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Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


Even if you drive a decent car that gets lovely mileage, let's say 20mpg, and gas is $4.00/gallon or whatever, for every gallon of gas you burn you get to keep 7 bucks. If you do a whole oil interval worth of driving on company time, they owe you $1775 above the cost of gas. Pretty sure that will cover wear and tear, unless you drive a Veyron, in which case you'll need another $18,000 just to buy another set of tyres (which you need to do after driving 5,000 miles)

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Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


Vargatron posted:

What's the general time between pay increases in IT? 6-12 months? Then again I guess it really depends on the company and overall performance.

I've been working for my current company for a year on Jan. 31st. I did an 8 month stint as a temp before going full time and I got $1 more an hour. I'm just wondering if 30k a year is decent starting pay for a Help Desk tech. I am getting a lot of good systems admin experience so I guess that's adding extra value to the money I'm making. I'd like to stay at the company for a few years, however the minimum increase is 3% a year and I'd like to be doing a little more than that while I'm in my 20s. Of course, if I do good on my reviews, then I could very well make more.

I have 0 first hand experience with this phenomenon(The getting a job that pays more part. I have experience with getting zero raises.), so YMMV, but I get the impression that pay raises in IT basically don't exist. Work somewhere a couple of years, learn a lot, keep your resume up to date, and then get a job somewhere else that has pay more commensurate to your abilities. If you're expecting them to voluntarily pay you more money than they have to, you're (likely) in for a rough time.

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


psydude posted:

I worked at a law school, but the personalities are the same. Lawyers don't know poo poo about computers, nor do they care to learn about them. This applies to both the law intern and the partner. Fortunately I had an IT department backing me up, but expect to be frustrated by a complete lack of knowledge from your user base.

Confirm.

I do occasional IT work for my father's small firm. He's 55, doesn't own a cell phone, can't touch type, writes his passwords down on sticky notes that he attaches to the actual display area, even after I explained that windows 7 has a sticky notes program built in, and he says point blank that he does not want to learn more about computers.

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


Anyone have experience working at Softlayer? I want to move back to Texas, and it seems like an okay place that I could potentially get hired with a CCNA and no on the job networking experience.

E: Specifically, working at a datacenter.

Comradephate fucked around with this message at Jan 19, 2012 around 16:53

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


Misogynist posted:

Rackspace is also headquartered in Texas and I know they have a big need for junior people. I know a sysadmin in their corporate HQ who was hired with no prior sysadmin experience.

I applied for an entry level Linux admin position there, didn't hear back. I'm smarter now, but no better qualified on paper. Their most "junior" networking position requires ~18 months experience, too. I've heard very good things about working at Rackspace though, maybe I should reconsider my approach and finish studying for the RHCSA before working on networking stuff.

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


psydude posted:

e^^^: "18 months of experience" is HR speak for "This is an entry level position provided your bullshitting skills are good enough"

That's what I thought, too. But I talked to a "technical lead" who was posting for an unrelated job on Reddit, and he said they're pretty serious about that requirement.

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


Misogynist posted:

In some cases, work at a campus NOC would be plenty. The admin I know there used to run two servers here. There's plenty of ways to get that experience on paper.

Holy poo poo, I just realized/remembered that I know somebody who works at the datacenter at UH. Did not even cross my mind. I'm gonna see if they are looking for anybody.

Thanks for accidentally reminding me. :P

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


Misogynist posted:

I and our internal recruiter and six different recruiting firms can't seem to find them. It depends a lot on your industry. People from finance tend to only look for other jobs in finance. Plus, we're about an hour drive out of NYC.

Doesn't bother me; I like mentoring people who are smart and eager to learn. Plus, you get them for a lot cheaper.

WTB a hiring manager like you where I apply. I'll bust my rear end to learn anything that is needed, especially linux/networking/storage related things, because those interest me the most, but I just want a new job.

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


That's good to hear. Thanks for the encouragement.

Rackspace's website has a place to add a cover letter to your profile, but as far as I can tell there's no way to actually add it to an application submission.

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


the spyder posted:

You glorious bastards. Between this thread/subforum and the Resume/Interview thread, I think I might have just accidentally YOTJ'd. I have never, every had such a positive feedback from a company. I got an email before I even got home telling me how much everyone loved me. They are asking for salary requirements/ background check ok/professional references and want it ASAP. The company is insanely awesome, the staff is awesome, and I just can not wait to hear back from them next week. Thanks everyone!

Congratulations!

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


the spyder posted:

I would be very happy with $60k and a yearly review.

There's your answer. Why fight for more or less than what would make you happy?

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


Was trying to change jobs to server monitoring/management, somehow ended up in QA.

Pay is the same, and I get to keep my underlings. Not really sure what happened, but I'm for it!

My job keeps getting better, I may not die of cirrhosis after all.

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009


E: this post was dumb and bad

Comradephate fucked around with this message at Apr 21, 2012 around 23:30

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Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009



How does that apply?

When grouping like that the "Bachelor's Degree" group contains Electrical Engineers, Aero Engineers, Petro Engineers, Software developers, and such, while the "High School" group contains both IT professionals with 20 years of experience and the pothead who works graveyard 2 nights a week at the Stop 'n Go. It's an infinitely broader group, which means that some people can be extremely successful and still have the average be quite low. Granted, the "Bachelor's Degree" group also contains people who majored in Social Work and make 25k, but that's still a much higher floor than the "High School" group.

If the question is "On average, is a randomly selected U.S. Citizen better off with a Bachelor's Degree?" the answer is unequivocally "yes", but his statement related only to people within the field of IT - not the population as a whole.

E: VVV a lot pithier than mine.

Comradephate fucked around with this message at Jun 11, 2012 around 02:50

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