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It looks useless because it isn't granting magical see-through-everything vision anymore. The video demize tweeted had nothing environmental to interfere with it. This video has all sorts of environmental poo poo and that's the main thing that needed to be changed about it: rendering environmental obstacles irrelevant. Haze, smoke, fire, flashlights and lasers are affecting it now. That owns. It still provides a high contrast target at closer ranges, it just doesn't make poo poo see-through now. Good change.
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Smegmatron posted:It looks useless because it isn't granting magical see-through-everything vision anymore. Except it seems that the place it would excel in (the dark) it's effectively useless.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 15:46 |
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Okay so apparently the patch hasn't hit PC yet. Also, the Caspian border antenna now falls at 10 tickets.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 15:47 |
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peabody624 posted:Okay so apparently the patch hasn't hit PC yet. Also, the Caspian border antenna now falls at 10 tickets. 
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 15:48 |
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VarXX posted:Except it seems that the place it would excel in (the dark) it's effectively useless. Yeah, that's why I question the video. This map is a place where it should be useful, but I can't even see anything out of the scope in the vid. Has Dice even linked/commented on the video?
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 15:49 |
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Where is this info about the PC patch? I'm just seeing stuff talking about the PS3 one which is just the one we got last week.
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DurosKlav posted:Where is this info about the PC patch? I'm just seeing stuff talking about the PS3 one which is just the one we got last week. The PS3 patch has some extra changes that we did not recieve such as IRNV nerfs, fixes to squad spawning and apparently the Antenna collapsing in MP
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 15:50 |
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So did the SCAR get 2 nerfs in a row? Or is it still the same from the PC patch last week?
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 15:53 |
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There's a lot of haze in metro which barely affects the naked eye but absolutely hosed the IR scope on beta. Looks like its a reversion to that and then some.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 15:53 |
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VarXX posted:Except it seems that the place it would excel in (the dark) it's effectively useless. Yeah it's awfully dark with all those lights everywhere. It's about time to they reverted it to the way it was in Beta where it had a very specific niche and not an all purpose bright skins hack.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:04 |
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Speed Handle posted:Yeah it's awfully dark with all those lights everywhere. It's about time to they reverted it to the way it was in Beta where it had a very specific niche and not an all purpose bright skins hack. This is what I'm trying to get at. The footage going around shows it being just about the same in the daytime, but any place slightly dark you can't see 6 inches in front of you. There's no niche unless you want to consider it the only scope that only works in the bright day light VarXX fucked around with this message at Nov 30, 2011 around 16:11 |
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Smegmatron posted:Pack it up, IRNVailures. You're done. This better not be real. The IRNV is loving excellent the way it is and nerfing it like this would kill any desire for me to ever use one again 
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:08 |
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Some changes currently being tested. Looks like you RPG splash damage haters should be happy! http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf...54489491100463/ quote:Vehicles:
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:11 |
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Just got done chatting with Origin support because my game crashes two seconds after joining a match. It was recommended I run a clean boot on my W7 64bit machine. Can this actually potentially fix my problem or is the representative just giving me impractical instructions?
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:15 |
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quote:Slightly increased the blast radius of the rounds fired by helicopter gunners vs infantry. This is exactly what the choppers needed yes.  quote:Significantly increased the damage of Laser Guided Top Attack missiles. Are these two one in the same? Ever since unlocking the Javelin I've noticed that the drat thing doesn't hit it's target. Ever.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:17 |
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Looks like an AGM buff, and the lack of that stupid "instakill the pilot" bug. Both good changes. And even a slightly less useful Flare! Some of them I'm not all that happy with, mostly the chopper gunner nerf vs armor, but then it's increased vs infantry, hmm. Should be interesting.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:18 |
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"Significantly increased the damage of Laser Guided Top Attack missiles." "Javelin missiles fired without laser targeting now do more damage to the side and rear of MBTs." Javelins are fixed now?! Smegmatron posted:Pack it up, IRNVailures. You're done.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:19 |
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:This is exactly what the choppers needed yes.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:20 |
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Coleman posted:No, the first one is mostly for the AGM from jets and helicopters, I think. Which is good, considering right now the Jet AGM is completely worthless when used by yourself. Sounds like it applies to Javelins as well, if not exclusively. Laser Guided Top Attack missile is exactly what a Javelin is.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:22 |
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VarXX posted:Except it seems that the place it would excel in (the dark) it's effectively useless. Good. Honestly it should just be completely removed.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:24 |
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rizuhbull posted:Just got done chatting with Origin support because my game crashes two seconds after joining a match. It was recommended I run a clean boot on my W7 64bit machine. Just curious, have you tried disabling UPnP on your router? A full reinstall of Windows could potentially fix it if it's a conflict causing it.
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rizuhbull posted:Just got done chatting with Origin support because my game crashes two seconds after joining a match. It was recommended I run a clean boot on my W7 64bit machine. Well, it disables everything that isn't critical to the OS. So, if you do a clean boot and it fixes your problem then it stands to reason that the interference is third part and not bf3. If you still have the problem the issues is more likely to be bf3.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:25 |
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Internet Explorer posted:Sounds like it applies to Javelins as well, if not exclusively. Laser Guided Top Attack missile is exactly what a Javelin is.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:25 |
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commish posted:Looks like you RPG splash damage haters should be happy! Ahahaha the RPG splash was a total non issue in the game People got butthurt about it just like everyone gets butthurt about every weapon that kills them.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:27 |
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Coleman posted:Yeah I get that but I don't see why they'd list it twice like they did.
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Javelins having locational damage is a good thing. The idea that they do the same damage to a tank's rear as a SMAW does to the front just because nobody is designating is dumb.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:28 |
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Coleman posted:Yeah I get that but I don't see why they'd list it twice like they did. Because it is two different effects. One is an across the board increase, the other is an increase in damage to unlased targets at the side and rear of MBTs. At least that's how I read it. I think it'd be cool if it applies to Heli/Jet AGMs as well, but we'll see. I haven't played since early last week with the holidays and then I just got parts for a new computer on Black Friday. Still waiting for them to be delivered. Can't wait to build my new machine and try out the new patch(es).
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:28 |
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those changes loving own
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:29 |
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All I know is whenever I fire a Javelin, be it horizontal or flicking up, the drat rocket crashes right in front of the tank/jeep/etc and doesn't do poo poo.
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:All I know is whenever I fire a Javelin, be it horizontal or flicking up, the drat rocket crashes right in front of the tank/jeep/etc and doesn't do poo poo. Same. I've stopped using them completely.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:30 |
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Glad I wont be shot out of the back of my helicopter anymore, but those flare changes are going to be rough. Now if only they could make jets not basically hover at 1 mph and continue to shoot me.
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VarXX posted:Just curious, have you tried disabling UPnP on your router? ubermensch posted:Well, it disables everything that isn't critical to the OS. So, if you do a clean boot and it fixes your problem then it stands to reason that the interference is third part and not bf3. If you still have the problem the issues is more likely to be bf3.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:30 |
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No porn for me tonight, just going to open up 4 of those IRNV windows and loop them. Changes in that list seem pretty solid, will be nice if Javelins aren't totally useless.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:42 |
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Smegmatron posted:There's a lot of haze in metro which barely affects the naked eye but absolutely hosed the IR scope on beta. Looks like its a reversion to that and then some. It's alright to nerf the IRNV, but christ that looks like they made it useless. You couldn't see poo poo in that dark tunnel. If you're going to change it like that, you might as well just remove it from the game completely.
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:47 |
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Tank shells completely destroying a helicopter that gets a little too low is either going to frustrate me when on a strafing run or make me filled with glee when in a tank. Balance!
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:55 |
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Smegmatron posted:Pack it up, IRNVailures. You're done. If this goes through like that, then the AN-94 is going to be poo poo again.  It basically is completely reliant on having a steadied scope to do it's job, and the rifle scope is 300 loving kills in. 
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| # ? Nov 30, 2011 16:56 |
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Wow, it only took a few rounds of insta-headshots, getting blinded by flashlights at daytime and pubbies yelling friend of the family constantly to realize that yes, I am in fact too old for this poo poo.
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Ilustforponydeath posted:Wow, it only took a few rounds of insta-headshots, getting blinded by flashlights at daytime and pubbies yelling friend of the family constantly to realize that yes, I am in fact too old for this poo poo. Well to be fair those flashlights actually can blind you in daytime, in real life, because that is important in this realistic game 
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Ilustforponydeath posted:Wow, it only took a few rounds of insta-headshots, getting blinded by flashlights at daytime and pubbies yelling friend of the family constantly to realize that yes, I am in fact too old for this poo poo. Xbox?
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General Battuta posted:Well to be fair those flashlights actually can blind you in daytime, in real life, because that is important in this realistic game I honestly can't tell if you're being facetious or if that's a regular smiley to you, but to me it just seems detrimental to make more annoying additions to a genre already filled to the brim with them. It's like they started adding temporarily blinding powder burn when fired upon at close range.
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