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Kajirastan posted:Out Okay. Sorry guys. I only had good intentions, I'm just awful at trying to put my thoughts into words. Also to that guy who said I don't know what it's like to be discriminated against, I've been beaten bloody for being gay multiple times. I know perfectly well what it's like, and I know that you need support when it happens, but killing yourself isn't going to help. I'm just glad Black Lighter has a therapist and people she (sorry, I honestly thought you were male)can go to for support. VVVV How am I supposed to know what sex any of you are? I've got a 50/50 chance and this forum is mostly male, sorry? Logtar fucked around with this message at Feb 29, 2012 around 23:10 |
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Logtar posted:Also to that guy Out
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Plom Bar posted:
To be fair, Caseus does have a rather masculine avatar and doesn't mention she's female on this page. Everything else Logtar is saying is pretty ignorant, though. Kajirastan posted:Out Now now, "guy" can be gender neutral. Logtar: Stop being an ignorant poo poo. Everyone else: Stop telling Logtar to  Correct Logtar when they(what pronouns do you prefer, Log?) make a mistake and move from there. Tweek fucked around with this message at Feb 29, 2012 around 23:11 |
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Thanks Logtar, I really needed a cisgender "person" to come in and tell me how I should feel about everything, as I am utterly incapable of synthesizing and comprehending my own experiences and need a cis white dude to tell me how to feel about everything or else... well I don't know what I would do!!!
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Logtar posted:Also I don't even know what "cis" means, you can stop using that word to discriminate against me now  Tell us more about how we're discriminating against you.
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Logtar posted:This man knows what I'm talking about. First, don't call me a man. I am pretty drat early in my transition, but it isn't nice to assume the pronoun is cis masculine in, you know, a transgender megathread. Second, I am not trying to poo poo up the thread. I really want to know how we can react that won't just make things worse. Edit: my profile lists my sex as "Porpoise" Aleph Null fucked around with this message at Feb 29, 2012 around 23:19 |
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Caseus Maximus posted:but it isn't nice to assume the pronoun is cis masculine in, you know, a transgender megathread. FtM? What the heck is that?
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Tweek posted:
While we're telling each other what to do, can you just please permanently stop posting?
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Kajirastan posted:FtM? What the heck is that? Topic more for the feminism/misogyny thread, I suppose.
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Plom Bar posted:It's more the prevailing assumption that the Internet is moreorless a boy's club and that most people on it are men. One sees that everywhere, not just in this thread, but it's particularly problematic in a thread like this where the subject of gender is so prevalent. Yes, I'm sorry. I was being rather careless with the words I used as I didn't know people would take their gender so seriously (In the trans thread, I must be even more of an idiot than I thought.) or really care if I got it wrong, as there is no real way for me to know someones sex on an internet forum. I honestly was just trying to help Black Lighter, but I hosed that up. Sorry. I'll leave for real this time.
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Logtar posted:Yes, I'm sorry. I was being rather careless with the words I used as I didn't know people would take their gender so seriously (In the trans thread, I must be even more of an idiot than I thought.) or really care if I got it wrong, as there is no real way for me to know someones sex on an internet forum. I honestly was just trying to help Black Lighter, but I hosed that up. Sorry. I'll leave for real this time. Oh behalf of the entire thread: Please don't come back
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Spiral Architect posted:While we're telling each other what to do, can you just please permanently stop posting? Better posters than you have tried. "Also I don't even know what "cis" means, you can stop using that word to discriminate against me now " was posted after I wrote that we should stop being unwelcoming to someone I was willing to assume was here to learn. It certainly makes me less willing to defend someone as simply ignorant when it's defined in The OP. It's clear now Log is a twit, but I was just saying we should give the benefit of the doubt and correct missteps (like saying 'man'), then only turn our backs if they prove themselves repeatedly unwilling to learn.
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Logtar:  Tweek: No idea who bought you that title, but I'm going to assume it was FYAD. They've got a mock thread going and attacked that post of yours a lot.
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The fyad thread is mostly posts about a fyad irc or something with interjections from weed death about how he really really wants to shoot us in the head.
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Kajirastan posted:Oh behalf of the entire thread: Please don't come back Nice reg date.
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P.B. and J. posted:Nice reg date. Thank. I missed posting itt and didn't feel like using my old account
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Teabiscuit posted:The fyad thread is mostly posts about a fyad irc or something with interjections from weed death about how he really really wants to shoot us in the head. It's too incoherent to really get offended by. It looks as if 4chan had the ability to search post histories. At least now people won't think I'm humorless about superheros.
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 ~ USEFUL INFORMATION DERAIL ~ Sorry to interrupt your neckbeard slapfight, but for anyone in the SF bay area that wants a hookup for  ~ CHEAP LASER ~ in Oakland, PM me or find me in the IRC (IRC details are in the OP). $40 for full face w/ numbing cream. Professional as any other clinic. Just had my first session and it sure as hell beats the $170 sessions I was doing before. They do one day a month so you have a long turnaround to your first appt but it's well worth it.
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Another downside of living in Florida. 
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UUriffic posted:Actually, just a C-cup bra with a sock in each side. It looks weird with anything super tight, but the dress it worked well with. This and your pic inspired me to actually try this, thanks. I'd been feeling really self-conscious about trying this, but I think you pulled it off well, so I gave it a try, it's nice to see curves under my shirt. 
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Logtar posted:Yes, I'm sorry. I was being rather careless with the words I used as I didn't know people would take their gender so seriously (In the trans thread, I must be even more of an idiot than I thought.) or really care if I got it wrong, as there is no real way for me to know someones sex on an internet forum. I honestly was just trying to help Black Lighter, but I hosed that up. Sorry. I'll leave for real this time. ok bye
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Kakumei posted:Another downside of living in Florida.
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Logtar, you should probably stay out of this thread forever.
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Serifina posted:You and me both. I hate this state. You should go to the beach more often. I prefer Venice but Big Pine Key is really boss too.
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Neo Helbeast posted:You should go to the beach more often. I prefer Venice but Big Pine Key is really boss too.
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Coffee Quack posted:A bunch of y'all really do need to go read that thread I posted and think for a bit. Misogynistic viewpoints are so transparent nobody thinks they even have them. This this this. Even if you can't fight back against bigotry at the moment it happens because it would be unsafe for you, you can do everything in your power not to continue the cycle. I fight the misogyny I was raised into every single day, even the days when I'm not sure if I'm a woman at all. Black Lighter, I'm so sorry you had to deal with that, and I can respect that it's hard to be introspective after a day like that. It's amazing that the people who are most harmed by negative societal attitudes often help perpetuate them. That woman who talked about you in the shop has undoubtedly been the victim of bigotry herself, and she probably doesn't even realize it. Or, if she does, she somehow thinks that whatever negative attitudes were directed at her (misogyny, racism, classism, or whatever) are somehow different than her attitude toward your transness. She'll probably never be able to gain enough clarity to realize that hate is cumulative in our society.
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Serifina posted:You and me both. I hate this state. Uh, I live in Florida and paid $150 total for 6 sessions of laser, with more sessions if needed at $50 each. I recently finished my 6th and have no visible facial hair anymore. Sign up for Groupon email subscriptions and you will get deals for cheap laser. You just have to check your email daily, but it seems about every month I get a Groupon deal for cheap laser in my email. This goes for people outside of Florida too.
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hxcorpse posted:It's realistic to acknowledge that bigotry exists, but it's not realistic to think that just brushing it off your shoulder will get rid of it. It's like how saving the planet involves keeping your own home and neighborhood free from garbage. I reuse and recycle my misanthropy, thank you very much. Tweek posted:Regarding calling somebody a body part, can I still call someone an rear end? Actually, early instances of calling somebody an rear end was in reference to the animal, not the body part. Then again, if you want to seriously derail with the ableist connotations of comparing one's social and/or intellectual capacity to that of a beast of burden...
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Teabiscuit posted:The fyad thread is mostly posts about a fyad irc or something with interjections from weed death about how he really really wants to shoot us in the head. not true
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Hey so the odds of finding anyone my size are slim but I have a bunch of men's clothing I don't need anymore after moving out. A ton of Aero/Abercrombie/Hollister/other douchebag name brand tees(small/medium) and jeans/shorts with 30-32 waist. I'm in desperate need of women's clothing and am pretty tight on the cash to buy brand new stuff so if anyone with comparable sizes with a similar need for men's clothing would like to trade apparel please PM me!
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I would probably let weed death shoot me in the head tbh
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Hey everybody's mad in here, it's been a little while. Speaking of getting mad at people, I had a question. Does anyone one know of anybody who would be considered "credible" (doctor, scientists, etc) that I could use for a semester long research paper as people with dissenting opinions or "opposition" to my argument that gender is a social construct. Or just anyone prominent who argues against transgender rights. I am having a hard time finding people on The Google. I mostly just find Bill 'o Reilly videos and yahoo answers. I really want to make a well researched and informed paper and I don't want to say anything stupid. In other news. I did something stupid that I feel bad about. I was kind doing a kind of internet sex thing with a guy I have a crush on and mid-way through he used the term "trap". At the time I let it slide because I was horny but in retrospect I feel like I should have said something. His argument was "It's like a compliment because it's like saying you look like a real woman" which pissed me off after the fact but now I feel like I can't bring it up because I acted like I was okay with it at the time. Also one more thing I am paranoid about. I am getting my initial physical and bloodwork done soon before starting HRT. I know someone (I forget who it was) said that the particular doctor I am using doesn't let much stop someone from starting HRT but I would really feel better knowing some specifics. What are the things that would actually keep a non-prejudiced doctor from wanting someone to start HRT. I would rather just know. I sometimes feel bad that I don't contribute to the thread in anyway and I only pop in when I have a question. What are some things I can do to be a better poster in the trans thread. I always feel like I have nothing I can speak knowledgeably about, or maybe I just don't place as much value in my life experiences as I should. I have been going through transition for about 2 years now I theoretically have something I could be helpful with right? I'm gonna just shut up now.
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Menadena posted:"he/she/it" I've heard this as "he or she or it" or alternatively, "h'or'sh'it"
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Serifina posted:Uh... I live in Orlando, and I am poor as hell, not to mention so pale I glow. The beach is not a thing for me. I'm visiting Orlando tomorrow!! Going on vacation is awesome, I can go girl-mode the whole time and not really give a poo poo about anything because I'll never see any of these people ever again.
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Behold! A Elk! posted:In other news. I did something stupid that I feel bad about. I was kind doing a kind of internet sex thing with a guy I have a crush on and mid-way through he used the term "trap". At the time I let it slide because I was horny but in retrospect I feel like I should have said something. His argument was "It's like a compliment because it's like saying you look like a real woman" which pissed me off after the fact but now I feel like I can't bring it up because I acted like I was okay with it at the time. Might be able to mention an experience off-hand as somebody else pissing you off? Sometimes they'll see what they're doing wrong when they think it's somebody else causing you grief. Behold! A Elk! posted:Also one more thing I am paranoid about. I am getting my initial physical and bloodwork done soon before starting HRT. I know someone (I forget who it was) said that the particular doctor I am using doesn't let much stop someone from starting HRT but I would really feel better knowing some specifics. What are the things that would actually keep a non-prejudiced doctor from wanting someone to start HRT. I would rather just know. Behold! A Elk! posted:I sometimes feel bad that I don't contribute to the thread in anyway and I only pop in when I have a question. What are some things I can do to be a better poster in the trans thread. I always feel like I have nothing I can speak knowledgeably about, or maybe I just don't place as much value in my life experiences as I should. I have been going through transition for about 2 years now I theoretically have something I could be helpful with right? When I don't have anything useful to say, I snark. Sometimes I snark because it beats getting pissed off at a situation. Sometimes I worry that when I snark, people think I'm being an rear end in a top hat.
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Kakumei posted:I'm visiting Orlando tomorrow!! Going on vacation is awesome, I can go girl-mode the whole time and not really give a poo poo about anything because I'll never see any of these people ever again. That's weird me and Bloody Crowbar are meeting up in Orlando on friday. teh winnar! posted:
You should change your name to Tony Snark.
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Neo Helbeast posted:That's weird me and Bloody Crowbar are meeting up in Orlando on friday. Coincidence! I'll be in Orlando until Monday. I'm pretty excited, I haven't been down there in years.
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Kakumei posted:Coincidence! I'll be in Orlando until Monday. I'm pretty excited, I haven't been down there in years. PM me or Skype if you'd be up for joining us for brunch. We could make it a :goonmeet:
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Neo Helbeast posted:You should change your name to Tony Snark. "That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far. To peace!"
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Sweet Baby Jeebus, so many goons in my town. It's weird! And freaky! And  Somehow, though, I suspect most of you are going to be on the attractions side of Orlando, aka diametrically opposed to where I live (right outside UCF, in fact.)
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