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VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Watched it twice. Between that and this thread (thank God for you guys, seriously, I had no idea about the whole 'Green Sun being created' thing there) I think I got everything, but one thing is still sticking in my craw.

This page vaguely describes the circumstances of Jack's arrival in the Trolls' session.

Doc Scratch posted:

The Slayer was, for the moment, unmotivated by the Thief's motion for a compelling duel. This side of The Scratch, he opted for a more ruthless and calculating policy of extermination. On his arrival, not about to repeat the mistakes leading to his banishment, he quickly obliterated all twelve planets, followed by Prospit and Derse, to weed out those who might outsmart him in the same manner.

That doesn't really gel with the flash, the way I saw it, but it's possible I'm just interpreting either the flash or this page wrong. In general, I'm sorta foggy on why he stuck himself in the time capsule and murdered all the exiles in the first place. How did he know it would plant him in the Trolls' universe where he could get a shot at Bilious Slick? And why were the exiles blowing up the stations in the first place? To try and make sure Jack wouldn't be able to show up and use them?

Help.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2011 10:11

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# ¿ May 24, 2013 11:29

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Hussie once said something to the effect of "I consider Act 5 to be THE BIG MOTHERFUCKER OF HOMESTUCK".

The man has a way with words, but even that seems woefully inadequate.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2011 20:39

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Dr Snofeld posted:

I'm not getting this Aradia is evil vibe that everyone else is, did I miss something?

I think it's partially because the look she has when Rose and Dave come out of the meteor is a little

and sinister-looking, and partially because of what we just learned regarding her ancestor and her role as a servant of Lord English.

Basically, we're scared that Aradia, Dave and Rose might now be chumps for Lord English. I sorta doubt that, I more think that Lord English might use TIME CLONES of the dead trolls and guardians or whatever at some point, though.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2011 21:04

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Red2401 posted:

Speculating some more, I can only hope the Vriska which beat Jack in a split timeline sees everything and arrives at the green sun at around the same time as John(or Terezi). The comic says another timeline went through Terezi's coinflip, so this could be a thing. Also, foreshadowing this:

Oh poo poo, I really like this theory.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2011 22:00

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

H.P. Shivcraft posted:

For anyone not on Tumblr or who hasn't subscribed to Hussie's yet, he put up the first part of a write-up about the EoA5 flash-making process.

The idea that he could've done this in four weeks if the Flash errors hadn't cost him some time just blows me the gently caress away.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2011 05:52

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Walliard posted:

He wasn't Jade's guardian, Bec was.

Anyhow, he probably just went back to Earth through a defense portal or something after picking up Dream Jade's body. What isn't explained is how he got into the Medium in the first place.

Maybe the defense portals go both ways!

The fact that we never saw Jade's grandpa go through a defense portal back to Earth makes me think him and his ship might be somewhere, shrunken down with the rest of the Incipisphere. Which might be a paradox, but who gives a poo poo, the universe just got destroyed and reset at the same time.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2011 07:50

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

SynthOrange posted:

Grandpa got shot to death, remember?

In a universe that just blew up and got reset. If the pre-Scratch Troll ancestor's can technically never actually have been born, then Grandpa can probably cheat death.

Walliard posted:

That sounds like a recipe for crashing into a meteor.

More like a recipe for a meteor that didn't know who it was loving with in your trophy cabinet.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2011 08:10

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Starmaker posted:

Are you sure about that?

That is an absolutely preposterous amount of Daves.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2011 09:04

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Major Characters That Jack Noir Hasn't Killed:
1. Peregrine Mendicant
2. Grandpa Harley
3. Becquerel
4. Andrew Hussie
?. Vriska Serket - this is in the maybe pile, depending on whether or not Slick (who is technically Jack Noir!) breaking that God Tier clock killed Vriska or not.

Jack Noir has killed literally every other major character in this comic. A lot of them more than once.

Hussie's explanation about Bec Noir's trip makes a hell of a lot more sense to me now - he didn't really know where he was going or what would happen when he got there, he just kept going "Oh poo poo, this universe is dying better get out of dodge" and "Oh look, dudes.

" respectively until he got to Bilious Slick.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2011 21:30

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

I'm not gonna delude myself into thinking that Hussie knew any of the events of Cascade two and a half years ago (okay, he probably knew broad "Jack Noir murders everyone" and "The Scratch happens" stuff), but really, the degree to which he kept all of this poo poo so heavily interconnected while still leaving it pretty legitimately easy to understand if you pay attention, not to mention the guy's insane work ethic is all worthy of praise.

Basically,

YggiDee posted:

Ooh! Jack Noir also probably hasn't killed Nanna Egbert! Yet.

Oh yeah. I guess technically he hasn't killed Jaspers either. Davesprite would count, but he's already killed two Daves by this point.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2011 22:38

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Fiction posted:

Can we talk more about Volume 8? A lot of the songs on there are really great and the art is fantastic as well. I'm especially liking Fef's theme and (duh) Cascade.

Personally, I'm over the goddamn moon that Gardener finally got a release.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2011 23:09

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

YggiDee posted:

I'm a little wary of the idea as a whole, because if Theoretical Beta Vriska didn't win her fight, then there would be a goddamn Beta Jack Noir coming in for another round of stabs.

Nah. If Jack beats Vriska, he just goes on to killing Bilious Slick, PM shows up after him, they're at the same point they are in the EoA.

Actually, it occurs to me that even if he's in a beta timeline, Jack HAS to use Red Miles on Bilious Slick at some point, since he already went to Earth and saw it being used, which made him escape to the troll universe.

Or maybe he doesn't have to because that's the entire point of a beta timeline.

Or maybe my head hurts now.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2011 02:27

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

I'm wagering we start with an introduction to J and spend a week or two on new kids before we even see those douchebags from the OLD acts again.

I mean, how long was Jade falling for?

# ¿ Nov 11, 2011 05:45

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

I'm waiting for Hussie to tweet "playin skyrim kindly gently caress off tia".

# ¿ Nov 11, 2011 07:22

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

CidGregor posted:

Is that a Spoonkind strife specibus card I see? If so, how the heck do you weaponize spoons? o_O

You ever see the first episode of Spongebob? I imagine it's a lot like that.

quote:

this SPECIAL DATE, 11.11.11, i.e. 2X3PRONG DAY (WHATEVER THAT MEANS), a date exhibiting just the sort of numerical gimmick corporations love to exploit for their big releases

I refuse to be unconvinced that this is anything but a swipe at Skyrim.

EDIT: I will say that while I completely expected the act to start this way (really, there was no other way this was gonna start and anybody who really thought this was gonna open with the kids and trolls again was just kinda deluding themselves), a couple things significantly threw me, as is always the way with Hussie:
1. The kids are apparently 15 in this one. I like it. The first crop of kids always reminded me of sarcastic 15-16 year olds anyway.
2. Empire? Only one of her race? What the fuuuuuck is goin' on here.

VJeff fucked around with this message at Nov 11, 2011 around 09:32

# ¿ Nov 11, 2011 09:28

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Zorak posted:

I have to wonder how Hussie is going to pace Act 6 with this "new world stuff" that won't make it tiring since we've gone through this thing like twice now basically. It's neat in the implications and where he can go with it, but the directions will ultimately be tempered one way or another by the need to keep it moving with some level of alacrity lest the whole crew ends up off screen for like six months again.

He's got four introductions to convey as many bulletpoints as possible. From there, I'm reasonably sure we'll probably be able to figure out the rest ourselves. I have a few guesses as to what we're dealing with here already (troll empire rules the planet, maybe somewhat benevolently, but probably not), but I could be way off course.

Cukel posted:

So I guess this is the scratched session and we're looking at a version of Nanna? If so, I'm surprised that for once the speculation before an update turned out to be pretty much correct!

As far as guesses go, this one was roughly as difficult as the 4x Corpsesmooch combo.

# ¿ Nov 11, 2011 09:40

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Roger Explosion posted:

Oh that's right. I wonder what "Mom" is like as a 16 year old girl? Probably trouble.

The real reason that these kids are older is because a 13 year old on the bottle was a little much, even for Hussie.

# ¿ Nov 11, 2011 09:48

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Boneless Jogger posted:

You know, I just noticed...

Those who said that the post scratch world would be more vicious like the Troll's post scratch might be right.

Jane seems to think the empire is pretty fuckin' aces, so it's possible it's not necessarily a bad, vicious empire.

Having said that, I wouldn't exactly put more money on that than Jane just being sorta sheltered.

# ¿ Nov 11, 2011 09:55

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

DaveKap posted:

Interesting thing to note.
Act 5:2 started with the song Homestuck: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004526
Act 6 starts with the song Homestuck Anthem: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006013
Homestuck and Homestuck Anthem are the bookends for Volume 5 and the bookends for Act 5:2.

I noticed this. It's the small things that get me, really.

Cheeseball IV posted:

I wonder if the USS Harley will be entering through that fourth wall in Mom's lab.

I'm wagering J told her to have the fourth wall ready for exactly that purpose.

# ¿ Nov 11, 2011 10:05

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Yonic Symbolism posted:

Yeah, I feel like we've done the introductions twice now and already have more characters than I could care about.

I was hoping that things could be simple and direct for once and we could immediately go on to everyone vs Lord English now that everyone was in the same place and that both universes were out of the picture.

Exactly how long did you expect this act to be.

Renaissance Robot posted:

Jane's specific pose also seems to be a callback to Karkat/Vriska falling in hate/love with Egbert/Cage, for some reason. The head tilt and weightless slouch are just the same, I have no idea if it means anything though. Maybe she just really likes clouds??

Yeah, I got the callback to Karkat's pose and everything, but when done like that, it sorta just made Jane look like the type of girl that's easily outfoxed by simple utensils.

Oh hey, a new search page. For some reason, I'm really excited at the idea of a map update.

VJeff fucked around with this message at Nov 11, 2011 around 10:57

# ¿ Nov 11, 2011 10:50

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Well, that sure as gently caress is a thing that just happened.

I went

at the picture of Grandpa John. That was seriously awesome. It's the little things, really.

Roger Explosion posted:

So, the kids and the kid-versions of the guardians are going to play an 8-player session that is circumstantially simultaneous with a group of nice-trolls. If memory serves correct, trolls in the the troll session before the trolls we know (Karkat et. al) didn't have what it took to win the game. I wager this UU is a member of this first troll session, which would complete this multi-universal, mobious double-reacharound quite nicely.

And there, in the lid of the chest, is this universe's version of John. It sure is going to be weird to have both the guardian-version and the kid-version of the kids rolling around in the same universe.

Edit: this uranianUmbra is oddly Commonwealth in the way she types.

Maybe it's the Signless? I mean, with the huge and stupidly obvious juxtaposition to Karkat's first conversation with Jade and all...

I really don't dislike the idea of learning more about the pre-Scratch Troll Ancestors, but Hussie did say "That would be such a shitload of trolls!!!!!!" and he is right, that would be such a shitload of trolls.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2011 11:29

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Waffnuffly posted:

"Growing Panes Await"

Hussie never disappoints with his word choice and puns, holy crap.

I didn't get this one.

There was a question of whether there was multiple God Tiers? The way Vriska talked about it when they were first brought up, I thought it was obvious that it was another set of "rungs" on the echeladder, so to speak.

EDIT: Oh jesus, it's 'cause she made the 4th wall get bigger.

VJeff fucked around with this message at Dec 10, 2011 around 06:08

# ¿ Dec 10, 2011 06:05

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

So John and Jade are alone on a ship for three years. Presumably without even being able to talk to their friends?

That sucks. Jade's gotta unshrink Davesprite, Nannasprite and Jaspersprite at some point, in that case. If only so they have some freakin' company.

Seoinin posted:

Three years alone together sounds like a sure-fire way to make siblings completely loathe each other.

Or just the opposite.

VJeff fucked around with this message at Dec 12, 2011 around 05:50

# ¿ Dec 12, 2011 05:46

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

I thought about it, and I like the idea of Jade unshrinking the Sprites and Consorts and all of them hanging out for three years quite a bit.

They can watch Nic Cage movies at John's house. It'll be awesome.

WHAT'S SERENITY SAYING

VJeff fucked around with this message at Dec 12, 2011 around 09:31

# ¿ Dec 12, 2011 09:23

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Blood and Rage hoodies are up.

Blood is basically impossible to wear if you consider yourself a person with dignity. Rage is kinda cool.

# ¿ Dec 13, 2011 10:25

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

I have little doubt that First Guardian powers are enough to heal potentially life-ending wounds like WV's, but it would take an amount of precision that I doubt PM is capable of employing right now. Plus, some of his carapace is probably still in the other universe.

Then again, I have my doubts slapping the ring on him would save his life either. If for no other reason that it would be super loving lame to have PM put the ring on, face off with Jack in one of the most visually striking and tense moments in the comic period, and then just have her toss the ring off to WV.

# ¿ Dec 14, 2011 07:41

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Plom Bar posted:

So what do you suggest? Taking for granted that WV will survive somehow, but First Guardian powers can't save him and neither can slapping on the ring, what's left?

Bandages made from...frog...skin?

# ¿ Dec 14, 2011 13:13

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Does this mean we should go looking on tumblr and AO3 until we do find some unequivocally lovely homestuck fanfiction that we can all unanimously hate?

# ¿ Dec 16, 2011 22:23

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

YES bread posted:

Kind of like women laughing alone with salad where a single instance goes unnoticed but when you group them together like that it gets weird.

now im imagining a big ol' empty hallway wallpapered in a thousand daves cryin in the rain

At first I couldn't figure out what was supposed to be so funny about this.

Then I started scrolling down, and suddenly I couldn't breathe.

# ¿ Dec 16, 2011 23:00

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Dizz posted:

Gonna assume this will be the next panel

E: Or this V

Come on dude, you can't link that without linking the whole thing.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2011 07:27

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Davesprite is the best loving character. I hope 70% of the intermission content in Act 6 is "Davesprite gives John poo poo."

And who called Karkat's expression? I know someone did.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2011 09:29

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Uhhhhhhh.

# ¿ Dec 19, 2011 00:37

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Rooreelooo posted:

Gamzee still needs to do whatever it is he does that makes him the most important character in all of homestuck.

I don't think that was Gamzee.

Remember how during Cascade it flashed back to that panel and showed Scratch's head where Gamzee's eye was? I think it was supposed to indicate that it was Scratch, maybe? I dunno.

Anyway, Kanaya's the best and okay, I admit it I was a little

while her and Rose were talking. I wouldn't be even a little bit surprised if Kanaya killed Gamzee here. I think if anybody would be unwilling to forgive him for killing Nepeta and Equius, it'd be her.

# ¿ Dec 21, 2011 10:22

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

The way I see it, the last arrival is:
PM and WV (by far the most likely)
Jack (somewhat less likely, but still entirely possible)
Beta Vriska (loving longshot)

Crossing my fingers for Beta Vriska.

KoB posted:

Rose already talked about fighting Jack, so its weird that she would be kinda vague about who the guest is if its Jack. But then I guess shes not exactly flying off to fight him either, so Jack sorta makes sense.

And I dont think PM defeated him, or else I think Rose wouldnt bother with talking about fighting a guy thats dead.

Yeah, I didn't mean "PM beats Jack, then comes along." I more meant that PM would just show up without having fought Jack yet.

VJeff fucked around with this message at Dec 21, 2011 around 21:56

# ¿ Dec 21, 2011 21:40

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Miss Lalonde, get a handle on those eyebrows!

# ¿ Dec 23, 2011 08:22

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Plom Bar posted:

I can't believe I actually caught an easter egg without being told about it for once.

This one was a lot easier to spot than Pony Chorale.

Hussie posted:

(at the end of the flash, did you click the upper right corner?)

I asked Toby to make the song (Frustracean), mimicking the John breakdown song. And he did that.

But for some reason he put 5 minutes of silence at the end, followed by this bizarre Cage boner clip. So I�m like, ok what the gently caress am I supposed to do with this thing.

So that�s what I did with this thing.

Okay, now I'm

ing.

# ¿ Dec 23, 2011 08:28

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Roger Explosion posted:

I wager she will lob WV into her own self-portal.

Well, there you go. Not a particularly hard guess, but.

# ¿ Dec 24, 2011 04:03

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

Maybe they'll just use a potion or something on him, it is an RPG.

# ¿ Dec 24, 2011 04:17

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

NO LISTEN TO ME posted:

English sucks.

Edit: It apparently annoyed me enough to spend even more money on it.

Just because he eats universes doesn't mean you can blame him for your lovely spelling!

# ¿ Dec 30, 2011 03:21

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# ¿ May 24, 2013 11:29

VJeff: Jun 2, 2011; To whom much is given,
much is expected.

I can see how an unprototyped session might be a thing that happens - really, what's the point of setting up a Black King and Black Queen at this point, the kids would probably obliterate them.

# ¿ Dec 30, 2011 07:44

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