Why I'm saving 'Manos: The Hands of Fate'

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pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

I was just going to post about this. :O

I would def. take some luscious prints of those 2k scans, and/or an art book. Lobby cards?? The pin looks great.

I discovered this thread/project last week and it blew my mind. Very glad you've opened this up to a new audience.

# ¿ Sep 3, 2012 07:20

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 02:42

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

Speleothing posted:

Honestly, I'd be more interested in The Master as a poster than a T shirt.

Seconded, adding "prints, prints, prints" to the proceedings.

# ¿ Sep 15, 2012 06:09

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

Joe Neal Warren posted:

I don't want to be the bad guru

Really? Because it sounds like you do.

Joe Neal Warren posted:

By using these characters without permission will cause irreparable harm to my dad's copyright.

Also causing irreparable harm to his dad's copyright: Failing to copyright.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2012 00:37

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

I thought the issue with Manos was failing to include a copyright notice in the film, thus it entered public domain the moment it was first screened in public.

pwn fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Sep 18, 2012

# ¿ Sep 18, 2012 07:04

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

How about Eau Claire? This place is packed with hipsters and others who'd fill Micon Cinemas for a night of Manos. The guy who owns those theatres does special shows all the time.

# ¿ Oct 4, 2013 16:45

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

I put in $150 for the God Help The Girl Kickstarter in January 2012, and just got told that the DVD is coming Summer/Fall 2014, from the initial window of early 2013. A quality product takes time, sorry you're not instantly gratified.

pwn fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Nov 2, 2013

# ¿ Nov 2, 2013 04:34

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

Came across this on an old HDD today. Pretty sure it's from an old GBS thread from 2009 or '10. It'd be awesome if Criterion wanted to do it for real.

edit: Yep, 2010. Never imagined there could be a Criterion-worthy transfer, ha.

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pwn fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Jul 12, 2014

# ¿ Jul 12, 2014 05:32

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

Can't you just put it on there in SD since it's not archival quality?

# ¿ Oct 30, 2014 02:09

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

Ballz posted:

The guys behind the Kickstarter for the Mother 1 OST on vinyl

NERD

_{where can I find that please}

# ¿ May 29, 2015 20:02

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

So which did you end up going with? Rounded corners, right. Please say rounded corners

# ¿ Jul 16, 2015 19:51

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

pwn posted:

So which did you end up going with? Rounded corners, right. Please say rounded corners

# ¿ Jul 24, 2015 18:38

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

Nintendo Kid posted:

Also they usually weren't "destroyed"

http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/rah.htm

quote:

Further, it gives the impression that all of these nitrate films simply decomposed while attempts were being made to preserve them. This is untrue. Most of the early films did not survive because of wholesale junking by the studios. There was no thought of ever saving these films. They simply needed vault space and the materials were expensive to house.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2015 01:02

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

MisterBibs posted:

the future can get what it gets.

*dumps two decades' worth of Tonight Show kinescopes in the East River*

That actually happened, you know. Want to go back and see the time Bill Cosby came out after literally having just sexually assaulted one of the night's guests and pretended he was her? Get your SCUBA gear.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2015 22:47

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

EasyEW posted:

We also need to be clear that "saving" in the sense of keeping material and "saving" in the sense of active acts of preservation are two different things.

I've been following a guy that's been running a Gofundme campaign to get decent digital transfers of a famous kid's show from the 1950s while it's still feasible. Two problems with getting all the way to the end (besides the obvious funding hurdle): the archive is nearly 700 episodes deep, and many of the films have gone all brittle and warped. Obviously it costs much more to correct for that even just doing an unrestored transfer.

These films fall firmly in the "not lost, just unavailable" category and have been in the same institutional hands for decades, so this case it's a different situation than what Dr. Who fans dealt with, where just finding the sources has been the biggest hurdle. But it's obvious this collection needed a little more hands-on care over the years to not be a nailbiter now that somebody's been moved to action.

Which show?

# ¿ Aug 1, 2015 01:15

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

Big Bidness posted:

Seriously, you clearly have some real issues. I hope your dog didn't get crushed by a collapsed tower of VHS copies of Frankenhooker at your crazy uncles. Those clamshell cases were heavy.

Frankenhooker had a cardboard box, not a clamshell (Source: My copy of Frankenhooker)

WANNA DATE?!

# ¿ Sep 1, 2015 08:36

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

You can answer that which Ben will not:

pwn posted:

So which did you end up going with? Rounded corners, right. Please say rounded corners

# ¿ Sep 18, 2015 23:59

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

Surfingelectrode posted:

They're squared.

Thank you! (And boooooooooo, Ben.)

# ¿ Sep 19, 2015 01:42

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

My desire to see the corners was simply my desire to see them, since this isn't a pro shot film and all. I think the comparison to colour correcting etc is overblown, but not worth arguing about. I'm still gonna get this release. Someday. I haven't had money for a new DVD/blu ray in months and that probably won't change for a while.

# ¿ Sep 19, 2015 07:40

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

Truly we have arrived. :q:

# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 23:16

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

Steve Yun posted:

I would like to know more about the Tonight Show tapes being dumped

Scudworth posted:

They weren't dumped, they were wiped and recorded over.

It was the DuMont Television Network archive owned by ABC that was dumped into the river, and the Tonight Show on NBC wasn't part of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_surviving_DuMont_Television_Network_broadcasts

I don't know how or when I transposed that onto the NBC lore, but most kinescopes of NYC-era Tonight (1954-1972) are missing, whether dumped into the river or set on fire or whatever.

But check this out: The American Armed Forces network, which received colour film prints of many of those Carson-era broadcasts, had better archiving ethos than NBC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFOOHiww6q4

I couldn't be happier to be proven wrong. Now it's just up to Carson's estate to not be total fuckups in getting this material released in some format (spoiler alert: they will be total fuckups.)

# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 02:42

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

It comes with a DVD copy, you're good.

# ¿ Oct 14, 2015 16:56

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 02:42

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

The DVD Beaver review said it came with a DVD. Funky.

Island Nation posted:

DVD Beaver has reviewed the disc if anyone is on the fence

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film5/blu-ray_reviews_69/manos_hand_of_fate_blu-ray.htm

# ¿ Oct 14, 2015 17:11

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