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Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010


Am i over reacting here? My brother and his girlfriend are visiting for a few days during thier winter break. Ive been full time and have had my mother using my new name for a few months now. The thing is, she doesnt want to use it in the company of my brothers girlfriend, so all i hear is 'old name' and he/him/his all the time from her and my brothers (who both know). I am also just being a giant pussy and only correcting them in a soft voice, if at all. This really hurts, and ive been crying myself to sleep for the first time in months because of it, as it seems to me that my mother is only accepting of me when it is convienent for her. Am i being selfish and overreacting here?

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Lyesh
Apr 9, 2003



Pi Soup posted:

How do other transwomen deal with getting electrolysis after changing presentation? I'm tentatively planning on changing my presentation at work in March and still have a chunk of facial hair left. Growing it out for the couple days beforehand isn't a problem now since I can just present male everywhere, but if I'm presenting female at work that won't be viable. Do I just have to deal with being a bearded lady a couple days a week?

You can cover pretty significant facial hair with makeup if you use concealer and full foundation. That's probably your best bet.

It's also not unheard of for women to have problems with facial hair, especially if they have hormonal imbalances or whatever.

Sir Quetzal
Jul 13, 2010


Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

Am i over reacting here? My brother and his girlfriend are visiting for a few days during thier winter break. Ive been full time and have had my mother using my new name for a few months now. The thing is, she doesnt want to use it in the company of my brothers girlfriend, so all i hear is 'old name' and he/him/his all the time from her and my brothers (who both know). I am also just being a giant pussy and only correcting them in a soft voice, if at all. This really hurts, and ive been crying myself to sleep for the first time in months because of it, as it seems to me that my mother is only accepting of me when it is convienent for her. Am i being selfish and overreacting here?

Nope. Correct them louder. This is bullshit.

onecooldana
Jan 29, 2006

I'll wait for you forever,
Merkel my love!

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

Am i over reacting here? My brother and his girlfriend are visiting for a few days during thier winter break. Ive been full time and have had my mother using my new name for a few months now. The thing is, she doesnt want to use it in the company of my brothers girlfriend, so all i hear is 'old name' and he/him/his all the time from her and my brothers (who both know). I am also just being a giant pussy and only correcting them in a soft voice, if at all. This really hurts, and ive been crying myself to sleep for the first time in months because of it, as it seems to me that my mother is only accepting of me when it is convienent for her. Am i being selfish and overreacting here?

This makes me angry. I have gone through a couple drafts of this but I decided against posting in a rage.
If someone's actions are making you so upset that you cry yourself to sleep then you need to discuss it with them. You're not a freak, you're her daughter, and she owes you at least an explanation.

onecooldana
Jan 29, 2006

I'll wait for you forever,
Merkel my love!

Lyesh posted:

You can cover pretty significant facial hair with makeup if you use concealer and full foundation. That's probably your best bet.

It's also not unheard of for women to have problems with facial hair, especially if they have hormonal imbalances or whatever.

Zooey Deschanel

WrathofKhan
Jun 4, 2011


That is what my upper lip looks like, except that I have darker hair (I don't bleach the hair because I have olive skin), and I've also got a pretty significant amount of hair under my chin. And it grows fast enough that I need to shave daily and/or pluck a couple of times a week if I want to be baby smooth. Seriously, testosterone is the devil.

So yeah, no one is going to be staring at your face looking for the tiniest trace of facial hair, and if you've been getting electro and/or laser, its entirely possible you aren't the hairiest chick at your workplace anyway. Not that facial hair doesn't suck, because it does. Hardcore. But you aren't alone.

Latin Pheonix
Sep 6, 2011



Speaking of facial hair removal, I just got back from an IPL session and loving HELL, IT HURTS! Any advice on how to stop the burning? I'm dabbing it with a wet rag that has ice inside, but it's a very temporary relief before the heat rushes back in.

Ireland Sucks
May 16, 2004



Latin Pheonix posted:

Speaking of facial hair removal, I just got back from an IPL session and loving HELL, IT HURTS! Any advice on how to stop the burning? I'm dabbing it with a wet rag that has ice inside, but it's a very temporary relief before the heat rushes back in.

My technician applies aloe vera gel straight after the session and recommends I do it at home. It is nice and cool but I can't say it has ever been that unbearable anyway

TheRubberDucky
Feb 17, 2004



Seconding that. I just had my fourth laser session yesterday, aloe is absolutely wonderful. I keep it in the fridge a day before, and it makes me forget the pain within a few hours.


Also, hi, this is my first post I think in these threads. Even just as a lurker, it has been a great reminder that not everyone in the world will be terrible to me. I'm two months into HRT and getting more and more adventurous with my presentation in general, though I wish I had the guts to get a more feminine haircut.

Latin Pheonix
Sep 6, 2011



Yeah, mine did too, I don't know if I'm being a drama queen, whether my black hair/palest white skin combination means I get more heat in my skin or if I just have a lower pain threshold, but it hurt like hell, mostly a burning pain from being indoors. It's just my second session though, so I think I still have a lot of hair to remove and this session's pain went away much quicker than the previous one's (the last one took well over 6 hours to finally subside)

Collaterly Sisters
May 20, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Latin Pheonix posted:

Speaking of facial hair removal, I just got back from an IPL session and loving HELL, IT HURTS! Any advice on how to stop the burning? I'm dabbing it with a wet rag that has ice inside, but it's a very temporary relief before the heat rushes back in.

General consensus is that IPL is a scam, too - if it works for you, that's awesome, but otherwise you might want to save your money for laser.

teh winnar!
Apr 16, 2003
tHE OFFICEAL WILNNER OF TH E INTRENET!@!!!!~

I did several rounds of laser, because my combination of dark hair and light skin made it very effective. I could probably stand to get the stragglers with electro sometime, but I haven't put it on any priority.

To me, aloe helped a lot, as did regular painkillers before and afterward. Just keep in mind that the pain you're going through is going towards something. It'll be worth it in the end.

Ireland Sucks
May 16, 2004



Collaterly Sisters posted:

General consensus is that IPL is a scam, too - if it works for you, that's awesome, but otherwise you might want to save your money for laser.

Uh what? The general consensus I am aware of is that they are roughly equivalent. Home IPL units are lightbulb-in-a-box scams, but the proper machines that salons use have plenty of solid science behind them.

SuddenConsequences
Nov 17, 2010



IPL works but it's generally considered to be not that permanent and also of questionable effectiveness on facial hair. I'd really go for laser.

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

A Chick Bustin' Out

* formerly Caseus Maximus

Latin Pheonix posted:

Speaking of facial hair removal, I just got back from an IPL session and loving HELL, IT HURTS! Any advice on how to stop the burning? I'm dabbing it with a wet rag that has ice inside, but it's a very temporary relief before the heat rushes back in.

What is IPL vs just Laser Hair Removal?

I have checked out a couple of places around here and they just offer Laser Hair Removal.

Julie And Candy
Jan 17, 2010

When life gives you lemons, drink more sugar!

One uses a xenon flash lamp, the other uses a sweet pew-pew laser. I've tried both and so far laser has done a much better job, but is more expensive.

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010


IPL is pulsed [incoherent] light, whereas laser is laser (of a single wavelength). The theory is, as laser is light of single wavelength, they can specifically 'target' hair, and reduce the trauma to the skin and other areas versus IPL. I don't know if it varies by state, but there doesn't seem to be any regulation on what can be called "Laser Hair Removal." You pretty much just have to check web sites or call them and ask the brand of laser they use.

Oh, and if anyone doesn't really have that much facial hair, it might be more cost effective to just do electrolysis.

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

A Chick Bustin' Out

* formerly Caseus Maximus

Julie And Candy posted:

One uses a xenon flash lamp, the other uses a sweet pew-pew laser. I've tried both and so far laser has done a much better job, but is more expensive.
I have been for consultations at two different laser places.

One charged around $3,000US for as many sessions as you can fit into 12 months with free lifetime touchups. They also offered 12 month no interest financing. Unfortunately, they are about 25 miles away.

The othe place sold a package of 5 sessions for around $900US with extra sessions coming at $75US a pop. This place is around 5 miles from my house.

How often are you supposed to have treatments? I have heard 4 to 6 weeks from the two clinics, but read something online stating every 10 weeks.

The second place seems like the better deal even if I will have to pay up front.

Cityinthesea
Aug 7, 2009


I'm getting them every 10 weeks myself...

Collaterly Sisters
May 20, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I had my first six monthly, and the last two (oh my god I've had eight oh goodness) at six weeks. I'm not sure what guided my laser guy's choices in either case, probably trying to catch different "waves" of hair growth as things thin out up there. It may also depend on the laser being used.

Collaterly Sisters
May 20, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post


a 12-month all-you-can-take deal is, um. drat. kind of tempting but also ouch ouch ouch

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

A Chick Bustin' Out

* formerly Caseus Maximus

Collaterly Sisters posted:

a 12-month all-you-can-take deal is, um. drat. kind of tempting but also ouch ouch ouch

Yeah, they were telling me that I could come once a month if I wanted to and it hurt just thinking about it.

How much does it hurt anyway?

The second place has equipment that shoots out some cold stuff before each laser pulse to ease burning.

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010


I don't know if its usable for laser, but there is an anesthetic called EMLA that you can put on before hand that numbs the area. Again, it might be viable for laser, but electrolysis uses it.

EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005

0x7FFFFFFF


The issue with numbing the skin (and I've heard this from multiple sources) is that you can't calibrate the settings as well since you won't feel pain and they may overdo the POWER LEVELS. Then you wake up next morning and your face is a well-done steak?

Black Lighter
Sep 6, 2010

The sight of it all makes me sad and ill.

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

Am i over reacting here? My brother and his girlfriend are visiting for a few days during thier winter break. Ive been full time and have had my mother using my new name for a few months now. The thing is, she doesnt want to use it in the company of my brothers girlfriend, so all i hear is 'old name' and he/him/his all the time from her and my brothers (who both know). I am also just being a giant pussy and only correcting them in a soft voice, if at all. This really hurts, and ive been crying myself to sleep for the first time in months because of it, as it seems to me that my mother is only accepting of me when it is convienent for her. Am i being selfish and overreacting here?

Seconding what onecooldan said. It's your name and who you are. If they can't pay you the simple courtesy of addressing you in the correct way, call them on it.

Marshmallow Mayhem
Oct 9, 2009

Fun for everyone!


Caseus Maximus posted:

I have been for consultations at two different laser places.

One charged around $3,000US for as many sessions as you can fit into 12 months with free lifetime touchups. They also offered 12 month no interest financing. Unfortunately, they are about 25 miles away.

The othe place sold a package of 5 sessions for around $900US with extra sessions coming at $75US a pop. This place is around 5 miles from my house.

How often are you supposed to have treatments? I have heard 4 to 6 weeks from the two clinics, but read something online stating every 10 weeks.

The second place seems like the better deal even if I will have to pay up front.

I've always only heard 4 weeks between.
What does the first place mean by touchups? What means you have to stop going every month after 12 months if its free? $3000 for laser FOREVER sounds like a sweet deal. However a year of the second place would also only cost like $1500, so half? You'll probably need more than 5-12 sessions, from what i have seen and heard, if you have a a lot of dark hair.

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010


Thanks for the responses, everyone. While it was a bit late as my brother and his girlfriend are heading back early tomorrow, I explicitly told the girlfriend earlier tonight, so that removed all reasons not to use my name and P.G.P.s. Now its all up to whether they want to (in front of her, at least for my mom).

Also, name changes are seriously expensive...

Boten Anna
Feb 22, 2010



Caseus Maximus posted:

How often are you supposed to have treatments? I have heard 4 to 6 weeks from the two clinics, but read something online stating every 10 weeks.

I went every 4 weeks, 10 weeks sounds like asking for trouble (and a waste of the money you'd spend on the year of laser).

I did a similar deal (HAGGLE with them, I got them down to $2200, and all I said is "my friend that referred me got this for $2200", but had to pay most of it within a very short timespan without financing) and it worked pretty well, though now I'm looking at getting some electrolysis touch up.

timebandit
Mar 22, 2004


Hi trannies, I'm a futre transboy out of Philadelphia. I'm also about to make my first appointment at Mazzoni to start testosterone therapy. Yes, I've been going to therapy for a number of months now.

The most earth shattering thing about the whole situation was when I realized that I'm not exactly a lesbian, but a straight man. I've started to come out to close friends, family, etc. My family was totally weirded out at first, but I know that they love me unconditionally, and are finally starting to come around. Really, they should have known when I proclaimed that I was a boy at the age of five.

My long term girlfriend is having mixed feelings about the whole thing. It's not that she's transphobic or anything, she just very strongly identifies as a lesbian and is having issues with the whole labeling thing. Not to mention that her parents will never, ever understand it as conservative Jews.

I'm so ready for this though. Time to get on with my life.

Redwolf
Aug 9, 2011

Cut me, cut me
serve me round the table.

timebandit posted:

Hi trannies,

Don't do that. Won't claim to speak for everyone and opinion certainly varies, but not all of us are cool with with that word.

That aside, congratulations. Sounds like you're in a decent place with things; getting therapy, family not abandoning you, partner by your side. Hope it all goes really well for you.

Collaterly Sisters
May 20, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Caseus Maximus posted:

Yeah, they were telling me that I could come once a month if I wanted to and it hurt just thinking about it.

How much does it hurt anyway?

The second place has equipment that shoots out some cold stuff before each laser pulse to ease burning.

I posted some before/after stuff in one of these threads, basically it varies a lot. I have a lot of pain and a looooot of redness/irritation that lasts about 5 days, some people have none. I'd say it's worth it!

The cold stuff is great, I find that getting kind of stoned before helps a little bit, topical anaesthetic cremes are helpful but not perfect because to actually work you need to be reaching the follicle which is, well, under the skin

Collaterly Sisters
May 20, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

I don't know if its usable for laser, but there is an anesthetic called EMLA that you can put on before hand that numbs the area. Again, it might be viable for laser, but electrolysis uses it.

Yeah, this is what I've used.

Black Lighter
Sep 6, 2010

The sight of it all makes me sad and ill.

timebandit posted:

Hi trannies, I'm a futre transboy out of Philadelphia. I'm also about to make my first appointment at Mazzoni to start testosterone therapy. Yes, I've been going to therapy for a number of months now.

The most earth shattering thing about the whole situation was when I realized that I'm not exactly a lesbian, but a straight man. I've started to come out to close friends, family, etc. My family was totally weirded out at first, but I know that they love me unconditionally, and are finally starting to come around. Really, they should have known when I proclaimed that I was a boy at the age of five.

My long term girlfriend is having mixed feelings about the whole thing. It's not that she's transphobic or anything, she just very strongly identifies as a lesbian and is having issues with the whole labeling thing. Not to mention that her parents will never, ever understand it as conservative Jews.

I'm so ready for this though. Time to get on with my life.

Congrats!

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

Eh.

Well, less than 48 hours until I become My Family's Biggest Disgrace by coming out to them as trans! And given that members of my family have been offered hundreds of thousands of dollars to share their 100% true stories with trashy daytime talk shows a la Jerry Springer, that's no small feat!

Okay, it's possible I'm being a tad histrionic, but I'm nervous as poo poo. The game plan is as follows: we're having a much-belated Christmas dinner tomorrow evening, and during its wind-down, after everyone's drowsy from the tryptophan, lay it on 'em. Then hop on a bus early Saturday morning and get back home as quickly as possible while it's all sinking in. Post the announcement on my old Facebook, along with a big ol' FAQ I've written for the occasion, and then not answer the phone for about a week as the news reaches my extended family.

I'm scared.

Black Lighter
Sep 6, 2010

The sight of it all makes me sad and ill.

Plom Bar posted:

Well, less than 48 hours until I become My Family's Biggest Disgrace by coming out to them as trans! And given that members of my family have been offered hundreds of thousands of dollars to share their 100% true stories with trashy daytime talk shows a la Jerry Springer, that's no small feat!

Okay, it's possible I'm being a tad histrionic, but I'm nervous as poo poo. The game plan is as follows: we're having a much-belated Christmas dinner tomorrow evening, and during its wind-down, after everyone's drowsy from the tryptophan, lay it on 'em. Then hop on a bus early Saturday morning and get back home as quickly as possible while it's all sinking in. Post the announcement on my old Facebook, along with a big ol' FAQ I've written for the occasion, and then not answer the phone for about a week as the news reaches my extended family.

I'm scared.

Don't be. You're a lot braver than me; I could never tell all my family at once like thar. Your plan sounds really well-thought out, too. Just stick to it and you'll be fine.

ChikenOfALesserGod
Jun 30, 2006

CANCER FROG COSMOLOGY


Plom bar we (at least I am, can't talk for all this other riffraff) are here rooting for ya. It sucks, but for better or worse it feels so much better to be open and honest about yourself to everyone.

Sir Quetzal
Jul 13, 2010


Plom Bar posted:

I'm scared.

Good luck Plom Bar! This is very similar to my initial plan (I instead was outed by my sister telling my cousin) and people haven't had the balls to contact me directly about it. Hopefully yours don't react badly!

Lexical Unit
Sep 16, 2003

Seriously?


Plom Bar posted:

Well, less than 48 hours until I become My Family's Biggest Disgrace by coming out to them as trans!
In less than 48 hours you're probably going to feel much better than you do now, regardless of how it goes. Hopefully though your family takes it well.

Dessert Rose
May 17, 2004

so delicious...



This is the most beautiful letter F I've ever seen in my life.

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Lady Dank
Apr 30, 2009

But what are feelings, without emotions?"


Plom Bar posted:


I'm scared.

If they love you, they won't stop loving you. Best of luck . Nervousness is like, really to be expected. You'll be fine. That's a solid plan.

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