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How do I use thermal optics in vehicles? I don't see a key bind option for it.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:35 |
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^^^^ They have to be selected in your vehicle customization screen. They take up a slot that can be used for other poo poo, I forget which one exactly though. I think RMB toggles them on and off when you have them equipped.Icept posted:I agree completely and I think they need to look a bit at the Recon in general. Compared to the other classes, engineer in particular, he seems largely useless on a team, and his tools are sorta weak. I think it would be cool if his stuff was redone a bit, perhaps 2 MAVs, one which can laser paint and one which has the motion sensor stuff. I have said this before and I will say it again - if you want to play Recon and own, use the MK 11 or SVD with iron sights or a 1x scope and just run around with your team and own poo poo. Two or three shots with the rifles will down anyone. Play offensively, place beacons wisely and you'll do well. EDIT: This is not to say that their gadgets are not lovely, however. The beacon is definitely the best DrPop fucked around with this message at Oct 31, 2011 around 14:38 |
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Liberatore posted:SOFLAM is so incredibly unrewarding. You pretty much need to be in a squad with voice chat for it to do anything. I'd have less problems with it if you didn't have to deploy it, I just get a perverse kick out of seeing bad pilots pop their flares for no reason.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:35 |
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Rei_ posted:I just realized that tiny little rectangle on the bottom of the Chopper Pilots HUD is a diagram showing where the gunner is currently aiming.  Goddamn it.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:36 |
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ace_beef posted:Yeah the key to doing well in the chopper is coordination with your gunner. Having 2 sets of flares is very helpful, or extinguisher + flares. Don't even bother going near an AA gun unless you are certain it is engaging something else. TV missiles are so far away to unlock which is somewhat annoying. On the subject of choppers, i really hate that thermal vision shares a slot with flares. It should just be always on for the gunner. I don't play on hardcore servers which means thermal vision is mostly a cosmetic change, making it so you shoot at white dots rather than red triangles. It's nice, but by far one of the more redundant unlocks if you know how to mash Q (mashing Q is not hard). TV missiles are not that great. As I implied earlier, they fill a very useful tactical niche, but they have a lot of issues that prevent them from being some sort of bread and butter weapon. They're great for hitting immobile or slow moving things from across half the map. The rocket pods are great for immobilizing things from half the map away. You do the math. Double flares is strictly inferior to flares + extinguisher, because the latter works for all sorts of damage and will really save your bacon in a hairy spot. Double flares means you can be somewhat more ballsy in areas with a ton of stingers, something that's usually a bad idea anyhow for a number of reasons.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:36 |
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hayden. posted:How do I use thermal optics in vehicles? I don't see a key bind option for it. You right click to switch it on, assuming you selected it from the customize screen. Edit: Yeah my pilot hasn't unlocked the extinguisher yet unfortunately. I was just assuming the thermal optics also included the zoom function as well (like in that coop mission). Shooting at orange triangles across the map does indeed work. I think Canals as US is probably the most chopper friendly map, or Kharg island rush. ace_beef fucked around with this message at Oct 31, 2011 around 14:40 |
| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:37 |
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Anyone else have issues spotting in jets? I used to spot people in beta all the time to make dogfighting them easier, but while I can hold down the button and bring up the rose, it just wont spot. (This is bound to a button on my XB pad, for the record) It's annoying for tracking people in dogfights, sometimes I want to take stealth over air radar.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:37 |
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Hey so here's a maybe stupid question. If someone on your friends list is currently in a game, how do you send them a message of some kind?
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:40 |
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ace_beef posted:Yeah the key to doing well in the chopper is coordination with your gunner. Having 2 sets of flares is very helpful, or extinguisher + flares. Don't even bother going near an AA gun unless you are certain it is engaging something else. TV missiles are so far away to unlock which is somewhat annoying. On the subject of choppers, i really hate that thermal vision shares a slot with flares. It should just be always on for the gunner. This. Even with countermeasures helicopters are incredibly vulnerable but you really need to have a good gunner if you want to survive longer than a few people to spawn with Stingers. e: do vehicle abilities stack depending on who is riding in the vehicle with you like in Bad Company 2?
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:40 |
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Liberatore posted:The M240B has some incredible damage potential due to its rate of fire and caliber, but it loses control for it. With the M60 you can literally never stop shooting until you're out of bullets and still be accurate at long range while at it. The M60 is definitely my favorite balance of power and accuracy out of the LMGs, but it still feels like complete poo poo compared to any rifle or carbine except in the rare cases that I can live through the hail of grenades and rockets long enough to mount it on a bipod in a mid-range area. Every other class easily dominates you at long enough ranges and suppression is an utterly worthless mechanic except as a way to pick up extra points and feel like your godawful inaccurate gun is actually helping.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:43 |
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Yodzilla posted:e: do vehicle abilities stack depending on who is riding in the vehicle with you like in Bad Company 2? That's a funny thing to ask given that vehicle abilities didn't stack in BC2. Upgrades such as V armor or V sensor only worked when deployed in the driver seat, only V warhead and V reload worked anywhere else, and then only for that particular seat!
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:44 |
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Grand Bazaar conquest is probably the worst designed map I've ever played in a multiplayer game. It's literally fy_iceworld transported into a game with constant respawns and explosives everywhere.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:46 |
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Hey so here's a maybe stupid question. If someone on your friends list is currently in a game, how do you send them a message of some kind? Shift-F1 to open the Origin browser. This routinely either crashes my game or makes it spaz out and go windowed though so your mileage may vary.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:47 |
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Flashing Twelve posted:Grand Bazaar conquest is probably the worst designed map I've ever played in a multiplayer game. It's literally fy_iceworld transported into a game with constant respawns and explosives everywhere. Just curious have you ever played Metro conquest?
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:48 |
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Flashing Twelve posted:Grand Bazaar conquest is probably the worst designed map I've ever played in a multiplayer game. It's literally fy_iceworld transported into a game with constant respawns and explosives everywhere. Grand Bazaar TDM is fun.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:49 |
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Banana Cream Pie posted:That's a funny thing to ask given that vehicle abilities didn't stack in BC2. Upgrades such as V armor or V sensor only worked when deployed in the driver seat, only V warhead and V reload worked anywhere else, and then only for that particular seat!  Well apparently there was some serious placebo effects going on!
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:50 |
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Umberger posted:Just curious have you ever played Metro conquest? Metro conquest is garbage too but at least that has appeal to the "instant respawn 24/7 sabotage nuketown" crowd. Grand Bazaar conquest is completely unredeemable in every respect. Actually, most of the maps in this game are just flatout poo poo, I'm realising more and more that Caspian Border is the best map in the game by a very long margin.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:51 |
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KildarX posted:I'd have less problems with it if you didn't have to deploy it, I just get a perverse kick out of seeing bad pilots pop their flares for no reason. Oh yeah, that would solve all of its problems. The whole deploying thing is nice but it's mostly just flavor, as this feature is clunky as gently caress and not very good for something that doesn't provide the same level of immediate reward as say the mortar. The only good thing about the way it works right now is that I've seen people (tanks, even) try to shoot the SOFLAM at long range only to never succeed in destroying it. It's cool that you can hide somewhere and use it remotely, but the range is not good enough and most of the maps are not open enough for this to be as useful as I would like. That or if once you're locked on, it would automatically rotate and chase the target. That would be fun and would make it feasible to pick up an engineer kit from the ground and use it with your own SOFLAM. DrPop posted:I have said this before and I will say it again - if you want to play Recon and own, use the MK 11 or SVD with iron sights or a 1x scope and just run around with your team and own poo poo. Two or three shots with the rifles will down anyone. Play offensively, place beacons wisely and you'll do well. EDIT: This is not to say that their gadgets are not lovely, however. The beacon is definitely the best Yeah, I love the MK 11. But unless it's a map like Grand Bazaar however, I will still use a high power scope. I have no trouble killing people at close range with it. They're also amazing with a bipod. It greatly reduces the recoil so you can basically fire the rifle as if it were a pistol - at long range you can fire your third shot just as the first one hits the enemy, they never see it coming. The biggest problem with the beacon is that it can be seen in the map by enemy players. In big, open maps I actually end up using it as a way of ambushing enemies. Rei_ posted:I just realized that tiny little rectangle on the bottom of the Chopper Pilots HUD is a diagram showing where the gunner is currently aiming. Haha, it's been like that since BF2 at the very least. Liberatore fucked around with this message at Oct 31, 2011 around 14:59 |
| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:52 |
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Flashing Twelve posted:Grand Bazaar conquest is probably the worst designed map I've ever played in a multiplayer game. It's literally fy_iceworld transported into a game with constant respawns and explosives everywhere. The map has so many flanking routes. Dont know how you can say it is the worst designed map ever. Metro is far worse.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:52 |
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Sprocket posted:Shift-F1 to open the Origin browser. This routinely either crashes my game or makes it spaz out and go windowed though so your mileage may vary. So I have to add someone on Battlelog and then add them on Origin and hope they use their overlay (which I don't, currently)? Currently when someone sends me a message in Battlelog while I'm playing a game the Message Received sound only plays after I quit.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:53 |
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Flashing Twelve posted:Grand Bazaar conquest is probably the worst designed map I've ever played in a multiplayer game. It's literally fy_iceworld transported into a game with constant respawns and explosives everywhere. Have you played Canals Rush? The Tunguska can completely shut down the attacking team with its surprise sex cannon. Popping boats, swatting choppers and disabling the AMTRAC so that people either have to sit in it until it explodes or swim to the shore. It's even worse if any of the defenders have Javelins. Provided, of course, the Javelins don't crap out and start targeting the ground below the target as they often do. Canals CQ can be fun because the Russians start as far away from the shore as possible and the US team can get on land. And Kharg has a similar problem, but it at least has the massive wall of dirt from a cinematic airstrike acting as a massive smoke grenade, and the US team gets three LAVs to push out with.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:55 |
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Anyone up for some coop? The Paris sniper mission is apparently impossible without voice chat. http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/user/Selklubber/
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:57 |
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Flashing Twelve posted:Metro conquest is garbage too but at least that has appeal to the "instant respawn 24/7 sabotage nuketown" crowd. Grand Bazaar conquest is completely unredeemable in every respect. Actually, most of the maps in this game are just flatout poo poo, I'm realising more and more that Caspian Border is the best map in the game by a very long margin. I'm feeling this way too. Not a very big fan of Seine, Grand Bazaar, metro or Damavand Peak. Then they big maps they gave us seem to have all 5 flags withing 20ft of each other essentially turning them into the same thing as small maps. I really hope they don't gently caress with the setup of the BTK maps too much.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:58 |
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grand bazaar cq is pretty fun. it's a clusterfuck yeah but it's a fun clusterfuck unlike metro cq. there are actual ebbs and flows to the battle over the course of the match. mortars shouldn't be allowed to setup in spawn though.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 14:59 |
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KildarX posted:I'd have less problems with it if you didn't have to deploy it, I just get a perverse kick out of seeing bad pilots pop their flares for no reason. The special forces expansion for BF2 had the soflam as binoculars that you didn't deploy for the spec ops class, and they were loving awesome. Also, the the soflam shouldn't automatically lock onto things. It is a laser, you should left click to turn it on and then have to manually track the target. That way it actually feels like you're doing something while using it, and it allows you to turn on the laser only when one of your teammates is ready to fire so that you can use it for spotting and general reconnaissance without inadvertently giving it away by locking on to some random tank driving by.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:02 |
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Hmm... whats with the Engineer class only being able to take one gadget? Can't Support and Assault keep their Med/Ammo kit and also take another gadget? I don't actually know about Recon, I haven't played Recon at all...
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:03 |
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ChewyLSB posted:Hmm... whats with the Engineer class only being able to take one gadget? Can't Support and Assault keep their Med/Ammo kit and also take another gadget? I don't actually know about Recon, I haven't played Recon at all...
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:04 |
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ChewyLSB posted:Hmm... whats with the Engineer class only being able to take one gadget? Can't Support and Assault keep their Med/Ammo kit and also take another gadget? I don't actually know about Recon, I haven't played Recon at all... Your rocket launcher counts as a gadget. Gadget one: launcher of your choice. Gadget two: welder, EOD, or mines.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:05 |
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Alkydere posted:Canals CQ can be fun because the Russians start as far away from the shore as possible and the US team can get on land. And Kharg has a similar problem, but it at least has the massive wall of dirt from a cinematic airstrike acting as a massive smoke grenade, and the US team gets three LAVs to push out with. I haven't tried Kharg Rush yet. it has a scripted airstrike? That's cool, I've only seen the scripted bombing on metro so far. Are there any other scripted events? I havent seen any or the Rush I've seen so far (mostly played CQ) and was a bit disappointed by it. BC2 had the little cutscenes post game and tons of scripted radio chatter. Hell, no one even talks about needing to jump in Damavand, which is a shame because the game could do with some more flavour stuff. Don't get me wrong, BF3 is amazing, but it's absolutely dry as a bone. I really wish they had a little more fun with it and handn't abandoned Bad Companys ethos entirely. Battlefield is a very silly game where very silly things happen, but they've gone for an incredibly cold presentation with sinister and tense music and yet I am charging up to tanks with C4 like a big drat hero. Doesn't quite gel.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:05 |
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You mean the BF3 single player right? Yeah it kinda blows.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:06 |
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Elerion posted:So Washow, did you ever have any success with the gamepad jet controls? Why/why not? This isn't directed at me but I tried my best to adjust to my PS3 controller for jet/heli stuff but just couldn't match up with anyone who had a joystick. I went out and bought a cheapo $30 Logitech joystick, within 30 minutes I was very competitive with most pilots and finally able to take out the annoying helicopter crewed by semi-competent people. It makes it so much easier to line up strafes with the guns which makes a huge difference in destroying ground targets too.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:07 |
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Alkydere posted:Your rocket launcher counts as a gadget. Gadget one: launcher of your choice. Gadget two: welder, EOD, or mines. Ah, I see, I thought the Rocket launcher was more like the Grenade Launcher for Assaults, since its in the same weapon slot as the Grenade Launcher. I just unlocked the EOD Bot, I assume it repairs more slowly than the straight up Repair tool? I also assume that you can't repair Boats or Helicopters from inside using the EOD Bot.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:08 |
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Last person to join on a 64 player server. All squads on my team except one are 4/4. Alpha is 2/4... and set to private. Me without a squad, hence no delicious juicy squad points, and stuck with limited spawn points. Yes, it's a design flaw to have exactly enough squad slots for the number of people on the team, but have a tiny bit of decency and help a brother out? I promise I'll play a class that's not represented in the squad, I'll drop ammo or defib or blow you or whatever. After multiple attempts at binding my Logitech dual action controller for flying, the only success I've had is using the Logitech profiler software, binding keystrokes to axes/buttons within the profiler, and setting the profile to be persistent. If any of you are as frustrated with binding as I've been, try that.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:08 |
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recons should get points for people using the mobile spawn they deploy i'm just complaining because i get poo poo for points as a recon ChewyLSB posted:Ah, I see, I thought the Rocket launcher was more like the Grenade Launcher for Assaults, since its in the same weapon slot as the Grenade Launcher.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:08 |
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wyoak posted:recons should get points for people using the mobile spawn they deploy They do.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:10 |
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you all might know this but i just randomly discovered something that i was really missing from bc2- if you want to request a pick up from a vehicle with spots in, hover over it with your crosshairs and hit q twice quickly. your character should shout something and (i'm assuming) the driver will get a notification on their minimap of where you are
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:10 |
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Crigit posted:They do. edit to add the title of this thread bugs the grammar nazi in me wyoak fucked around with this message at Oct 31, 2011 around 15:13 |
| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:10 |
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What a loving lovely experience I've had with this game so far. All the poo poo that needs to be installed for it, all the trouble. Anyway, I am trying to start the singleplayer campaign but it cuts out about 10 seconds into the very first cutscene and repeats. What gives?
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:13 |
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Speaking of things missing from bc2, anyone else wondering why the hell the notifications for base capture/loss don't specify which base is actually affected? It really makes it hard to keep track of the overall battle when all you hear is WE LOST THE BASE or THE BASE IS REDUCED. There're a lot of small details like that that seem like steps back from bc2, but that one sticks out to me the most.
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| # ? Oct 31, 2011 15:15 |
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Muscle Wizard posted:Speaking of things missing from bc2, anyone else wondering why the hell the notifications for base capture/loss don't specify which base is actually affected? It really makes it hard to keep track of the overall battle when all you hear is WE LOST THE BASE or THE BASE IS REDUCED. There're a lot of small details like that that seem like steps back from bc2, but that one sticks out to me the most. Going along with this why aren't the Diamonds above the mini map Labelled with which base they are? Just a simple A - E in each diamond would go a long way in making it a lot better. In addition, I hate having to constantly cycle between mini map zooms, especially when I never loving use the middle zoom. If hitting M just made the map bigger and also zoomed out to the maximum zoom that would make it a lot better.
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