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MadRhetoric
Feb 18, 2011

I POSSESS QUESTIONABLE TASTE IN TOUHOU GAMES


I think the most important mystery so far is why Swimmer McFanservice is constantly shown with donuts in artwork but hasn't eaten a single one yet. If we figure that out, all the game's mysteries will fall into place

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Jeabus Mahogany
Feb 13, 2011

I'm mad because of a thorn in my impenetrable hide

"Wow, hey, that all looks pretty coo-"
*accidentally scrolls a bit further down*

Lance Streetman
Feb 20, 2011

Who needs armor when you've got mittens?





Ed: But yeah, that Hoodie looks sweet.

Twiddy
May 17, 2008

To the man who loves art for its own sake, it is frequently in its least important and lowliest manifestations that the keenest pleasure is to be derived.

MadRhetoric posted:

I think the most important mystery so far is why Swimmer McFanservice is constantly shown with donuts in artwork but hasn't eaten a single one yet. If we figure that out, all the game's mysteries will fall into place
Because the depth to her character is SHE EATS DONUTS ALL THE TIME AND DOESN'T GET FAT AND ALL HER GIRLFRIENDS HATE HER FOR IT!

Despite the fact that, as I know from having 2 female swimmers in my family, they burn enough energy that they can usually eat whatever they want and still stay slim.

ArcadePark
Feb 4, 2011


MadRhetoric posted:

I think the most important mystery so far is why Swimmer McFanservice is constantly shown with donuts in artwork but hasn't eaten a single one yet. If we figure that out, all the game's mysteries will fall into place

Maybe it's because we haven't gotten to a donut to eat yet? It's not like the school has a built in Dunkin' Donuts (all puns intended) around here. More importantly, we haven't seen her in her swimsuit swimming, but that's also because we don't have a pool, so there.

Bocc Kob
Oct 26, 2010


Why would a Super High-School Level Swimmer attend a high school with no swimming pool?

That's it, she's the real serial killer.

ArcadePark
Feb 4, 2011


Bocc Kob posted:

Why would a Super High-School Level Swimmer attend a high school with no swimming pool?

That's it, she's the real serial killer.

Maybe, but then again, a lot of facilities have been blocked off/reconstructed by Monobear, so we don't know for sure.

Kgummy
Aug 14, 2009


Well, clearly the swimming pool is on the second floor of the school. Or the lack of one is one of the differences between the blueprint of the first floor and where they actually are.

Krysmphoenix
Jul 29, 2010

BAHAMUT.
Torch 'im.
I don't want to see
even ashes left.


I'm going to predict as people get killed off, Monobear is going to open up more facilities, for no other reason than to allow the player the opportunity to find more Monobear tokens.

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger


Krysmphoenix posted:

I'm going to predict as people get killed off, Monobear is going to open up more facilities, for no other reason than to allow the player the opportunity to find more Monobear tokens.

Well it would also provide more opportunities for "creative problem solving". I mean, think of the irony; Aoi Asahina drowned in the pool, Chihiro Fujisaki dies after being exposed to Starcraft in the computer lab and playing for five days non-stop... I'm sure there are other possibilities too.

Cathulhu
Oct 12, 2011

The cuddlier and more pronounceable
eldritch horror.


MadRhetoric posted:

I think the most important mystery so far is why Swimmer McFanservice is constantly shown with donuts in artwork but hasn't eaten a single one yet. If we figure that out, all the game's mysteries will fall into place

She won't be able to handle the pressure of the situation and resorts to binge eating, eventually surpassing Archgoon McAnimeguy in girth.

orenronen
Nov 7, 2008

I'd better warn you. I have no compassion, sympathy or pity. That's because I'm a bear.


Jeabus Mahogany posted:

"Wow, hey, that all looks pretty coo-"
*accidentally scrolls a bit further down*


The second game whose merchandise are on display on that page is called, and I'm not kidding, "Maid☆Paradise ~ Aim For It! Maid Number One!~".

1st Stage Midboss
Oct 29, 2011


orenronen posted:

The second game whose merchandise are on display on that page is called, and I'm not kidding, "Maid☆Paradise ~ Aim For It! Maid Number One!~".

Suddenly there's a part of me that's a little surprised Dangan Ronpa's cast doesn't include a Super High-school Level Maid.

Gideon020
Apr 23, 2011


Yes, because domestic servants are never a suspect in murders.

ArcadePark
Feb 4, 2011


Gideon020 posted:

Yes, because domestic servants are never a suspect in murders.

You're thinking of Super High School Level Butlers. We are talking about Super High School level Maids. I guess the closest we have is the goth-loli gambler chick.

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger


Amadeus Windfall posted:

Suddenly there's a part of me that's a little surprised Dangan Ronpa's cast doesn't include a Super High-school Level Maid.

Student 16!

Alternatively, yet another possible description try and replace Kirigi's ???.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003

Would you think I was playing if I did...
THIS!


MadRhetoric posted:

I think the most important mystery so far is why Swimmer McFanservice is constantly shown with donuts in artwork but hasn't eaten a single one yet. If we figure that out, all the game's mysteries will fall into place
There is official artwork of her with donuts in the first post!

... I am not sure why, but there we are!

Kgummy posted:

Well, clearly the swimming pool is on the second floor of the school. Or the lack of one is one of the differences between the blueprint of the first floor and where they actually are.
Or it's outside somewhere?

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011



Zereth posted:

There is official artwork of her with donuts in the first post!

... I am not sure why, but there we are!

She'll probably have some sort of weight problem or something along those lines.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

PhysicsFrenzy posted:

I saw the phone charms before. I wonder if the secret ones are characters from the other set, or maybe characters we haven't been introduced to yet?

If the spots marked "secret" are characters that appear later (and are dummied out to prevent story spoilers), perhaps there is some merit to the theory that we'll be getting a super high school-level transfer student. After all, there is that conspicuous empty seat in the trial room...

MadRhetoric
Feb 18, 2011

I POSSESS QUESTIONABLE TASTE IN TOUHOU GAMES


orenronen posted:

The second game whose merchandise are on display on that page is called, and I'm not kidding, "Maid☆Paradise ~ Aim For It! Maid Number One!~".

That was pretty weird to read, because I thought it was the company trolling like with Maizono in the promo material.

slouch
Mar 10, 2009



ArcadePark posted:

Maybe it's because we haven't gotten to a donut to eat yet? It's not like the school has a built in Dunkin' Donuts (all puns intended) around here. More importantly, we haven't seen her in her swimsuit swimming, but that's also because we don't have a pool, so there.

Ironically, most of the kids special talents have been rendered all but useless since they were trapped inside the school.

(Literary Girl) Touko Fukawa can't publish her books
(Idol Chick) Sayak Maizono couldn't do any pop-starring
(Baseball Dude) Leon Kuwata can't play any baseball
(Doujin Author / Otaku Freak) Hifumi Yamada can't publish his works or get anything new to watch.
(Super Swimmer) Aoi Asahina can't do any swimming
(Hyper Hacker) Chihiro Fujisaki has no systems to hack into
(Gang Leader) Mondo Oowada has no gang to lead
(Wrestle Maniac) Sakura Oogami can't do any real wrestling
(Rich Fucker) Byakuya Togami is probably cut off from his family's fortune. And I don't know the yen to monobear coin exchange rate.
(Fortune Teller) Yasuhiro Hagakure probably doesn't have much of a future left to tell
(Gambling Addict) Celestia Ludenberg has nobody to go high stakes against.

All of the character arts show characters doing things they can't do while trapped inside the school.

Also, regarding the ~secret~ phone chains - Those are probably just special Ultra S Limited Edition Holographic 3D MegaRare versions of already existing characters.

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

Why aren't the LP threads making what I want to read RIGHT NOW?!


Leon used his baseball skillz to dispose of evidence, so that's at least one use right there.

And you would have thought that Maizono could've used her mind-reading powers to sense when someone was about to attack her. Speaking of which, what was even the point of having all those mind-reading/good intuitions references? Total waste of time and completely meaningless following her early death.

Six Of Spades
Oct 24, 2010

"...That too is according to my calculations."


The Saurus posted:

Speaking of which, what was even the point of having all those mind-reading/good intuitions references? Total waste of time and completely meaningless following her early death.

Plot fake-outs, dude. And it worked like a goddamn charm.

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

You're maxed out!
Hard as a rock~<3


I really like Dangan Ronpa's writing for that exact thing, killing off a character right as they started building her up was the same as punching people like me who are usually able to take apart stories and make correct assumptions way early on in the goddamn throat. The tension is completely ratcheted up, nobody is safe.

Though I suspect the next few deaths will be characters that are relatively throwaway, so that they don't dilute the impact.

PlasmaMan
Sep 6, 2009

I LIED


slouch posted:

(Hyper Hacker) Chihiro Fujisaki has no systems to hack into

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

madam, your hydraulic pressure is atrocious!

quote:

(Gambling Addict) Celestia Ludenberg has nobody to go high stakes against.

Going life or death is about as high that stakes can go.

Iunnrais
Jul 25, 2007

It's gaelic.

slouch posted:

(Wrestle Maniac) Sakura Oogami can't do any real wrestling

I'll grant she can't do REAL wrestling on a regular basis here, that is, against an opponent, but it's been stated she's been able to keep in shape regardless. Even so, I'd hardly say that her special talent has been rendered useless in this situation-- if someone needs to be wrestled to the floor, say, because they're trying to kill someone, she can do it.

ArcadePark
Feb 4, 2011


slouch posted:

(Wrestle Maniac) Sakura Oogami can't do any real wrestling


Sakura isn't a wreslter; she's a martial artist, and the purpose of being a martial artist isn't to battle, but to become stronger. Plus, I bet they supply some quality protein in this place.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHnMDGIbFkc

I think that on the contrary, each student probably has an ability useful to the situation.

If the hacker can gain access to the school's systems, it would be massively useful to control the cameras, the security devices, even Monobear himself.
The doujin artist seems to have a good eye for detail. Note that he was the second to realise the meaning of the 'numbers', and he didn't have a chance to examine it closely.
The fortune teller seems to be a good liar, or maybe just good at playing a fool.
The gambler is good at playing the odds, and also hiding things.
The heir is possibly connected with the construction of the place. Note the similarity of the crown in his character art, to the crown that is part of the emblem for the school.
The delinquent and the wrestler are both good fighters.
The literary girl is probably good at concocting plausible plotlines. Or maybe she's just ugly.

ArcadePark
Feb 4, 2011


Fangz posted:

I think that on the contrary, each student probably has an ability useful to the situation.

If the hacker can gain access to the school's systems, it would be massively useful to control the cameras, the security devices, even Monobear himself.
The doujin artist seems to have a good eye for detail. Note that he was the second to realise the meaning of the 'numbers', and he didn't have a chance to examine it closely.
The fortune teller seems to be a good liar, or maybe just good at playing a fool.
The gambler is good at playing the odds, and also hiding things.
The heir is possibly connected with the construction of the place. Note the similarity of the crown in his character art, to the crown that is part of the emblem for the school.
The delinquent and the wrestler are both good fighters.
The literary girl is probably good at concocting plausible plotlines. Or maybe she's just ugly.

Did I mention that Sakura is a super high school level martial artist? I wouldn't be surprised if a body was found with signs of blunt hits but no weapons found.

Breadmaster
Jun 14, 2010


ArcadePark posted:

Did I mention that Sakura is a super high school level martial artist? I wouldn't be surprised if a body was found with signs of blunt hits but no weapons found.

Or no sign of hits, if she knows a body well enough to kill without leaving a mark.

Son Conan
Sep 25, 2007



I just spent all evening catching up with this thread, and I am loving the crap out of this game so far. Especially the art style; the 3D stages with the 2D characters makes me think of the FMV Clue games from the mid-90s (which I loved playing). The fact that I'm a sucker for mystery stories and this kind of faux-visual novel style also helps a lot.

I can't really throw in any speculation, though, as pretty much everything I think has been said.

freeforumuser
Aug 11, 2007


I'm wondering how the execution would actually be like.

CremePudding
Oct 30, 2011


Semiru posted:

I like this line of thinking - she's survived a previous Monobear game (the last other student being shot off in a rocket) and her prize is to graduate to here. She'll help us all the way through to the final case when Monobear reveals that she murdered her way through a previous game. Naegi of course still believes in her or something equally cheesy and they take down Monobear together.

Super High-school Level Primary School Graduate?

I can see why they have to use ??? instead of that

ookuwagata
Aug 25, 2007

I love you this much!

So I guess I guessed it more or less correctly then?

If the hacker girl hacked Monobear to kill someone, like reprogrammed him, would Monobear technically be the murderer? Or would Monobear consider himself a murder weapon?

Mithross
Apr 27, 2011

Hi hi hi. You come buying? You can sell, too. I, Mr. Saturn, boing, can do all for you. You want buy, zoom?


ookuwagata posted:

If the hacker girl hacked Monobear to kill someone, like reprogrammed him, would Monobear technically be the murderer? Or would Monobear consider himself a murder weapon?

He'd probably consider himself the murder weapon. But since it's a punishable offense to mess with Monobear, she still wouldn't graduate.

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


I sort of doubt that Monobear is an AI. Why would the person controlling the bears be the murderer if they were not controlling the bears at the time?

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

heh


Just found this thread.

Bookmarked, 5'd, hurryuphurryuphurryup I must know what happens next!

Good game, how'd you find this little gem?

Materant
Jul 22, 2010

see, what you don't understand is he now has

THE MANLIEST MUSTACHE

it defies physics


Mithross posted:

He'd probably consider himself the murder weapon. But since it's a punishable offense to mess with Monobear, she still wouldn't graduate.

No. It's a punishable offense to do harm to Monobear. Therefore, if Monobear happens to be mechanical (I sincerely doubt he isn't), and she could actually convince him to let her mess with his programming (a feat in and of itself, since she could use that as leverage over him), Monobear could be considered the ultimate weapon, since no one can fight against him.

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orenronen
Nov 7, 2008

I'd better warn you. I have no compassion, sympathy or pity. That's because I'm a bear.


SatansBestBuddy posted:

Good game, how'd you find this little gem?

For one thing, I follow Japanese gaming press. Also, I was living in Japan at the time and there were plenty of in-store ads and videos leading to the release. I bought it the day it came out.

Next update is being worked on. I thought I was much closer to the end of the chapter, but I forgot how much dialog is in this thing. I don't want to split this up, so you're getting a very long update next. The good news is that it's translated, the video is recorded, and screenshots were taken. All that's left is composing the post, but that alone is a few hours' work...

I foresee an explosion in reply numbers after it's posted.

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