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Senator Woofington
Jul 31, 2009

by Ozmaugh


Firstly I apologize if this is inappropriate to the forum. I have tried getting help in the thread but everyone wants to talk about how awesome the game is because these technical issues do not seem to be affecting everyone. Also it is just hard to keep up with that thread!

Anyhow, I know there are a few of us out there with some serious stuttering or low fps issues trying to play the saints. Personally I have a 6970, an i7 @ 3.5, and 8 gigs of ram yet on the lowest settings I only sit around 30 fps. If I drop down to directx 9 I get bumped up to about 40 fps. Regardless this is incredibly unacceptable.

So has there been any word of a patch to fix performance? Has ati/amd released any new drivers yet? I have looked into both of these solutions and as of right now there appears to be nothing to help those of us who performance is in the toilet.

So if you have bad performance, post your specs here. If you have fixes for performance, post your fixes here.

Potential fixes (YMMV)

General Tweaks to improve performance

http://segmentnext.com/2011/11/15/s...formance-fixes/


-Run it in directX 9.

AMD/ATI/RADEON fixes

-Update from to current driver (11.11), it was released today (11/15/11). (NOTE: this did absolutely NOTHING for me but some users see a performance increase)

Senator Woofington fucked around with this message at Nov 17, 2011 around 08:56

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Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

I've got a HD 5850 on Windows 7 and the latest drivers downloaded today. Dropping down to DX9 just about doubles my frame rate in most places on the exact same setting.

Low settings on DX11, I get 15-17 fps. Same settings on DX9 gives me 30-35 and going higher in places. So it's quite playable as long as I stick to DX9.

LumberingTroll
Sep 9, 2007

Really it's not because
I don't like you...


The problem I am having as mentioned before is that ever minute or so, I get a screen freeze that last 2 - 3 seconds then the game continues, the sound doesn't freeze during this, just the display.

I've tried just about everything I can think of.

Drivers
minimum settings
multiple different combinations of settings
lower resolution
verify integrity

Nothing seems to effect it.
When its not freezing, it runs on absolute maximum settings flawlessly.

specs:
i7 975 quad 3.33
GTX 480
12GB DDR3
6TB HDD space

Methodis
Mar 22, 2010

by Ozmaugh


For me I get amazing performance in a building but as soon as I go outside it tanks, no matter if I change the resolution or graphical settings.

PC:
Windows 7 64 Bit
i5 760 @ 3.1ghz
6850 HD
4 gigs of ram

Something is very wrong with the port. A lot of fellow Radeon HD 6xxx owners are also reporting similiar problems. Here's to hoping it'll get fixed.

Methodis fucked around with this message at Nov 15, 2011 around 22:10

Senator Woofington
Jul 31, 2009

by Ozmaugh


Methodis posted:

For me I get amazing performance in a building but as soon as I go outside it tanks, no matter if I change the resolution or graphical settings.

PC:
Windows 7 64 Bit
i5 760 @ 3.1ghz
4 gigs of ram

Something is very wrong with the port. A lot of fellow Radeon HD 6xxx owners are also reporting similiar problems. Here's to hoping it'll get fixed.

What is you gfx card?

HellFox
Jun 2, 2004



Methodis posted:

For me I get amazing performance in a building but as soon as I go outside it tanks, no matter if I change the resolution or graphical settings.

PC:
Windows 7 64 Bit
i5 760 @ 3.1ghz
4 gigs of ram

Something is very wrong with the port. A lot of fellow Radeon HD 6xxx owners are also reporting similiar problems. Here's to hoping it'll get fixed.

This exactly describes my situation except that it's outside while driving.

E7200
GTX550TI
4GB RAM

Old drivers, new drivers, beta drivers, all the same. DX9 or 10/11 even makes zero performance difference.

Methodis
Mar 22, 2010

by Ozmaugh


Senator Woofington posted:

What is you gfx card?

Woops forgot. Radeon HD 6850

Senator Woofington
Jul 31, 2009

by Ozmaugh


^^^ That is also a really great card. Unacceptable THQ

HellFox posted:

This exactly describes my situation except that it's outside while driving.

E7200
GTX550TI
4GB RAM

Old drivers, new drivers, beta drivers, all the same. DX9 or 10/11 even makes zero performance difference.

So far I have only heard of ati/amd fixes but I will keep my ear to the ground for nvidia fixes too

HellFox
Jun 2, 2004



Senator Woofington posted:

^^^ That is also a really great card. Unacceptable THQ


So far I have only heard of ati/amd fixes but I will keep my ear to the ground for nvidia fixes too

Thanks. It's really frustrating that everyone on the official forums thinks it's specifically related to ATI when I have the exact same issues. For me the game also hitches when turning outside, which even causes the audio to stutter. It does make for some pretty funny remixes of the songs though!

I know my CPU is a bit underwhelming but every other game I play works great at the highest setting so I haven't found a need to replace it. Even this game works awesome until I get into a car.

Methodis
Mar 22, 2010

by Ozmaugh


Are you guys who are also having performance issues overclocking / modified any settings in Catalyst or ATT?

HellFox
Jun 2, 2004



Methodis posted:

Are you guys who are also having performance issues overclocking / modified any settings in Catalyst or ATT?

I know you specifically mentioned ATI but I thought I'd volunteer that I'm not overclocking anything. My system is incredibly uninteresting and until today I never ran beta drivers, either.

Chief Savage Man
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice


I'm having a problem where my screen goes black, the sound continues as normal, then it may or may not just start looping after that and require a restart. Something similar happened twice in BF3 over like 20 hours of play then never happened again, it didn't happen at all over almost 50 hours in Skyrim or in any other game at all, but its happened twice in my 2 hours of Saints Row: The Third. Is this a software issue or do I need to do something with my hardware configuration?

e: GPU drivers are up to date, I have a 560 Ti and I installed the drivers that came out with BF3 and that's the last one I saw available when I checked
last night.

e2: Got a Phenom II X4 940, 8 GB of RAM, and a regular old 750GB 6gb/s SATA drive if any of that matters.

Chief Savage Man fucked around with this message at Nov 15, 2011 around 22:38

ZenMaster
Jan 23, 2006

You died hideously! Press fire.

My character dies sometimes when I jack a car, have PC copy... anyone getting this bug? Generally fast jacks kill me (it's like 50/50)

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002

Inside this piss jug you might just see cold piss. But if you look closer you just might see a piss miracle.


ZenMaster posted:

My character dies sometimes when I jack a car, have PC copy... anyone getting this bug? Generally fast jacks kill me (it's like 50/50)

It's happened to me once. I think it's a glitch where the driver's ragdoll gets stuck in the car and acts as a physics object bludgeoning you to death instantly.

Cowcaster fucked around with this message at Nov 16, 2011 around 00:57

Senator Woofington
Jul 31, 2009

by Ozmaugh


Cowcaster posted:

It's happened to me once. I think it's a glitch where the driver's ragdoll gets stuck in the car and acts as a physic object bludgeoning you to death instantly.

This. Also once I did my sprinting hijack but instead of jumping through the windshield and into the drivers seat I jumped through the windshield and through the car and through the ground and died.

golden oldies pete
Apr 22, 2010

oooo yeeaaa

My GTX 560 hits up to 70°Cish on ultra settings which it selected by default.

I think my GPU overheated playing on DX11 just now but I played for about 7 hours earlier on DX9 just fine.

Little Abigail
Jul 21, 2011



Chief Savage Man posted:

I'm having a problem where my screen goes black, the sound continues as normal, then it may or may not just start looping after that and require a restart. Something similar happened twice in BF3 over like 20 hours of play then never happened again, it didn't happen at all over almost 50 hours in Skyrim or in any other game at all, but its happened twice in my 2 hours of Saints Row: The Third. Is this a software issue or do I need to do something with my hardware configuration?

e: GPU drivers are up to date, I have a 560 Ti and I installed the drivers that came out with BF3 and that's the last one I saw available when I checked
last night.

e2: Got a Phenom II X4 940, 8 GB of RAM, and a regular old 750GB 6gb/s SATA drive if any of that matters.

That's really odd.

I'm running the exact same setup, only with a 460 and I've had no problems.

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

Do I have everybody's attention now?


Just noticed this thread, better to ask here than the general discussion:

I'm still having this weird issue where I am unable to log in to the community site. The game says that my Steam account is linked to a THQ account, however the THQ account was deleted a while ago. It gets even stranger when I found out I can log in on the THQ main site, but not the SR 3 site. Is there a way to de-link accounts, or is that being worked on? I would ask in the troubleshooting forums, but I obviously can't log in there.

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Methodis posted:

Are you guys who are also having performance issues overclocking / modified any settings in Catalyst or ATT?

Nope, untouched.

Chief Savage Man
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice


Little Abigail posted:

That's really odd.

I'm running the exact same setup, only with a 460 and I've had no problems.

I guess I'll just set it down to DX9 like my 560 brother with the overheating problem for now until some new drivers or a fix comes out. Too bad because the game really is very pretty on DX11.

madpanda
May 23, 2008



Chief Savage Man posted:

I guess I'll just set it down to DX9 like my 560 brother with the overheating problem for now until some new drivers or a fix comes out. Too bad because the game really is very pretty on DX11.

I have the exact same issue as you using the bf3 drivers on a gtx 280. Going to slum it with dx9.

Aleksei Vasiliev
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

I don't mind getting 45FPS, but I do mind that the game crashes half the time I change my settings. Making it hard to try and improve my FPS. Anybody else getting crashes when hitting Apply or is it just me?

i7-2600k
AMD HD 6850
8GB RAM
(for performance comp, not crashing)

Chief Savage Man
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice


madpanda posted:

I have the exact same issue as you using the bf3 drivers on a gtx 280. Going to slum it with dx9.

I'm gonna try one more time with the beta drivers from 11/10 and if it doesn't work I'll just use the DX9 until the issue gets fixed.

Methodis
Mar 22, 2010

by Ozmaugh


I tried the new drivers and got about 10 FPS change positive, but it still runs pretty abysmally and changing settings don't seem to effect it much.

The Miracle
Aug 26, 2004

Who doesn't wanna be Johnny Gat?


Anyone having issues with the 360 version? My box freezes right the gently caress up after I select "New Game"

Would anyone with a 360 even check this thread?

Senator Woofington
Jul 31, 2009

by Ozmaugh


The Miracle posted:

Anyone having issues with the 360 version? My box freezes right the gently caress up after I select "New Game"

Would anyone with a 360 even check this thread?

doubtful but I'll keep an eye out for anything 360 related though admittedly I, and as I suspect most people in this thread, am just looking for pc fixes.

11.11 drivers have hosed my game and cause it to crash frequently, so I would suggest using 11.11 as a last resort only AMD folks!

edit: FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK now my game crashes every few minutes or so.

Senator Woofington fucked around with this message at Nov 15, 2011 around 23:53

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009



e: Ignore me. I did the integrity check and it mentioned a file missing. Still said it was missing after a 2nd check but the game works now.

I think i entered the Genki and Season pass codes during the download and that might've hosed with it.

Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at Nov 16, 2011 around 00:32

Senator Woofington
Jul 31, 2009

by Ozmaugh


I feel like games are being more and more broken on release as time goes on

I just wanna help out the saints

To clarify, I can't really even play anymore, last night it ran at 30 fps but it didn't crash. Now after reverting back to my old drivers cause the new one caused crashes, it still crashes

Senator Woofington fucked around with this message at Nov 16, 2011 around 02:32

ZenMaster
Jan 23, 2006

You died hideously! Press fire.

Ok, cool at least the car jack dying thing is a known bug, hope to get that patch soon, this game is amazing so far!!

rizuhbull
Mar 30, 2011



Not quite sure where to ask this, but this seems like the most appropriate place.

Is SR3 worth picking up via Steam? Is like SR2 for PC (aka lovely)? I have a full steam wallet and this game looks interesting.

I have a 360 controller as well, if that's better to use than M+K.

Also, anyone running the game with a similar build? If so, how does it run?
PC Specs...
5770
AMD Phenom X4 3.20GHz
W7 64bit
4GB RAM

deliciousgrapesoda
Nov 5, 2009


rizuhbull posted:

Not quite sure where to ask this, but this seems like the most appropriate place.

Is SR3 worth picking up via Steam? Is like SR2 for PC (aka lovely)? I have a full steam wallet and this game looks interesting.

I have a 360 controller as well, if that's better to use than M+K.

Also, anyone running the game with a similar build? If so, how does it run?
PC Specs...
5770
AMD Phenom X4 3.20GHz
W7 64bit
4GB RAM

My rig is a little slower than yours but it runs the game decently. The only time I get major slowdown is when there is a lot of action on screen or when I'm driving really fast.

Edit to include my pc specs:
3.0ghz core 2 duo
4850 HD
4GB ddr2 ram
w7 64bit

-Dethstryk-
Oct 20, 2000


I wasn't having terrible performance, but I did have some noticeable hitches in framerate. The 11.11 AMD drivers have bumped me up to a constant smooth game.

Posting just in case people aren't installing them for whatever reason.

rizuhbull
Mar 30, 2011



Ok, thanks for the insight. I'm still skeptical if it's worth picking up :/ After Rage being unplayable, and Dead Island having a poo poo launch, I'm skiddish to trust new PC releases.

Senator Woofington
Jul 31, 2009

by Ozmaugh


rizuhbull posted:

Ok, thanks for the insight. I'm still skeptical if it's worth picking up :/ After Rage being unplayable, and Dead Island having a poo poo launch, I'm skiddish to trust new PC releases.

Obviously you will be getting a very polarizing response from me but wait. I get about 30 fps and it crashes about every 20 minutes to desktop. People with the exact same hardware are saying that their game both runs and doesn't, so nothing really points to an exact cause yet.

Just wait.

edit: Mind you i have dumped so much cash into this computer, I'm not playing on some POS rig but in fact almost as high end as you can get.

Syves
Dec 10, 2007
50% Entertainment By Volume. Guaranteed!

At first, I couldn't change any options without the game crashing. So I made some changes.

Game_launcher.exe, and the 2 game executables, I made them disable desktop composition, and what the gently caress, set them run as admin.

Also, in the display.ini file, I changed the default -1 to 5. Now I can gently caress with the changes all I want.

No clue what change was the one that did the trick. Don't right care either. I got to get to some good deeds.

Orgophlax
Aug 26, 2002




So the game runs smooth as silk for me, but if I have any amount of post processing on in DX10/11 mode I get this:



Works fine in DX9, but then I can't turn everything high. Running a 4850 with the 11.03 drivers. I guess I'll try updating to see if it fixes it but I'm really weary of that since Skyrim is nice and I hope to god it doesn't break it.

Methodis
Mar 22, 2010

by Ozmaugh


The game is finally "playable" on Direct X 9 mode with the latest drivers. In doors sections get about 49 FPS outdoors get about 30 and car goes anywheres from 25-30. Still loving rough and seems like a shoddy job. Still fun as balls though.

Syves
Dec 10, 2007
50% Entertainment By Volume. Guaranteed!

anyone having issues getting their 360 controller to work? PC version, but using a wired 360 controller. Drivers are all up to date, etc. I can use the start button to skip the intro movies, but thats all it seems to do.

~e: Got it working. there was a virtual HID device in my list for a joystick I haven't used in a while. Disabled it in Device Manager, and now the 360 is working fine.

Syves fucked around with this message at Nov 16, 2011 around 03:03

Orgophlax
Aug 26, 2002




Orgophlax posted:

So the game runs smooth as silk for me, but if I have any amount of post processing on in DX10/11 mode I get this:



Works fine in DX9, but then I can't turn everything high. Running a 4850 with the 11.03 drivers. I guess I'll try updating to see if it fixes it but I'm really weary of that since Skyrim is nice and I hope to god it doesn't break it.
Crisis averted. Updating to 11.11 fixed this. Now to go test Skyrim...

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Tempus Rimeblood
Sep 23, 2007



I know this is primarily for the PC stuff, but on the PS3 version, my audio is stuttering and skipping. Any reason for this/possible fix?

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