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IronSaber posted:Just curious: do you guys still use the term "Leftenant" or is that an obsolete term? I spell it lieutenant but say it "leftenant". Maybe I'm just weird like that.
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| # ? Mar 6, 2012 17:16 |
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ForeverBWFC posted:I spell it lieutenant but say it "leftenant". Maybe I'm just weird like that. Nope, that is the correct way to spell and say it in British English. Any Brit pronouncing it Lootenant has probably been watching too many Yank films/games.
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| # ? Mar 6, 2012 18:21 |
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Lootenant is French and therefore bad.
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| # ? Mar 6, 2012 21:58 |
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So is sergeant and also bad.
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MonkeyLibFront posted:So is sergeant and also bad.
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Red7 posted:Bottles of squash is always a good one, unless he's in Bastion or Kanadahar. This is ridiculous, there's loving shitloads of energy drinks in every rat pack. Unless you mean squash with half the squash removed and replaced with vodka (shhhhhh!). Snacks are the way to go, Haribo (genuine, not Tesco's half-assed approximations), Jerky, nice roasted nuts and things, proper chocolate in winter. Real coffee. If they're in Bastion send empty beer cans and pictures of you having a good time.
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quote:This is ridiculous, there's loving shitloads of energy drinks in every rat pack. Energy drinks are not squash though are they (and taste poo poo)? Ridiculous or not, its the number two thing (after nuts) everyone I've sent stuff to have asked for.
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| # ? Mar 18, 2012 18:42 |
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ForeverBWFC posted:I spell it lieutenant but say it "leftenant". Maybe I'm just weird like that.
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| # ? Mar 21, 2012 20:01 |
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ForeverBWFC posted:I spell it lieutenant but say it "leftenant". Maybe I'm just weird like that. With all my (two) years in the Navy, I'm sure that's the correct way to do/say it
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| # ? Mar 21, 2012 22:17 |
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No that's definitely the way it's done. 
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| # ? Mar 21, 2012 22:46 |
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grover posted:I've long noticed this, and always wondered why. What's the history on this? Is this one of things "King's English" things where a Sea Lord had a speech impediment and it stuck? The word was originally two Latin terms, "locum" meaning in place of, and "teneris" meaning holding, together the phrase applied to anyone "holding in place of" someone else. Over time the word "locum" evolved into the French word "lieu", which is pronounced in French as it is spelled. It's thought that when the English heard the French pronounce the compound word lieutenant, they perceived a slurring which they heard as a "v" or "f" sound between the first and second syllables. There's also the fact that we didn't like the using the same words as the frogs, back in the day. The sergeant comparison isn't quite true, either; We also write "Serjeant" in a bunch of places (old cavalry regiments mostly), and pronounce it as sahr-JUNT rather than sehr-DJAUN, which is the original French pronounciation. It's hard to tell either way, given your average Brit NCO will pronounce "Regimental Sergeant Major" as RrrrrrrrrjmtnlsarntmaJAAAAAAAAAAH anyway
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Going back on what to send someone in a Welfare Package - quite a lot of the blokes in the FOB had squashes and stuff. The energy powder in the ration packs is delicious. Especially the rasperry and fruit punch variations - I don't see how anyone with recent operational experience would say they're not great. I got my parents to send me lime juice cordial from time to time and the change was great. I was in FOBs and PBs my tour last year. Primarily I wanted savory things as little sweets, mints etc were in abundance and no one wanted them. Honey roasted peanuts, salami, biltong (any cured meat at all) and crisps were always in demand. I would also get cheeses from time to time, very tightly bound incase something went wrong. Real coffee was a big one for me. You can get sent those individual bags or grinds and try to borrow a cafetiere from someone, there's always one around. Chocolate-based cereal bars are amazing and if you can send a trade box of Rice Crispy Cakes then that's more of an uplift than you can imagine. I had a couple of sneaky friends who would decant wine into juice containters or buy wine in non-bottled form (e.g. box) and this was brilliant. Being able to have a tinyiest bit of illicit comfort back in the FOB at sundown is great. I don't reccomend sending spirits as this does no one any favours. If your friend is an Officer or SNCO then maybe a bottle of whisky as it can get traded for just about anything with the ANA. However, if your mate is dodgy Gav that you paired up with to steal bicycles in Liverpool then don't. He'll get drunk and having drunken soldiers around weapons, explosives and the ANA (who they probably hate) is a plan for disaster. Generally people will share the contents of their welfare package though. I shared 50% of the contents of any food and gave all the porn that I received to the blokes in my platoon. Partly because it was always something gopping. Some real skip-licking models. Married blokes seem to do well, but the young single men dont. Dont send mints. No one likes them, same goes for any boiled sweet really. Moisturiser was being demolised by the blokes. Nice toothpaste was good, as well as decent shampoo. Nothing really wrong with lynx but some fairly filthy own brands were knocking about that no one really wanted. Decent quality wet-wipes are a godsend, always send a big thing of those. NOT the poo poo quality ones though. and if they're in Bastion then don't send them anything apart from post. They already have access to everything they need. Except maybe fruit teas? Not knocking them, I got sent them and I enjoyed them.
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Clamps McGraw posted:The word was originally two Latin terms, "locum" meaning in place of, and "teneris" meaning holding, together the phrase applied to anyone "holding in place of" someone else. I had heard/read the same, that its the archaic pronunciation of the word which came into use after the Normandy invasion of 1066. If you bear in mind that English was way more Germanic and heavily dialectal back then these odd sounding pronunciations start making more sense. This was also when the "invisible" letters in modern words were pronounced i.e. you would pronounce the 'k' and 'gh' sounds in knight. Old/Middle English is pretty far removed from modern English. It's the language the people of Rohan speak in LOTR if you want to hear it.
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SEE DEEZ NUTZ posted:A fuckton of welfare package tips Cheers! That's plenty to be going on with I think - not entirely sure where he's based but I'll find out and take it from there.
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In other news, Norway is fricking cold. Or it was until someone put a hole in the side of our wee tin boat.
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 Above: AQ's Scandinavian Cell 'More deadly than Exocet'
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Reading this thread with a mental voice of foppish chavs with big bushy sideburns makes it that much more authentic. It's like actually being in the Princess of Wales Royal Regiment!
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Quick question for you Brit Goons, I see the Army recruit up to the age up nearly 33 years old but would they realistically be interested in someone who is about 30. I ask because I'm nearly 28, working hard on my fitness (working my way down from nearly 19 stone  and doing well), I work but have no life experience that stands out nor any qualifications that mean a drat. Desperate to change my life and make something of myself and the Army seems like a really good option. I just can't help think that they would prefer to have someone in their late teens or early twenties to join.
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I'm 25, had a few guys around my age and older at P1 along with another guy who was 30 at P2. You won't think it but you will be a lot more mature than most of the people around you unless of course you've lived like a 16 year old for the last 14 years. In turn this means a lot of the smaller stuff that they beast you with in P1 won't bother you as much as it gets to the younger guys, the maturity will shine through i'm looking at picking up lance jack next year and i've only been at regt 7 months which means i'll be getting it at the 18 month point which is nice. But if it's what you want to do then do it and you can always DAOR in the 1st 14 weeks of basic if you really don't like it.
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Entirely different story with the TA but there was a guy who was 41 in my TSC(Bravo) training, but that is always an option if you don't find it works for you in the regs. I'd say go for it.
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quote:Quick question for you Brit Goons, I see the Army recruit up to the age up nearly 33 years old but would they realistically be interested in someone who is about 30. I ask because I'm nearly 28, working hard on my fitness (working my way down from nearly 19 stone and doing well), I work but have no life experience that stands out nor any qualifications that mean a drat. Desperate to change my life and make something of myself and the Army seems like a really good option. I just can't help think that they would prefer to have someone in their late teens or early twenties to join. Its not really an issue, unless they've tightened it up since I worked in recruiting it won't make a blind bit of difference to your application. There are a fair few people that join at 24-30 range. You might be warned off Infantry given your age, although 28 isn't too bad, which is good advice anyway because you'll go bonkers going through phase 1/2 with a bunch of 17-18 year olds. If you've some qualifications (GCSEs etc) try and look at the more technical jobs, as the promotion is faster in some cases. A lot of the Royal Logistic Corps jobs will also give you some vocational qualifications with no academic joining requirements.
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But when you look in the mirror you'll still be RLC.
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quote:But when you look in the mirror you'll still be RLC. pfft! Mirrors are far too technical for the RLC. Up side though, get your HAZMAT driver qualifications and make "craaazzy money" a year driving tankers for BP.
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Looking at this weekends training programme, it asks for CEMO. We're in camp, surely this can't mean bergen as well? What would be the point?
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Flipswitch posted:Looking at this weekends training programme, it asks for CEMO. When was the last time you did a CFT? We throw surprise Phys into the training program occasionally. Other than that, it could be something like a kit inspection or even something as inane as checking everyone's packing. I wouldnt stress. Skillness622 fucked around with this message at Apr 12, 2012 around 16:01 |
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Fair point, I'm not entirely sure what to expect from this training weekend so it's probably something I haven't heard of/don't know. I went for the option of asking my PSI, he said to bring it anyway, so will do so.
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Thanks for the replies to my post, looks like once my fitness is up to scratch I will get the ball rolling. Red7 posted:If you've some qualifications (GCSEs etc) try and look at the more technical jobs, as the promotion is faster in some cases. A lot of the Royal Logistic Corps jobs will also give you some vocational qualifications with no academic joining requirements. I have something like 2 English grade C's and about 6 D's in other subjects so don't think they are worth a drat. The idea of gaining qualifications is very appealing so I will take a look at the RLC. Thanks.
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Not to pimp my own corp but you can get your licenses albeit not straight away in the RAC plus we do our own signals if that's your thing plus we are still combat. Also get my trade card for Halfords which is nice haha.
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quote:I have something like 2 English grade C's and about 6 D's in other subjects so don't think they are worth a drat. The idea of gaining qualifications is very appealing so I will take a look at the RLC. Thanks. If one of those D's is a Maths/physics qualification (which opens up most of the Communications jobs) you're qualified for most things, with the exception of Intelligence, upper-tier Medical and some niche jobs. Futures Bright! MonkeyLibFront, do you know if 1 RTR are still trying to do the Exploitation job? That looked really interesting from what I saw of it last year.
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No idea as i'm the other RTR (better looking some say), all we got briefed about 1RTR was that they were coming back to actually being deployable as a regiment and that they binned off the JCBRN as they were the only ones who actually turned up.
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Skillness622 posted:Other than that, it could be something like a kit inspection or even something as inane as checking everyone's packing. I wouldnt stress.
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is there any set date for when everyone will have their new buckshee medal by? it's going to be an excellent identifier for long-toothed tour dodgers!
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Stoat, you'll be fine just dont go infantry. You'll be doing all your training with young lads, and you'll be treated like a fool which you won't like. But mainly, you'll be doing all your promotion courses when your even older and you'll struggle badly. Juniors (Section Commanders) would be done at around 32-35 and you would be looking at seniors (Platoon Sergeants) 39-42 and they're loving arduous. You need to be doing them when you're young. Be a fat loggie in the Recruits Last Chance. Source: I'm infantry and was an instructor at the Infantry Training Center Catterick. Tulips posted:is there any set date for when everyone will have their new buckshee medal by? it's going to be an excellent identifier for long-toothed tour dodgers! Ive got mine already. Buckshee! It'll be the last one I get.
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quote:Ive got mine already. Buckshee! It'll be the last one I get. I'm tempted just to go out and buy one, but I know the second I do we'll get issued it. Otherwise I think its going to be ages before the TA see it. When's the actual jubilee anyway? July or something?
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SEE DEEZ NUTZ posted:. . . That medal won't even be the first I get; I've not been in long enough. Friends of mine who came through Dartmouth with me will get it due to prior service in the RE, TA or even as a Cadet Forces Adult Volunteer
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I don't really understand why they did that to be honest. Theres a lot of guys with 2x tours who won't get it, while someone that does the bare minimum for 5 years does. Apparently for the Silver Jubilee only the CO, RSM and youngest soldier got one, so at least its getting better.
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I'm unemployed and I was wondering about joining the army/raf, I'm 28. I did IT helpdesk work and I got OK GCSEs and crap A-levels. I figured the military would basically always be hiring? Are there any cool jobs that I could go into like blowing things up with C4 or flying robots? Would those sort of roles put me at more risk of ending up dead? What percentage of our military is in Afghanistan or Iraq?
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Crankit posted:Are there any cool jobs that I could go into like blowing things up with C4 or flying robots?
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Crankit posted:I'm unemployed and I was wondering about joining the army/raf, I'm 28. I did IT helpdesk work and I got OK GCSEs and crap A-levels. I figured the military would basically always be hiring? Royal Artillery fly UAV's and Royal Engineers blow poo poo up, some jobs are cool looking but turn out dog crap when at regt, do your research and know what you really want and not just ooohhh tanks they look cool.
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Well no ones posted for a while so: Fiji Second Team VS Royal Marines GO ARMY!
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