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Ashrik
Feb 9, 2009

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.

So how does the SOFLAM work? You place it down and it just laser targets things for other weapons to lock on to?

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Revolver Bunker
May 12, 2004

「この一撃にかけるっ!」


Ashrik posted:

So how does the SOFLAM work? You place it down and it just laser targets things for other weapons to lock on to?

Pretty much. It can passively lock on to targets but usually takes a while. Or you can drop it in a location, hit E to cancel out, move to somewhere safe and hit LMB to manually track targets. From what I've noticed you can get a lock on at times with it but not a target designate response. Your lock on also won't break even if they use flares but I think will break if they use ECM and go out of the line of sight for more then a few seconds.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011


ubermensch posted:

I will also note that I won't play a BF2143 with modern graphics simply because I don't care for sci-fi games. I like my sci-fi books and movies, but I don't really care for pulse rifles, plasma bombs and hover tanks in my FPS. It's just dumb. I didn't necessarily remember 2142 being terrible, I just remember it being uninteresting.
Of these, 2142 only had hovertanks, which were actually really nice because the two faction tanks handled differently. I much prefer when games are balanced by "different but awesome in their own way" versus "palette/model swaps of each other" and having a normal modern-style tank vs a hovertank with a fixed turret was pretty awesome. That, the cloaking device, and the EMP grenades were the biggest scifi devices, and all improved gameplay significantly.

2142 was the best Battlefield.

Ashrik posted:

So how does the SOFLAM work? You place it down and it just laser targets things for other weapons to lock on to?
You place it, then automatically start controlling it. You very slowly can move it to lase targets, or you can stop using it, run to cover, and control it from there. If you're not controlling it, it will lase targets automatically, but really, really badly.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



Ravenfood posted:

Of these, 2142 only had hovertanks, which were actually really nice because the two faction tanks handled differently. I much prefer when games are balanced by "different but awesome in their own way" versus "palette/model swaps of each other" and having a normal modern-style tank vs a hovertank with a fixed turret was pretty awesome. That, the cloaking device, and the EMP grenades were the biggest scifi devices, and all improved gameplay significantly.

2142 was the best Battlefield.
I love how the cloaking device by all rights was actually really terrible because it made a really loud noise and before they patched it so you just made a small blur, it was a predator style distortion which was really easy to see. Yet it still worked well because most players are idiots who are deaf apparently.

On that note, I got knifed earlier, and in the kill cam I noticed that there was a friendly literally behind the dude who knifed me, and he just loving sat there in his corner watching the entire time.

Dr Abobo
Mar 29, 2006

Sit down, son.


Tokubetsu posted:

Is there anything better than hitting a soflam'd heli with a javelin? No, there isn't. I love all you goons who drop that poo poo. You're the best. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise <3

I fly choppers all the time, probably my favorite part of Battlefield ever since the Desert Combat mod. That being said, there is NOTHING better in this game then locking onto a chopper with the CITV station in a tank, the chopper trying to run and popping flares and getting popped by a guided missle/javelin. I giggle every single time those flares are popped.

Dr Abobo
Mar 29, 2006

Sit down, son.


e; double post fail

Threep
Apr 1, 2006

It's kind of a long story.

Insert name here posted:

I love how the cloaking device by all rights was actually really terrible because it made a really loud noise and before they patched it so you just made a small blur, it was a predator style distortion which was really easy to see. Yet it still worked well because most players are idiots who are deaf apparently.
Yeah, I get tons of MAV roadkills and its sound is so penetrating it's impossible not to hear.

TheRationalRedditor
Jul 17, 2000

WHO ABUSED HIM. WHO ABUSED THE BOY.


afkmacro posted:

The giveaway is the number of Nemesis ribbons, he farmed those off with a bunch of people who were doing the same.
You are correct! What a bag of poo poo, haha.

Zylen
Mar 25, 2005

The third time, the exception becomes the rule

"5 Squad Deathmatch wins? That can't be that hard, I don't understand what all the bitching in the thread is about. Even playing solo it's just a matter of time. I'll have them done in one nights worth of play."

2 days and 0 wins later.

"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF"

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011


Insert name here posted:

I love how the cloaking device by all rights was actually really terrible because it made a really loud noise and before they patched it so you just made a small blur, it was a predator style distortion which was really easy to see. Yet it still worked well because most players are idiots who are deaf apparently.

On that note, I got knifed earlier, and in the kill cam I noticed that there was a friendly literally behind the dude who knifed me, and he just loving sat there in his corner watching the entire time.
Even after they patched it was still really obvious. Still, it was occasionally useful for squadleaders trying to backcap something if you had friendlies running about 10 feet behind you to avoid the splash from rockets. I loved how they thought to make it react to EMP too, that was pretty clever. Hell, the way EMPs could be a poor-man's flashbang was pretty cool too.

Oh rockets. I really think has no idea what makes their games interesting, because those assault rockets were insanely overpowered and changed pretty much everything about the game once Northern Strike and the clip of 4 came out. 3 rocket clips weren't bad since it took 2 to kill someone, but that extra rocket and the extra magazine just...insane. Come to think of it, the mechanism that rockets used was similar in some ways to d2.0, since it effectively removed some types of cover.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



I loved how the EMPs made your HUD go all haywire and when you tried to cloak you went rainbow coloured. poo poo owned.

Also lol those rockets.

why halo thar
Jan 21, 2007


Zylen posted:

"5 Squad Deathmatch wins? That can't be that hard, I don't understand what all the bitching in the thread is about. Even playing solo it's just a matter of time. I'll have them done in one nights worth of play."

I hope people have realized that one can filter squad deathmatch servers by numerous settings through battlelog, including but not limited to infantry only... It doesn't redeem the game mode by any means nor does it solve any problems regarding bad pubbie teammates, but I imagine that might do away with getting destroyed by the lone IFV.

rizuhbull
Mar 30, 2011





:/

rizuhbull fucked around with this message at Dec 17, 2011 around 00:52

Revitalized
Sep 13, 2007

A free custom title is a free custom title

16 more SQDM wins to go

Vimes
Jul 9, 2001


Air burst grenades, aim at cover roll up a tick and fire above multikill. Baiting a gunship with a couple rockets so he pops his shield and fires at you hitting yours and then unloading the rest when his goes down. Drop pods. The first dog tags. Power sliding tanks. Still a bf mod, its worth a pack with about the same amount of content as btk.

ghetto wormhole
Sep 15, 2008


gently caress the Voss right in the rear end though. 2142 was an incredible game but that gun ruined it a little for me.

Sudo Echo
Mar 1, 2011



Insert name here posted:

I loved how the EMPs made your HUD go all haywire and when you tried to cloak you went rainbow coloured. poo poo owned.

Also lol those rockets.

Walkers were also a ridiculous amount of fun, especially the EU walker on Cerbere Landing.

Oh and the jets worked like the F-35 should work. You could hover with them just fine and then fly off. Maybe DICE should go look at the 2142 code to figure out how to make non-lovely aircraft again.

Voss L-AR wasn't that bad, real pros used the Krylov anyways. The PK missiles were loving fantastic as well. They also patched the Clark 12-B late in the game to make it not completely awful and it was a whole barrel of fun as well. Shottys rule.

Active Defense being on all the large vehicles was excellent as well, it negated the need for a bunch of different types of tracking/defense and was simply a single get out of jail free card. It was also incredibly obvious when someone was using it, unlike say ECM jamming. Timing it in tank vs. tank battles was great, you could see the shell coming towards you and hit it at the last second *thwooom* and shoot right back.

Really 2142 in the Frostbite 2.0 engine would be the perfect BF game.

Obnoxious Brit
Feb 16, 2008

Absolutely unbearable


Have they patched the guided shell - main gun double tap?

Because recently when I've done it, both shells just sort of vanish out of my gun and I take two hits without responding which means my tank is toast.

Obnoxious Brit fucked around with this message at Dec 17, 2011 around 01:18

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011


ghetto wormhole posted:

gently caress the Voss right in the rear end though. 2142 was an incredible game but that gun ruined it a little for me.
The best part is that it wasn't the best AR. The Krylov took that award with a better ttk, accuracy, burst-fire accuracy, and pretty much everything except ammo size and spray-pray fire at very close range. It took having slight trigger discipline and not just opening fire and holding the trigger at anything you saw, but if you did, it was by far superior. I loved having a full squad of EU soldiers scouring the ground after wiping enemies and bitching every time the assault kits they picked up had the Voss or Baur.

Actually, a good example of gun balance. Everyone thought the Voss was top because it was the best if you couldn't handle manually bursting. Once you got that, the Krylov immediately started being able to kill faster at further ranges than the Voss. The SCAR wasn't awful either if you realized that crouching did nothing to aid your accuracy and it had the best accuracy on the move.

Vatek
Nov 4, 2009

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

Some of us used the Baur, a real man's gun.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



E: ^^^^^^Baur Bros

law abiding rapist posted:

Voss L-AR wasn't that bad, real pros used the Krylov anyways.
Baur fo' lyfe Also the EU pistol was a cool future revolver. Actually all the EU weapons were awesome looking; they were all boxy yet futuristic looking as opposed to a more sleek look that most "future weapons" seem to like to do.

Sudo Echo
Mar 1, 2011



I also liked that the unlock sniper rifle, the Zeller, was incredibly bad and the stock rifles were way better. 3 rounds before reloading, with a lower ROF than the AT weapons? So bad.

Mental Midget
Apr 18, 2005

"Oh, no, I feel great. I just ordered some more vitamins. I see you were exercising. So was I. I taped '20 Minute Workout' and played it back at high speed so it only took ten minutes and I got a really good workout. You wanna come in and have a mineral water or something?"

I'm at a probably 1-4 ratio of games that actually finish properly after the expansion. The servers are just constantly crashing crashing crashing. On top of that, there just seems to be a ton less servers available. AM I missing some kind of server setting that's showing me less servers?

Edit: Yay now that I finally finish a map, the next one is on the "Stuck on loading" bullshit. This blows I'm bored of Skyrim cant I just unlock my FAMAS already?

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009


Can anyone tell me what the point of the suppressors is? I mean yeah, it silences your shots but with 6000 other guns going off at the same time what difference does it make? BF3 isnt a sneaky spec ops game. And the suppressors lower accuracy? Well that sucks...

Threep
Apr 1, 2006

It's kind of a long story.

Mental Midget posted:

I'm at a probably 1-4 ratio of games that actually finish properly after the expansion. The servers are just constantly crashing crashing crashing. On top of that, there just seems to be a ton less servers available. AM I missing some kind of server setting that's showing me less servers?
It shows a limited number each time so you have to keep refreshing to see all

Now that queueing is back I wish there was a "Full" filter.

Charliegrs posted:

Can anyone tell me what the point of the suppressors is? I mean yeah, it silences your shots but with 6000 other guns going off at the same time what difference does it make? BF3 isnt a sneaky spec ops game. And the suppressors lower accuracy? Well that sucks...
Suppressors are actually more accurate when aimed (less recoil), they just have quicker damage drop-off and slower travel speed. Also not showing on the minimap is pretty drat useful at times.

Threep fucked around with this message at Dec 17, 2011 around 01:29

Mental Midget
Apr 18, 2005

"Oh, no, I feel great. I just ordered some more vitamins. I see you were exercising. So was I. I taped '20 Minute Workout' and played it back at high speed so it only took ten minutes and I got a really good workout. You wanna come in and have a mineral water or something?"

Charliegrs posted:

Can anyone tell me what the point of the suppressors is? I mean yeah, it silences your shots but with 6000 other guns going off at the same time what difference does it make? BF3 isnt a sneaky spec ops game. And the suppressors lower accuracy? Well that sucks...

It's a trade-off bro, kind of like how you can get onion rings with your Burger King value meal but you need to pay a little bit more.

Alehkhs
Oct 6, 2010

The Sorrow of Poets


Charliegrs posted:

Can anyone tell me what the point of the suppressors is? I mean yeah, it silences your shots but with 6000 other guns going off at the same time what difference does it make? BF3 isnt a sneaky spec ops game. And the suppressors lower accuracy? Well that sucks...

Unsuppressed weapons appear on the mini-map... that's about it as far as I know?

Revitalized
Sep 13, 2007

A free custom title is a free custom title

Charliegrs posted:

Can anyone tell me what the point of the suppressors is? I mean yeah, it silences your shots but with 6000 other guns going off at the same time what difference does it make? BF3 isnt a sneaky spec ops game. And the suppressors lower accuracy? Well that sucks...

When you fire a gun without a suppressor, you show up on the minimap for a second.

Therefore if you plan to make flanking maneuvers or something of the sort then they give you that edge.

washow
Dec 1, 2007

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Mental Midget : You have to be more specific with the battlelog filters. It shows limited number of servers so if you make it all broad like that, it'll show you lovely empty servers. Check like ~ 10 free slots and check your game size. Lots of good servers will pop up

Also on FAMAS, holy poo poo this gun is better than aek! So loving accurate!

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



Charliegrs posted:

Can anyone tell me what the point of the suppressors is? I mean yeah, it silences your shots but with 6000 other guns going off at the same time what difference does it make? BF3 isnt a sneaky spec ops game. And the suppressors lower accuracy? Well that sucks...
You don't show up on the minimap when you shoot with a suppressor on. Additionally, it only reduces your hip fire accuracy; your vertical recoil is reduced and aimed accuracy is increased.

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009


Insert name here posted:

You don't show up on the minimap when you shoot with a suppressor on. Additionally, it only reduces your hip fire accuracy; your vertical recoil is reduced and aimed accuracy is increased.

oh crap I had no idea! Now the suppressors sound appealing to me. And to think Ive been unsuppressed this whole time...

rizuhbull
Mar 30, 2011



rizuhbull posted:



:/
Now you're just being intentionally obnoxious, Origin Chat...

Cmdr. Shepard
Jan 10, 2007


Charliegrs posted:

oh crap I had no idea! Now the suppressors sound appealing to me. And to think Ive been unsuppressed this whole time...

Once you run suppressed, you'll wonder why you never did.

Suppressed AEK is a death laser.

Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008


What are the controls for the MAV? I just started to play recon tonight and I have no way to decrease in altitude.

I've heard it's C... no luck.

I've heard it's LCtrl... no luck.

I'm pretty sure I've tried every key on my keyboard. Does fly downward share a keybinding with another command I'm overlooking?

Revitalized
Sep 13, 2007

A free custom title is a free custom title

Wildtortilla posted:

What are the controls for the MAV? I just started to play recon tonight and I have no way to decrease in altitude.

I've heard it's C... no luck.

I've heard it's LCtrl... no luck.

I'm pretty sure I've tried every key on my keyboard. Does fly downward share a keybinding with another command I'm overlooking?

it's C for me, which is my crouch button.

Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008


Revitalized posted:

it's C for me, which is my crouch button.

My crouch is LCtrl and I can hold that son of a bitch all day and my MAV stays up in the air.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



Wildtortilla posted:

My crouch is LCtrl and I can hold that son of a bitch all day and my MAV stays up in the air.
Are you using toggle or hold crouch? I hear the MAV doesn't respond to the toggle crouch key and you have to use the hold crouch key to drop it.

Cmdr. Shepard posted:

Once you run suppressed, you'll wonder why you never did.

Suppressed AEK is a death laser.
I refuse to run suppressors on most of my guns because I like making loud sounds with my guns; suppressors just make your guns sound wimpy and lame

Revitalized
Sep 13, 2007

A free custom title is a free custom title

Insert name here posted:


I refuse to run suppressors on most of my guns because I like making loud sounds with my guns; suppressors just make your guns sound wimpy and lame

Can't get my knife kills if they know I'm comin

Vatek
Nov 4, 2009

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

I don't use them because then I couldn't take extended mags. I use a suppressed pistol if I feel like being sneaky.

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Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008


Insert name here posted:

Are you using toggle or hold crouch? I hear the MAV doesn't respond to the toggle crouch key and you have to use the hold crouch key to drop it.

I use toggle crouch. Thanks .

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