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iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!




Release dates
PSN: October 18 (Out now!)
PC (Steam): October 20 (Out now too!)

Price
PSN: $19.99 (free if you pre-ordered all the PSN PLAY promotion games)
Steam: Same price, but there's also a 4-pack that comes out to $15/person.

What is this?
Payday: The Heist is a 4-player cooperative FPS that puts you as a member of a criminal team looking to pull off some daring heists, whether it be breaking into a hardened bank vault or setting up a hit and run on an armored car parade. In each heist your team will have to work together to complete several objectives while fending off increasingly threatening waves of law enforcement, all while keeping your hostages cool and your head cooler.

tl;dr Think Left 4 Dead meets HEAT.

Gameplay
Payday has six different heists spread out over four difficulties: easy, normal, hard and overkill. Higher difficulties give you more heists to choose from but are also harder to pull off, and playing earlier heists on a higher difficulty will reflect this as well.

While all four “characters” play identically the same, each player can customize themselves by gaining reputation (basically XP, shown as cash) in one of three classes. Classes can be changed freely during a heist and players can even mix and match their layout before a heist starts.

Assault: The “lots o' bullets” class. Playing assault unlocks an ammo bag to keep teammates stocked and can be upgraded to hold more ammo. Assault also gets access to weapons like machine guns.
Sharpshooter: Sharpshooter can use trip mines to set up a nasty surprise for any cops rushing through a doorway, and also get access to precision weapons like sniper rifles.
Support: Support can use a doctor bag to let teammates patch themselves up and uses more specialized weapons made for dishing out big damage to specific targets, like revolvers and shotguns.

Some upgrades in each class also have an overall reputation cap you have to meet before moving on, encouraging you to play as different classes.

Payday also uses a challenge system that keeps track of several accolades during the course of your career, such as gunning down so many cops with a certain weapon or completing special tasks. These grant additional reputation and sometimes trophies/achievements.

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iastudent fucked around with this message at Oct 20, 2011 around 21:53

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iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


PSN ID list
iastudent - KitchenGun
Mouser - Mousermadness
bushisms.txt - tamegaminggod
Green Puddin - HappyPantsDance
rizuhbull - JayRiot
grass - Vault_13_dweller
X_ThePerfect - X_ThePerfect
Seymour Buttz - CASTATOR
Oatgan - Thrillis0205

Steam list
Check out the Steam group Goons: The Heist for partners.

KNOW YOUR ENEMY
Guards/uniformed cops/gangers: The first responders and the most basic type of law enforcement/opposition. Carries only pistols and no protection.

FBI: The next step up, they are armed with pistols and kevlar vests.

SWAT: The most common type of opposition once a heist is in full swing. Almost fully armored and carries either submachine guns or shotguns.

Sniper: SWAT officers camped out on rooftops and high places. Their shots do big damage but leave a trail as well.

Shield: A specialty SWAT unit, uses a bulletproof riot shield with notches he can shoot back with a pistol through. Flank around them to take them down.

Cloaker: Stealthy-looking guys with Splinter Cell-style nightvision goggles. They can throw smoke grenades to obscure your vision (but not theirs and the other cops) and take more damage than a regular SWAT to kill. Whatever you do, do not try to melee them!

Taser: Heavily padded and distinguishable by the yellow highlights on his suit. Uses a taser gun to incapacitate teammates and leave them vulnerable to enemy fire. Kill him to free someone caught in his current.

Bulldozer: The "tank" of law enforcement. Fully clad from head to toe in heavy body armor and carries a pump-action shotgun. Focus fire is necessary to take them down. Their helmets will also crack with repeated hits and leave them open to headshots.

FRIENDLY ADVICE
-If you have a mic, USE IT! This is a heavily team-oriented game and being able to tell people where to go or that you're pinned down can be very important at times.

-Use R2 to mark toughter enemies (highlights them in red) like shields and bulldozers.

-Cuffing hostages is important for two reasons. One, you can use them to trade for any teammates that are arrested (killed). Two, extra hostages at the end of a heist give you a reputation bonus. Remember to use R2 to force them onto the ground first.

iastudent fucked around with this message at Oct 27, 2011 around 16:14

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

it's so magical



Honestly, I've got my eyes on this. Kane and Lynch's multiplayer was fantastic, though rather predictable after a while. Even minus the betrayal of other players I'm definitely on board with this.

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


The second heist is my favorite so far. They even call it "Heat Street".

Also my cooperation with others has improved dramatically since I found my bluetooth mic.

Kelp Plankton
Aug 5, 2007

My CoX will forever blast giant streams of liquid!

This sounds like a really fun game to play with friends, especially due to, concept-wise, there not being anything else that's centered around bank robbery as far as I know.

How many cops are thrown at you though? Is this frantic and fast-paced, with you mowing down dozens or hundreds of officers? Or is this a little more realistically set up with smaller squads and more strategic choices?

Either is good, they're just different kinds of games and I'm not sure which one this is.

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


You start with a couple guards/cops and during the heists there's "assault" waves of tougher ones. Also you generally face tougher enemies the further you are into a heist.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

it's so magical



Is their customisation for the characters (vanity!), or is it just equipment/perks/stuff?

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


Just equipment/perks/stuff. Sadly there is no create-a-mask feature... yet.

Revitalized
Sep 13, 2007

A free custom title is a free custom title

I always enjoyed coop shooters, and left4dead always had a nice charm about it.

I hope the PC version isn't terribly obvious about being a console port (or even better, not a console port!) Oh nice they have a 4pack too.

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


So I just figured out that shooting civilians not only gives you a money penalty after the heist, it also makes the negotiation time when a teammate is arrested longer... oops.

JGBeagle
Mar 7, 2010



I've been looking forward to this game only to find out it's not on XBLA.

Oh well.

Ddraig
Sep 5, 2005

Sits with a full house

I really, really wish they would let you betray your teammates for a bigger "cut" of the cash.

The best part of Fragile Alliance with K&L was never knowing who was going to try and take the money and run and trying to figure out if people were legit or not.

Part of the fun of Heist movies like this (which is what they're emulating) is that you never know who is against you and human greed conquers all. See: Any Tarantino movie ever.

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


There's always the chance they could make a Fragile Alliance mode into DLC. I want this so badly

Also I just finished the Green Bridge heist with a reputation of 20 and some more heist-specific challenges popped up on my list. That's cool if it unlocks more challenges for you as you level up.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008



Is there any randomness to the heists when you replay them? I really enjoyed playing L4D2 with friends but once you were familiar with the levels, I got really bored when you ended up just trying to do the run slightly better or with a gimmick since it was pretty much always the same.

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


The objectives stay constant but there's some randomness to them. Like with the aforementioned Green Bridge, which prison car has the prisoner is random each time you play.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006

O, for a muse of fire

I've been really looking forward to this game. Glad to see there is some goon interest for it. Last I heard they were aiming for a release of the PC version for this Friday

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


PS3 goons, let's rob some banks tonight. I'll be on and off through tonight, add me as KitchenGun.

Mouser..
Apr 1, 2010



iastudent posted:

PS3 goons, let's rob some banks tonight. I'll be on and off through tonight, add me as KitchenGun.

I bought the game and was enamored by the entire Heat atmosphere running throughout the game. I look forward to playing through it with other people. So I'll add you and run through some heists when I get a chance if I see you on.

PSN ID: Mousermadness

scamtank
Feb 24, 2011

my desire to just be a FUCKING IDIOT all day long is rapidly overtaking my ability to FUNCTION

i suspect that means i'm MENTALLY ILL


So hold on. This isn't terrible shovelware at all?

Batham
Jun 19, 2010

Cluster bombing from B-52s is very, very accurate. The bombs are guaranteed to always hit the ground.


scamtank posted:

So hold on. This isn't terrible shovelware at all?
Most of the reviews I've read say that it has its share of rough edges, but that it's mostly good fun in the end.

edit: Some examples of said rough edges.
- Ammo is scarce near the end of a "stage" because it's difficult to obtain extra.
- The game has the same "director" system as L4D, but goes overzealous at times and really wants you loving dead. Skynet 2011.
- When the poo poo hits the fan and you're a few guys down, its hard to bounce back.

*Keep in mind that many mainstream game journalists are bad at playing video games.

Batham fucked around with this message at Oct 20, 2011 around 02:19

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010

Midgets be packing some Space-Age shit!



Any goons be down for a 4 pack on the PC version?

Didn't think it looked amazing at first, and didn't like the game, but suddenly craving this style of game.

elite_garbage_man
Apr 3, 2010


ELITE PENS FOR AN ELITE GARBAGE MAN

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I'll be down for a 4 pack.

Anatharon
Aug 6, 2010



Rookersh posted:

Any goons be down for a 4 pack on the PC version?

Didn't think it looked amazing at first, and didn't like the game, but suddenly craving this style of game.

If it'll run on my computer, (Which I will check in a little bit) I would be.

Batham
Jun 19, 2010

Cluster bombing from B-52s is very, very accurate. The bombs are guaranteed to always hit the ground.


Ditto.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Batham

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


So word from a dev apparently is that Payday releases on Steam tomorrow.

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.

iastudent posted:

So word from a dev apparently is that Payday releases on Steam tomorrow.

Yep. I'm actually kind of pleasantly surprised that they managed to get it out so soon.

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010

Midgets be packing some Space-Age shit!



http://steamcommunity.com/id/Nals

Batham/Anatharon/elite_garbage_man, add me, once Anatharon either confirms it'll work, or someone else hops in, I'll buy the four pack, you all gimme your :tenbux: ( $15 ), and then I'll gift it out.

Jombo
Feb 20, 2009


God drat, after seeing this thread and checking out the release date for Australia (the 19th according to http://au.playstation.com/psn/games...4%A2-The-Heist/) I switched on the ps3 to buy it only to be met with nothing but trailers

Do they mean like lunchtime on the 19th in the US or something?

edit: wait... it's already the 20th, me gud with dates. I guess I must wait for the random release time then.

Jombo fucked around with this message at Oct 20, 2011 around 03:46

Batham
Jun 19, 2010

Cluster bombing from B-52s is very, very accurate. The bombs are guaranteed to always hit the ground.


Rookersh posted:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Nals

Batham/Anatharon/elite_garbage_man, add me, once Anatharon either confirms it'll work, or someone else hops in, I'll buy the four pack, you all gimme your :tenbux: ( $15 ), and then I'll gift it out.
I'm going to bed now, so I'll be out for a while

MC2552John
Oct 4, 2011

Being jaded about something is so cool. You're just as useless as everybody else, but you get to be irritating and bitter about it.


I have the game pre-ordered. This was $18, and Batman Arkham City was $40 (its only $40 if you own LEGO Batman or Arkham Asylum), and I bit the lure. loving Steam, raping my wallet like it's going out of style.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/MC2552John/

Add me if you want to make some mad cash money.
God that came out awful.

Tokubetsu
Dec 17, 2007

Love Is Not Enough


Moartoast posted:

Yep. I'm actually kind of pleasantly surprised that they managed to get it out so soon.

Definitely excited about this but I've been burned by so many PC games on release day lately I'm gonna wait for some goon impressions. Really excited about this though. I liked GRIN ='(

Jombo
Feb 20, 2009


gah, they just changed the aussie release date on psn from 2 days ago to TBC

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006

O, for a muse of fire

http://steamcommunity.com/id/kingmonsters

I'm up for robbing banks when this releases today so anyone who wants to add me

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006

O, for a muse of fire

For anyone waiting, you can now install PAYDAY!

Caralad
Aug 13, 2007

Clanker loooves garbage

Is there any footage of this game in action out there beside trailers? I'd like to get a good idea of what it looks/plays like before I hand over my cash.

-Dethstryk-
Oct 20, 2000


Dr. VooDoo posted:

For anyone waiting, you can now install PAYDAY!

If anyone else is having trouble, restart Steam and your install button should be there.

Syndlig
Oct 1, 2008



http://steamcommunity.com/id/syndlig

Currently downloading, $18 was too good a deal to pass up.

Gordong Dongbay
Oct 18, 2007



I can't even get the game to launch. Click Play and it just brings up a box saying the engine has stopped working.

-Dethstryk-
Oct 20, 2000


LAWLandMine posted:

I can't even get the game to launch. Click Play and it just brings up a box saying the engine has stopped working.

Mine went through the DX install process, but now clicking play... nothing happens. I should have known better than to try to play this one after how hilariously bad this launch was.

Edit: I restarted Steam again, and for some reason that worked. Not giving me high hopes, though.

-Dethstryk- fucked around with this message at Oct 20, 2011 around 17:59

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Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

For your safety, please stay in the designated FUN TIME area


Could somebody give me a quick rundown on how a typical round looks like? I'm kinda tempted but I'm not actually sure what to expect gameplay-wise.

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