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Horrible Smutbeast
Sep 2, 2011


Runaway Bro posted:

(This should go without saying, but don't click through to the related videos! Jeez!)

Reupload the video and remove those links, one of the first related videos is the endings and contains massive spoilers, man - the video in question even has a deceiving thumbnail. Or at the very least post a polsy link because drat, that's a lot of videos with spoilers.

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orenronen
Nov 7, 2008

I'd better warn you. I have no compassion, sympathy or pity. That's because I'm a bear.


Runaway Bro posted:

(This should go without saying, but don't click through to the related videos! Jeez!)

I'll make it easier for you. If you're going to post Youtube videos related to this game, use polsy. I'm not going to allow direct links to Youtube in this thread from now on, exactly because the related videos are unpredictable and may contain spoilers even in the thumbnail image.

Edit: What makes it even worse is that most DR videos on Youtube have titles and descriptions in Japanese. They're usually pretty good about telling you whether to expect spoilers inside, but that's no use if you can't read the warning.

orenronen fucked around with this message at Mar 2, 2012 around 08:09

ZeeToo
Feb 20, 2008

I'm a kitty!


If you can upload the videos yourself, instead of linking to stuff already on there, OFS found an interesting method for making sure the 'related links' are not spoilers for the game. Could also work here.

Runaway Bro
Sep 7, 2010

I been across the universe and inside of flowers


Huh. Sorry about that! I've gone back and swapped them out with Polsy links.

Figures that this game would be so popular with the MAD crowd and all.

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

However strong the storm may get, if you plant both feet strongly on the ground you will not fall down.


Oh wow Thousand Knocks is so loving good. I'm listening to it over and over and feeling really bad about it because Leon

Ditocoaf
Jun 1, 2011



Runaway Bro posted:

In case anyone's curious, this is from one of the commercials put out before release. It's a parody of a similar sequence in another commercial for the Seibu department store chain in Japan.

Aha, this is great. I wish there were more commercials like this on american TV. (Not that I've watched actual television for a long time.)

massless
Feb 25, 2012


Runaway Bro posted:

In case anyone's curious, this is from one of the commercials put out before release. It's a parody of a similar sequence in another commercial for the Seibu department store chain in Japan.

"Monobear is the One who will bring hope and joy to Japan!" I guess he's not just about despair, after all.

Meanwhile back in real life, the original commercial informs us ever so cheerfully that "the key to brightening up Japan is consumerism!"

BFC
Aug 17, 2011

I'm that guy that has fallen asleep on his keyboard twice during the megamahi;aof

Anyone else notice the back monobear's right eye is different looking?

I wonder why that would be so.

MoonwalkInvincible
Nov 30, 2011



BFC posted:

Anyone else notice the back monobear's right eye is different looking?

I wonder why that would be so.

The back bear in the original commercial had the same thing.

orenronen
Nov 7, 2008

I'd better warn you. I have no compassion, sympathy or pity. That's because I'm a bear.


This is the second part of the Chapter 2 Mondo/Chihiro free time scenes (the first post got too long). For those of you updating in real time, I'm finishing it off in one go! Enjoy!


My stash of presents is getting small on my chapter 2 saves, and most of them are ones that I want to give other people, so for the rest of these scenes I'm going to skip the present stage and go straight to the dialogue. Also, we're going back to Mondo.





Yo, Naegi...
There's something... very important I must ask you.
W...what's wrong? You're so serious all of a sudden...



Just shut up and listen.
So, which do you like? Dogs or cats?
...Huh?





Just answer! I'll kick you if you don't!
Just so you know, I like dogs! So tell me what do you like, you bastard!!

Do I like dogs or cats... I don't think I really have a preference...

But since Oowada-kun likes dogs, I guess...




I like cats / I like bears / I like dogs

I think... I like bears best...



Bears? That's a strange choice for a pet...
Don't tell me, you think Monobear is cute...?



No, let's not talk about that. I have a feeling that fucker will jump out of somewhere and ruin our day.



And anyway! I didn't mention bears at all! I asked if you like dogs or cats!
Give me a straight answer or you're facing a world of hurt!



I like cats / I like bears / I like dogs

I...I guess I also like dogs...



Really? You're not just saying that to please me?
N...no, I mean it...
To tell the truth, I had a dog once... He was a crossbreed, but he sure was cute...



They are, aren't they?! I mean, cats are also cute, but dogs are the best!
So how old is he now?
...I had it when I was a kid. He's been dead for a while now...



I... I see...
I understand your feelings too well...
It hurts... losing the dog you love...
I know how that feels! I do!!
So... did you also have a dog, Oowada-kun?



His name was Chuck. He was a Maltese. He died when he was 9.

A maltese... I was sure it would be a doberman or a bulldog...



He was a very clever dog... Every morning, he brought me the newspaper...
He brought the newspaper in? That's amazing!



And then he'd beg to be taken for a walk as a reward.
He'd look up at me and wag his tail...



Oh... poo poo...! You brought up all those memories...!
Seriously...! It sucks...
Oy, Naegi! Let's change the subject! Ah, it's no use...!



I...I'm going back...!
Oh, Chuck...

Oowada-kun walked away from the room with a face full of pain.

So Oowada-kun... likes dogs. He really likes them...

I think I understand Oowada-kun a little better...


Next, we have our last scene with Mondo.





Naegi, come with me for a second.
Eh? Where are we going?



To my room. I have something to discuss with you...
To your... room?



Let's get going. It's over this way.
Y...yeah...



I accompanied Oowada-kun, and we headed to his room.





...........
Hey, Naegi... Can we have a serious conversation?
A serious conversation...?



I'm not very good with these kind of things...
But, you're the only person I can talk to...
I can't show any weakness in front of the gang, and I don't have anyone of equal status to talk to...
So, will you listen to what I have to say?
Sure... If you think I can be of help...



Are you... having fun being a high-school student?
Eh? Sure, it's fun... But... why are you asking?



I also think it's fun. Being able to fool around with the guys every day.
This short moment in time, riding with the Crazy Diamonds... I can't have enough of it.
Sure, there's lot of pressure about expanding the gang, but...
I wouldn't do it if I weren't having fun, after all.



...But lately I've been thinking.
What am I going to do when high school is over...?
I've dedicated my life to the Crazy Diamonds. After I graduate from the gang, where am I going to go...?
I'm not like the rest of you guys... I'm not very smart...
I can't possibly get into a university... My only choice is to get a job...



I feel... as if my possibilities ended up very limited...
A feeling of meaninglessness? I can't express it very well...
The Crazy Diamonds are the most important thing in the world for me.
That's why... when I think about what my life will be when they are gone...



...It's scary.
I probably even came to this school trying to escape that fear.
I came here... to escape...
Oowada...kun...



Feeling this way... is probably some kind of divine punishment...
You know... for acting recklessly and doing whatever I wanted all the time...
I don't think you're being punished.
I might even say I'm jealous. Having something so important you can lose yourself into like that...
Having had something like that... will surely help you later in life.



..............
For someone who looks like you, you sure say the strangest things.



But, I think you may be right...
I'll be able to do my best later on... exactly because I could spend all that fun time.





Now that I think about it, things don't look so bad anymore!
To tell you the truth, I'm even looking forward for it a little. Working, I mean.
Do you already know what you want to do?



Carpentry! I want to be a carpenter!
Up until now I specialized in breaking things. I think it would be fun to start making them instead.



You'll see! I'll be the best carpenter in the world!
Yeah, I feel you'd be able to reach that level easily.



But... that's something to think about after we escape from this place...
...Let's do our best. We can't lose hope.
Yeah, you're right...



Somehow... It feels good being able to talk to Oowada-kun that way.
I feel I understand him now. That we formed a bond.



Goodbye, Mondo. Finally, and to close things off, the last Chihiro scene.



Hey, Naegi-kun. We made a promise, didn't we?
Eh, A promise...?





...Did you already forget?



We made... a promise... You said you'd tell me about yourself this time...
I see... So you forgot...



Fujisaki-san's shoulders' dropped as she slumped out of the room looking depressed.

...That's right, we did make that promise. This time I was supposed to tell her about myself...

I think I should chase after her...



I ran after Fujisaki-san, and finally reached her room.



..............
Um... listen to me. I didn't forget our promise...
I remember it now, so please don't look so down...



...So, will you tell me now? Something about yourself?
Sure... I don't mind, but...





Really?! That's great! Well then, come have a seat.
Eh? Can I enter your room?



Sure!

It's not natural, letting a boy in so easily... Isn't that far too dangerous...?



Well, let's hear it. Tell me something about yourself.
I don't mind, but... what do you want to know about?



I do have a question.
...Eh? What is it?



How do you usually spend your time, Naegi-kun?
Is that it? Usually I...
...watch television, play video games... sometimes I just idle my time doing nothing.



Eh? What about sports?
...I don't really do any.
Other than PE class, I sometimes go jogging when I'm bored. But that's it.



Eh? In that case... how come you look so fit?
Looking fit? Me?
No, I think I'm probably in the worst shape a man can get!



The worst shape a man can get... is you, Naegi-kun?
So...



............

Somehow... she looks down again...

Hey, what's wrong?



You see, I'm looking for someone strong...
Someone strong...? I think Oogami-san is your best choice...



...No. I'm looking for a guy...

A strong guy... He's used to fighting, so he's probably the best choice...



Togami-kun / Oowada-kun / Oogami-san

Oh, poo poo. Um...



Togami-kun / Oowada-kun / Oogami-san

Hmmm... I can't think of anyone stronger than Oogami-san...



.............

She looks really down... And somehow a little guilty...

Does it really have to be a guy?
Yeah...
I see... So, um...



Togami-kun / Oowada-kun / Oogami-san

Togami-kun might be a good idea.



Togami...kun? Really...?
There are some worrying things about him, but he's never shaken by anything.
Someone who is that confident in himself... that's a kind of strength.
Yeah, I guess...
But... Togami-kun is...
Eh? What's wrong?



No, nothing is wrong, but... Can't you think of anyone other than Togami-kun?

Sigh...



Togami-kun / Oowada-kun / Oogami-san

In that case, Oowada-kun might fit...
As a "Super High-school Level Gang Leader", he's probably the strongest of the guys here...
Oowada-kun... I think you're on to something!
But... why are you even looking for someone strong?



..............

Huh...? She got quiet again...

Maybe... she likes strong men, and that's why she's looking for one?




I want to start working out... My body is weak...
...Eh?



I thought if I asked someone strong for their opinion, it could be helpful.
I see... So that's what you're after...
In that case, I'm sorry. I can't really be of any help...





................
Hey, Naegi-kun? Do you have... a complex about something?
...A complex?



Something you hate about yourself... Something you can't tolerate...
Of course I have things like that.
In my case... it's probably about being too normal.
It's been bothering me even more since I came to this school.
Everyone here has some kind of a "Super High-school level" ability, and I'm the only one who can't do anything...



How do you... overcome those feeling?
...I can't really overcome them.
That's why I try to just accept them. Everyone has their own complexes, after all.
Also, I think if you have time to brood about such things, it's much better to spend it doing something about it...
When you immerse yourself in some activity, it's easy to forget about complexes and other worries.



Immerse yourself... in an activity...



...I see. So that's how it is.
If I don't act, nothing will ever change...



Yeah, I feel like I finally understand something important! It's all thanks to your advice, Naegi-kun!

I wouldn't consider what I said an advice...



...Heh heh heh! Thank you, Naegi-kun!



Nevertheless, if it helped Fujisaki-san, that's good...
I feel I understand her now.

We get the ability "Cheat Code", which strengthens the silencer during the school trial.

MoonwalkInvincible
Nov 30, 2011



Huh, I think that's the first free time update that's actually made me like Naegi even more.

I mean, I like that it built up Mondo and Chihiro, but it's nice to see the too-normal main character get some development, too.


Also, "I like bears best!"

Materant
Jul 22, 2010

see, what you don't understand is he now has

THE MANLIEST MUSTACHE

it defies physics


Well poo poo, the game's implying we just sent Chihiro to his death. Perfect. We are awesome at this.

HenryEx
Mar 24, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...


orenronen posted:

We get the ability "Cheat Code", which strengthens the silencer during the school trial.

Isn't the silencer just "aim at noise, shoot, get time"? How does something like that get stronger?

Amorphous Blob
Jun 26, 2009

Let's all strive to do our best today!


If we had talked to Chihiro earlier, we would have had another hint during the case.

Maizono's room:


Chihiro's room:


Our room:


Boys get blue bedsheets, girls get pink.

Also, what does the sign in Mondo's room say?

orenronen
Nov 7, 2008

I'd better warn you. I have no compassion, sympathy or pity. That's because I'm a bear.


HenryEx posted:

Isn't the silencer just "aim at noise, shoot, get time"? How does something like that get stronger?

I don't actually know, because I've never used that skill and just reporting on what the game says when you get it. My guess is that shooting noise gets you more extra time than without the skill.

Edit: The second line is "Crazy Diamonds", the rest is too pixelated for me to read...

I don't think the game expects anyone to see any of the characters' final scene on the first playthrough. As opposed to Leon, it is possible this time, but probably not very likely.

orenronen fucked around with this message at Mar 2, 2012 around 22:30

MoonwalkInvincible
Nov 30, 2011



Amorphous Blob posted:

Chihiro's room:


Where did Chihiro get that computer setup? A nice-rear end desk chair and at least three monitors. Plus a telescope and some other stuff?

I guess Naegi was just too boring to have anything cool worth bringing along.

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

However strong the storm may get, if you plant both feet strongly on the ground you will not fall down.


Oh my god are you loving kidding me? Mondo and his goddamn dog, holy poo poo. And "you killed Chihiro, well done". I feel horrible now

Man, the guy just didn't know what to do with himself. This is so stupidly depressing. Poor Mondo. He had aspirations and everything. I hate this game for making its characters so loveable.

Also Oren you left that main plot cliffhanger on purpose, didn't you?


e: I'm seriously upset, oh my god.

eating only apples fucked around with this message at Mar 2, 2012 around 22:39

Frostyyy
Feb 24, 2012

You're going to die.

Oh wow. There was some serious foreshadowing for Chihiro there. Though I suppose the chances of someone going for his scenes on their first playthrough aren't all that high.

Volt Catfish
Jan 14, 2010

I'm going to be a slutty nurse. That was my idea.

Wait, so do all these discussions happen "canonically"?


Because if so then we just killed Chihiro...

Wandering Knitter
Feb 5, 2006


Mondo...

SystemLogoff
Feb 19, 2011

Shutting...Down...


NaiveGuy Naegi, why does it seem like when you talk to people things somehow become worse? Is that going to be a running theme?

edit: Brainfart, and typo.

Amorphous Blob
Jun 26, 2009

Let's all strive to do our best today!


MoonwalkInvincible posted:

Where did Chihiro get that computer setup? A nice-rear end desk chair and at least three monitors. Plus a telescope and some other stuff?

Maybe he stole them from the computer lab where we saw the tapes? I don't get why he has a telescope tho. It's not like he can look outside!

MoonwalkInvincible posted:

I guess Naegi was just too boring to have anything cool worth bringing along.

I love how being the cliche protagonist of a visual novel with no personality is kind of his entire thing. This game is REALLY self aware.

legoman727
Mar 13, 2010

You came to challenge me?
Didn't you know?

I'm completely invulnerable.


...So, we killed Chihiro. This game. ;-;

BFC
Aug 17, 2011

I'm that guy that has fallen asleep on his keyboard twice during the megamahi;aof

Volt Catfish posted:

Wait, so do all these discussions happen "canonically"?


Because if so then we just killed Chihiro...
We had no way of knowing. Naegi was just... trying to do the right thing.

This game hits where it hurts and hard.

Omniphile
Apr 5, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!


We really did kill Chihiro. Goddamn it.

PhysicsFrenzy
May 30, 2011

"No matter how many times I flick the switch, the galvanometer remains the same! Why the fuck isn't this working?" --J.D. Colladon, 1825

Nooooo...
Dammit, game. Dammit. As if what happened to Chihiro wasn't bad enough.

VV

PhysicsFrenzy fucked around with this message at Mar 2, 2012 around 23:08

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011

Four Brain Food Lunches and a Coke. ...and some dry white toast.


Not only did we kill Chihiro, but since the murder was so spur of the moment that it was basically a psychotic break, we also indirectly led Mondo to his doom by giving him the opportunity to be a murderer! zetsubou

Twiddy
May 17, 2008

To the man who loves art for its own sake, it is frequently in its least important and lowliest manifestations that the keenest pleasure is to be derived.

legoman727 posted:

...So, we killed Chihiro. This game. ;-;
I refuse to believe this. We were just trying to help him out. We didn't know our actions would lead to his death. This is just what Orenronen Monobear wants us to believe. He wants us to believe that we have agency, that our choices matter in this hosed up world he created. It's his fault. He created this scenario, and we're just acting under it. No matter what...

we...

Didn't kill Chihiro.

Oraculum Animi
Sep 13, 2007


SystemLogoff posted:

NaiveGuy Naegi, why does it seem like when you talk to people things somehow become worse? Is that going to be a running theme?

edit: Brainfart, and typo.

He has the supernatural ability to sap the good fortune out of those around him. Underneath that boring exterior is a burning furnace fueled by other's good luck.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004



Naegi gets a good bit of developement in those final interactions. That's the bit that caught my eye when he talked to Mondo:

orenronen posted:

I might even say I'm jealous. Having something so important you can lose yourself into like that...
Having had something like that... will surely help you later in life.

He's showing a good bit of self awareness there. His lack of a ruling passion (and a certain blandness...) is something plenty of people have griped about and it's nice seeing it acknowledged by the protagonist. Especially since it shows his emotional response to it and how it pains him as well.

He said something similar in his talk with Chihiro but in that case it was more about his lack of an exceptional skill, making him feel a bit uselss, rather than of something to devote his life to and be passionate about.

The Chihiro talk, so close to avoiding disaster. It just happened to be how things played out and there was no way we could have known. It is still painful to see though. The final interaction with Mondo also just twists the knife in the wound. He had his deep weaknesses but again he also had a certain humility and self awareness there. all round.

Munin fucked around with this message at Mar 2, 2012 around 23:37

Asterid
Feb 19, 2012



Dammit game, it's bad enough that you killed two of the best characters, but then you go and make it our fault too.

Oh, and speaking of updates, I finally got around to making more avatars, but after that update...

Asterid fucked around with this message at Mar 2, 2012 around 23:40

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Are you mocking me?

This would have made the murder case awfully easy to solve though.

Ditocoaf
Jun 1, 2011



ImpAtom posted:

This would have made the murder case awfully easy to solve though.
The likelihood of anyone actually encountering this conversation on their first playthrough and getting spoiled is very low. I'm not sure it's actually possible to get that particular Social Link segment without replaying chapters, even.

Rawkking
Sep 4, 2011


If you've invested practically all of your time into one character's social link you pretty much deserve to have that extra edge up on a murder case involving them.

Kimitsu
Jan 11, 2012

The only reason I haven't bought one for myself yet is that I spent my money on other things that I only partially regret now...


Dog-loving Mondo was one heart-wrencher already.

Then oren compounds it with that Chihiro free talk. I know it's the game writing, but this is too much despair for me.

Sherringford
Oct 14, 2010

Murder mysteries are fun.

Antivehicular posted:

Not only did we kill Chihiro, but since the murder was so spur of the moment that it was basically a psychotic break, we also indirectly led Mondo to his doom by giving him the opportunity to be a murderer! zetsubou

I swear, if this leads to Naegi being the mastermind the whole time who was just pushing people to commit murder I'm going to laugh so, so hard.

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

Why aren't the LP threads making what I want to read RIGHT NOW?!


Wow, it's really cool that they gave the characters extra possessions in their room. I thought they'd all be as empty as Naegi's (I guess he's just boring).

Anyone feel like cataloguing all the items in everyone's room? Mondo's is difficult to tell, but he seems to have a red and white checked tablecloth, a baseball bat and lead pipe leaning against the wall...A couple of wall hangings and a giant black fabric poster (can anyone read what the last two say?). It also looks like there's something at the end of the bed, but it's too small and I can't make it out.



Jeek
Feb 15, 2012


What a perfect blend of and . I daresay that all free time activities will make us like the characters more. Yes, even the supergoon.

Sherringford posted:

I swear, if this leads to Naegi being the mastermind the whole time who was just pushing people to commit murder I'm going to laugh so, so hard.
We will see when we finally check out the free time activities of the murderer and victim(s) for this chapter. Maybe it would turn into something like this:


By the way:

Me, on last page posted:

What would be the subject of the next update? Chihiro's free time activity, Mondo's free time activity, the main story, or a combination of the above?

The first one who guess correct gets a free avatar made on subject of his/her choice.

While it turns out to be a combination of the above (which nobody guessed correctly), I have made so many people panic that I will say alcharagia and Haifisch win!

alcharagia posted:

Edit: Mondo's free time, 'cause I like the cut of his jib.

Haifisch posted:

Then I'm going to say Chihiro's free time, since nobody else has guessed that yet.

...but then I'd have to contemplate getting rid of Missile if I win. Oh well, I'm taking that chance anyway.

Winners, please let me know the subject of your avatar so that I can start working ASAP.

P.S.: In case of confusion, I will only be creating the avatars, not actually gifting them.

Edit: Orenronen, you always get a skill or SP increase from any free time activity, right? The Mondo sections seem to have neither.

Oh, and this is artist's rendition of Mondo and Chuck:

Jeek fucked around with this message at Mar 3, 2012 around 01:22

FelicityGS
Dec 31, 2008

What are you doing there, Mr. Dudbear?


Jeek posted:

Yes, even the supergoon.

Woah now, don't get too hasty there. I really doubt that anything will make me like him at all. He's probably the character I like least.

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Hammer Backspace
Jan 3, 2011

we're gonna throw a world domination slumber party and we're not inviting any boys!!!!


We can't let Monobear get to us! The original result of our actions would've been to set up Chihiro and Mondo to be badass workout buddies. That is a fine and noble goal! It was his actions that drove our bros to murder. This game better end with Naegi punching a hole straight through his fluffy felt head.

Also ing at how Monobear gave Chihiro a telescope for her room... and some pictures of the night sky to look at through them. That's just cold.

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