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 Welcome to the Portuguese League (it’s called Liga ZON Sagres but that poo poo changes every year so we just call it Primeira Liga), the 5th best league in the world and 3rd best last season, according to UEFA, and home to the most controversies you’ll find in a non South American league. This is your chance to get to know future stars so when they inevitably move to Real Madrid/Barcelona/Chelsea/City and United you’ll be able to act like a smug gently caress with your friends. Here are:  The Teams FC Porto   History: Founded in 1893, FC Porto quickly became the biggest club in northern Portugal, and one of the most important in the country; Porto has never been relegated. Historically a consistently successful team, but not at the level of Benfica, Porto’s golden era started when Pinto da Costa became president of the club in 1982. Since then, Porto has established a dominance in the league that has seen them win 10 league trophies in the last 15 seasons, including four in a row from 2005 to 2009, and along the way picked up a few European trophies. In fact, just this season FC Porto finally surpassed Benfica’s record of most trophies won, becoming the most successful club in Portugal. Three men helped in establishing Porto as a Portuguese and European powerhouse: José Mourinho, a former Benfica and Leiria coach, who from 2002 to 2004 won two league titles, one Portuguese Supercup, one Portuguese Cup, one UEFA Cup and one Champions League; Jesualdo Ferreira, who after Mourinho left made sure Porto maintained its control over the league winning 3 league titles in a row (2006-2009); and the man who replaced him, André Villas-Boas, one of Mourinho’s apprentices and former Académica manager, who in 2010 won for Porto one Portuguese Supercup, the league title, the Europa League Cup and the Portuguese Cup. This success had a price: this decade has been filled with accusations of corruption and of enticing referees by several of the club’s elements, including president Pinto da Costa, in what has become known as the Apito Dourado case. I’ll get more into it if people want me to, but this was something Portuguese people were expecting considering how some referees approached Porto matches; it later came out that many of them were bribed by Porto officials with dinners and prostitutes, and it’s possible to listen to the details of these affairs in youtube, since the wiretaps recordings have been made public. Anyway, this case resulted in Pinto da Costa being suspended for two years and Porto being docked 6 points in the 2008-2009 season, while Boavista, the other club involved in the case, was relegated to the 2nd division. Honours: FC Porto has won the Primeira Liga 25 times (second only to Benfica), the Portuguese Cup 20 times, and the Portuguese Supercup a record 18 times. Porto has won the Champions League two times (in 1987 and 2004), the UEFA Cup/Europa League two times (2003 and 2011), the European Cup Winners’ Cup (1983), the European Supercup (1987), and the Intercontinental Cup (1987 and 2004). Current Status: Surprised with Villas-Boas’ sudden departure to Chelsea, and with their 1st choice now coaching Sporting (Domingos Paciência), and their 2nd choice in Braga (Leonardo Jardim), Porto went with continuity by making Vítor Pereira, previously assistant manager, the main man. He won them the Supercup (2-0 vs Vitória Guimarães), but lost the European Supercup to Barcelona. Porto started the league well enough with 4 wins in a row, planting themselves in 1st place, but recent draws with Feirense and Benfica (after leading twice in the match) have seen their rivals Sporting and Benfica getting very close to them. This, partnered with a defeat to Zenit and a home draw with APOEL in the CL has made many Porto fans doubt Pereira’s abilities to replace Villas-Boas, but it’s probably just the team learning to cope with Falcao’s (their top goalscorer) departure to Atlético Madrid. Stadium: Estádio do Dragão, 55,000 seats, in Porto Team:  (Replace Guarín with Belluschi, Cristian Rodriguez with the suspended James Rodríguez and Walter with the injured Kléber). Manager: Vítor Pereira Star: Hulk, player of the season 2010-2011. Otamendi is a promising centre back, with Chelsea target Álvaro Pereira probably the best leftback in the league now that Fábio Coentrão left. In midfield, Moutinho is the motor while Guarín adds some steel to it. James Rodríguez is one of the kids with the most potential in Portugal and will one day be playing for Real Madrid or something, mark my words. And it’ll be interesting to see if Kléber adequately replaces Falcao. Notable Ins: Kléber (Marítimo, 2,4m), Steven Defour (Standard Liège, 6m); Alex Sandro (Santos, 10m, January only), Mangala (Liège, 6,5m) Notable Outs: Falcao (Atlético Madrid, 40m), Ruben Micael (Atlético Madrid, 5m) Captain: Helton You should root for this team if:…you love winning. SL Benfica   History: Born in 1904 in the capital Lisbon, Benfica have until very recently been the most successful club in Portugal, with more league and cup titles than any other club, thanks in part to a period of brilliance in the 60’s in which they won two CLs (thanks Eusébio). However, with Porto’s resurgence in the 80’s Benfica has seen its conquest of trophies dwindle, (although they did win the league in 2009-2010), and in the 90’s and the beginning of the 00’s Benfica was unable to compete with Porto and Sporting, achieving their worst ever position, 6th, in 2000-2001. This decadence was stopped in recent years with Benfica returning to the competition for the title, and with manager Jorge Jesus they won the title in 2009-2010, in a close race against Braga. The following season wasn’t as successful (although they won the League Cup) with Porto returning to 1st and dominating affairs, but better management and more consistency means Benfica are again a force to behold. Honours: 32 Primeira Liga wins (more than any other team), 27 Portuguese Cup wins, and three times winner of the League Cup. They have won the Portuguese Supercup a strangely meager 4 times and the Champions League (or European Cup) two times in 60-61 and 61-62 Current Status: Unlike last season, Benfica have started well and have built quite a momentum, which culminated in a 2-2 in Porto’s stadium, and are level with Porto in 1st place so they’ll be much more of a threat this time. They’re also top of their group in the CL, although nobody expects them to finish above Manchester Utd. Stadium: Estádio da Luz, 65,000 seats, in Lisboa Team:  (Maxi Pereira in for Miguel Victor, Emerson at LB, Nolito and Bruno César keep rotating) Manager: Jorge Jesus Star: Garay and Luisão are two great CBs, Maxi Pereira is probably the best rightback in Portugal, Nolito won’t stop scoring, Manchester United target Nico Gaitán is Benfica’s best player, and Cardozo, although he’s the team’s best scorer every season, isn’t really appreciated by the fans due to his lazy style Notable Ins: Nolito (Barcelona, free), Artur (Braga, free), Bruno César (Corinthians, 5,5m) Notable Outs: Nuno Gomes (Braga, free) Captain: Luisão You should root for this team if:…you want kids to get off your lawn and regularly find yourself thinking “those were the days”. Sporting CP   History: The last of the Big Three, Sporting was founded in 1906 and like their rivals Benfica and Porto has never been relegated; if you take into account all sports, Sporting is the 2nd team in Europe (after Barcelona) with the most titles. Their golden era was in the 40’s and 50’s, when they won 10 out of 18 league titles and the Five Violins shined, although European success only came in the 60’s when Sporting won the Cup Winners Cup beating Manchester Utd 5-0 on the way. However starting in the 60’s Sporting lost its luster in the domestic competitions, and was replaced at the top first by Benfica, and later by Porto. When Sporting won the title in 2000, 18 years had passed since the last triumph in the league; they won it again in 2002. Since 2002 Sporting has been content with 2nd position, allowing Porto to dominate the league, this complacency resulting in a shameful 4th spot in the 2009 season when Braga and Benfica were the main contenders. A new direction was necessary, and the new president Godinho Lopes for the 2011-2012 season promised the necessary change (not before getting punched on election day). Honours: 18 times winners of Primeira Liga, 19 times in the Portuguese Cup, Supercup winners 7 times, UEFA Cup runner-up in 2004-2005 (gently caress CSKA) Current Status: New president, a new manager (Braga’s Domingos Paciência) and 15 new players represented Sporting’s wish to compete for the title once again, but the team took its time to adapt and in the first three games only managed 2 draws and 1 loss. The pressure was on, but a 2-3 comeback at Paços de Ferreira after being down 2-0 seems to have turned things around and Sporting are now on a 8 win run and only 3 points away from 1st place. Sporting are also the first team in history to qualify for the next round in the Europa League after only 3 games, easily top of their group. Stadium: Estádio José Alvalade, 50,000 seats, in Lisboa Team:  (Onyewu and Rodriguez are the usual CB pairing, Insua for Evaldo, Elias in for André Martins, Capel instead of Matias and Wolfswinkel instead of Bojinov). Manager: Domingos Paciência Star: Rui Patrício is the national team’s 23 year old goalkeeper, benching Eduardo. Rinaudo might just be the best defensive midfielder in Portugal, while Elias is the box-to-box midfielder the team has been lacking in recent times. Diego Capel, the former Sevilla winger, is the most dangerous man in the attack while Ricky Van Wolfswinkel has 8 goals in the last 7 matches. Notable Ins: Insúa (Liverpool, free), Fito Rinaudo (Gimnasia, 250k), Elias (Atlético Madrid, 8,5m), Bojinov (Parma, 2,5m), Ricky van Wolfswinkel (Utrecht, 5,5m), Schaars (AZ Alkmaar, 850k), Diego Capel (Sevilla, 3,5m), Jeffrén (Barcelona, 3,750m). Notable Outs: Vukcevic (Blackburn), Hélder Postiga (Zaragoza, 1m), Yannick Djaló (Nice, 4m) Captain: João Pereira You should root for this team if:…you’re one cool dude. Sporting Clube de Braga   History: Founded in 1921, Braga reached the 1st division in 1947 and in the following decades kept dropping in and out of the Primeira Liga until 1975. It is only in the 00’s that Braga becomes of the biggest clubs in the North and the main opponent of the Big Three’s hegemony, with consistent top 6 finishes. This came to a head in the 2009-2010 season, when Braga finished 2nd, their best placement ever, kicking Porto to 3rd and Sporting to 4th. The following season, although Braga dropped down to 4th, the team reached the final of the Europa League beating Benfica in the process, a team that has 10 times their resources. Some people are now saying the Big Three era is over, and there are now the Big Four with Braga’s inclusion, but that’s a bit premature: Braga are yet to win a Primeira Liga title. Braga’s biggest rival is Vitória Guimarães (Derby do Minho, check Guimarães section) and the Big Three, although with Porto it’s more of a friendly rivalry. Honours: 2nd in Primeira Liga 2009-2010, runner-up in Europa League 2010-2011, Intertoto Cup winners in 2008, Portuguese Cup winners in 1966 and runner-up in three other occasions, Portuguese Supercup runner-up in 1982 and 1998. Current Status: With talisman manager Domingos Paciência leaving the club, as well as a few influential players, new coach Leonardo Jardim (former Beira-Mar manager) had the difficult task of rebuilding a team that could again fight for the top spots with meager resources. He’s done well so far in the league, since Braga are only 3 points away from 1st place, but they’ve found it hard to succeed in the Europa League, and are 3rd in their group, behind Birmingham and Brugge. Stadium: Estádio Municipal de Braga, 30,000 seats, in Braga Team:  (replace Lima with Hélder Barbosa) Manager: Leonardo Jardim Star: Hugo Viana is a classy CM, Alan is one of the most dangerous attackers in Portugal, Hélder Barbosa (former Porto player) is in great form and Nuno Gomes still knows how to score. Notable Ins: Notable Outs: Artur (Benfica, free), Sílvio (Atlético Madrid, 8m), Albert Rodríguez (Sporting CP, free), Pizzi (Atlético Madrid, loan with buy option) Captain: Alan You should root for this team if:…you’re into overachievers. C. S. Marítimo   History: One of two teams from the island of Madeira currently playing in the Primeira Liga (the other is Nacional, their biggest rivals), Marítimo was born in 1910 and since then has established a consistent presence in the first division, to the point where it has been considered by the IFFHS the 5th most successful Portuguese team of the century and top 10 is expected every season from them. Honours: 5th place in Primeira Liga 5 times, runner-up in the Portuguese Cup two times. Current Status: Marítimo has been one of the positive surprises of the season, getting 4 victories and only 1 loss in 7 games, and are level with Braga and Sporting at 3rd. For a team whose objective is top 7, this is very good indeed. Stadium: Estádio dos Barreiros, 8,000 seats in Funchal Team:  Manager: Pedro Martins Star: Baba has 5 goals in 7 matches, and Danilo Dias has been one of the standouts of the season so far. Captain: Briguel You should root for this team if:…you shouldn’t, root for Sporting instead. Académica de Coimbra   History: One of the oldest clubs in Portugal, founded in 1876 in Coimbra, city of students (home to one of the oldest universities in the world, 13th century bitches) and created by students from that same university. It’s the only team in Portugal where players sometimes have college degrees. Académica fights relegation every year and normally succeeds; they have been in the 1st division since 2002 but only once have they ended up top 10. Honours: 2nd in Primeira Liga 1966-1967, Portuguese Cup winners in 1938-1939. Current Status: Académica is the other surprise of the season, usually their goal is avoiding relegation and they are regularly close to going down, but this year they are 6th with 4 wins in 7 matches. Maybe top 10 this season? Stadium: Estádio Cidade de Coimbra, 30,000 seats, in Coimbra Team:  Manager: Pedro Emanuel Star: Éder is on fire and has 4 goals in 8 matches and Sissoko is a nifty forward. Captain: Orlando You should root for this team if:…you’re into college girls. SC Beira-Mar   History: I didn’t know any of this, but apparently, Beira-Mar was founded on 1922 by a group of guys who had emigrated to the US and upon their return to Aveiro decided there was a lack of sports associations in the city. Beira-Mar reached the first division 39 years later, but only lasted one season. Since then they’ve been pretty inconsistent, getting relegated quite often, but they haven’t dropped to the third division in a long time, so yay. Their best position ever in the first divison was 6th, in 1990-1991, a record they won’t beat any time soon. Their biggest triumph ever was winning the Portuguese Cup in the 1998-1999 season, beating poo poo team Campomaiorense in the final 1-0. Also of note is that on 23 February 2002, Beira-Mar beat a José Mourinho coached FC Porto 2-3; this was to be Mourinho’s last home defeat for almost a decade, with 150 matches unbeaten after that match. Of course last season his Real Madrid team was beaten by Sporting Gijón at Santiago Bernabéu, ending that record, so Beira-Mar doesn’t even have that to hold on to. Honours: Portuguese Cup winners in 1999, 6th place in Primeira Liga’s 1990-1991 season Current Status: I actually have a bit of a soft spot for Beira-Mar since part of my family resides in Aveiro. They are a pretty bad team though, and will be lucky to get top 10 (they were 13th last season). The team is actually 10th right now, but have won only once (a surprising 0-3 over V. Guimarães), getting by mostly on 0-0’s. Beira-Mar have the best defense in the league (only 2 goals have been scored against them), but also the worst attack (3 goals in 7 games). Stadium: Estádio Municipal de Aveiro, 32,000 seats, in Aveiro. Team:  Manager: Rui Bento Star: None, but I guess Artur is pretty good. Captain: Hugo You should root for this team if: …canals give you boners (Aveiro is called the Venice of Portugal). Gil Vicente FC   History: Founded in 1924 in the small city of Barcelos, and named after the playwright Gil Vicente, the club first got promoted to the first division in 1990-1991. After that they were a consistent first division team, until 2006-2007 when the courts decided they had used an illegally registered player (the Mateus affair as it was called), and relegated them. They won the second division league last season, and are back this year. Honours: The Trophies page in their website is completely empty, which I thought was funny. Clubs usually try to fill those pages with 2nd and 3rd division wins, but Gil Vicente didn’t bother. 5th place in Primeira Liga’s 1999-2000 season. Current Status: Gil Vicente’s goal is to not get relegated again, and they are doing well so far, considering they are 9th and have already played Porto, Braga and Benfica. Stadium: Estádio Cidade de Barcelos, 12,000 seats, in Barcelos. Team:  Manager: Paulo Alves Star: None really, although Roberto was their top scorer last season and centre back Cláudio has 4 goals in 6 matches. Captain: Paulo Arantes You should root for this team if:…you love roosters (Barcelos is all about the roosters). SC Olhanense   History: Founded in 1912, was the first team from the Algarve region (South of Portugal, famous for its beaches) to reach the first division. Dropped down in 1975, and stayed down for 34 years, until in 2009 Olhanense returned to the Primeira Liga. Honours: Runner-up in the Portuguese Cup 1944-1945, 4th place in Primeira Liga’s 1945-1946. War was bringing them down! Current Status: I like Olhanense, it’s a team of meager resources but still plays open and attacking football, unlike many of the smaller teams in the league. Also, compare Olhanense’s and Gil Vicente’swebsites, one of them is cool as gently caress and the other is poo poo. They were 11th last year and will now try to get top 10, especially since they are in 8th right now, with 9 points in 7 games. Stadium: Estádio José Arcanjo, 10,000 seats, in Olhão. Team:  Manager: Daúto Faquirá Star: Wilson Eduardo, a young pacy winger/striker that has been one of the revelations of the season, with 3 goals in 6 matches. Unfortunely for Olhanense, he’s a loan from Sporting CP. Captain: Rui Duarte You should root for this team if:…life’s a beach. Vitória Guimarães SC   History: Vitória Guimarães, founded in 1922, is one of the biggest clubs in Portugal and a regular in the top division (though they have been relegated a couple of times, last time was in the 2005-2006 season). They have never been champions, but they are one of the many teams who have been trying to destroy the Big Three dominance in recent times, achieving a fantastic 3rd place in the 2007-2008 season. Their biggest rivals are Boavista and especially Braga, as the two cities not only are neighbors (the Derby do Minho is what we call the matches between these two) but both are constantly fighting for the spot of Portugal’s 4th biggest team. Braga has been more successful in recent times obviously. By the way, Guimarães is considered the birthplace of Portugal, as it was the centre of Portugal’s fight with Spain for independence back in the 12th century, for various reasons (thus our great king D.Afonso Henriques is on their badge). Honours: Runner-up in the Portuguese Cup an astounding 5 times, never actually winning the cup, 3rd place in Primeira Liga in three different occasions (more recently in 2007-2008). Portuguese Supercup winners in 1988 and runner-up in 2010-2011. Current Status: Guimarães was 5th last season, and they were aiming for 4th this season, but they aren’t doing so hot right now. They started the season with a loss against Porto in the Supercup, and then were thrown out of the Europa League in the playoffs against Atlético Madrid; after that, 2 losses in 3 games for the league meant experienced manager Manuel Machado was fired, and Rui Vitória is in. He hasn’t started well, with 2 losses. Guimarães are in crisis and should be doing a lot better with this squad, let’s see where they end up. Stadium: Estádio D. Afonso Henriques, 30,000 seats, in Guimarães Team:  Manager: Rui Vitória Star: Pedro Mendes is a classy defensive midfielder with a great career, Nuno Assis is a talented nº10 who didn’t make it in the top clubs, Targino and Toscano are dangerous attackers. Edgar is one of the top scorers of the league so far, with 4 goals in 5 matches. Captain: João Alves You should root for this team if:…you’re into underachievers. Rio Ave FC   History: Rio Ave FC was founded in 1939, and had its best period in the 80’s, when it reached the final of the Portuguese Cup and got their best position ever in the league. However it spent most of the 90’s in the second division, and nowadays drops in and out of the first division. One of the most unremarkable clubs in Portuguese football. Honours: 5th place in Primeira Liga’s 1981-1982 season, Runner-up in the 1983-1984 Portuguese Cup. That’s nice I guess. Current Status: Rio Ave finished 8th last season, they had hoped to get top 10 again this year but since right now they have 2 points from 7 games their new objective is to not get relegated. Stadium: Estádio do Rio Ave FC, 12,000 seats, in Vila do Conde. Even their stadium has a boring name. Team:  Manager: Carlos Brito Star: João Tomás is one of the most prolific Portuguese strikers in the last 10 years, but hasn’t been able to make it in the national team and is now too old to join a top team. Captain: Gaspar You should root for this team if:…you want to follow the 2nd division next year. FC Paços de Ferreira   History: Founded in 1950, it’s one of the youngest clubs in Portugal to play in the top division, which it reached in the 90’s. As such, there’s not much of a history, although in recent times Paços has established itself as one of the most dangerous “small” clubs, often stealing points from the top teams. Honours: 6th place in Primeira Liga’s 2006-2007 season, runner-up in the Portuguese Cup 2008-2009, runner-up in the Supercup of the following season, runner-up in the Portuguese League Cup 2010-2011. drat, they’ll never win anything. Current Status: An impressive 7th place in last season’s league means they will be disappointed not to get top 8 this season; their goal is to reach the Europa League. They’ve had a bad start though, with 4 points in 7 games. Stadium: Estádio da Mata Real, 5,000 seats, in Paços de Ferreira Team:  Manager: Luís Miguel Star: Caetano is a dwarf. Seriously, his height is 1.65m, he looks like a child on the pitch. However, he’s also one of the promising Portuguese wingers of recent times, and only 20. Michel, the striker, is also one of Paços’ most dangerous players, reminds me of Yakubu, and has 4 goals in 7 matches. Captain: I honestly have no loving idea. You should root for this team if:…you love scoring goals with your hands. That’s what they did the last time I went to the stadium to watch a Sporting match against them, we ended up losing that game and I felt like poo poo. gently caress Paços. CD Feirense   History: One of the smallest clubs you’ll find in the top division, Feirense was founded in 1918, and reached the Primeira Liga in 1962, although it was immediately relegated, which happened every time it reached the first division. It’s back this year, the first time since 1990. It’s probably going back down. Honours: 14th in Primeira Liga 1962-1963 was their best position, do you think they’ve ever won anything? They haven’t, they’re a poo poo team. Current Status: Feirense are looking to not get relegated, and they’ve started well enough, getting to 11th with 7 points in 7 games. They’ll probably go down though. Stadium: Estádio Marcolino de Castro, 5,000 seats, in Santa Maria da Feira Team:  Manager: Quim Machado Star: Their Player of the Year last season was Paulo Lopes, their GK, so that’s how poo poo they are. Captain: Luciano You should root for this team if:…you’re into underdogs. CD Nacional   History: One of the clubs founded in the island of Madeira in 1910, it is along with Marítimo, their rivals, the biggest team in the region, and nowadays usually competes with Guimarães to be Portugal’s 5th team. A good progress, especially since Nacional first ascended to the first division in 1986, and after a rough 90’s, returned to the top and managed to qualify for European competitions. Honours: 4th place in Primeira Liga’s 2008-2009 season, which is really impressive. Not a good run in the cups. Current Status: Not a good start for Nacional: they are 12th with 7 points in 7 games. They had a tough 1-4 defeat against Guimarães, and a shocker 4-0 against surprising Académica. Ivo Vieira is one of the managers in risk right now. Probably won’t repeat the 6th place from last season. Stadium: Estádio da Madeira, 5,500 seats, in Funchal Team:  Manager: Ivo Vieira Star: Felipe Lopes and Leandro Salino aren’t bad. Captain: Bruno Patacas. You should root for this team if:…you too hated the 90’s. loving boy bands. União de Leiria   History: A very young club, founded in 1966 and that in 1978 reached the first division. Leiria was managed by José Mourinho before he left for Porto and made his name. Honours: 5th in Primeira Liga’s 2002-2003 season, runner-up in the Portuguese Cup of the same season, runner-up in the Supercup the following season Current Status: Leiria were 10th last season, and will try to improve on that, but things didn’t start well. 5 losses in 6 matches meant Pedro Caixinha was out, replaced with famed manager Manuel Cajuda, who shocked the league with a win over Braga in his first match in Leiria. Stadium: Estádio Municipal da Marinha Grande, 6,000 seats, in Marinha Grande Team:  Manager:Manuel Cajuda Star: None. Captain: Marco Soares You should root for this team if:…you love relegation battles and want to follow one this year. Vitória de Setúbal   History: Founded in 1910, it’s Mourinho’s club (he and his father played for the team). I’m sick of this thread, can’t bother to write anything else. Honours: 2nd in Primeira Liga’s 1971-1972 season, 3 times Portuguese Cup winners, winners of the first League Cup, runner-up twice in the Supercup Current Status: Average beginning, Setúbal are 7th and will look to finish in the top 10, they were 12th last season. Stadium: Estádio do Bonfim, 20,000 seats, in Setúbal Team:  Manager: Bruno Ribeiro Star: João Silva is the best scorer with 3 goals in 6 matches, Anderson do Ó is their most solid defender Captain: Ricardo Silva You should root for this team if:…you think you are a special one.
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League Table Jornada 7 (Jornada=Matchday)  I’ll get more into each match in future updates, these ones were played 2 weeks ago. Previous Matchdays       Player of the Month – September  1st. Ricky van Wolfswinkel (Sporting CP) 2. Danilo Dias (Marítimo) 3. Wilson Eduardo (Olhanense) 4. Elias (Sporting CP) 5. Fito Rinaudo (Sporting CP) 6. Diego Capel (Sporting CP) 7. Nuno Gomes (Sp. Braga) 8. Baba (Marítimo) 9. Sissoko (Académica) 10. Diego (Vit. Setúbal) Mean Bean Machine fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Oct 22, 2011 |
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Oct 22, 2011 23:36
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Why was Boavista relegated and not Porto?
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Oct 22, 2011 23:56
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Brilliant OP. Have to admit I don't know much about portugese football apart from the times I've seen Porto, Benfica and Braga in europe, and they've always looked like good teams. I saw a couple of league matches last season and they were all mental. Lots of drama, ugly as gently caress tackles and nasty tactics but the football was great. Porto and Benfica seems to provide excellent players to top european teams every season yet it seems they find replacements to sell for massive profit again without much trouble. What's the next big thing to come out of portugal then?
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Oct 23, 2011 00:01
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Which team would you describe as the Stoke City of portugal?
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Great thread. I'm a huge fan of Hulk which makes me a giant Porto plastic.
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Oct 23, 2011 00:28
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tekz posted:Why was Boavista relegated and not Porto? Officially, because authorities could only prove that Porto had attempted to bribe referees, while they had proof that Boavista had actually succeeded in bribing them. The phone recordings gathered (some of which anyone can listen to) were not accepted in court. Unofficially, because over the last two decades Porto have spread their control over the whole football system in Portugal, something Boavista had only started to do when their former president became President of the League. Also, nobody dared to testify against Porto officials (except Pinto da Costa's ex-wife), since the club has become one of the richest and biggest institutions in Portugal, while Boavista was a 2nd rate team who through corruption (their players were known to tackle recklessly and not get punished for it) managed to get their hands on a title and in the same decade dropped down to the third division, where they now rot away. Mean Bean Machine fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Oct 23, 2011 |
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Mean Bean Machine posted:Officially, because authorities could only prove that Porto had attempted to bribe referees, while they had proof that Boavista had actually succeeded in bribing them. The phone recordings gathered (some of which anyone can listen to) were not accepted in court. Unofficially, because over the last two decades Porto have spread their control over the whole football system in Portugal, something Boavista had only started to do when their former president became President of the League. To add that they were relegated due to sports courts not the judicial ones, the ruling of the judicial courts is yet to be known (if I'm not mistaken), if they rule in favor of Boavista there will be a shitstorm ahead. Anyway, go PORTO  (please start playing football and stop sucking this season  )
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Oct 23, 2011 00:59
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Cristiano Ronaldo left Sporting and signed for Manchester United. This happened recently. Please update OP
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Byolante posted:Which team would you describe as the Stoke City of portugal? Vitória de Setubal is an awful club from an awful city, you only go there if you're miserable\want to go to great beaches\like eating delicious cuttlefish. They're dirt poor and the fact that they have such quality players is amazing. -Root for Setubal for poor communist glory -Guimarães for a juventus-lite team (they promise a lot but just screw it all up.) -União de Leiria because of Cajuda's antics -Porto or Benfica if you're cunts (expect for me, my parents where literally from Benfica so i have royal rights to be a fan )- Sporting if you're a football fan who has vague ideas about supporting national talent (even tho Domingos wised up and sold most of that crap) -Braga if you like an actual good team winning things through quality football. -Maritimo and Nacional are from Madeira, gently caress them, gently caress everything from that isolated hell-hole. -Academica because of what Mean Bean Machine said. -Gil Vincente ,Rio Ave and Beira Mar are boring. Feirense and Paços too. -Any team from Algarve is a good team. -Support Barreirense, Desportivo das Aves, Gondomar or Belenenses if you want to be a true fan of Portuguese football.
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Oct 23, 2011 01:52
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euroboy posted:Brilliant OP. Well there's always Hulk, but I guess that's old news. The new big thing will either be Gaitan or Wolfswinkel. There doesn't seem to be any new amazing player from Porto right now, it's basically the last year team minus the Talented Manager and Falcão.
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Oct 23, 2011 02:27
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Great OP. The teams from Madeira have tiny stadiums - is there not a league ruling about the size of top flight stadiums? Also that must be quite a travel expense to fly all the way out there for matches. There aren't any teams in the Azores are there?
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Oct 23, 2011 02:35
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GravityDaemon posted:Great OP. Santa Clara are regulars on the first league, they go through phases where they stay up for a few years then go back down.
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Oct 23, 2011 02:47
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euroboy posted:Brilliant OP. Well, Hulk obviously would already be out of here if Porto weren't asking for 50m or more, Alvaro Pereira and Guarin will probably leave for bigger teams soon, but the potential is all on James Rodriguez's side, 20 years old and already on the starting 11, he's really good. Moutinho is in bad form right now, good thing Chelsea didn't go for him. Benfica-wise, Nico Gaitán has been scouted regularly by Man Utd and he's great, another great season is all it'll take for him to be scooped up. Witsel is also shaping up to be fantastic, but that's nothing new, he's been talked about for years. Other than that, Man Utd have also confirmed they have been looking at van Wolfswinkel, I think it's too soon to say how good he'll become, but he's fantastic right now, something like 9 goals in 9 matches (league and EL). quote:Which team would you describe as the Stoke City of portugal? Hard to say, since even the crappier teams like to play attacking football with the ball on the ground (except against the big three). I'd say Rio Ave is the closest, with their reliance on their big nº9, João Tomás. Académica maybe, but this year they are actually playing reckless football. edit: maybe you should go for the complete opposite of Stoke, Sporting CP: weak as poo poo pansy players, crap their pants collectively every time there are any setpieces, play with the ball on the ground during the 90 minutes. Mean Bean Machine fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Oct 23, 2011 |
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Oct 23, 2011 03:00
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What happened to Veloso?
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Oct 23, 2011 03:01
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Jose posted:What happened to Veloso? He's from the same generation as Nani and Moutinho, and it's funny because the one who looked like the worst of the three ends up as one of the best players in the world at Man Utd, Miguel Veloso ended up getting sold for €8m to Genoa when Sporting were in a horrible financial state and he's been pretty average for the Italians, and Moutinho who was Sporting's captain and best player was called a rotten apple by the president of the time and sold for €10m to one of our biggest rivals. Just poo poo management by Sporting all around, at least we got some money for Nani.
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Oct 23, 2011 03:22
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Jose posted:What happened to Veloso? He went to Italy and got fat. Seems to be doing half okay these days.
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Oct 23, 2011 03:23
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I've been following Sporting since they signed Andre Carrillo. He is a pretty good young Peruvian attacker. I was pleasantly surprised to see that they also have Diego Capel from Sevilla. Love that (ex) long haired motherfucker.
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Oct 23, 2011 03:35
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Jose posted:What happened to Veloso? He had a lot of trouble holding down a spot at Genoa and if Im remembering correctly he had some injury trouble in his first season. He's playing more now and has generally gotten better.
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Oct 23, 2011 03:35
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Weaponized Cum posted:I've been following Sporting since they signed Andre Carrillo. He is a pretty good young Peruvian attacker. I was pleasantly surprised to see that they also have Diego Capel from Sevilla. Love that (ex) long haired motherfucker. Carrillo only started to play when Jeffren got injured, but he's been surprisingly great and Jeffren is going to have a hard time stealing his place. Carrillo can be a bit of a ball hogger, but if that means we get more of these plays (vs Setubal), I'm all for it. He also got a fantastic assist in the EL this Thursday, nutmegged an opponent and left the ball for Matias. He's got a great future. Mean Bean Machine fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Oct 23, 2011 |
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Oct 23, 2011 03:41
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Mean Bean Machine posted:Carrillo only started to play when Jeffren got injured, but he's been surprisingly great and Jeffren is going to have a hard time stealing his place. Carrillo can be a bit of a ball hogger, but if that means we get more of these plays (vs Setubal), I'm all for it. He also got a fantastic assist in the EL this Thursday, nutmegged an opponent and left the ball for Matias. He's got a great future. Yes, he had some good link up play with Fernandez. I hope he does very well, we need him for the national team!
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Oct 23, 2011 03:47
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Excellent OP, this season looks like it will be much more exciting than last times Porto dominance.
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Oct 23, 2011 07:33
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the first european match I saw live was Leeds-Maritimo. Hasselbaink scored a penalty to win it at the last minute iirc. My dad's friend spilled beer all over me when he celebrated. Go Maritimo
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Oct 23, 2011 14:30
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Mans posted:-Support Barreirense, Desportivo das Aves, Gondomar or Belenenses if you want to be a true fan of Portuguese football. Belenenses' stadium has the most gorgeous surroundings you can imagine, it's a stone's throw from the Jerónimos monastery and all the other grotesque monuments on the Belém beach. Support them for aesthetical reasons.
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Oct 23, 2011 15:08
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Fantastic OP. Glad that Benfica has a chance of winning this season.
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Oct 23, 2011 16:31
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Benfica were having a hard time dismantling Beira-Mar's best defense in the league yesterday, until Cardozo got gifted an easy goal by their retarded keeper. gently caress. Porto - Nacional in a bit, hopefully this will be the game where Nacional reverses their horrible form, doubt it though.
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Oct 23, 2011 18:08
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I support Braga.
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Oct 23, 2011 20:57
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Porto won 5-0 against Nacional, we played like poo poo but still more than enough to wipe these guys. Our midfield and defense are still really unstable though and that's the main problem.
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Oct 23, 2011 21:14
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What's really important is that Hulk is now blonde and looks like a Super Sayan.
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Oct 23, 2011 22:02
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need a pic of this asap. it's for a project
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Oct 23, 2011 22:03
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 Here you go, with a nice shot of his rear end to boot.
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Oct 23, 2011 22:14
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Oh my. I guess he lost a bet or something.
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Oct 23, 2011 22:17
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Braga beat Feirense with a clean 3-0, Nuno Gomes scored yet again, proving that even though he's getting old he's still better than literally any portuguese strike in activity (the fact that he and Liedson would make a killer strike force for Portugal shows how much we lack up front.) Also, Alan did this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9_TJpb2SVY Mans fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Oct 23, 2011 |
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Wish Sporting bought Alan when we had the chance. Porto, Benfica, Braga and Marítimo all won, that means nothing will change at the top of the table. Only Sporting to go, they play Gil Vicente tomorrow.quote:I support Braga. A fine choice. Their matches with Benfica are a lot of fun lately, the players hate each other and there are a lot of red cards. Braga play great football on occasion. quote:Belenenses' stadium has the most gorgeous surroundings you can imagine, it's a stone's throw from the Jerónimos monastery and all the other grotesque monuments on the Belém beach. Support them for aesthetical reasons. A shame about Belenenses, they were the biggest club in Lisbon after Benfica and Sporting but got completely destroyed in the 00's and have been plying away in the 2nd division lately. Nowadays in Lisbon only old people and hipsters "support" Belenenses.
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Whatever happened to Boavista? I remember when in the '90s my team (MyPa, from Finland) played them in the Cup Winners' Cup we were thinking "woah, a big European team playing here, sick", but looks like they've since been relegated to the third division. Financial difficulties? e: oh, should've read the thread...
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So at the begining of the year Sporting Lisbon got Diego Rubio. So how is he going ? For the little time he was on the senior squad for colo-colo he was playing fantastic (scored at least once every game) but lately I haven't heard anything from him.
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Oct 24, 2011 06:52
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dj_pain posted:So at the begining of the year Sporting Lisbon got Diego Rubio. So how is he going ? For the little time he was on the senior squad for colo-colo he was playing fantastic (scored at least once every game) but lately I haven't heard anything from him. He doesn't have many chances considering Wolfswinkel current form.
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dj_pain posted:So at the begining of the year Sporting Lisbon got Diego Rubio. So how is he going ? For the little time he was on the senior squad for colo-colo he was playing fantastic (scored at least once every game) but lately I haven't heard anything from him. He had a great pre-season, to the point where he was considered the best of Sporting's new strikers, but a bad start in the league and Wolfswinkel's current form means he hasn't had many chances since then. The fans really like him though, he's definitely better than Bojinov who won't last in this team if he keeps playing the way he's been playing. Now that Sporting's in better form, I can see Rubio getting more chances against weaker teams, the manager has been a little afraid to experiment 'lest he ruin our 8 win run. Nobody expected Rubio to be a starter as soon as he arrived though, he's too young. edit: ugh, I really don't like the manager's options today. He benched Carrillo and is playing Matias Fernandez on the right wing, who tends to drift to the middle allowing our RB João Pereira to attack the way he likes to. The problem is Pereira's crosses are horrible, so there are no deliveries coming from the right wing to the striker and the game is being played mostly on the middle. I think if Carrillo was on we would be up 2 or 3 goals, Gil Vicente's defense is looking flimsy. Mean Bean Machine fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Oct 24, 2011 |
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Oct 24, 2011 14:29
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I guess this is why Domingos is Sporting's coach and Mean Bean Machine is a Something Awful poster 
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Mans posted:I guess this is why Domingos is Sporting's coach and Mean Bean Machine is a Something Awful poster The result was a big surprise, Gil Vincent isn't doing half bad in the league, but gently caress 6-1? How did that happen? I used to like Sporting more when they were in permanent crisis. Now there is no one to make fun of. 
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