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Antivehicular posted:Alternately, if someone's posing as the opposite gender, they might also be using a fake name. (I know Japan has a lot of unisex first names, but I'm not sure whether "Chihiro" is one of them, so if the male-Chihiro theory is true, he might have a different legal first name.) I'm starting to think this whole "male-Chihiro/secretly a trap!" thing was introduced so a bunch of goons could jerk off to the thought or something, because nobody seems to want to leave that topic alone. I'm guessing that long after this case people will still be making up theories about how she "totally could have been a dude, look at all these screenshots." It's getting really creepy to me seeing that there are almost 100 new replies to the thread and they're all related to whether a character might have a penis or not.
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There will be so much face-rubbing when the question of Fujisaki's gender is never raised in the game at all because she is so obviously a female. 
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:I'm starting to think this whole "male-Chihiro/secretly a trap!" thing was introduced so a bunch of goons could jerk off to the thought or something, because nobody seems to want to leave that topic alone. I'm guessing that long after this case people will still be making up theories about how she "totally could have been a dude, look at all these screenshots." It's getting really creepy to me seeing that there are almost 100 new replies to the thread and they're all related to whether a character might have a penis or not. I don't want to derail this thread much further, but I will say that, if you think the discussion of Chihiro's gender is just for goon-masturbation purposes, you're not really paying attention. I don't subscribe to the theory myself, but this case intimately involves sex-segregated spaces and access to them, so it's entirely germane which of those sex-segregated spaces Chihiro may have had access to naturally, which obviously ties back into her biological sex (and which biological sex her ID card would have been keyed to).
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Antivehicular posted:I don't want to derail this thread much further, but I will say that, if you think the discussion of Chihiro's gender is just for goon-masturbation purposes, you're not really paying attention. I don't subscribe to the theory myself, but this case intimately involves sex-segregated spaces and access to them, so it's entirely germane which of those sex-segregated spaces Chihiro may have had access to naturally, which obviously ties back into her biological sex (and which biological sex her ID card would have been keyed to). There is absolutely nothing in the game other than her shyness that points to her being transgendered. Nothing. Not even a small mention or sidenote like "why did Chihiro get a tool kit like the boys?" People aren't saying it about Sakura who has an extremely muscular/masculine body, or saying Celes is because she doesn't even want to reveal her real name so obviously she must be trans!!!! It's weird and there's no reason to be so attached to that theory. I'm saying this as a more in general thing, not directed completely at you.
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I am certain that something important to investigation is happening right now while Togami is keeping Naegi constrained. So, who is unaccounted for? Togami is with us. Fukawa has sealed herself in her room, Aoi is trying to get her out. Mondo and Sakura are keeping an eye on each other. So that leaves Ishimaru, Hifumi, Kirigiri, Hagakure and Celes. If it was something like, simply finding a piece of evidence or something then the scene doesn't need Naegi controlled. It has to be something more involved. So my hypothesis is: One of these five (four, let's discard Kirigiri) is the killer, and is currently trying to destroy evidence. Later a part of the investigation/trial will be dedicated to tracking what everybody was doing after the discovery of the corpse.
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Plus they're thinking of the hints in western terms of female empowerment (as in Chihiro simply wanting to be stronger and able to defend her/himself) rather than through the lens of Otaku culture... especially considering the recent boom in TG/crossdresser characters. I'm not quite sure myself, but let's just say I don't see any people on this side of the argument insulting the ones thinking s/he is female.
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:I'm starting to think this whole "male-Chihiro/secretly a trap!" thing was introduced so a bunch of goons could jerk off to the thought or something, because nobody seems to want to leave that topic alone. I'm guessing that long after this case people will still be making up theories about how she "totally could have been a dude, look at all these screenshots." It's getting really creepy to me seeing that there are almost 100 new replies to the thread and they're all related to whether a character might have a penis or not. "Alternately, if someone's posing as the opposite gender, they might also be using a fake name. (I know Japan has a lot of unisex first names, but I'm not sure whether "Chihiro" is one of them, so if the male-Chihiro theory is true, he might have a different legal first name.)" Not only does the statement have an if clause, but the theory was brought up in a generic context. If the person is allowed to freely theorize, why can't they reference some of the more popular theories with sparse evidence, such as the claim that the Literary Girl is a serial killer. However, despite it being a theory and claim like any other theory/claim with its own batch of evidence, people are responding vehemently and aggressively against it. Why? Do they feel threatened? Are they under the perception that because people might imagine that x character is cross-dressing, that that person is some kind of creep? Do they not want to be in the same thread as said creep? The problem doesn't seem to be the theory itself, as it's a theory just like any other half-assed theory that's come up in this thread. The problem is the immense, unwarranted, and unnecessary backlash to an idea. EDIT: Also, a lot of the circumstantial evidence that might support the claim isn't in the events themselves, it's how the game is presenting the events. For example, a girl wanting to get stronger isn't in itself strange. Personal anecdote, I knew a girl once (a dancer) who wanted to work on her upper body muscles. Her lower body was very strong, but she felt that she looked lanky and disproportionate, so she worked hard on her upper body strength. In and of itself, the phenomenon isn't strange. However, the game is presenting it as out of place, unfeminine, and peculiar. The way the game is treating the subject matter is the evidence, not the fact that Chihiro wants to become stronger. Twiddy fucked around with this message at Jan 12, 2012 around 22:38 |
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:There is absolutely nothing in the game other than her shyness that points to her being transgendered. Nothing. Not even a small mention or sidenote like "why did Chihiro get a tool kit like the boys?" People aren't saying it about Sakura who has an extremely muscular/masculine body, or saying Celes is because she doesn't even want to reveal her real name so obviously she must be trans!!!! It's weird and there's no reason to be so attached to that theory. I'm saying this as a more in general thing, not directed completely at you. Well, at least you didn't outright insult everyone on the other side of the argument like the last guy by adding a couple of conditionals. Personally his/her shyness made me think she was a girl despite the theories of others (though it planted a seed of doubt since I know it's featured more in recent publications). Anyway there's a number of hints throughout the game, I'm not going to list them up, there are others who would be better at that, but the biggest flag was where s/he responded to Oogawa's belief that men must be strong with something like 'I want to be stronger'. In terms of women's emancipation that'd be 'she wants to be a strong, independent woman'. In an Otaku game that's basically saying that barring plot twists the character is a dude. cwDeici fucked around with this message at Jan 12, 2012 around 23:07 |
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The theory initially gained traction because we were just shown a set of gender-based locks and it was pretty much guaranteed that they were going to play a role in the next case one way or another. So it's not like people were just HAY GUYS I'M PRETTY SURE CHIHIRO IS ACTUALLY A CROSSDRESSER out of the blue for no game-related reason. ...well, okay, several people did do exactly that back when she was introduced. But nobody really gave a poo poo until we got the giant red flag proclaiming that there was going to be some kind of gender-based twist.
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I think there's another reason why the crossdressing theory took hold. Looking back on the OP's comments, he's been alluding to a HUGE TWIST coming up soon.orenronen posted:Regarding fanart, there is a large amount of it out there that outright spoils the endgame. There's even more that spoils a major revelation that's actually coming up pretty soon. You'll know it when you see it. It's not just fanart - I've seen cosplay pictures that spoil both. I'll continue posting safe art in the thread for people to enjoy. Now what sort of twist would be given away by fanart and cosplay? I can think of two possibilities that could be revealed by the end of this chapter: 1. The identity of Genocider Syo. 2. Somebody is not the gender we think they are. Since I don't think they'll tell us flat out who Genocider Syo is just yet (and it's too soon for him/her to be the real killer), that explains why people have latched on to the latter idea. Personally, I'm not sure. There might be a third possibility that none of us could have guessed. Wyvernil fucked around with this message at Jan 12, 2012 around 22:55 |
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Wyvernil posted:There might be a third possibility that none of us could have guessed. Sixteenth student 
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A little bit before the biggest hint (there's numerous others, but I don't have the time so I just looked up what I think is the most obvious)...: but first; the post of someone who obviously knows their Otaku genres: Coughman posted:I can only pray that this chapter ends with rich boy getting sliced to ribbons by thousands of Yen notes. The big hint: orenronen posted:
This made up the mind for most people who still thought she was a girl but weren't sure (including me). Once again, the above has to been seen in the perspective of the subculture of Otaku and the recent trend in more TG characters and plots. cwDeici fucked around with this message at Jan 12, 2012 around 23:23 |
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Ah, I see, so it’s Oowada’s fault you feel down...
Huh, my fault!?
U...uuuuu...uuuuu......
H...hey... Are you crying...?
It’s because you raised your voice at her, isn’t it...?
H...hey, don’t cry... I... I’m sorry... I won’t shout again...
Y...you don’t have to be so mean...!
Your word... as a man...?
I told that story before...
“Left”...?
Aa... My brother is dead...
I’m... sorry...
Well, let’s leave that story for another time. I can’t let my eyes get wet right now!
But anyway... I will definitely not shout at you again. So you don’t have to cry anymore!
Thank you... Oowada-kun...
S...sure....
...No, I want to become stronger.
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:There is absolutely nothing in the game other than her shyness that points to her being transgendered. Nothing. Not even a small mention or sidenote like "why did Chihiro get a tool kit like the boys?" People aren't saying it about Sakura who has an extremely muscular/masculine body, or saying Celes is because she doesn't even want to reveal her real name so obviously she must be trans!!!! It's weird and there's no reason to be so attached to that theory. I'm saying this as a more in general thing, not directed completely at you. Gabriel Pope posted:The theory initially gained traction because we were just shown a set of gender-based locks and it was pretty much guaranteed that they were going to play a role in the next case one way or another. So it's not like people were just HAY GUYS I'M PRETTY SURE CHIHIRO IS ACTUALLY A CROSSDRESSER out of the blue for no game-related reason. This. We start with the premise "Gender is going to be important", move to "Gender will be a twist" which implies "Someone is crossdressing/transexual". From there, we ask WHO could be crossdressing, and the moment we ask the question (or the moment *I* asked the question, at any rate) up pops Chihiro stating she doesn't want to be seen in a swimsuit, refuses to enter the gender-locked-doors for any reason despite stating desire to do so, and keeps hiding and skulking around the issue, again despite showing specific interest in the subject ("getting stronger", "train with me", etc). When you have the conclusion "SOMEONE is going to have gender issues" then the question of who it is, is pretty plain. Blatent even. Extremely obvious in pseudo-retrospect. If gender wasn't going to be an issue at all, no, I agree, there's nothing to say that Chihiro is anything but shy, although if you have a proverbial gerbil on your shoulder as that one guy did (who also thinks our protagonist is trans  ) you'd still see it. But basically, you have to start from the end point and work backwards.And there is PLENTY of reason to do so in this chapter.
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^^^ Well, to be fair, isn't Makoto traditionally a lady's name? If orenronen is phrasing the names traditionally it's Naegi's surname, of course... but Naegi is somewhat of a curious name to me, too. For... reasons.Wyvernil posted:I think there's another reason that the crossdressing theory took hold. Looking back on the OP's comments, he's been alluding to a HUGE TWIST coming up soon. Mixed-gender cosplay is sort of a thing, regardless of character. You'll see a lot of girls trussed up as, say, Metal Gear fellas or their favourite stud from whatever anime they're watching, and a fair amount of guys shuffling about as female characters. It's more common in Japan, I think, but at the same time I saw the most amazing male Mystique at the last San Diego Comic Con I made it to. I just want to say, guys, we really don't have enough evidence to be putting theories together like this. A lot of this is blind-firing based on a vague indication of something. I think the only concrete point we can make is, Togami is being awfully leading - suggesting he's up to something, as has been discussed. Clearly the IDs are going to come into play at some point, but there are many ways they could be used for ~nefarious misdeeds~ above and beyond simple gender camouflage. With Kirigiri examining the body as closely as she is, there's certainly something more to discover from Chihiro's remains. It might be an issue of gender. It might also be that she died not from a head wound, as the autopsy report states. It could also be that she's a kleptomaniac and has loot stashed all over her body. This is a game about misdirection. Don't become too glued to any one hypothesis, until we know enough for the trial. doomfunk fucked around with this message at Jan 12, 2012 around 23:03 |
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I'm really glad it was Chihiro that died and we'll have the stupid gender debate behind us by the end of the chapter. (Although I'm worried that unless the game explicitly provides us with a picture of her lady parts some people will still cling to the idea of her being male)
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Iunnrais posted:If gender wasn't going to be an issue at all, no, I agree, there's nothing to say that Chihiro is anything but shy, although if you have a proverbial gerbil on your shoulder as that one guy did (who also thinks our protagonist is trans That guy was entertainingly nuts, thinking Naegi is a girl. His whole thing about Monobear representing society is probably correct though. I'm also pretty definite this isn't his dream, though I note many of the voice actors have voiced Persona characters earlier. Chihiro is a different matter alltogether. As some posters have gone to lengths to insult those who think she is TG/Crossdresser I'm going to go out on a limb here and say those people insulting us don't understand the Genshiken of Japan these days. cwDeici fucked around with this message at Jan 12, 2012 around 23:21 |
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Mecharasputin posted:(Although I'm worried that unless the game explicitly provides us with a picture of her lady parts some people will still cling to the idea of her being male) That would both be really fuckin' crass and pointless for anyone who is going on that theory; let's not get hyperbolic. I'm gonna say that in the next update - maybe 2 updates - we'll have all the evidence, at which point the answer will be perfectly clear. I will be incredibly surprised if the debate will continue beyond that.
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cwDeici posted:A little bit before the biggest hint (there's numerous others, but I don't have the time so I just looked up what I think is the most obvious)...: Except, as already mentioned, this game has a habit of messing around with people's expectations, so the things that people think would be hints that Chihiro is hiding something of that sort could also just be the game messing around with the average Japanese gamer's perception of that sort of character. I'm of the opinion that there isn't any solid way to determine it for now, so I've been theorizing off of both possibilities. Incidentally, the locks, as presented, don't pose too much of an obstacle for the killer nor the victim, because there were both female and male cards available for use. Remember, the murder occurred while most of everyone was asleep, so any number of cards could have been shuffled around between the changing rooms and the storage bin before and after the murder. Now, we don't know which room the murder occurred in, nor do we know whether the inoperable card is Chihiro's or Leon's. These are the two crucial pieces of evidence that would allow us to determine for sure whether Chihiro is female or not, because if the murder happened in the male changing room and the inoperable card is Leon's, there you go. Otherwise, if the murder occurred in the female changing room, we still can't know for certain, because if Chihiro was female, she'd have her own card and the killer could just take one of the two dead ladies' cards. On the other hand, if Chihiro was male, that wouldn't present an issue, because there would still be two female cards available for use. Until we get someone else's testimony about that evening, any number of things could have happened. I guess what I'm mostly saying is that there isn't sufficient evidence to make a definitive case for either one, so there's no point in getting angry over it.
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Mecharasputin posted:I'm really glad it was Chihiro that died and we'll have the stupid gender debate behind us by the end of the chapter. Okay, this has gotten way too creepy now. Maybe i should start using the sort-by-author feature right about now.
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Mecharasputin posted:I'm really glad it was Chihiro that died and we'll have the stupid gender debate behind us by the end of the chapter. And you think that there won't be any more debates on hinted subjects? You poor poor fool.
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doomfunk posted:It might be an issue of gender. It might also be that she died not from a head wound, as the autopsy report states. It could also be that she's a kleptomaniac and has loot stashed all over her body. Oh poo poo, does that mean Kirigiri is secretly the Super Highschool level World of Warcraft player? How much phat loot did she get from the last body!?
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Bocc Kob posted:Why does it have to be looked at from the perspective of the otaku subculture, anyway? Because that's who the game was targeted towards and whose expectations the developers would have been looking to pander to or subvert.
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Opposing Farce posted:Because that's who the game was targeted towards and whose expectations the developers would have been looking to pander to or subvert. Then wouldn't the people in the game assume she's trans and be proven wrong? It doesn't seem like Japanese media is devoid of "strong" women who are still extremely feminine, like almost every single Miyazaki movie. Becoming stronger, or overcoming "womanly weakness" seems to be a trope in asia in itself anyway.
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Opposing Farce posted:Because that's who the game was targeted towards and whose expectations the developers would have been looking to pander to or subvert. Really? I figured the game was targeted toward mystery game fans, being a mystery game and all. 
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:Oh poo poo, does that mean Kirigiri is secretly the Super Highschool level World of Warcraft player? How much phat loot did she get from the last body!? On the last day there'll be three people left, and two of them will be like oh poo poo I guess we're stuck here forever, and then Kirigiri will pull her flying mount out of her rear end and just soar away. When she leaves, the last two people will be Naegi and Goonbro.
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This thread owns and I have voted accordingly. Fantastic work sir. I'm personally avoiding any theorytalk because I think it will just spoil the surprise and stuff (also it avoids any creeps debates)
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Bocc Kob posted:Why does it have to be looked at from the perspective of the otaku subculture, anyway? Because they're buying the game? Bocc Kob posted:Really? I figured the game was targeted toward mystery game fans, being a mystery game and all. Non-Otaku Japanese mostly wouldn't want to be seen to be playing this game. It is steeped in the subculture. You'll notice the fanboy isn't dead yet and has been a vehicle for making references half his screentime. Horrible Smutbeast posted:Then wouldn't the people in the game assume she's trans and be proven wrong? It doesn't seem like Japanese media is devoid of "strong" women who are still extremely feminine, like almost every single Miyazaki movie. Becoming stronger, or overcoming "womanly weakness" seems to be a trope in asia in itself anyway. The characters in the game aren't Otaku except for the one guy who is too busy swooning over Chihiro-'tan' (I'm curious how he will react when he finds out), plus that'd spoil the mystery. There's a reason Miyazaki made feminism and environmentalism the central theme of every single movie of (his that I have seen), namely that Japanese society needs it. Blastinus posted:Except, as already mentioned, this game has a habit of messing around with people's expectations, so the things that people think would be hints that Chihiro is hiding something of that sort could also just be the game messing around with the average Japanese gamer's perception of that sort of character. I'm of the opinion that there isn't any solid way to determine it for now, so I've been theorizing off of both possibilities. Most Japanese gamers, without the benefit of a thread's worth of staggered analysis would just think Chihiro is very moe on a regular speed playthrough, same reason why orenronen didn't see much of the stuff coming that's been mostly predicted by a vocal minority to majority. But I respect your view and look forward to seeing the story play off towards both possibilities as well! Blastinus posted:I guess what I'm mostly saying is that there isn't sufficient evidence to make a definitive case for either one, so there's no point in getting angry over it. I'm not sure whether you're referring to the numerous posters who've said everyone who thinks Chihiro is a boy is a pervert in numerous imaginative and insulting fashions because they're tired of the topic and convinced they're right, or that I am complaining about them calmly in the posts above. Personally I stopped posting about his/her gender several pages ago until I noticed that inflammatory post at the top of this page with barely any contingency modifiers to it...: Horrible Smutbeast posted:I'm starting to think this whole "male-Chihiro/secretly a trap!" thing was introduced so a bunch of goons could jerk off to the thought or something, because nobody seems to want to leave that topic alone. I'm guessing that long after this case people will still be making up theories about how she "totally could have been a dude, look at all these screenshots." It's getting really creepy to me seeing that there are almost 100 new replies to the thread and they're all related to whether a character might have a penis or not. the handle is fitting irony, considering the accusation. Even moreso that this was the post that dragged the whole drat subject back up again because of some idle speculation it misunderstood from the page before. Also the next post said that there was absolutely no proof whatsoever... I've played a few games and visual novels of this type and as a last word I can say it doesn't get much clearer than this:  I didn’t have any bad intentions, did I!? Isn’t it natural for girls to be weak, for the most part!? ............*Chihiro is killed in a gender-exclusive zone* *Kirigiri pats down the body* *game sows open doubt on the exclusivity of cards for the gender-exclusive zones* The game is probably setting up for either a double twist or more likely trying to make it easier on the player because it's supposed to be a difficult logical leap, especially for moe-obsessed B-type Otakus. This is my last post on the topic, which I quit once already several pages ago, this time I will not make any rebuttals to further insults against people holding one side of an argument about a game. I look forward to that issue of this case being cleared up so we can move on... hopefully if we turn out to be correct the critics of the theory won't go on to insult the game instead of the posters who thought it would turn out like that. cwDeici fucked around with this message at Jan 13, 2012 around 00:27 |
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e: Why am I even fueling the sex debate any longer? Let's just see the next chapter
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The first case involved a twist re: who was the aggressor. The assumption then becomes that all cases will have a twist until proven otherwise.
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Mecharasputin posted:Why did we move to "Gender will be a twist" in the first place? Is it only because of "gender will be important" + "there will be a twist"? Pretty much, that is exactly the jump that was made.
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doomfunk posted:^^^ Well, to be fair, isn't Makoto traditionally a lady's name? If orenronen is phrasing the names traditionally it's Naegi's surname, of course... but Naegi is somewhat of a curious name to me, too. For... reasons.
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Antivehicular posted:Makoto is a unisex name, actually. I'm not sure what the ratio of use of it as a male vs. female name is, but the first person it makes me think of is Makoto Nagano, who is most emphatically not a woman. Naegi is a Super High School Level Fisherman. Mystery solved!
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Mecharasputin posted:Naegi is a Super High School Level Fisherman. Mystery solved! A fisherman like the love interest of Touko's novels? The plot thickens!! Also I will be so happy when this trial is over so people will stop posting about Chihiro's gender oh goodness am I excited!
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By the way guys, one thing is bothering me about the theory that Chihiro was killed in the male changing room, and I hope you guys would be able to provide an explanation. You see, while it's all well and good to say that the carpet and poster could have been moved without creating a mess, if you're going to write something as intricate as the Bloodstain Fever message, you're going to need a decent flow of blood coming out of Chihiro's forehead, right? So if she was transported between rooms, where's the blood on the floor between the rooms? It looks like it's carpeted, so getting it out would be hard if it was there, and I don't see the killer being able to prevent Chihiro from bleeding and write that message at the same time. I've got two ideas about that myself, though I can't be sure if they make sense. First, she could have been wrapped in the carpet and carried that way, but it's a pretty big carpet, so I'm not sure how likely that would be. Alternatively, it could just be that the killer hit her in the head again after moving the body to start up the blood flow again after it was clotted the first time. Be a lot easier to transport the body if it isn't bleeding, after all.
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Blastinus posted:By the way guys, one thing is bothering me about the theory that Chihiro was killed in the male changing room, and I hope you guys would be able to provide an explanation. You see, while it's all well and good to say that the carpet and poster could have been moved without creating a mess, if you're going to write something as intricate as the Bloodstain Fever message, you're going to need a decent flow of blood coming out of Chihiro's forehead, right? So if she was transported between rooms, where's the blood on the floor between the rooms? It looks like it's carpeted, so getting it out would be hard if it was there, and I don't see the killer being able to prevent Chihiro from bleeding and write that message at the same time. That's a really good point. The blood has to go somewhere, so it makes sense that it would have been a problem between the two rooms.
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I think, when the whole "she was killed in the male changing room" thing kicked off, everyone was under the assumption that the first thing we'd do after leaving the female room is investigate the male one. Instead we're getting dragged around by Togami. Anyone would think he doesn't want us looking there...
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Fedule posted:I think, when the whole "she was killed in the male changing room" thing kicked off, everyone was under the assumption that the first thing we'd do after leaving the female room is investigate the male one. Instead we're getting dragged around by Togami. Anyone would think he doesn't want us looking there... Yes, it is being set up rather aggressively. I'd suspect him if I wasn't sure Chihiro wouldn't trust him to request his assistance.
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On a non-speculative note, the music in this update was pretty rad.
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Chihiro might go to him naively trying to persuade him over to her position though. It seems like the sort of thing she would do.
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