted time on the show. If they wanted to show that she's a good shot, they've had like three episodes that could easily have had an 'Andrea and Shane shoot cans' scene. Hell, maybe her and Darryl: I assumed that's what the scene with them wandering around in the woods at night would head towards instead of her making him waste an arrow. This show is frustrating.
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| # ? Nov 15, 2011 17:23 |
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Edit: Oops, wrong thread.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:And they're moving through the story so loving slow. Any slower and this show becomes a god drat PowerPoint presentation. This is what is getting me the most about the show. I mean, given that I have been a reader of the monthly book since issue one was released, I should be familiar with such a slow story telling aspect to it. But hell, this is even making the comic book look like it moves at a faster pace. We should have been done with this Sophia search three episodes ago.
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 09:54 |
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Jack Skeleton posted:This is what is getting me the most about the show. I mean, given that I have been a reader of the monthly book since issue one was released, I should be familiar with such a slow story telling aspect to it. But hell, this is even making the comic book look like it moves at a faster pace. Maybe we'll finally get a glimpse of the prison in the preview of season 6! Also, holy gently caress how has the other thread not been gassed yet? It's been hovering around a 2.3 so there must be people deliberately rating it highly just to loving bitch and moan to each other some more.
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 16:05 |
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The other thread isn't being rated because of the content of the thread, it's a lot of people rating based on how bad the show is, and isn't a universal "rate 1" thread. The thread is fine at this point because everyone is basically on the same page as to how bad the show sucks. It's when people can't agree that you get the horrible threads.
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 16:08 |
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I like the show and am afraid to post it anywhere for fear of being told I don't know what I am talking about.
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 16:08 |
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Wouldn't that be the third time that thread was gassed? What is wrong with them? I thought Game of Thrones threads were terrible. 
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 16:11 |
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Mooseontheloose posted:I like the show and am afraid to post it anywhere for fear of being told I don't know what I am talking about. To put it simply, goons are nerds that are hard to please. I'm the same way. I watch this show and talk about it with friends and parents, and they're all still into it. I keep my disappointment contained for these forums. I disagree with people saying this is the worst show this season, because they seem to forget just how bad 95% of TV actually is. It's still above average TV.
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 16:14 |
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Beck posted:To put it simply, goons are nerds that are hard to please. I'm the same way. I watch this show and talk about it with friends and parents, and they're all still into it. I keep my disappointment contained for these forums. I disagree with people saying this is the worst show this season, because they seem to forget just how bad 95% of TV actually is. It's still above average TV. They're speaking comparatively. Most of us don't watch the stuff your average person/your parents would watch. They watch cable serials only, basically.
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 16:17 |
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Darko posted:They're speaking comparatively. Most of us don't watch the stuff your average person/your parents would watch. They watch cable serials only, basically. I understand that. I'm just saying it's not bad that he enjoys it, because most people do according to its ratings. He's not some freak for disagreeing with goons, because we're a very, very niche part of television watchers. Also, Dexter is easily twice as bad as the walking dead. For two episodes now I was about to hit play on a new episode of Dexter, and I just couldn't bring myself to go through with it.
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 16:20 |
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As slow and dumb as this show can be, it's not a drama show about cops, lawyers, doctors, or forensic investigators, so I proudly worship at the altar of its idiocy.
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 16:21 |
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Darko posted:They're speaking comparatively. Most of us don't watch the stuff your average person/your parents would watch. They watch cable serials only, basically. That being said, sometimes there's nothing more satisfying than a greasy cheeseburger (Lost).
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 16:39 |
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Darko posted:The other thread isn't being rated because of the content of the thread, it's a lot of people rating based on how bad the show is, and isn't a universal "rate 1" thread. The thread is fine at this point because everyone is basically on the same page as to how bad the show sucks. It's when people can't agree that you get the horrible threads. I rated it on the content, it's a bunch of whining about a mediocre show based on a pretty mediocre comic. Personally I've enjoyed TWD so far, certainly more than the books, but that thread is just an endless circlejerk of bitching.
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 16:51 |
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keep punching joe posted:I rated it on the content, it's a bunch of whining about a mediocre show based on a pretty mediocre comic. Personally I've enjoyed TWD so far, certainly more than the books, but that thread is just an endless circlejerk of bitching. I think it's pretty funny actually; some of the bitching points out ridiculous flaws or logic holes I didn't even notice on the first viewing, which is kind of amusing. Not as funny as the Dexter thread or as light and silly as the Smallville thread, but it's getting there.
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| # ? Nov 16, 2011 16:53 |
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I hope to God they've been dragging out Sophia's disappearance for five episodes just to have her be a zombie. Then they can have a thirty minute debate about whether or not they kill Zombie-Sophia or... Well, there's no alternative, but you know they'll milk it as long as they can.
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| # ? Nov 17, 2011 23:18 |
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SpaceMost posted:I hope to God they've been dragging out Sophia's disappearance for five episodes just to have her be a zombie. Someone posted this in the main thread. Looks pretty real  In this case everyone will be telling Andrea to shoot Sofia but of course she'll freeze up and Daryl will get bitten or something.
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Goddamn I hope they don't get rid of Daryl. Honestly I can't see why the only 2 characters who are given any real depth are the ones that aren't in the comic (Shane - who is in the comic but is dead by this point - and Daryl). I'd say Glenn is a close third, but then he turned into a surly rear end in a top hat for no reason in the last episode (Girl won't gently caress me, hey are all these women on their periods or what?). It's probably the only thing I've liked Norman Reedus in, and if they kill him off it'll be the thing that got me to quit the show at last. The only reason i'm clinging on is to see if it improves post-Darabont. He was still involved at this point right? As much of a fan as I am of his I think it's pretty clear he doesn't know how to write for TV. With an actual experienced writer at the helm hopefully things will improve.
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