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Carth Onassi has already been mentioned in this thread because, goons, but I will be watching at least one episode this show simply for that fact. Annakie knows where it's at.
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| # ¿ Oct 24, 2011 01:30 |
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This is the second ABC show of the year that I watched and thought "why isn't this a movie instead of a TV show?" The basic premise is very interesting but it seems like a lot to ask to keep spinning this baby out over an entire season, let alone more than one. Could get "Eureka-y" really quick. However, they proved me wrong with Revenge by making it pretty awesome, so maybe this show will do so as well. I found the parts in the fairy world a lot more compelling than the real world components (though Jennifer Morrison did a great job), so I hope they don't have to abandon it. I was alarmed at how invested I was in Snow White and Prince Charming. Rumplestiltskin was also delightful. The actors really believed their roles, which helped me out. Also the little kid actor did not make me want to smack him across the room so that is a win. Annakie posted:Yeah, I noticed that with the fact that they only showed Jimminy Cricket for about two seconds. CGI Jimminey Cricket can't be cheap at all. Well, also, while I could hear it when he was on screen physically it wasn't too distracting, but when his voice was coming out of a CGI'ed cricket the only thing I could hear was Carth / Kaidan. Too weird.
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| # ¿ Oct 24, 2011 12:46 |
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Dear God. I guess up against a (terrible) football game and baseball it was in the right spot to do well with non-sports fans but that shocks me.
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| # ¿ Oct 24, 2011 15:55 |
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I dunno, I might find it kind of refreshing if she was just kind of unrepentantly evil because that's how she was born to be instead of having some kind of complex backstory where Snow White accidentally ran over her dog in the past and so she's intent on her destruction or whatever. It's not that I don't like that kind of story, but the trend lately has been to give villains a lot of complexity and inner motivation and in a story about fairy tales, like Aphrodite said, it would be a good opportunity to just skip all of that business and have someone revel in their evil nature. My problem with the queen so far is that the modern day mayor equivalent doesn't seem to be having a lot of fun. In order for it to work she needs to just be a total scheming rear end in a top hat who's relishing in her foes' plight. She seems pretty wooden. However, it might just be that the pilot didn't have that kind of time. As long as her schemes are cruel and her delight is genuine, though, I don't think I'll care if she has any motivation at all beyond "evil is fun and awesome".
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| # ¿ Oct 25, 2011 13:16 |
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Brocktoon posted:Well, I think some of this is too early to judge. I think it would be interesting if the queen's curse wasn't necessarily only to move them to this new world, but if she's keeping them trapped in some kind of Groundhog Day style time loop where they live out events over and over again that she controls and tweaks to her liking before yanking them back to start the process over again with a fresh set of memories. So maybe Snow White has gone through endless iterations of waking up her Prince from his coma and almost being happy with him before resetting, etc. That way the queen gets to indulge her pathological need for cruelty and it always gives her something fresh to do. It also explains the agelessness and the lack of concern the characters have about it (with Henry being different because he was born outside of the curse and presumably half-mortal). Or that could be total nonsense and they have a different direction they're taking. My point is more that with only a pilot shown, I'm willing to wait to see what their explanation might be rather than assume they don't have one. They've obviously thought over their story-weaving somewhat carefully if they have fairy tale backstory hooks planned out for most of their characters already. As far as it not being interesting because we can't see their fable selves adjusting to their real world selves, how is it less interesting to see their real world selves adjusting to their fable selves? I think they could get quite a bit of mileage out of having various characters trying to reconcile who they were with who they are, especially if at any point Emma's presence allows people to shift back and forth between fairy and reality. Plus, while the Queen vs. Snow White (+ daughter) lines have been drawn in the sand fairly clearly, I don't think it's necessarily obvious where all of these characters are going to end up. Maybe some of them prefer living in the real world (and non-obvious ones like Raphael Sbarge, who doesn't have to be a talking cricket anymore). And really the show isn't trying to be a mystery so much as an opportunity to do character studies of fairy tale creatures in the real world each week. I dunno. I can see a lot of possibilities for this show's direction. This doesn't mean it will work in the end, but I think you're being too caught up in wanting a specific story to see the potential in a different one.
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| # ¿ Oct 26, 2011 17:47 |
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Blech, they gave the evil queen a motivation. Snow White killed her kid or stole her husband or whatever and so now she has to get revenge. There's already a show with that name on your channel, ABC, and it is better at it. Why can't people just be evil and cruel on this show? Rumpelstiltskin is where it's at.Manos del Sino posted:I like the present parts of the show, which is good since that is the focus, but the fantasy world scenes all feel very hammy. I mean, maybe that's an intentional choice, but it's like there are two productions happening here; one which is polished and taken seriously, and another where everybody puts in a B effort at best. I'm the exact opposite. I think the present parts of the show are draggy while the fantasy world scenes contain the meat of the interest. It's like, blah blah blah reconnecting with your son and being convinced of the fairy tale premise that we already know is true, whatever, yawn. Get back to Snow White and Prince Charming being kickass and the evil queen turning people to stone and killing horses and ripping out her dad's heart, please. Not that I disagree that the fantasy stuff is hammy but it's obviously on purpose which is what makes it so fun. I'm probably going to keep watching but they'd better move the present day stuff along or make the villains in the present day be having as much fun as Rumpelstiltskin is or they're going to lose me. I did like the touch of having the gnome she turned into stone be her garden gnome, though. Heh.
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| # ¿ Oct 31, 2011 12:37 |
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DivisionPost posted:While I agree that there should be more villains who should just be straight assholes, I have to play Devil's Advocate. This particular motivation raises an interesting question - "Why does the evil queen think pure, innocent Snow White killed the one she loved most?" - and gives Lana Parilla more than one note to play. I guess they could come up with an interesting reason, that's true. I'm just not sure they will. Though, did she ever say Snow White actually killed someone? I thought they used the more ambiguous phrase "took away" but I could easily have missed something. At first I thought it was going to be that the queen was in love with the prince before he saw Snow White, but with her obsession with Henry I'm starting to think it's something to do with a child she had. Re: Revenge you should probably watch it from the beginning if you can. The current episodes are better if you've been in on the slow character build from the beginning. It is quite a good show though, in my opinion better than this one.
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| # ¿ Oct 31, 2011 15:27 |
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bobkatt013 posted:I do not think it will be Big Bad Wolf due to it being too similar to Fables. I think he almost has to be with that beard.
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| # ¿ Nov 1, 2011 13:19 |
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He's Sheriff Graham, which is like a Teddy Graham, which are bears, so he is one of the three bears in Goldilocks. Nailed it.
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| # ¿ Nov 1, 2011 13:31 |
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bobkatt013 posted:But it is getting good ratings But possibly because they didn't make it a mystery that they were all fairy tale creatures.
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| # ¿ Nov 2, 2011 12:06 |
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Lawlicaust posted:I don't see there being that much left to explore in Fairy Tale Land unless they show why The Queen hates Snow White. Maybe we'll get flashbacks of when they first came to the town. Or maybe someone else's perspective of the past. I really doubt that they're done introducing characters, even if they're a one-off guest spot for a week. There's no reason they can't encounter Goldilocks one episode and show how she works into both Fairy Tale and the real world, or whoever. Edit: And someone reminded me that Maleficent talked to the Queen about how she couldn't bring back to life the thing she loved, so apparently Snow White did kill someone (or started in motion events that killed someone at least).
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| # ¿ Nov 6, 2011 10:56 |
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Who was the smarmy Snow White date guy?
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| # ¿ Nov 7, 2011 01:11 |
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der juicen posted:I thought it was guy that never dies in Heroes. Not sure. Yes, you're right, though I actually recognized him as John Gilbert from Vampire Diaries. David Anders is the actor's name.
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| # ¿ Nov 7, 2011 01:15 |
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Jingleheimer posted:How pissed off would you be if you tried out for the part of Henry and lost to that kid? Eh, he's probably just trading in on his Mad Men pedigree. There are a lot of things I liked about this episode (Snow White not being a helpless damsel, the John Doe being trapped in a glass "coffin" of a hospital room, the way the story got Snow White and Emma together, most of the fairy tale scenes especially anything with Snow White and the Prince) but I thought that sometimes they're a little too twee with their asides. Like Snow White literally calling him "Prince Charming", even though that trope shouldn't exist in the fairy tale world. And god that little kid, just put some duct tape over his mouth. Emma and the Queen having scenes together is always good (they really play off of each other well) but I didn't understand the point of Emma confronting her at the end except that they wanted to give them a scene together. It's nonsensical stuff like that that's going to kill me on this show, I can tell. I think this episode definitively proved that the Mayor Queen knows exactly what is going on in the world, though. Her scheming makes zero sense otherwise. And I'm coming around on the sheriff being the Huntsman instead of a wolf. Next week looks super interesting though. Any Rumplestiltskin-centirc episodes are okay by me.
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| # ¿ Nov 7, 2011 02:02 |
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Wouldn't she also be trespassing, though? I don't know anything about the law but it seems like, in a town where that mayor runs basically everything and has the ability to set you up even for crimes you didn't actually commit, it's a pretty dumb risk.
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| # ¿ Nov 7, 2011 03:31 |
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Merlinicus posted:You can't trespass on public property. That's why it's public. Oh, I was in the impression the tree was in the mayor's backyard. I'm sure I'm wrong though, I don't pay a ton of attention when the scenes move into the real world.
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| # ¿ Nov 7, 2011 13:09 |
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Rumpelstiltskin feels like he was imported from a completely different show. His motivations (greed, love of power) make sense to me unlike basically anyone else. Emma is vaguely trying to "break a curse", whatever that means, but they haven't given her or us any direction on how to do it. I had thought it would involve her going around to people and making their stories right, sort of like she did tonight by inserting herself into the fairy godmother role, but she's just sort of wandering into them rather than taking an active role. I know she's sticking around because of Henry, but what is she actually doing? Regina is even weirder - she hates that her son is hanging out with Emma but she just jets off for an entire day and leaves him by himself and expects him to stay there? Unless she's playing some kind of long game where she wants him to hang out with Emma but doesn't want them to know it, it makes no sense why she wouldn't leave him with like, a baby-sitter. And Henry isn't even a character (he's way too sanguine about his mom giving him up for adoption), he's just there for the slower members of the audience I think. I guess the sheriff may simply be horny, which I can at least understand as a motivator. I dunno. Cinderella's story this week was pretty good, both flashback and real world, but the overarching story is really dull and doesn't make a lot of sense. I also hope they will explore how Emma's "advice" to everyone to act better is really for them to act more like her.
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| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 13:54 |
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I was under the impression that Emma believed him, at least on some level. If she's sticking around humoring his delusions for no real reason except the selfish one of getting to stay in his life (something which she has no right to) then that's way grosser of her and makes her really unsympathetic despite Jennifer Morrison's very good acting.
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| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 14:26 |
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DivisionPost posted:It doesn't really make for the best television, I agree. (Also, although it didn't bother me as I watched, I agree that it makes absolutely no sense for Regina to leave Henry alone.) However, you'd run into other plausibility problems if Emma fully believed Henry too quickly. Yeah, I suppose this is ultimately a show about fairy tales so plausibility shouldn't be my main focus, but it kind of bugs me that so far the more "realistic" things are happening in the fairy world, at least according to its own internal logic. People in that world behave in a manner consistent with their lifestyle, but in the real world no one makes any sense. I guess I just don't know what this show wants to be yet, and that's leaving me rudderless. I don't understand the point of the series. Were I running it I would have come up with some kind of unifying theme to tie the episodes together - maybe that Emma has to make the stories get to their happy ending, by planting herself in some role in the story that's vital and missing or locate a missing piece or just keep the story on the rails while Regina is working against her. There have been flashes of that a little bit but it would be better if it was more purposeful. Or, the idea I like better, that the fairy tale stories take on more nuance in the real world and that is the real danger and curse. That Cinderella doesn't get to have everything because, in the real world, she has to be her own agent. That Snow White has to deal with the lack of "true love" and what that means for her and the prince. That the mirror on the wall is no longer under a compulsion to tell the truth, but has to decide for himself what to say and not to say. That Jiminy Cricket realizes that maintaining a conscience is hard work. That the big bad wolf has to deal with feelings surrounding his actions. That Regina realizes she can't just be personified evil and actually cares about her adopted son. And Emma is the person who is real, that grounds them in that and helps them accept this but still grow, with Rumpelstiltskin being the only one who has already embraced it and is one step ahead of everyone. The last paragraph is a show that I would crave every week (psychologically tormented fairy tale characters), but I really doubt that's where they're going with it. And aspects of the show are working so incredibly well that it's really frustrating to me dealing with the lack of overall direction and movement which is why I just wrote so much about it. I guess it really is like Lost!  I agree with AnimeJune that they way they're dealing with Henry / Regina / Emma is a real misstep. I see what DivisionPost means about potential abuse being a worry, but in reality Emma is overstepping her bounds to a crazy degree and Regina has every right to be kicking her rear end from one end of town to another. She gave this kid up, she doesn't have any rights surrounding him. And Regina seems to be treating him really well. I also am uncomfortable by the whole situation because the show doesn't seem aware of how wrong it is.
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| # ¿ Nov 14, 2011 18:12 |
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DivisionPost posted:Annakie. Sophia. Count Choculitis. I was like, why is DP calling out all of the girls in the thread? No audio, but still an interesting read thanks.
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| # ¿ Nov 20, 2011 14:58 |
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Is it possible to be a fan of a show where you like individual episodes, or stories within episodes, quite a bit but are supremely bored or annoyed by the serial aspects? Because that's where I'm sitting. Jiminy's story was pretty excellent but despite the skill of the actresses involved I could not give less of a poo poo about the war for Henry's motherhood that's waged every week. I liked the brief flashes we saw of real world Snow White not being such a paragon of virtue, but at the end she was back to her old, kindly ways. Hopefully that will fall apart - she's more interesting as a rogue than a saint.
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| # ¿ Dec 2, 2011 13:48 |
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VBane posted:I just don't see why people see things as comments on issues as a whole. Its a fairy tale. Yeah, the evil witch queen is an adoptive single mother, but she is also an evil witch. This is a fairy tale, why involve social issues? I don't think it's a huge issue or anything (especially in this case where I would have been equally pissed off that someone asked me to take a lovely shift by feeding me a story about saving animals when they really just wanted to get laid), but the implications of female roles in fairy tales are often troubling so it's hard for me to not get uncomfortable at them eventually. This show is actually doing a pretty good job of trying to subvert it where they can (Emma, the queen, Katherine) but for all of those there's also a Cinderella. But it's not like the guys are covering themselves with glory here either so I don't have a ton to complain about on that front. I thought the prince fairy tale backstory was pretty baller but again was extraordinarily bored with the real-life stuff. I am a huge fan of where they are taking Katherine, from a total dick in fairy tale to a really nice person in the real world. And Rumpelstiltskin having his hand in almost everything bad that happens in fairy tale is very slick story-telling. But god does real world Snow White bore me to tears, as well as the burgeoning love triangle with the sheriff. Katherine is much more interesting (and tragic) than Snow White. The scene where the original prince got totally murdered was fantastic though. And the dragon scene was so Skyrim that it freaked me out. Sophia fucked around with this message at Dec 5, 2011 around 04:42 |
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Neosuki posted:What did you guys think of the teaser for next week? Maybe looks like the Sheriff is the wolf? Or is ABC playing a bit of misdirection and he's the Huntsman? My guess is, that while they were trying to make it look like the Sheriff was playing off of Snow White, I'm guessing it's actually going to be a new character we haven't met and someone else like the Prince. Or if it is the Sheriff, Red Riding Hood's grandma that runs the inn will be the one that bites it.
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| # ¿ Dec 5, 2011 05:05 |
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DivisionPost posted:Again, though, they haven't been really pressing this issue, and there's no indication that they will, so it's not something you should feel obligated to follow. Especially since my take on things is a god damned existential nightmare that may fry your brain if you follow it too far down. These are the kinds of things that I wish the show was about (the nature of love, of evil, of what hate can do to a person) but I'm afraid it's about ~true love conquering all~ and ~believing in yourself~ and other schlocky stuff like that. Maybe why I like the fairy tale stuff more than the real world stuff is that 1) when that does happen it's like "magic, bitches!" and 2) it actually happens even less because people are for-real unrepentant bastards there.
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| # ¿ Dec 5, 2011 13:26 |
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Yeroc2 posted:After watching the preview I'm fair sure the Sheriff is the Evil Queen's Huntsman, the one who was sent to hunt down and kill Snow White. In retrospect, it seems kinda obvious now He'd better be a wolf with all of that dumb facial hair. Ratings dropped last night by 0.3 in the demo, making a drop of .7 in the last two weeks from its episode before the AMA break. It's still at a 3.1 which is solid but ABC can't be happy about the possibility of the freefall continuing.
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| # ¿ Dec 5, 2011 22:12 |
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Well, I liked the way the show handled the "someone finally remembers" thing and having it be major contact with Emma. Though if it has to be a kiss every time things are going to get awfully incestuous up in here, and if it's emotional closeness you'd think Snow White would have been affected already so that seems a bit plot convenient. This week was the first time the real world stuff was as interesting as the fairy tale stuff, so that was nice. Too bad Graham is a moron. I did get my welcome share of hilarious melodrama this week with both "Oh, down here beneath my father's fake grave? A room full of beating hearts. No biggie." and Rumpelstiltskin doing some light forest gardening for whatever reason that weirdo has.
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| # ¿ Dec 12, 2011 02:54 |
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DivisionPost posted:the dulcet tones of Raphael Sbarge will save us all. You speak the truth, my friend.
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| # ¿ Dec 14, 2011 03:11 |
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I hope it's like the Giant from Jack and the Beanstalk or the guy who sells the emperor his invisible clothes or Gaston or Puss in Boots or something. I would find it funny if Emma always fell for somewhat evil or doomed men from fairy tales.
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| # ¿ Dec 15, 2011 16:57 |
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VBane posted:Now to be fair, in this case it was "children are better off together with their natural parent than forever separated and stuck in the foster system with no guarantee of adoption." That isn't very hard to fall in line with. I dunno, I still found the whole thing pretty gross. What if their dad was a drunk, or a junkie, or an abuser, or a pedophile? The show makes a few headfakes towards "what if he doesn't want them?" but it never discusses the idea that a natural parent can be just as much of an rear end in a top hat as the potential horror story foster parents. And I know that it's Emma projecting her own issues onto the situation and etc, but we're clearly supposed to sympathize and think she's right. And everything works out in the end and the dad is wonderful and loving and there are twinkly lights. Give me a break. If you set something like this partially in the real world you can't make everything so shiny and clean like that. I felt incredibly uncomfortable for any kids who were ever adopted or in good foster homes who were watching this episode - it's like the show was telling them that they had a lesser experience because no one talked their real parents into keeping them. Blech.
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| # ¿ Jan 16, 2012 13:35 |
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GreenNight posted:You think about it too much. The main character had a poo poo experience in the system and wished her real parents took care of he instead. That's it. She is not perfect. I barely thought about it at all; it was staring you in the face the entire episode. I don't care if the character is biased or irrational - that makes characters interesting. I care that the show is definitely on her side - that makes the show kind of gross to watch. If they dealt with it as Emma being truly irrational and making a strong stand for the opposite opinion, it wouldn't matter so much that sometimes she's right. And just from this thread alone, I'm not the only person who felt that way so I'm pretty sure the problem is with the show, not with me.
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| # ¿ Jan 16, 2012 13:43 |
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That doesn't make it right. You can make a show about fairy tales coming true while still presenting the idea that, in the real world, a fairy tale ending might not be the best one we can make. Especially when it comes to something that might make kids who are watching, who potentially already feel unwanted and lesser, feel even more so. And to be clear, I'm not adopted and I was never in foster care, so this is all an outsider's perspective. I'm kind of flabbergasted anyone is even defending the show's point of view.
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| # ¿ Jan 16, 2012 13:51 |
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Once again the fairy tale stuff is far more compelling than the real world stuff, even if Richard Schiff was doing some weirdo accent. I'd much rather watch an hour of Regina manipulating a genie who ends up as a magic mirror than two dipshits Nancy Drew-ing it up in the real world (even if one of them was dipshitting on purpose). I was on the cusp of breaking up with this show until Eion Bailey showed up to be all grizzly, but "Henry's loyalty" is not an interesting enough concept to build half of the show around, writers. Throw out all of your Henry plots and focus on Mr. Gold and Mary Margaret / Emma.
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| # ¿ Jan 30, 2012 02:30 |
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Yeah, this show doesn't seem to have a moral compass, which is really weird for a show about fairy tales, the ultimate example of stark good vs. evil. At first I thought maybe that was their point, to contrast the stark morality of the fairy world stories to the real world but at this point I just think they don't really know what they're doing. Rooting for Regina is probably "wrong", but rooting for Emma is impossible. They even made Mary Margaret and her prince unabashed adulterers, which isn't exactly getting me off the couch to cheer. It's like each writer has a different morality base for the characters that they use at will. Very confusing.
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| # ¿ Jan 30, 2012 05:01 |
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DivisionPost posted:However much I've defended it in the past, I have to agree that it's not really a strong dramatic motive. I feel like if you wrote this show it would be a lot better. It doesn't suffer from a lack of scope, or a lack of thematic possibilities, or even a lack of good acting. You could draw on this well basically forever if you wanted to. I just feel, like I said before, there's a lack of clarity in their tone and themes. I always want to know how they make the sausage in writer's rooms, but here I am even more curious what they think the show is about and what their goals were when they started out. What show did they think they were making versus what we're seeing? What did they think the point was? I really want to know!
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| # ¿ Jan 30, 2012 14:30 |
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chesh posted:I don't see her as morally ambiguous at all, and I think that's part of what's bugging me about the show. We get it, she's evil. She's so evil she evils evil. Like the other week, she's in the grocery store just so Mary Margaret can see the pregnancy test and Regina can say "I hope you'll be discreet. It's no one elses business." Because Mary Margaret has such a history of gossiping about town! No, she's only there to say to the audience "Hi, I'm an evil bitch." But the problem is that we as the audience know that she is supposed to be evil because we see all the stuff she gets up to and we know the backstory, but in the world they inhabit no one has any reason to think that she is Evil with a capital E except for maybe Henry because of his magical book or whatever. Even Emma's "sometimes it works" magic lie detector ability only really knows that she apparently was lying when she said she loved Henry, which is not a harbinger of doom. And apparently the biggest proof of her evil ways in this world, from the show's perspective (before she killed the sheriff) was about Henry... who she's not at all evil to! So we're constantly being told "she's evil!!!!", and shown some evil things she does, but most of the time we're meant to apply that to her situation with Henry, in which she's not being evil in the least and is actually the one in the right. It's perplexing. So it might not be moral ambiguity so much as moral confusion for the audience.
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| # ¿ Jan 31, 2012 20:01 |
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I wish this show could figure out if it wanted to be a sappy romantic anthology, a weird psychological thriller, a mother-son reunion, or a mystery. I might watch any of the four of those (except maybe the 3rd one) but watching them all mixed up together at once makes them all unbearable. They finally managed to kill Mary Margaret and David's relationship completely for me, which was the only thing keeping me watching except for Eion Bailey's jawline. Time to move this one to "will watch while folding laundry" status.
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| # ¿ Feb 13, 2012 03:38 |
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Fast Luck posted:I agree that's a weak storyline in general but this may have been the best episode yet. So IMO it's a strange episode to check out after. I guess I'm not seeing what everyone else was enjoying so much. The fairy tale part is always strongest, and still was, but the romance between Rumpelstiltskin and Belle happened too fast for me to believe (especially with the makeup department cranking his pallor up to "Thriller music video" levels) which made Mr. Gold's arc in the real world actually more compelling than his fairy tale counterpart. I liked the last reveal a lot but I know that sort of darkness is only a very fleeting part of the overall hodgepodge of the show so it really just served to remind me of how much I'm actually not enjoying the rest of it. Maybe I'm just a curmudgeon.  I love Disney movies to the point of mania and I also enjoy the secret twisted darkness of fairy tales but I just want to rewrite every episode of this show immediately after I watch it. Except for the one where Snow White and Prince Charming originally met.
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| # ¿ Feb 13, 2012 04:11 |
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miseerin posted:Worst episode ever. It was such a filler, but such a BAD filler.... and really?? August....W....Booth???? Really? I liked this episode so much better than last week's. Everyone was acting stupid in the real world but it was at least the right kind of schmoopy fairy tale love stupid. The Fairy Tale world story was very good in the strict fairy tale tradition, Kathryn is one of the most interesting characters on the show and adding the fact that she had her own love story that the Queen destroyed just because she wanted to gently caress up Snow White was a nice touch (and made her seem a lot more evil than she's been in the past), and the show finally had a cohesive tone and narrative goal. Though I completely agree that that character name was completely ludicrous. But I'm used to the real world plots kind of sucking and Kathryn managed to elevate most of it (as well as Emma and Mary Margaret being excellent) so I could overlook it.
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| # ¿ Feb 20, 2012 14:16 |
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I thought maybe he was removing himself from the book.
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| # ¿ Feb 20, 2012 22:01 |
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Yeah this is about the most anti-climatic reason for Regina's anger that they could possibly have. But the little girl that they got to play Snow did a pretty good Ginnifer Goodwin impression at least. Real world is still boring. Definitely feeling that "Lost" pacing.
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