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Casull posted:The last helpdesk position I applied for showed how many people had applied for it; in two days, 28 people had applied, including me.
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Casull posted:* I don't have enough experience for a desktop support/jr. sysadmin position that doesn't involve being a helpdesk monkey. Since the bitchwork market is so flooded in your area, your best COA might be to bang out a CCNA and backdoor your way into it all together. Of course,  says that out of those 28 people, only about 4 were actually qualified and the majority were tossing in resumes to meet the unemployment quota.
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psydude posted:Since the bitchwork market is so flooded in your area, your best COA might be to bang out a CCNA and backdoor your way into it all together. Very true. We had one person applying to a Systems Engineer position with a realtor license and a 'strong background in Microsoft Office.'
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Casull posted:e. Unless that was a hint to take it to the SH/SC thread Not at all, my mod magic has no effect here. I was just reminding people that if they're having trouble getting a foot in the door, a friendly neighborhood goon may be able to help you out.
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skipdogg posted:I have an in law that works for Marathon Oil at a plant in Louisiana, I was looking at their corporate benefit package and it's insane. I've never seen anything like their relocation package for experienced folks. This time next year I'll be contemplating a move from San Antonio to Houston or Dallas... the tech market here just doesn't compare and both cities are closer to family than SA. It runs pretty much the whole gamut when I glanced at our internal job listings - from Operate, java developers, Business analysts, to DBAs. Hell, I even saw a request for an AIX Admin (old school!). I purposefully looked only in Texas, but there jobs all over. A lot in Columbus, OH, strangely. Now, I work in the financial sector, however I have some Cisco engineer friends that work at Chevron walking distance from me in downtown Houston and they are saying the same thing.
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Zomodok posted:I've been constantly hearing from older family members and now most of the media that I'm pretty much hosed when it comes to finding a job. Reading this thread has been sort of a moral boost but is there anything else that I can do to 'sell' myself to a job? I'm currently getting a degree in Computer Science after doing 4 years in the military. (Network Systems Admin with Net+/Sec+ certs). How's your security clearance situation look? In my experience the government trips all over itself hiring cleared people with the word "Computer" anywhere in their resume. Bonus: Your 4 years in uniform counts towards retirement.
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psydude posted:Of course, For a while we had a rash of people applying to jobs, setting up interviews and then just not showing up. Doing the bare minimum to remain on unemployment is definitely a thing.
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Docjowles posted:For a while we had a rash of people applying to jobs, setting up interviews and then just not showing up. Doing the bare minimum to remain on unemployment is definitely a thing. I'd chuck my resume at all the stuff I'm qualified as well as for the local bank manager if that's what it took to keep me in eating money.
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Rhymenoserous posted:I'd chuck my resume at all the stuff I'm qualified as well as for the local bank manager if that's what it took to keep me in eating money. No judgments here. I'm just saying that while 28 people applied to work helldesk, the reality is that only a handful were actually serious about it or qualified for it. In other words, he shouldn't let that discourage him.
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Rhymenoserous posted:I'd chuck my resume at all the stuff I'm qualified as well as for the local bank manager if that's what it took to keep me in eating money. The issue was that (unless the resume was faked) they were qualified and we wanted to interview/hire them, which surely pays better than unemployment. But they just ticked the box and ditched the interview, which got frustrating. If it was one guy I'd figure he got a better offer but it's kind of a niche field and happened multiple times.
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Interview for VM systems admin Hope it all goes well, I think I asked too low though oh well it is more than I make now, on the phone interview they asked my what my pay and when I could start was so I think I got it. Corvettefisher fucked around with this message at Apr 24, 2012 around 15:57 |
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Corvettefisher posted:Interview for VM systems admin Nice! I got an interview for a Senior Consultant position at another school within the University this morning that I am really excited about. YOTJ!
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skipdogg posted:The job market for highly skilled folks right now is insane, no matter what the news says. Corvettefisher posted:they asked my what my pay and when I could start was so I think I got it. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at Apr 24, 2012 around 18:16 |
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evil_bunnY posted:People just don't realize that the market for good IT is never actually bad. My previous employer (in Europe) had 400 consultants or so and we never fired anyone for economic reasons. We never stopped hiring either. Yeah, I got RIF'd in a government budget slash and if you count my vacation and my severance package on the way out the door, I actually got paid an extra work week. Basically I had 4 weeks of pay, and was hired by my new employer 3 weeks out from my layoff date. It was pretty nice. I bought a new laptop. EDIT: I was actually given "Sure we'll hire you" by two different places, it's nice to have options.
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Rhymenoserous posted:Basically I had 4 weeks of pay, and was hired by my new employer 3 weeks out from my layoff date. It was pretty nice. I bought a new laptop.
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Got a phone interview tomorrow for a sysadmin job that, on paper, I'm pretty excited about. It's got the "DevOps" buzzword which I actually did as my first job before DevOps was A Thing. I have a lot of coding in my background so I really enjoyed working closely with the dev team to ship a product, and I'd kind of like to get back to that instead of a pure operations role. I got the interview request within an hour of submitting my resume and cover letter, so either the hours I spent revising them paid off and I look good ( ) or they're desperate. Guess I'll start to get a sense for that tomorrow!BTW, I really appreciate the industry threads like this in SH/SC. They've motivated me to stop being so
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Looking for some input on breaking into IT when I get out of the military. I am a currently an active duty Navy officer. Im not in IT but obviously Ive been managing people for the entire time Ive been in (14 years). What sort of stuff can I do on my own that would be most beneficial to break into IT on the management side? Anything from certs to places to look where I can volunteer to help do IT help desk/janitor stuff would be helpful to me. I have 6 years before I get out so obviously I have some time but the next three years I'm on shore duty and will have significantly more free time to do stuff like that. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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vulturesrow posted:Looking for some input on breaking into IT when I get out of the military. I am a currently an active duty Navy officer. Im not in IT but obviously Ive been managing people for the entire time Ive been in (14 years). What sort of stuff can I do on my own that would be most beneficial to break into IT on the management side? Anything from certs to places to look where I can volunteer to help do IT help desk/janitor stuff would be helpful to me. I have 6 years before I get out so obviously I have some time but the next three years I'm on shore duty and will have significantly more free time to do stuff like that. Any input would be greatly appreciated. You might want to look into an AAS degree in general IT, you have enough experience where a bachelors of management would be a waste of time. And pick up an Security+ if you haven't done so already, not only is it required for DoD 8507 standard but will make you look better at your current and future jobs.
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I am looking for a career change and have two options as I see it. Which seems best? Background: Young adult, I have a 4-year bachelors degree in psychology, and I've been working the same mental health job for two years and moved into management. Option 1) Continue working and study for A+. After that, pursue CCNA (I like networking) and find a help desk/entry level job while studying for the CCNA, or after. This is the cheaper option. Option 2) Go to my local community college for a 2-year Network Engineering Technology diploma and quit my job. Hopefully I'd find an IT job during the program. However, it would add about $15k - $20k debt. I've already been accepted into the program, but conversely, my workplace has offered me a promotion if I stay. I'm worried that without a tech education I will not go as far as I would like. However, I'm also starting to think that since I already have a degree, I've largely fulfilled the educational requirements in HR's eyes so a tech diploma is less critical. Thoughts? Thanks.
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vulturesrow posted:Looking for some input on breaking into IT when I get out of the military. I am a currently an active duty Navy officer. Im not in IT but obviously Ive been managing people for the entire time Ive been in (14 years). What sort of stuff can I do on my own that would be most beneficial to break into IT on the management side? Anything from certs to places to look where I can volunteer to help do IT help desk/janitor stuff would be helpful to me. I have 6 years before I get out so obviously I have some time but the next three years I'm on shore duty and will have significantly more free time to do stuff like that. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I'm guessing you have a degree? What's it in? As weird as this sounds I've seen people look down on military leadership experience as not quite applicable to the "real world". No idea why, but it's something I've seen before. Generally speaking, most of the IT management I've seen have either just been people who rose up the ranks, or non technical business people who got IT slid under them. In my opinion, a technical manager needs to know enough to know when they're getting bullshitted, but in general you're not going to be expected to be an expert in anything, most of the managers that rise up from the technical ranks get a lot of skills atrophy.
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Tenacious J posted:I am looking for a career change and have two options as I see it. Which seems best? http://www.tcc.edu/academics/divisi...s/ist/index.htm http://www.tcc.edu/academics/programs/ot/bt/ist.htm They probably do and they are really cheap and usually offer a voucher or two for the test+ some Certificate of Completion from the School, and if you are into cisco use the lab time that you work on stuff on your resume, showing that you actually touched and configured a 2970/3650 will pay off
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vulturesrow posted:Looking for some input on breaking into IT when I get out of the military. I am a currently an active duty Navy officer. Im not in IT but obviously Ive been managing people for the entire time Ive been in (14 years). What sort of stuff can I do on my own that would be most beneficial to break into IT on the management side? Anything from certs to places to look where I can volunteer to help do IT help desk/janitor stuff would be helpful to me. I have 6 years before I get out so obviously I have some time but the next three years I'm on shore duty and will have significantly more free time to do stuff like that. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Easiest thing would probably be to work on certifications (Sec+, CCNA, MCSA, ect.) so that you have enough knowledge to understand the systems under your employ, but without having the direct experience to be a SME in any of those areas (much like the military). An MBA might be nice, as well, since many of the industry publications I've read have cited lack of business knowledge as one of the biggest problems other executives have with their IT departments and directors.
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psydude posted:
I second the MBA. If you have a degree already and looking for a career change, the MBA will open a poo poo load more doors for you across all business sectors and will continue helping you for your entire life. Much better than wasting your time with a majority of the certs out there that will be useless in 4-5 years. There are, of course, exceptions to this (CCIE), but those are like getting entire bachelors degrees, so you better be serious and go ALL IN. I believe nowadays you can even specialize your MBA towards tech if you wish. Lear fucked around with this message at Apr 25, 2012 around 16:45 |
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evil_bunnY posted:They just move to the countryside and soak in the sun. It's insane. Where is this magical land?
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Moey posted:Where is this magical land? Sounds like Spain to me. It's nice enough if you can roll with it, but hell if you're actually trying to make things happen.
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Crowley posted:Sounds like Spain to me. It's nice enough if you can roll with it, but hell if you're actually trying to make things happen. Especially between 2-5PM.
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psydude posted:Especially between 2-5PM. Tell me about it. I worked for a Spanish consulting company for a few weeks in 1997, and they were amazed that I had most of my daily code done by 3-4pm, and that I take my espresso without copious amounts of sugar. Still, I'd love to move there when I grow old. No one's in a hurry with anything
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Crowley posted:Tell me about it. I worked for a Spanish consulting company for a few weeks in 1997, and they were amazed that I had most of my daily code done by 3-4pm, and that I take my espresso without copious amounts of sugar. It's also difficult to describe how terrible the internet infrastructure there is. Good god.
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Interview tomorrow at 1, hope it goes well, a bit concerned about VDI as it isn't my strongest point but I know enough of it to get by, RDS/TSS is just a mess. My current place just does ESXi/Citrix box and installs windows 7 onto it with static IPs then saves the connection to the users p4 desktop, it works but I wish I had some Zero/thin client EXP Playing around with View 5 it is nice
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Didn't you just YOTJ? Also I've always wondered, is English your first language?
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Mierdaan posted:Didn't you just YOTJ? I am sure I have the job, especially after asking me when the soonest I could start is, what my salary requirements are, what my daily routine is, and so on and so forth. I get the feeling they want an in person interview anyways just to make sure I am not some creeper whom just crawled out of their parents basement and has never seen daylight before. Still a bit jittery. It is, I just suck at writing/typing anything outside scripts, code and command line. Corvettefisher fucked around with this message at Apr 25, 2012 around 23:54 |
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Corvettefisher posted:I am sure I have the job, especially after asking me when the soonest I could start is, what my salary requirements are, what my daily routine is, and so on and so forth. Still a bit jittery. In my experience these are more first and second interview questions than "You've got the job" formalities.
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spidoman posted:In my experience these are more first and second interview questions than "You've got the job" formalities. I have really never had a 2nd interview, all 3 places I have worked at I have managed to get the job by the pre-over the phone interview, and the in person one is a walk around dealio. E: and seeing how they the position was up for a few weeks before I applied, and then got a call <30 minutes asking me all kinds of technical stuff I would say they want me. Mierdaan posted:Right on. I wasn't trying to be a dick, I'd always just wondered if you were one of those guys whose fingers move faster than his grammar processor or if English was a second language for you. No, it is cool I know my grammar and typing is terrible, it really doesn't bother me except when someone uses it as a way to make my point/post moot Corvettefisher fucked around with this message at Apr 26, 2012 around 00:01 |
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Corvettefisher posted:It is, I just suck at writing/typing anything outside scripts, code and command line. Right on. I wasn't trying to be a dick, I'd always just wondered if you were one of those guys whose fingers move faster than his grammar processor or if English was a second language for you. You seem like a pretty young, passionate guy - hopefully this new job snaps you up and you can go nuts and blow the doors off it.
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Mierdaan posted:Didn't you just YOTJ?
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adorai posted:What the hell does this stand for? Google has failed me. Year of the Job. In the true spirit of linguistics, we've taken an acronym that is a noun and turned it into a verb, much like RSVP. Yes, you loving nerds, I know that Respondez is an imperative and not a noun.
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Moey posted:Where is this magical land? E: but we get Swedish girls so I'm not moving away EVER evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at Apr 26, 2012 around 00:37 |
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Corvettefisher posted:Interview tomorrow at 1, hope it goes well, a bit concerned about VDI as it isn't my strongest point but I know enough of it to get by, RDS/TSS is just a mess. My current place just does ESXi/Citrix box and installs windows 7 onto it with static IPs then saves the connection to the users p4 desktop, it works but I wish I had some Zero/thin client EXP Playing around with View 5 it is nice Good luck! My own phone interview today went better (and far longer) than I could have hoped, it seemed like everything I said was exactly what they wanted to hear. Not letting myself get too excited before I meet the team in person but this would be a huge YOTJ move if we come to the point of making and accepting an offer. MAJOR pay increase, interesting work, commute goes from 30 minute drive each way to 15 minute bike ride... really hoping this works out  It also seems like I'd be taking over for someone competent and respected, which I've never dealt with before for better or worse. That actually sounds kind of nice, instead of having to build the universe from square one.
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Docjowles posted:Good luck! My own phone interview today went better (and far longer) than I could have hoped, it seemed like everything I said was exactly what they wanted to hear. Not letting myself get too excited before I meet the team in person but this would be a huge YOTJ move if we come to the point of making and accepting an offer. MAJOR pay increase, interesting work, commute goes from 30 minute drive each way to 15 minute bike ride... really hoping this works out Thanks hope it goes well, judging from your posts in some of the other threads sounds like you need a refresh. Welp learnt and deployed VDI on View 5 and Hyper-V (with session broker, user to specific VM, and a bunch of other cool things)in one night so it wasn't as hard as I thought, even managed to do it without my Mastering Server 2008r2 book lab
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Thanks. It's more that I feel like I'm stagnating than anything. If I were 30 years older and cruising toward retirement this job would be great as it's quite stable. But there is zero chance of promotion (the one position I could have fit into was created and filled without even being advertised internally), little chance of a pay increase above maybe COLA bumps. And it can feel isolating to be the only "IT guy" in an organization, even my boss doesn't totally get what I do. It's time to shake things up.
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