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aBagorn posted:How is it that I've been on this forum for 8 years and never once saw any of these megathreads? Silly me. It took me 14 years to bring it up with my wife. It's been about 6 months and things are pretty good. I am moving much slower than I might have otherwise, but it is working for us. She doesn't get it and is pretty sure she couldn't take seeing me en femme but she does love me and wants me to be happy, so baby steps and lots of patience. Also, I have heard people with your mindset call themselves 'genderqueer.' Do you have a therapist? I have a therapist who has many trans* patients and seeing her helped me figure out who I really am.
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WINNERSH TRIANGLE posted:Another, related question would be when I should tell family, more specifically, parents about this. I'm fairly sure that they'll be supportive, but did other people in a similar situation go to talk this through with a confidential professional first, to get things worked out a bit more, or did they talk things through with their parent[s] first? I suppose that in a lot of cases, it would be obvious, but, well-meaning as they are, I worry that my parents are just going to dismiss any confessions as due to finals-related stress, and try to deal with that, not what I feel are more deep-rooted concerns. This is one of the biggest reasons I'm in therapy. I'm very secure in my identity as a trans person, but telling my parents will be the biggest challenge I'll face in my transition (and possibly my life). Therapy is helping me get better about talking about myself and articulating the way I experience my identity, and it will help immensely if I can tell my parents that I've been cleared by a medical professional. If my pre-transition groundwork isn't air tight, I have no doubt they'll seize any tiny opening as a chance to talk me out of it.
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Cherrywood posted:That statistic does not represent your own individual risk of attempting suicide, as you seem to have indicated. Fine, I might have worded it badly, but that part of the sentence wasn't meant to be an indication of my own suicide risk, I was using it as an example to illustrate the pressures that many trans people are under because of their identity.
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WINNERSH TRIANGLE posted:Hello thread; I really can't help you on the rest of your post but http://www.pinktherapy.com/ might help in your search for a therapist! I think it's actually linked in the OP of this thread but it did wonders for me when I was helping my girlfriend look for a trans-friendly therapist where she is so it might be useful for you too!
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Lexical Unit posted:Please don't go there, step aside is not an ambassador for cis women just because she's a cis woman. Her actions and words do not in any way reflect on cis women as a whole. Yes, I'm aware of that, since I am a cis woman. And as a cis woman, it really bugs me when other cis women show up in trans* space and start throwing around cis privileged statements in a way that could hurt future dialogue.
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RumbleFish posted:If my pre-transition groundwork isn't air tight, I have no doubt they'll seize any tiny opening as a chance to talk me out of it. That's why one of the first sentences of the letter I wrote telling my mom said that I was diagnosed with Gender Identity Disorder. I wanted to make sure that she knew it was something that had been externally validated by a professional. And why I phrased all my actions as part of the recommended treatment, not just what I felt like doing.
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Teabiscuit posted:Do you live in reading? I live next to the winnersh triangle. I have lived most of my life in Woodley. I now live in Sheffield. WINNERSH TRIANGLE posted:SW London, but I spend roughly half of my life on the Reading-London Waterloo line, and the 'calling at Earley; Winnersh Triangle; Winnersh' announcer is always a wonderful homecoming thing to me. Pathetic, true, but it's such an excellently-named station. She Zoomer fucked around with this message at Mar 29, 2012 around 18:18 |
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Oh hey, everyone is still yelling up in here. Anyway, I got my HRT prescription today so I am happy, poo poo was free yo! Love this states insurance policies. Have a nice night guys.
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Behold! A Elk! posted:Oh hey, everyone is still yelling up in here. Anyway, I got my HRT prescription today so I am happy, poo poo was free yo! Love this states insurance policies. Told ya!
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So can we talk about sublingual absorption? I know that estradiol-17 beta is absorbed faster and more efficiently sublingually, but that it has a steeper drop off of estrogen levels with time. So in the long run, is oral or sublingual more efficient overall?
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gobbledygoat posted:So can we talk about sublingual absorption? I know that estradiol-17 beta is absorbed faster and more efficiently sublingually, but that it has a steeper drop off of estrogen levels with time. So in the long run, is oral or sublingual more efficient overall? And to add to this question, how do these compare to dermal applications?
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The benefit of sub-dermal/lingual application comes from lower clotting risk and less stress on the liver and losing less E to first pass liver metabolism. Yes the oral route has a slower dropoff but that's because it takes a lot longer to go from the gut to the bloodstream than it does to go over your skin and you get less of it. Just split your dose over 12 hours (13 hour half life) and stop thinking so hard about it: any difference is going to be pointlessly minimal compared to the things mentioned above.
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gobbledygoat posted:So can we talk about sublingual absorption? I know that estradiol-17 beta is absorbed faster and more efficiently sublingually, but that it has a steeper drop off of estrogen levels with time. So in the long run, is oral or sublingual more efficient overall? From this study, comparing absorption of sublingual estradiol to oral estradiol, and a quote I originally posted when I summarized that study: "Within the first hour of [sublingual] administration there is a rapid peak of E2 concentration, and then E2 levels decrease because of the metabolism to El, with E2 levels returning to less than 60 pg/mL by 6 hours. With comparable dosing, sublingual administration yields higher E2 levels than does oral administration." So sublingual administration of estradiol seems to yield higher estradiol blood-serum concentrations overall. You can see that in this graph from that paper, at most points in time and for most dosages, sublingual concentrations are higher than comparable oral doses:  onecooldan posted:And to add to this question, how do these compare to dermal applications? I'm sure someone has checked this out (in post-menopausal cis women), but I'm literally moving tomorrow (and preparing to be a bridesmaid for my sister's wedding this weekend and traveling to see ~my girlfriend~ next week, busy busy) so no time to go digging about in the literature for the info right now. If no one else has looked into it, maybe I'll find time to check it out over the next few days. Recommendations for trans female HRT though usually simply suggest dermal patches for their relatively lower clotting risk. Slave posted:The benefit of sub-dermal/lingual application comes from lower clotting risk and less stress on the liver and losing less E to first pass liver metabolism. Yes the oral route has a slower dropoff but that's because it takes a lot longer to go from the gut to the bloodstream than it does to go over your skin and you get less of it. This totally is A benefit, but increased efficacy seems to be a benefit as well! As to the splitting dose thing, I split my doses because of the drop-off but that is just me. Helena P Blavatsky fucked around with this message at Mar 29, 2012 around 22:51 |
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Helena P Blavatsky posted:Edit: the Groupon for San Jose today is cheap Laser. onecooldana fucked around with this message at Mar 29, 2012 around 23:10 |
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Latin Pheonix posted:or that my dysphoria means that statistically I have a 34% chance of committing suicide. Latin Pheonix posted:As I said, the suicide chance was statistical Latin Pheonix posted:Fine, I might have worded it badly, but that part of the sentence wasn't meant to be an indication of my own suicide risk, I think it was how you choose to use the word "chance" that triggered people. Like it's just a roll of the die for them, but for yourself it's a risk. You imply very different things by using chance or risk.
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Helena P Blavatsky posted:This totally is A benefit, but increased efficacy seems to be a benefit as well! As to the splitting dose thing, I split my doses because of the drop-off but that is just me. What do you use to split E pills?
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:What do you use to split E pills? I take 2 pills a day, actually, since the pills I get are half of my daily dose. One in the morning, one in the evening usually.
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Hi. I just read page 1, and I'm going to go back and read the rest (whoo, that will take some time), but I just wanted to say that I'd love being added to the superfriends list... it didn't look like there are any requirements, from what I read, so, here's my info. Username: KittenmittenKameha Cis woman, pansexual AIM: hatethemoment I'm on AIM far more often than I probably should be, and you really can't fail at contacting me that way. Through AIM, I can give you my cell phone, Twitter, etc. I'm totally open to discussing sexuality, and I am a firm believer that human sexuality is far more complex than the neat little gay-straight-bi boxes allow for. I grew up thinking of myself as a boy, and really hating that other people viewed me as a girl. Puberty was terrible; I utterly loathed my body, wore big shapeless clothes to hide my figure, shaved my hair off, etc. It's only in recent years that I've really embraced "being a woman", but truth be told, that's really only because of the fashion options. I discovered a passion for that a few years ago... I also love discussing fashion and make-up; I've accumulated a lot of different sources for clothes and tips, and I have very highly eclectic tastes, so I'd love to share that with anyone who's interested... I'm just really open to talking about anything, at pretty much anytime. Literally, any time. (I keep *very* bizarre- and constantly changing- hours.) I am a very good listener.  Going to read the rest of the thread now!
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Ummm do we know you?
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KittenmittenKameha posted:Hi. I just read page 1, and I'm going to go back and read the rest (whoo, that will take some time), but I just wanted to say that I'd love being added to the superfriends list... it didn't look like there are any requirements, from what I read, so, here's my info. As for the superfriends, they're usually posters with a solid track record of providing support, advice, etc. in the thread. It doesn't take much, but at least let us get to know you a little better first :p Clairetic fucked around with this message at Mar 30, 2012 around 01:14 |
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KittenmittenKameha posted:I'm totally open to discussing sexuality, and I am a firm believer that human sexuality is far more complex than the neat little gay-straight-bi boxes allow for. Welcome to the thread! I totally relate to you saying being a girl was nice for the fashion... I ended up transitioning though (to male, I mean), so YMMV.  Edit: Friend reading over my shoulder read my post and said "Yeah, transitioning to a big drag queen!"
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Goatface Killa posted:Welcome to the thread! I totally relate to you saying being a girl was nice for the fashion... I ended up transitioning though (to male, I mean), so YMMV.
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Korak posted:Who better to win a lot of money on the drag king circuit than a trans man. I'd be a terrible drag king! I'm... not butch. At all. But I look drat good in heels.
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Menadena posted:I would tell them after you get confirmation from a therapist. Not only will you be clearer about it in your own mind but you will have a professional who independently concurred and will be able to be part of a support system if parent's reaction is not good. Yeah, this is good advice, thanks. As I said, I'm still questioning, so it'll be really good to have it much clearer in my mind, as well as whether this even is an issue. I think I can count on a good (or at least not violent/angry) parental reaction, but it's always good to be safe. RumbleFish posted:This is one of the biggest reasons I'm in therapy. I'm very secure in my identity as a trans person, but telling my parents will be the biggest challenge I'll face in my transition (and possibly my life). Therapy is helping me get better about talking about myself and articulating the way I experience my identity, and it will help immensely if I can tell my parents that I've been cleared by a medical professional. If my pre-transition groundwork isn't air tight, I have no doubt they'll seize any tiny opening as a chance to talk me out of it. Yeah, this is helpful too. I don't know if I'm secure in whatever identity at all, but as you say, being better at talking about oneself and articulating it if I do become more secure about this will be helpful, as well as establishing some sort of groundwork. Faerie Fortune posted:I really can't help you on the rest of your post but http://www.pinktherapy.com/ might help in your search for a therapist! I think it's actually linked in the OP of this thread but it did wonders for me when I was helping my girlfriend look for a trans-friendly therapist where she is so it might be useful for you too! Thanks! It's a great big long list of people to look through, but they all look a bit more helpful than the equivalent on the NHS site. I'll have a root around here. How much does the 'Advanced Accredited Sexual Diversity Therapist (AASDT)' qualification make a difference - it seems like it might be quite a significant thing ... Thanks everybody!
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Has anyone else tried Climara (Transdermal Estrogen)? I work out everyday, and Im worried about the adhesive being effective when I get work up a sweat. Also, for the Transdermals patches, which is best: Butt cheek or abs?
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Hello, I am now on Page 3 of reading through the thread, but I stumbled across something that has me a bit confused, and wanted to ask about it before I forgot.GrimSqueaker posted:Trans = your subconcious sex and/or gender identity doesn't match your physical sex The reason why I'm unsure as to whether I should refer to myself as cis or trans is because I am now happy with my female body. I kind of love it, actually. I still don't think of myself as 'a woman', but I love fashion, make-up, etc, and I just love making myself up to look very artistic and attractive. I think I would do the same with a male body, in an Eddie Izzard kind of way, and in fact, I do think of myself as a rather flamboyant male. I have no real desire or inclination to physically become male (although I did once). I'm fascinated with femininity as it applies to me, as I've always felt more androgynous/male. It's a bit bizarre- when I'm having a good day, and have made myself up to look nice, I like that people refer to me as female- I feel like I am incognito, and it's thrilling. On bad days, however, I hate that people see me as female. It really bothers me, but it's just a quirk of mine I've always had, and, for me personally, it's not too bad, it's just a further irritant on already-bad days. So... does this make me genderqueer? Am I cis, or trans? I honestly don't know what the accurate way to describe myself would be, in communities and forums such as this one.
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KittenmittenKameha posted:So... does this make me genderqueer? Am I cis, or trans? I honestly don't know what the accurate way to describe myself would be, in communities and forums such as this one. Labels are guidelines at best. In the better-case scenarios, you call yourself what you want. If you prefer to consider yourself genderqueer, awesome. If you believe you are cis but boyish, or trans but fashionable, then go hog wild over it. Or maybe you're a drag king without a stage show. If you want to overthink it, there can be a lot more checkboxes to select, as well as more questions to answer: Identity (what you see yourself as), Presentation (how you make the world see you), Expression (somewhere between ID and presentation, this is how people perceive your presentation), etc. Despite what some people would have you believe, there is no right or wrong answer. Besides, there's nothing wrong with being a guy-identified, metro-presenting, fashionable-expressing genderqueer person if that's what you are.
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KittenmittenKameha posted:a bit confused You may be, but I'm afraid I don't think anyone can really tell you one way or the other. It's complicated; there's all sorts of facets to what you're saying. For example, loving fashion, make up etc. is making you into something that society thinks, and therefore you think, looks good*, and it's certainly possible I guess that maybe your motivation is to 'look good', not, 'look female', and it's the best thing to do with what you've got. I suppose you have to ask yourself, if you looked, or could look, good as a man, would that feel better for you. Or, as a counterpoint, is it the implied social or internalised pressure of being expected to look good on your bad days that makes you dislike being regarded as a woman? I'm afraid the only person with any real answers is yourself - what you really need are questions. You may like to consider reviewing some books from genderqueer authors, or try and find some stuff online, regarding their process of realisation. Though, if I recall correctly, we do have a few GQ posters, I have the impression most people who're (still) here are transsexual, so honestly you may not find too much useful information crowd sourcing from here, so try not to feel bad if you can't glean much. Right now, I'd stick with 'questioning'. Obviously, you may also like to try talking to a competent therapist. * (I'm just saying fashion and what's considered attractive changes over time/by region, not that 'gender is a social construct' etc)
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psyopmonkey posted:Has anyone else tried Climara (Transdermal Estrogen)? I work out everyday, and Im worried about the adhesive being effective when I get work up a sweat. That's what I'm on. I've had little problem with the patches staying in place. Just don't put them on really stretchy areas of skin and they stay no problem. I put the patch by my hip bone or on my lower back. I think the lower back is the best spot, but it always makes me paranoid that it has fallen off because I can't see it.
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So, I just came from moving some stuff in to my new place (which is awesome). On the way back, I caught one of the trolleys that run through my new neighborhood; I got on, swiped my (gender-marked) transit pass, and the driver reached out and smacked me across the arm. He told me I was using the wrong pass; I told him that I wasn't. He asked why I was obscuring the marker with my thumb, and I leaned in and shoved it right in his face and told him that was the one they gave me. Then he mumbled something about not obscuring it, and I told him to mind his own business and took my seat. I'm going to be filing a complaint against him; regardless of gender issues, he smacked me and my arm hurt for about an hour afterward, so I'm pretty pissed. Any advice from people who have had to file a complaint like this before would be appreciated.
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Black Lighter posted:I'm going to be filing a complaint against him; regardless of gender issues, he smacked me and my arm hurt for about an hour afterward, so I'm pretty pissed. Any advice from people who have had to file a complaint like this before would be appreciated. If there's any sort of mark on your arm, get a picture.
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DeadlyMuffin posted:If there's any sort of mark on your arm, get a picture. There's not, or I would have. I sent them a long complaint via their website where I emphasized the fact that the driver straight smacked me. I told them that I expect swift action, and that if I don't get it, I'll pursue legal action. Hopefully, that will be enough to motivate them. Black Lighter fucked around with this message at Mar 31, 2012 around 03:03 |
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Black Lighter posted:There's not, or I would have. I sent them a long complaint via their website where I emphasized the fact that the driver straight smacked me. I told them that I expect swift action, and that if I don't get it, I'll pursue legal action. Hopefully, that will be enough to motivate them.
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Korak posted:They should have camera on him, wouldn't they? I'm not sure; I think all of the buses and whatnot are supposed to, but that would be a relatively new measure and the trolleys date back to the 80's, so they might not be built in. I'll have to keep an eye out for it tomorrow. Ugh. Now that I've come down from my righteous fury high, I'm just feeling shaken about this. I've never been in a situation where somebody like a bus driver felt a right to put their hands on me before, and it sucks. gently caress SEPTA. Luckily, City Council just introduced a resolution to get rid of the gender markers completely, but still...
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Black Lighter posted:There's not, or I would have. I sent them a long complaint via their website where I emphasized the fact that the driver straight smacked me. I told them that I expect swift action, and that if I don't get it, I'll pursue legal action. Hopefully, that will be enough to motivate them. Hopefully your system is better than ours on that front, I have only ridden SEPTA on one weekend so did not get a good feel for that. The WMATA on the other hand (DC) does criminal stuff all the time (fatal accidents, striking police officers off duty, flagrantly breaking traffic laws, treating customers like annoyances) and when sued just shriek sovereign immunity to get off scott free. Good luck!
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So federal court does a good thing http://transgriot.blogspot.com/2012...-wisconsin.html In 2005 Wisconsin passed a law denying trans inmates hormone therapy among other treatments. Wisconsin supreme court ruled the law unconstitutional, federal three judge panel unanimously did the same, SCOTUS refused to take up the case. Excellent. To sum up the court's position “Refusing to provide effective treatment for a serious medical condition serves no valid penological purpose and amounts to torture."
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Amused to Death posted:So federal court does a good thing
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Amused to Death posted:So federal court does a good thing Only took 7 years, musta really sucked to be in jail for that period of time. More so than usual.
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I just got a text from a coworker saying they're installing cameras where I work, which is a food truck that's open late into the night. I'm the manager, so I almost always close the truck, and before I leave I change from my work uniform to my girl clothes. I'm not out to the company that I work for, and there might not be any place to get changed out of view of the cameras. So does anybody have any advice on how to proceed if the company raises an objection to me turning the cameras off at the end of the night? They (might) be running off the truck's generator, which I have to turn off before I leave anyway, so I could have some wiggle room. If I don't, though, is there anything I can do to keep them from peeping at me/finding out about my trans status before I'm ready to tell them?
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Black Lighter posted:I just got a text from a coworker saying they're installing cameras where I work, which is a food truck that's open late into the night. I'm the manager, so I almost always close the truck, and before I leave I change from my work uniform to my girl clothes. I'm not out to the company that I work for, and there might not be any place to get changed out of view of the cameras. Is there another option available to you? Can you go home and change, or does it need to be in the truck?
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