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Kessel
Mar 6, 2007



My greatest regret about the maps is that the BASE jump on Damavand rush owns and I don't see it often enough because I enjoy conquest more

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Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



Kessel posted:

My greatest regret about the maps is that the BASE jump on Damavand rush owns and I don't see it often enough because I enjoy conquest more
The base jump should have been the US uncap.

Cosmo Clock 21 posted:

Gamespot general B2K video
"Includes the new F-35 jet"
*footage of flying around aimlessly in an Su-35*

wide stance
Jan 28, 2011

wheezy old man laugh
then bleghghrghahr coughs

Some things I've been wanting to ask from reading this thread...
1. What's a 'dead zone'?
2. What do doctor pepper codes do and why do so many people want them?

VarXX
Oct 31, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 16 days!


wide stance posted:

Some things I've been wanting to ask from reading this thread...
1. What's a 'dead zone'?

What the software considers the Center of the joystick. So if you have a joystick that wobbles a bit in the middle, you want a higher dead zone so it doesnt think you are holding UP when you arent touching it.

Coleman
May 5, 2011

This just in: Beverly Hills 90210, Cleveland Browns 3.


Ugly In The Morning posted:

Not a big fan of the shore spawn zones for US. Which is weird, because I loving HATED getting stuck without a foothold, but it just feels like instead of trying to fix the problem and give the US more options to land on the beach, they just went "Eh, gently caress it". Fighting your way off the carrier to get that first land spawn point could be pretty loving amazing sometimes.
It would make a lot more sense if you could sink the Carrier. I used to do that in 1942. Sink the Carrier when we've capped all the flags leaving them without a spawn point and having to wait the 5 minutes or whatever it took for the carrier to respawn. Maybe they've made that possible again, so they gave the US alternate spawn points.

Azzip
Oct 22, 2006
Something really profound

Kessel posted:

My greatest regret about the maps is that the BASE jump on Damavand rush owns and I don't see it often enough because I enjoy conquest more

Thankyou... THAT explains why I have never done the base jump, I thought there was a map that was never in rotation

wide stance posted:

2. What do doctor pepper codes do and why do so many people want them?

You can get unique dogtags and a multiplayer skin (which looks like the same as all the others)

http://www.drpepper.com/promotions/ea/

edit: I proudly wear the 6 wolf moon tag

Azzip fucked around with this message at Nov 29, 2011 around 18:36

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.


Cosmo Clock 21 posted:

Gamespot general B2K video

Check out this awesome gameplay preview!
*fires at and misses infantry in tank third person view*
*flies around aimlessly for 20 seconds in the Flanker while telling us how great the F-35 is and then crashes*
*cut to trailer footage*

Kessel
Mar 6, 2007



Azzip posted:

Thankyou... THAT explains why I have never done the base jump, I thought there was a map that was never in rotation

It's really amazing. It's one of those Battlefield things where you realise for the first time what you have to do to get to the next set of objectives and you're like, "Are you loving serious holy poo poo that owns."

It may be a gimmick but it never gets old for me. I can only wish more of the other maps exhibited that sort of creativity.

Scinon
Jul 23, 2006
Now with 2% more atoms!

Anyone else notice the aircraft hangers on the Wake Island video? Looks like you will turn when taking off.

Axeface
Feb 28, 2009

He Who Walks
Behind The Aisles


God, I'm terrible at tanks. Does anybody have any tips on what to do when you don't have any upgrades? Every time I jump in one I get popped in, like, two minutes flat.

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011



Axeface posted:

God, I'm terrible at tanks. Does anybody have any tips on what to do when you don't have any upgrades? Every time I jump in one I get popped in, like, two minutes flat.

Don't do what you see pubbies doing, which is trying to use tanks like it's WW2 and almost nobody has anti-tank weapons. Your job isn't to move ahead of your teammates and push the enemy back, it's to support your teammates and help them push. Lurk around the edges of the battlefield and drive away to safety when you start getting overwhelmed. Move constantly, backwards and forwards, to avoid mortars and RPG fire.

Seriously, if things aren't going your way - don't try to turn around and acquire a target. Get moving and drive around the block or half the map if you have to. Having somebody on the turret is a huge help, and an engineer tailing you even better, but it's not necessary for you to ruin people if you're careful.

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

War so serious?


This is so true, a tank supported by infantry is so much more effective. When you put a motion sensor on the tank you spot nearby infantry for your teammates as well.

FlyingCowOfDoom
Aug 1, 2003

let the beat drop


I'm a few pages behind, but I just ran into TrickerX again, and man I hate that guy. If he gets off the ground you're toast, he's just drat good.

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.



Grey Fox V2 posted:

If the Russians had anyone as coordinated as they were that jet would have been taken down much faster. Like anything in Battlefield it just comes down to coordinated team play.

That's some hardcore pruning.

Did you mean announcements or events because there is a difference.

Events.

ChewyLSB
Jan 13, 2008

Should I get hit with sanctions or batteries?

Axeface posted:

God, I'm terrible at tanks. Does anybody have any tips on what to do when you don't have any upgrades? Every time I jump in one I get popped in, like, two minutes flat.

I wrote a whole bunch of words on how to use tanks earlier in the thread, let me see if I can find it.

Edit: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...0#post397438219

Twlight
Feb 18, 2005

I brag about getting free drinks from my boss to make myself feel superior

A lot of people like to go rambo with the tank which as stated above isn't the correct way to use them. Make sure that you're spotting when you can as well. The biggest thing starting out, is that you dont want to get squeezed or boxed in any close quarters as this usually is the end of you from C4,mines,etc. stick to the edges (as again expertly stated above) and work on hitting vehicles from the sides and behind as that does the most damage.

Remember that if you're getting locked on and your solo in the tank, hopping out will break the lock. While this is quite cheesy it's something to consider. Once you get the auto loader you'll be fine using the main gun, What I usually run for upgrades on the tank is:

Thermal Optics: this is great to spot mines, players hiding in brush. The cons are you'll loose smoke and zoom optics.( I usually never run smoke because you can duck behind things to avoid missiles, usually.)

Auto loader: This is a must I feel, almost all of the time you're going to beat another tank without auto loader if you have it.

Guided Shell: This thing is seriously great, it will take out helicopters (especially if someone is using the SOFLAM) and is great on tanks for a quick one two punch of normal shell then a locked on Guided should bring them to disabled where you'll be able to get another regular shell off usually finishing off the tank. Now the guided shell has a lengthy reload (which im not sure if it's affected by the auto loader or not) so you'll have to get a feeling for the timing.

This got a little wordy and I'm sure you guys have much better ideas as to how to work the tank well!

Axeface
Feb 28, 2009

He Who Walks
Behind The Aisles


Vertigus posted:

Don't do what you see pubbies doing, which is trying to use tanks like it's WW2 and almost nobody has anti-tank weapons. Your job isn't to move ahead of your teammates and push the enemy back, it's to support your teammates and help them push. Lurk around the edges of the battlefield and drive away to safety when you start getting overwhelmed. Move constantly, backwards and forwards, to avoid mortars and RPG fire.

Seriously, if things aren't going your way - don't try to turn around and acquire a target. Get moving and drive around the block or half the map if you have to. Having somebody on the turret is a huge help, and an engineer tailing you even better, but it's not necessary for you to ruin people if you're careful.

ChewyLSB posted:

I wrote a whole bunch of words on how to use tanks earlier in the thread, let me see if I can find it.

Edit: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...0#post397438219

You are both good people, thanks. E: Also you, third guy!

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.


I'm also really looking forward to being shot by the Tunguska no matter where I am on the island.

Twlight
Feb 18, 2005

I brag about getting free drinks from my boss to make myself feel superior

ChewyLSB posted:

I wrote a whole bunch of words on how to use tanks earlier in the thread, let me see if I can find it.

Edit: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...0#post397438219

This is much more eloquently put so here ya go! especially the facing the tank setting your self up using the front of the tank to engage another tank is why they're built like that.

radintorov
Feb 18, 2011


zalderach posted:

This is so true, a tank supported by infantry is so much more effective. When you put a motion sensor on the tank you spot nearby infantry for your teammates as well.
That or have a guy in the CITV slot, so you can use the equipment slot for something generally better like Autoloader.
Unfortunately, as I've noticed, most players don't actually look at the minimap. I've seen times and times again, especially on urban maps where I'm MAVving it, players sprinting past corners behind which up to 12 or so enemies might be in ambush, even though they have been spotted (usually by yours truly) and show up on the minimap.

commish
Sep 17, 2009



Twlight posted:

This is much more eloquently put so here ya go! especially the facing the tank setting your self up using the front of the tank to engage another tank is why they're built like that.

Good, agree with most of that. Someone said that, if you got shot and you don't know who shot you, you should get out of there instead of hunting for the shooter. Man, is this true. If I get the drop on you in my tank, you are FINISHED if you try to shoot me. Guided shells are so great - the double tap means I win most 1 on 1 tank battles. You best bet is to get out of there if possible and regroup. Same when you get shot by an RPG. It's pretty easy to avoid tank fire as infantry on most maps and get clean RPG shots off unless the tank has a good gunner. Gunners make a world of difference.

Of course, always be an engineer when you drive a tank, and always have your repair tool.

Now that I think about it, a new tank driver should probably avoid 1 on 1 battles with other tanks until he levels up the tank a bit. Even just Auto Loader can make a difference.

Peechka
Nov 10, 2005



Daman posted:

I don't understand how he'd even get that many kills with a MAV -- people must be really, really awful. Do they not know it can be shot down?

Well usually in a game of 64 player conquest metro, there is like at least 4 of those things flying around and they are hard to bring down if the player is good at flying them. Sure you can shoot them down, but have you ever tried? The map also lends itself to having people lined up behind corners and hugging walls. So if you are good at flying those things, you can take out 2-4 people in a row which are all lined up.

The problem I have with them is that you cannot be rezzed when killed by them, I have no clue why, and there is absolutely no risk to using them, since the dude controlling it is usually safely tucked away somewhere behind the battle with infinite spawns of it if he chooses. Shoot it down? No problem just spawn another one like nothing happened.

Peechka fucked around with this message at Nov 29, 2011 around 19:39

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



Peechka posted:

Well usually in a game of 64 player conquest metro, there is like at least 4 of those things flying around and they are hard to bring down if the player is good at flying them. Sure you can shoot them down, but have you ever tried?

The problem I have with them is that you cannot be rezzed when killed by them, I have no clue why, and there is absolutely no risk to using them, since the dude controlling it is usually safely tucked away somewhere behind the battle with infinite spawns of it if he chooses. Shoot it down? No problem just spawn another one like nothing happened.
I like to shoot Javelins at them because half the time they miss and end up either killing me or some random person.

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.


Much like the attack choppers, the difference between going solo/random scrub gunner and having an engineer gunner with you who you trust and can be on voice with is so massive that writing one guide for both is pointless. You can literally win 75% of tank on tank battles doing nothing more than point your frontal armor at the other tank, landing hits on him and having your partner sitting behind the tank repairing. The number of other tanks out there doing the same is fairly small, and any tank with just 1 guy in it or some random recon manning the machine gun is going to die to you. Your gunner can help you kill infantry, ward off helicopters, pick off C4 attempts, promptly repair you after jet guided missiles, etc etc.

Night and day compared to solo gunning or having someone random in your tank. If that is the case, then you must play far more conservatively. Try to find another friendly tank to follow and/or stay behind friendly infantry. Keep your distance and watch for mines. Have an exit plan if you run into another tank.

Coleman
May 5, 2011

This just in: Beverly Hills 90210, Cleveland Browns 3.


cheese posted:

Much like the attack choppers, the difference between going solo/random scrub gunner and having an engineer gunner with you who you trust and can be on voice with is so massive that writing one guide for both is pointless. You can literally win 75% of tank on tank battles doing nothing more than point your frontal armor at the other tank, landing hits on him and having your partner sitting behind the tank repairing. The number of other tanks out there doing the same is fairly small, and any tank with just 1 guy in it or some random recon manning the machine gun is going to die to you. Your gunner can help you kill infantry, ward off helicopters, pick off C4 attempts, promptly repair you after jet guided missiles, etc etc.

Night and day compared to solo gunning or having someone random in your tank. If that is the case, then you must play far more conservatively. Try to find another friendly tank to follow and/or stay behind friendly infantry. Keep your distance and watch for mines. Have an exit plan if you run into another tank.
It's amazing how many players are completely oblivious to proper "etiquette" while pubbing. Guys that get in the gunner seat of a tank, and at the first sign of trouble simply run away. I have 5 guys around me, including Engineers and when I dare tell them they're moronic for not trying to help out the tank/repair/gun, suddenly I'm the idiot for not getting out to repair it myself leaving the tank empty and helpless against another tank.

There should be a law about getting in the gunner seat of a pub tank without being Engineer.

commish
Sep 17, 2009



Coleman posted:

It's amazing how many players are completely oblivious to proper "etiquette" while pubbing. Guys that get in the gunner seat of a tank, and at the first sign of trouble simply run away. I have 5 guys around me, including Engineers and when I dare tell them they're moronic for not trying to help out the tank/repair/gun, suddenly I'm the idiot for not getting out to repair it myself leaving the tank empty and helpless against another tank.

There should be a law about getting in the gunner seat of a pub tank without being Engineer.

I really enjoy when those pubbies fire the 50 cal at other tanks in a tank battle. Yes, thank you - please continue to do no damage to the tank and allow support to place c4 all over my tank and 90 RPG engineers to light my tank up. Thanks for that.

Gonkish
May 19, 2004




At the end of this Battlefieldo video you see the chopper get down into the 30-35% range and yet it's not disabled, nor has it used an extinguisher. What's going on there? (They're clearly playing on PC, too, as the prompt for reloading is [R] and not a gamepad button.)

wide stance
Jan 28, 2011

wheezy old man laugh
then bleghghrghahr coughs

commish posted:

I really enjoy when those pubbies fire the 50 cal at other tanks in a tank battle. Yes, thank you - please continue to do no damage to the tank and allow support to place c4 all over my tank and 90 RPG engineers to light my tank up. Thanks for that.

The worst is that it often alerts that tank to your presence.

Eggs
Apr 15, 2007


Smegmatron posted:

Yes, handing over air superiority to the other team so that their choppers can run around squirting poo poo all over your team with impunity is definitely a good strategy. Have you considered writing a strategy guide for Battlefield 3? There's money to be made with that brain of yours.

Eh, I have yet to really to play in a game where a pilot is dominating one team. I think I have been killed by a jet / chopper while playing infantry only a couple times. Then again I exclusively play in pubs so I dunno if they are mostly just bad pilots or what.

Anonononomous
Jul 1, 2007



They actually announced the early DLC a month before that. They just started saying it was because of 1943 when the game came out and boxes didn't have the codes in them. http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011...-exclusivity-2/

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.



tekz posted:

Getting really sick of this game unless air gets nerfed

Stop playing lovely?

I keep seeing posts that are "air is worthless" to "air is too powerful" Sounds like they got the balance right to me. Reminds me of the old folks home that my grandparents lived at for a while. My grandfather was in charge of the complaint box. "The soup is too chunky" one note would say, followed by "the soup is too soft." Same poo poo here.

Too much spergyness in here.

Aeka 2.0 fucked around with this message at Nov 29, 2011 around 20:38

Node
May 20, 2001



I'd be happier with jets if they had bombers in conquest mode. Why isn't the A-10 and Frogfoot in conquest maps? That would give jets an even more important role. I'm not particularly mad about it, but it does confuse me a bit.

Incredulous Dylan
Oct 22, 2004

The act is always the same, but each time it's different.

It would be interesting to see a mix of each of the two jets in Conquest large. It would be interesting to see dog fighting centered more around protecting your bomber as it assaults ground targets. I wouldn't like to see it right now due to skill disparities but as everyone equals out down the road it would be a nice change up to keep things fresh

Banana Cream Pie
Jun 17, 2009


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFCclyZ1Dn8

Peavey
Aug 22, 2007
hi

Have they hinted anywhere that they plan to change the min server population thing at any point? From release day until the patch I only played on the Euro Goon server, since the patch it has always been empty and pubbie servers are horrible. What the hell is wrong with most server admins? I'm currently struggling to play for more than one round before either the bad maps, stupid pubbies or a black screen load failure sucks the fun out of the game for me (Assuming an admin doesn't kick me mid round for killing him).

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

That heli pilot was literally cornholing the LHD

The Jax
May 15, 2004


Aeka 2.0 posted:

Stop playing lovely?

I keep seeing posts that are "air is worthless" to "air is too powerful" Sounds like they got the balance right to me. Reminds me of the old folks home that my grandparents lived at for a while. My grandfather was in charge of the complaint box. "The soup is too chunky" one note would say, followed by "the soup is too soft." Same poo poo here.

Too much spergyness in here.

Well then, let's get back on topic with a gripe that I feel should be universally uncontested (for the record, though, the stinger nerf was an act of utter retardation). I wish to speak of the IRNV. Allowing a predator vision option is flat-out game breaking. I appreciate the attention to detail demonstrated by including real life "combat buffs", but while I'm ok with US special forces teams using instant win equipment to take on Islamist terrorists, having it as an option in BF3 is a really, really, really bad idea.

It galls me to no end to have to choose between my innate desire to roll with the best kit/specs available and the sad reality that, when I do so, all the game's amazing graphics are thrown in the trash. It's the intricate shadow, light, and foliage detail that makes this game so impressive. So much so, that if the IRNV offered only a slight advantage, I would give it up in a second if it meant I didn't have to sacrifice the game's visual element. But the advantage the IRNV (and to only a slightly lesser extent, the thermal vision) offers isn't slight at all. It's HUGE. On some maps, I might as well be shooting targets twice the size with 15% health... and that's just stupid.

TheMollusk
Jan 2, 2005
i make that money by jerking off farm animals on tape

priznat posted:

That heli pilot was literally cornholing the LHD

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

soy
Jul 7, 2003



TWL Tournament semi-finals tonight, so excited.

Also my team got picked up for e-pro-gaming-athlete sponsorship leetness.

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neom
Jun 1, 2006

God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title

TheMollusk posted:

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Have you read the dictionary definition recently?

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